Kelegyrl Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Completely agreed. Will is the master and Boogie isn't doing too bad of a job himself. For those complaining that he is manipulating poor Janelle, i say she's the fool. Why would she believe they will vote out Erika over Marcellas if they are going through so much trouble to get Marcellas on the block. She should've stayed with her nomination of George if she reallly wants Erika gone. She just isn't thinking. Will's doing all the thinking for her and that will be her downfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmen Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Sorry, I totally disagree. I'm not nearly as impressed with Will's "skills" this time around as I was Season 2. And sorry again, Mike Boogie is simply no all-star. He should never have been put in. All this aside, though, the reason I'm not impressed with chilltown is that they're not really doing anything than telling people what they want to hear and playing people off each other. It doesn't really take a "master manipulator" to do that. What it does take is a group of very stupid people. Here's what I can't figure out. Why would Danielle want to agree to be in an alliance with chilltown when she knows their loyalty to one another far exceeds any loyalty to her? She wouldn't agree to any deal with Season 6 because she knew she would be the low person on the totem pole. Well, she's the low person on the chilltown pole as well -- and yet she thinks this is her best alliance?? Even with James in that alliance, it's still not good odds for her and James. Chilltown fully intends to remain loyal to one another and go all the way. I think it's pure stupidity. I'm more impressed with just how incredibly stupid the other houseguests are than I am with any so-called skill displayed by chilltown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCRebel Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Because 2 vs. 2 is a good situation for her. If Chilltown makes the best players in Big Brother history look stupid then wouldn't they have to be doing a good job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragozy Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Interesting comment, Carmen.... I wouldn't say that the other HG were stupid... too harsh for me. But I might say some of them have less experience dealing with other types of peoples. I also wouldn't go so far as to say they were sheltered, because when there is adult conversation - there are valid points made and good discussion. Now, again, don't get me wrong....it is infrequently that serious talk goes on, but....sometimes. For the most part, I see the group as a bunch of college kids caught up in a "you can do whatever you want" situation to win and they are running with it. No offense to college kids out there! With that in mind, my comment was about Will's youth and ability. It's not great, but just imagine what a few more years of "life experiences" will make him into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfRealityTV Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Great point, Ragozy... I agree... Exept for the harshness.... That's my m.o. But ur cool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wash ur face Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 I was going to say the same thing that someone's already posted. Will's not some master manipulator. He's just surrounded by a bunch of idiots and giddy little girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Sunshine* Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Carmen, you are right about Boogie not being an All-Star but I think Will had an agreement with CBS that he wouldn't go into the house without him. I think you may missed the point of why Danielle has partnered up with Chilltown. Her allegiance is to James first and she has commented several times that he is the "Veto King" so she clearly thinks that his competition skills in conjunction with his lies and manipulation will take them far. I don't think she entirely trusts Will and Boogie but she thinks they will get her further in the game but I do think she underestimates Chilltown's ability to compete in comps. And I don't think the other houseguests are "stupid" - I just don't think (with the exception of James and Danielle who are using Chilltown as much as they are being used) that the rest of the HGs have either the ability to be as devious, cunning and manipulative (as Chilltown or LOD) nor the capacity to recognize those abilities in others. I do think it is interesting that everyone, including Boogie, James and Danielle are willing to "work on Will's behalf" by running to other HGs and saying what he instructs them to say. Gullible is definitely the word that comes to mind - no one seems to understand the ulterior motives in what Will is getting them to do - I guess that's his charm. I think it is easy to judge the other HGs harshly but remember they don't get to see the entire picture as we do and their views are skewed by all they hear but are not balanced by the things that they don't hear but that we do. JMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragozy Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Without really going out on a limb, I have to say again - CT is doing the job. The point of the exercise is to win the money - by any means. A diverse group meets to take the challenge - from different parts of the economic, social, political and religious factions. Different levels of education and Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big-Brother-7- All--Stars Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 CT, they arnt my fav but there fine. My fav is Janelle, but I like Will from chill town (well he is second on my list)... Booger is very pathetic and I hate him and Will is just a backstabber (but isnt that how you play the game?). Well I luv Janelle no question bout it! Here is a picture of CT. Hope you enjoy it, My daughter did lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamTheCat Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Sorry, I totally disagree. I'm not nearly as impressed with Will's "skills" this time around as I was Season 2. And sorry again, Mike Boogie is simply no all-star. He should never have been put in. All this aside, though, the reason I'm not impressed with chilltown is that they're not really doing anything than telling people what they want to hear and playing people off each other. It doesn't really take a "master manipulator" to do that. What it does take is a group of very stupid people. Here's what I can't figure out. Why would Danielle want to agree to be in an alliance with chilltown when she knows their loyalty to one another far exceeds any loyalty to her? She wouldn't agree to any deal with Season 6 because she knew she would be the low person on the totem pole. Well, she's the low person on the chilltown pole as well -- and yet she thinks this is her best alliance?? Even with James in that alliance, it's still not good odds for her and James. Chilltown fully intends to remain loyal to one another and go all the way. I think it's pure stupidity. I'm more impressed with just how incredibly stupid the other houseguests are than I am with any so-called skill displayed by chilltown. Well, Janelle's IQ is supposed to be around 140 and I would guess Will, James, Erika, Kaysar and Danielle's are all around that range as well (+/-10) so to me it doesn't seem to be a question of intelligence/stupidity - I mean are we talking about EQ (ie street smarts?)? Just guessing about Danielle, but I think the glue that is binding Danielle, James, and Chilltown is that due to the way they play the game they can't get rid of people without pissing them off, so that each of them needs the other to be with them in the final 4 to avoid losing to a 'Lisa'/'Amber' type player. I think Danielle is using them as much as they are using her and when it comes time to get rid of them she will expose their game play to the rest of the house and turn the house against them to get them out. She can pretty much do this at any time . . . guess what I'm saying is that in terms of street smarts Danielle seems to be just as savvy as Chilltown (maybe not as charismatic, but aware enough to not be duped by them (? I think ?)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragozy Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Oh, geez.... let's not even try to guess at IQ!!!! I'm cringing at the thought that one of them... anyone of them might at some time respresent me in government or business!!! God! The nightmares!!! Busto!!! Oh, no! I can't stand it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uvp Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 tough decision for ct this week keep a vote in ericka or get exposed if she stays keep marcellas who really doesnt like them but hates janelle i am lost who do you guys think help better ct position in the game ericka or marcellas by keeping in the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCRebel Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Marcellas has been trying to tell Janelle to put up Chilltown every time she wins HOH. Erika is in love with Mike Boogie. Choice seems easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uvp Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 yep but keeping ericka lessen janelle trust in ct if she stop being naive and wise up. i think she might wise up due to the fact she is paranoid of females in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCRebel Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 So long as Will keeps manipulating Janelle to believe that Marcellas will nominate the two of them if he wins HOH I don't think they need to worry about that. Considering how successful Will has been at manipulating Janelle thus far I don't think it will be too much trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uvp Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 you right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methos Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Instead of Will and Janelle we should start calling them Gepetto and Pinocchio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babydoll Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 All Will needs to do is give Janelle a few kisses and she will fall in line very quick and break up with her bf in the dr.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackersMartini Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 I love that Will plans on ripping their hearts out through their cheap blouses.. I actually cheered.. yes, I know, I'm a dork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flo Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Quote SamTheCat: "to me it doesn't seem to be a question of intelligence/stupidity - I mean are we talking about EQ (ie street smarts?)" You have hit the nail on the head there. That's exactly what it is... It depends on whether one has had exposure to and/or has the shrewd ability to survive in that social climate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
word_girl Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 First of all, Will is entirely dreamy, especially sporting those black knee socks. Second, I, unlike some, have not fallen to my knees in a mesmerized state of mindless appreciation of CT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCRebel Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Good thing their plan isn't to go to the final four with Danielle and James. Their dream final four would be the two of them along with Danielle and Janelle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
word_girl Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 They haven't discussed that dream plan in quite awhile. You can tell that Booger LOVES (in kinda a creepy way) being part of LOD. Taking Danielle is still a bad idea anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wash ur face Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Will and Boogie were smart to pick Danielle and James to play with...That way, they were plugged into every alliance in the house. They were "Chilltown", Danielle was with the "Floatherd", and James was with "SOV". But I'm assuming that the LOD alliance idea came from them. It could have beem James' idea for all I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
word_girl Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Yeah, Wash, I agree the alliance was smart - to begin with though. I'm thinking that it's carried them as far as they can take it to truly benefit. The numbers are getting so low that they have to reveal themselves soon. I think they should step up and get rid of anyone who could beat them in the end, most especially Danielle and James. On the other hand, I would personally love to see Danielle and Janelle as the last two standing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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