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I agree, X is very shrewd and I can't wait to see if he is loyal to the cookout by going after Alyssa next the way he expected Tiffany to do with Claire.  I will not be surprised at all if he chooses to keep Alyssa til the end and go all the way to final 2 with her if given the chance.

What is really sad is that Tiffany is giving up a chance to win a large amount of money just so she can say she was loyal to something that is not likely to be loyal back once they see her give up Claire. That old fearmongering about losing jury votes if you don't remain loyal isn't going to work on X -- he'll do what's best for his game.

And yet, the other Cookout members are already plotting against her.

Keeping Claire is good strategy on Tiff's part, something that should be respected as good game play. In the past, juries who respect good game play are able to overcome personal feelings, even bitterness, to award the best player the winner of the game.

We'll soon see if the cast this year can do the same thing. I'm rooting for Tiffany because I think she has played an excellent game. And believe me, Tiffany winning this game would be huge for BB history.

If she does put up Claire, she's sacrificing her own game for the good of the cookout. Since they will have to evict their own members in the near future (since they're running out of non-cookout members), Tiff needs to go ahead and strategize for her own game at this point. If she waits to take out either Big D or Xavier, it's going to be too late. Better to keep Claire than Big D (or Xavier) IMO.

3 hours ago, Keepittogether said:

Well another season is over. Even though this was so botched with all the pregaming, I think out of the people left in the house, Cody was the most deserving. My favorite part of the finale was seeing Cody evict Nicole and watched her shock!

 

I’m glad Cody took Enzo to final two and that he’s at least going to get 50K. Enzo at least played for the full game, where as Nicole spent the whole first half of the game sleeping, being upset with Bayleigh for her “three guys, three tries” comment and laughing along when Memphis was making fun of Ian for being on the spectrum. So glad she’s going home empty handed. 
 

 

I totally agree with you -- the highlight of this season for me was seeing Nicole go into shock at being evicted by Cody (she was already thinking she was going to make history by being a 2-time winner!).  Cody did exactly what he needed to do and I do believe he deserved the win -- even though a lot of his getting to the end (I believe) was through pre-gaming and forming a pre-game alliance which even Dr. Will said players who do this are disrespecting the game and should be ashamed.

All in all, this was a very disappointing and pathetic season. None of them should feel good about it.

Nicole on the Knight Moves HOH competition that Enzo won -- DOESN'T ENZO KNOW HE'S NOT SUPPOSED TO WIN ANYTHING? HE'S ONLY HERE TO HELP ME AND CODY GET TO THE FINALS!!!!!!!!!

And as if this self-entitlement isn't enough, then Cody weighs in -- DOESN'T ENZO KNOW HE'S NOT SUPPOSED TO ACTUALLY PLAY FOR HIMSELF???  HE AND I ARE SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING TOGETHER AS A TEAMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!

OMG Please win this thing Enzo

Okay, as this thing is getting closer I'm really wondering who Cody will take to final 2 if it's his choice. I wish somehow Enzo could convince Cody to vote out Nicole this week on the basis that he will not win if he's sitting next to her (the jury members have already indicated -- although Cody doesn't know this -- that if Nicole makes it to final 2 they will vote for her to win).

Wouldn't it be better for Cody to take Christmas or Enzo??

Does anyone have any insight on if Cody will cut Enzo in order to take Nicole?

He seems to have a lock with Nicole but also with Enzo. If it's up to him, which one will he choose?? I suspect it will be Enzo, but I could also see it going Nicole since she has already won and she's been pretty pathetic this season.

If the final 2 are Cody and Enzo, I would love to see Enzo win. Long shot but still.

39 minutes ago, WOC said:

The smartest move he made all season was taking the $10,000.

 

I agree 1000%. I think David knew it was a lock for the pre-game alliance and that he and others on the outside never had a chance.

I'll be curious to see if on finale night how much leeway the outsiders of the pre-game alliance will be able to freely discuss how this year was rigged, or if CBS will muffle them in advance and tell them they won't get their stipend if they mention it.

Rigged, yes, with the pre-game alliance, but now I'm beginning to question if they agreed to split the prize at the end since they don't seem to care who ends up "winning," as long as it's the core alliance. Strange.

I feel for Kevin.

As I feel for all the ones who were on the outside of the pre-game alliance. Even Dani said she felt bad for those who never had a chance.

I hope there's a lawsuit in the works for fraud. No one outside of the pre-gamers ever had a chance. And even Dr. Will said the pre-gamers (if, in fact, that is what they are and Dani confirmed it so I believe it 100%) should be ashamed for making a mockery of the game (I'm paraphrasing but that's the gist of it).

Yes, Kaysar actually called it a love triangle between Cody, Dani, and Nicole.

Cody is such a sheep (as all these so-called "all stars" are) that I can't tell if he really wanted to vote out Dani or was just going along with the herd.

21 minutes ago, WOC said:

She actually won a comp all on her on! Has that ever happened before?

 

No.

She.Is.Disgusting.

Worse BB houseguest EVER. She and Dick Donato belong together. And that's being generous.

1 hour ago, Keepittogether said:

Even though I wish he’d shower more frequently, other than David I’d like to see Enzo make it to the end.  He’s playing an amazing social game and seems to be covered on many sides. I like that he’s working with David and that he sees how lame it is to just keep nominating Kevin week after week. He’s my pick to make it until the end.

Yes, I agree. In this train wreck of a season, Enzo seems to be the lesser of the evils in that house. And like you, I want to see David go to the end (and win!), but I wouldn't mind seeing Enzo there as well. The ones I definitely DON'T want to see at the end are Xmas, Memphis, Cody, and Nicole.

How frequently (unfrequently) does Enzo shower? I'm not a super close watcher so I didn't know that was happening.

2 hours ago, Keepittogether said:

Nicole is about to get what’s coming to her. She lied again to Day’s face today when asked if she voted to keep Ian. 
 

Xmas just made a deal with David, that she will tell Day the truth in her goodbye message that Nicole voted Ian out. 
 

It’s stupid that Day believed Nicole in the first place, since she has a history of betraying her, but I’m glad she will find out the truth before she goes into jury. She’ll not only know she was lied to repeatedly by Nicole, but she’ll be able to tell Ian the truth about his “bestie” who supposedly loves him so much.

I hurt for Da'Vonne and what she is going to have to deal with from her own actions (she really should have known better). But Ian?  Oh, I so look forward to his reckoning on Nicole. 

Yes, I so agree with you straykat. I keep going back to Kaysar and how hard he tried to get Bay to see the writing on the wall. Even Bay wanted to think she was of the "privileged" and did not want to associate with the outcasts. But if the marginalized ones had stuck together -- oh wow. They could have been a real force to take down the pre-game / privileged alliance.  Why could it not have gone that way?????  The dream team could have been -- Kaysar, Janelle, Keesha, Bay, Day, David, Kevin (and maybe even Nicole A if she hadn't gone completely nuts).

2 hours ago, Keepittogether said:

 

He’s a good person to take to the end because a lot of people in jury won’t want to vote for a rookie.

I really like this way of thinking, but I would also like to see it backfire. I hope the jury is the most pissed off jury in the history of BB b/c of the pre-game alliance and the way in which the people of color were so marginalized (including Kaysar, who tried to tell the others what was going on). I hope it backfires and they disregard whichever of the privileged in-crowd might be sitting next to David (thinking he is a goat) and SURPRISE the jury for once awards the goat and gives the finger to the privileged.

It is truly painful to watch her treat David the way she does. She is so, so wrong about him. I actually dread it for her when she finds out just how bad she's been played by Nicole. She'll have a lot of remorse to live with.

25 minutes ago, WOC said:

I think it would be fitting if David won BB this season. It would be the perfect ending to this crap season. I actually felt sorry for him while watching last night's episode. He is definitely the worst player so only fitting that he would win.

Hahaha. Yes I so agree with you. It would truly be a fitting end to this horrible train wreck of a season. David / Kevin / Day are really the only hope I have for a positive ending, but it being David would be the best.

Memphis needs to go and fast. He is just a despicable person who loathes people of color. The way he spoke to David in the HOH room made me ill. His body language, the tone of his voice, the heavy-handed way he offered the "deal" to David. All of it. Just sickening.

40 minutes ago, Bibbs said:

I would not be surprised if he puts up the two black people on the block.  He is going to have to put two people of color up since they are outside of the Committee.  BB is going to look bad after this Memphis thing especially since his alliance formed before this season began.  Even worse is this alliance is an all white cast. I do not care that a person of color does not win. I just hate that they did not have a chance to win.

I so agree with you. I do not like to see when some of the houseguests never had a chance to begin with. It's just not fair. And I do question how much producers knew, when they knew, and why they haven't tried to prevent it, or correct it.

Memphis is a racist jackass, but CBS doesn't look all that much better at this point. Trying to defend or explain what he said is ridiculous.

I agree. I think Nicole and Dani will be the 2 most expendable -- right now Cody and Memphis are running things, but there are several gaping holes that could be exploited that would set them back. They're not playing that good of a game -- Cody and Memphis just happen to be in "control" of the women's decisions. Nicole and Dani are going along with it.

That and no one in this cast wants to be associated with the people of color.

After viewing a couple times, I'm convinced he did say it.

Oh my gosh. Ian is having a breakdown. Suddenly, he is so concerned about his going from being a "winner" of a past season to the first one to the jury.

Where has he been all season???  He actually thought he could lay low and slide through. But he should have seen the writing on the wall -- it's been rigged out of the gate, and Kaysar + others tried to tell him and he thought he could afford to sit by idly while others got eliminated.

Now, he just needs to GO.  This season, he cannot play the game like he did last time. Totally different dynamic in the house. I thought he was smart and would grasp that.

26 minutes ago, Bibbs said:

 I would love to see Tyler and jackhole Memphis be get on the block together.

That would be great! the only thing better would be Xmas and Memphis on the block together, with Cody as back up. I would absolutely backdoor Cody.

No, it didn't work out that way because the Core entered with a pre-game alliance and no one other than those in the alliance stood a chance. Danielle herself said recently that she felt bad because everyone outside of their group never stood a chance this season but didn't know it.

There should be a lawsuit filed against CBS for allowing this kind of fraud. If anyone did the playing, it was CBS in duping the ones who never stood a chance up against what the pre-game alliance planned and executed. The group has talked openly about their pre-game plan, and the producers have not done anything to correct it or impose any type of penalty on what is happening. If I was one of the outsiders (which includes quite a few people), I would feel totally humiliated for agreeing to be a part of such a corrupt setup.