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I hope that Jackie is the HG that returns to the game, wins the HOH and puts Steve on the Block against Vanessa.

From the beginning of the game Meg's goal was to make it to the jury to hang out and party. "Mission Accomplished"

Austin's justification for his behavior is because he's in love, so apparently it's OK.

Julia does have a bit of a potty mouth and she's good at name calling too. Julia called Jackie a "stripper" and Steve a "M F". But what really made me laugh was when she said that Johnny Mac was boring and brought nothing to the game.

If Johnny Mac stays in the game, I want him to win HOH and nominate Austin & Liz because neither of them have been on the block facing a possible eviction the entire game. Austin's never been nominated and Liz was only nominated once but won BOB and was safe. If Johnny Mac takes a shot at Vanessa and doesn't have enough votes to evict her, he'll be in the same position as Becky. Steve & Julia still have some loyalty towards Vanessa and she might be able to flip the vote depending on who she's sitting next to on eviction night.

Sorry about the tuna mishap because I wasn't trying to be funny on purpose. I am continually stunned by how dumb the twins are, and they're college educated with degrees in journalism & marketing. I predict that Liz will be in the jury before Austin or Julia because if Liz makes it to F2, she will automatically have 2 jury votes. If Vanessa makes it to F2 she will drag Julia along as her pawn because she really hasn't done anything gamewise except vote.

I think that Julia is the only HG left in the house that Vanessa hasn't screwed over, lied to, or manipulated in some way. Vanessa is not really close to anyone in the game and she does not have 1 trusted ally in the house. Becky putting Vanessa on the block and her reason why really exposed Vanessa's double dealing manipulations. Vanessa says that she can read people, but she has no idea that everybody is on to her. The fact that Vanessa tried to reel Steve back into ther F2 deal was kinda funny. She asked Steve to name his targets for next week, but he did not. She has to realize that if Steve doesn't trust her, then nobody else will either. Vanessa's strategy for winning BB was to make deals, but her deal-making may be the reason she's ultimately evicted.

Vanessa is Steve's BB Mommy. The only problem he has now is that his love for her is no longer unconditional. Vanessa has made herself a huge target, so Steve should be happy because he believes in keeping big targets in he game so he can continue to slide by unnoticed. Steve has noticed how Vanessa uses her emotions to gain sympathy from the other HGs. That's part of the reason that he broke down and cried after the DE.

But would Vanessa really target Austin???? I think that Vanessa is planting seeds of doubt for Julia to target Austin instead of her. I honestly think that if it was F4 with Austin, the twins & Vanessa, she would target Liz because Liz has 2 allies in Austin & Julia. Vanessa would keep Austin or Julia over Liz.

Thanks for the info, I wasn't aware they were sequestered individually prior to the re-enter the game comp. That makes perfect sense. The commiserating doesn't take place until afterwards when all the HGs are out of the game for good. I was confused because I remember one of the evicted HGs bringing in a tape/cd and they all watched it together of how they got evicted & who won the next HOH comp, but I'm assuming that doesn't happen until much later in the jury.

Julia has been a total non-factor in the game since she entered the game following Jason's eviction. After all of the info they received about Vanessa's deals, lies and manipulations, she still believes that Vanessa is good for their game. Today, Julia told Liz that she had a gut feeling that Vanessa would never come after them. Julia clearly does not comprehend how the game of BB works at this stage in the game. If they make the F4 exactly who does Julia think that Vanessa would target?

If Johnny Mac gets evicted instead of Becky this week, I think he has the best chance to win a comp and re-enter the game. Shelli won her 2 HOHs back when the HGs were deliberately throwing the HOH comps. When Shelli's back was against the wall and she was on the block, she failed miserably in both veto comps. Jackie has won 1 BOB and 1 HOH and she's no comp beast either. I wanna see Becky versus Vanessa round 2, and the only way for that to happen is if John gets evicted this week. No offense to Johnny Mac, but I just think that he played Clay & Shelli's game harder than he played his own game. He waited too late to make connections to other HGs. And his emotional plea to be a part of a team was pathetic. I like Johnny Mac because he's funny, I just wish that he had played his own game better.

I'm just glad that James and Meg made it through the week without losing either of them. What would really make for an interesting week, for me, would be that somehow Johnny Mac got evicted and Becky stayed in the game. Vanessa would be furious and would probably lose her mind again. The only 2 HGs that have a "reason" to evict Becky are Vanessa & Steve. Austin & the twins don't care either way because both nominees are targeting Vanessa. James & Meg haven't really collaborated with Johnny Mac the whole game. And even though Becky ratted out James's game to Clay & Shelli, they might feel that they "owe" Becky for not voting out Vanessa last week. Meg & James have no game-related ties to Johnny Mac. If James & Meg had some game they could pitch the idea to Liz as a big move in the game. Austin & the twins are already suspicious about Johnny Mac's numerous DR sessions.

I don't think that Steve is emotionally prepared for the point in the game where they must eventually turn on each other to make it to the end. I believe that his blind loyalty to Vanessa is gonna cost him his game. He can only hide behind Vanessa for so long and because Vanessa has crossed so many of the remaining HGs, Steve may end up getting hit trying to protect Vanessa.

If Becky gets voted out on Thursday she will be reunited with her 2 BFFs in the jury house. They will have a week to share sob stories about how Vanessa screwed them over by getting other HGs to do her dirty work. If Vanessa is not backdoored next week, I believe that Shelli, Jackie, & Becky are highly motivated to get Vanessa out if any of them return to the game. Apparently Vanessa believes that her powers of persuasion extend to the jury house.

Liz is afraid that Vanessa will blow up her game if she tries to backdoor her. When Vanessa hatched the plan to backdoor Austin, Liz was the one who pleaded Austin's case to Vanessa & Shelli because Austin was a number for their side. Even though Vanessa was the HOH who changed the target from Austin to Jason, it looks like Clay & Shelli ultimately paid the price for Jason's eviction. Liz may be afraid of how Vanessa could "spin" that situation into making it look like Liz was the one responsible for Jason's eviction. Other than that, I don't see anything of Liz's game that Vanessa could blow up because Liz has been playing Vanessa's game from the beginning. Who to nominate, what to say, how to vote has all been dictated by Vanessa.

If Julia won the next HOH and nominated Austin & Vanessa I would be impressed with her game because she would be one of the first in that group to actually play their own individual game and separate from the herd. Other than that, Julia really has nothing on her resume to brag about if she makes it to F2. What is her F2 argument? " I always voted with the house and I was loyal to my sister. "

If Meg gets dragged to F2 with anybody she is the only HG in this group that would have absolutely no blood on her hands, but I don't know if that's a good enough resume to win BB17. Can Meg make it to F2 without winning an HOH?

I think that Steve made a huge mistake with Vanessa when he attempted to be honest with her and tell the truth when she was on the block with Shelli last week. Steve assumed that Vanessa didn't have the votes to stay in the game. Based on that assumption, he formed an alliance with Johnny Mac& Shelli and told Vanessa that she didn't have his vote because of the 8 person DE alliance. Vanessa turned on Steve and told Austin & the twins not to trust Steve anymore because he was disloyal to Vanessa. I believe that Steve targeted Jackie as a way to get back in Vanessa's good graces, and apparently it worked because now all is well within the Scamper Squad.

One of the things that really frustrates me with this particular cast is that they always seem to be playing for the next week before the current week has played out. Steve & John were busy making plans for an alliance with Shelli while she was still on the block. They should have been working hard to ensure they had the votes to keep Shelli in the game first. Liz has all the power by winning HOH & veto this week to backdoor Vanessa. Now that they have all this new information about Vanessa, and how she's been lying to them and making deals with all the other HGs, they should make a move on her now. But instead, they are taking out one of Vanessa's targets and leaving her in the game. They are depending on someone else to take out Vanessa next week.

Austin said that Vanessa was acting "self-righteous", and then had to explain what it meant. The twins have said that they attended catholic school and I would expect that "righteousness" would be included somewhere in their primary education.

The twins should at least be happy that they've had alcohol for the past 2 nights. And from some of the stories they tell it kinda makes me think that these 2 might be 'binge drinkers'. From some of the stupid things that they say, I find it hard to believe that they're college graduates.

I find it funny as hell that Austin & the twins are concerned about Vanessa blowing up their games if they attempt to backdoor her. First of all, they haven't played their own games, they've done everything that Vanessa has told them to do that benefits Vanessa's game. If they backdoor Vanessa this week they will have the opportunity to play their own individual games and have something to brag about if they make it to the finals. But as long as Vanessa is in the game they choose to be her puppets and play her game. Austin, as a fan, knows the game and I really wanted to see him play better. I don't fault the twins as much because they really don't know the game.

Steve should have taken out Vanessa during his short reign as HOH with the DE. Vanessa would not have had the time to talk her way out of it or put the target on Meg. That would have been a big move in the game and I seriously doubt that Austin or the twins would be coming after Steve for backdooring Vanessa. Last night Steve was talking to himself about getting closer to Meg and I really don't see that happening since he nominated Jackie & Meg during the DE and Jackie was voted out. Steve missed an opportunity to make a big move that could have been a game changer. He could have even backdoored Austin and broken up a strong trio. Now he finds himself in the situation where his #1 ally is on the block. And since the HGs are still playing Vanessa's game, Becky will probably be evicted on Thursday.

Austin needs to keep reminding Liz that Vanessa set her up to lose the BOB comp so that Austin could be backdoored by Jackie.