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1 hour ago, WOC said:

 

Yes! A bowl for two with ice cream, peanut butter, cookie dough, and whipped cream!

The ice cream coats her stomach and helps her digest her food better. 

13 minutes ago, WickedOne said:

The bloodier the better.

Yeah, I wish we could get another season like season 6 with two sides that basically hate each other. 

27 minutes ago, NYROSE said:

Nothing you say dislodges what I have said...and while I agree with you, given that all is ok in this game...that means even bullying...saying things about people personally and getting a group to egg someone on...are all strategies...and Paul uses them...his attack on Mark the fact that Jason betrayed that Mark suggested getting rid of Paul are all part of the web that Paul has created that is making him successful and it is nuts that no one sees it. Mark does, but he can not do anything because with Jason's betrayal, no one will want to allow him to make that move with them without running to Paul...at least that is the environment Paul has created and which they all agree to. We watch disbelieving that people can be so utterly stupid.

I wasn't trying to dislodge what you said. I was just offering a different perspective. Bullying, lying, stabbing people in the back, it is all part of that game and may be the right strategy for some people. But what I am saying is that there is a whole lot of real life taking place in the game and game strategies often have an impact on "real life" feelings. Where game ends and real life begins can be murky and completely different for different people. For some, the whole thing may be about playing a silly game, but, for others, the "game" may be as serious as taking a second job so they can afford braces for their kid. 

As to Paul, he's playing a great game that is taylored to the people in the game. I can't fault him for taking advantage of all the advantages that BB gave him. However, I can't pat him on the back for being a great player. He's been given too many advantages for that. Basically, I would make this comparison...there are a lot of great college football players. But, when they move up and play against the pro's, they are just average and many are below average. But, if they went back to play college, they would be even greater than before. That is the way I see Paul. He's a pro that got a chance to go back and play against college players. So, he looks a lot greater than what he is. 

2 minutes ago, NYROSE said:

yes it is a matter of opinion and in normal circumstances we don't want people walking on our tables in our homes, but this place is not a home at all and the general filth and disrespect of decent living these people loll about in...makes the walk no great faux pas.

The walk made for great tv. I also like that he just walked out without going through the phony great game I love you crap. When he got to the door, I wish he would have turned around and gave them "deuces bitches". 

3 hours ago, WOC said:

I read this elsewhere and thought it was an interesting idea, not that it would ever come to fruition. Why not a season where all of the Hgs are the players who were voted out first in their season. I like it.

they did a season similar to that. It wasn't all the first persons voted out but it was a bunch of players that were voted out early. I can't remember which season or what players, but I do remember them doing that. 

5 hours ago, straykat said:

 

Cody totally mishandled the aftermath of Paul's pendant reveal. He got angry and shut everyone out. If he had brought the couples back upstairs and explained how he thinks Paul is the most dangerous HG because he is a vet and he played a pretty mean game last time. He could say he was trying to keep the others safe by being able to say it was his decision alone, no blood on their hands. And he could point out that he was right about Paul being bad for the house because he as given three damn weeks of safety. Maybe, just maybe, this would have kept those four from climbing up Paul's ass. But maybe not. These people are sheep.

I could be wrong, my memory is not what it used to be, but, I am not sure when, but I thought Cody did talk to them and tell them about why he tried to backdoor Paul, his being a vet that made it to f2 last year, etc. And I seem to remember him pointing out to other folks that Paul had kept the 3 weeks safety secret from the rest of the alliance. As I said, I could be wrong, 

I always thought his fatal flaw was not telling the main alliance about his plan before the backdoor move. After he had thrown the veto to Alex, it made it look like he was just playing for himself and could not be trusted. 

3 minutes ago, HeleneL said:

ITA.  For him it was a means to win some money to better his situation.  He was bashed for "leaving" his child for a whole summer to come and play this game.  It wasn't a game to him. I absolutely believed he would use whatever money he made and go visit his daughter after this clusterfuck.  Pardon my french!  I hope he wins AFP and gets that $25K or whatever. Too bad I can't vote for him.

I don't have any problem with Cody coming to play a game and try to win $500,000 to improve his life. I served in the military and spent up to a year away from my family. I know plenty of folks that left their family and went on remote assignments, to training schools, special duty assignments, etc, to improve their career prospects. Oftentimes, those assignments were not required. I also know people who went to Afganistan and Iraq as civilian contractors to improve the family finances. I don't look down on those folks or question their motives. So when I see people downing Cody for coming on BB, I just chalk it up to "know it alls" that think that their life is the only acceptable way to make it through life. However, I am not going to spend my whole life trying to judge how everyone else lives theirs. 

4 hours ago, NYROSE said:

The problem for Cody was that he has blurred the concept of game and reality ...and who knows how being in a warring environment contributed to that lack of distinction?

Blurred the concept? Maybe. But I look at it like this, some things and some actions are just part of the game, such as lying and deceiving. However, bullying is not just part the game. Bullying is personal. As part of the game, would you think it would be ok if one player disparaged your mother and your children? When I was younger, trashing each others gf/bf, spouses, parents, etc was done on a regular basis and we had a good laugh. We don't do it anymore because it is not funny and will get you hurt. Some people take things more seriously than others and when Cody said that it was not a game, I took it as him saying he didn't come for summer camp. He came to work. When he arrived, he was reporting to do a job that pays real money and he was there to earn $500,000.

I guess it is a matter of perspective. For some, it is just a game. For others, it is a job. And for others, it is a competition in which an alt-reality meets real life. Considering that Cody was a sniper, I don't think many things are a game to him. More than likely, he's deadly serious about pretty much everything.   

12 minutes ago, HeleneL said:

Maybe... But I'd be willing to bet their $500K that if Alex had sat Paul next to Elena and Matt they STILL would not have voted him out.  They're missing several brain cells it seems, especially the ones sending signals to the backbone.

The problem with getting Paul out now is that not only does someone have to get the backbone to put him on the block, they have to trust that the other minions will vote him out. That is why I do not think he will be voted out. There is no opposing alliance to put the votes together. 

36 minutes ago, NYROSE said:

did any of you catch the Biblical reference when Alex sent Cody to the block with "I wash my hands of this" when she could have made BB history this season had she backdoored Paul?

Is that what it was? I thought she was just doing the standard cowardly cop-out of blaming the house. 

Were they all too afraid to pick Paul or was it they were just trying to make him win. If he would not have been forced to take a shot in shuffleboard, he would have been HOH by default. Just a spineless bunch. 

40 minutes ago, carmen said:

If Elena is that far down the totem pole and likely to go next, why would she not try to get some traction going against the powers in the house?  I keep saying it, all it would take is for her, Mark, Kevin, Matt, Cody and Raven to join forces and voila suddenly Paul, Xmas, Alex, and Josh no longer have the numbers.  The two couples + Kevin are all vulnerable.  Now would be the time to do something about it.

 

But I guess playing to make it to the jury house is all they want.  Pathetic.

Maybe Elena will follow Cody out of the house tonight since it's double eviction night.

That would be nice, but right now three of those are on the block. 

3 hours ago, WOC said:

 

At this point I don't think anything could save her game because the mob has decided she's on the outs. I'm with Cody on this and thinks it's rather funny every time Alex has to set up camp and cook hotdogs. When Alex got all in her face over this whole thing I would have loved it if Elena would have answered with "yeah I have $5000, now go cook me a hotdog!" Elena is done unless she or Mark can win HOH so why capitulate? 

ITA. She's at the bottom of the alliance and she knows that. She would have been a fool to pass up the $5000. If she would have kept the punishment, she would still be in the same position in the alliance. She could have taken the veto and ensured that she would go next week instead of this week, but that is it. Chances are she's still slotted for eviction next week. 

21 minutes ago, WOC said:

If you haven't read this, you should...

 

http://blog.eveldick.com/394-394

Good analysis, but he apparently forgot the Coup-de-ta or whatever it was to save Jeff and Jordan. In my opinion, that was one of the biggest screw jobs of all time, with the Pandora's box to save Rachel and Jordan. But back to this season, Evil Dick is saying what I have said all along. BB set it up so that Paul could be safe and control the 1st half of the game. 

44 minutes ago, Kuklafranolly said:

I don't understand how superfan Alex doesn't see through Paul and realize that Jason is not going to be protected by Paul and therefore her game is not safe with him as leader. It's quite obvious that Christmas is going to the end since she can't compete physically so does Alex really think she has a spot before Maven with Paul?

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I think as far as Alex is concerned, Paul is her ride or die and Jason is her side piece. Early in the game when she and Paul made the f2 deal, she said that was what she was really looking for. So, in her mind, everything that Paul does is for the benefit of both of them. 

1 hour ago, HeleneL said:

Watching last night's BBAD this morning, I had a small glimmer of hope (mind you VERY tiny) when Cody was talking with Alex and Jason and outlining a few scenarios that might/could keep him in the house and they all seemed to seriously consider it.  But then Lord and Master trouped in with the sheep and small talk took over.  But Alex showed how thoroughly stupid she was after most of them left (I actually thought she was a little smarter than the others) and relayed the whole convo to Paul and Xmas, constantly giggling over it.  I can't believe how thoroughly brainwashed they all are.  Programmed robots!  

I think Alex had a lot of fans for the first two weeks. Then she showed her true colors. That color is brown from being so far up Paul's ass. I don't think I have ever seen a person more giddy about being a minion. 

22 minutes ago, straykat said:

 

This is mostly on Paul but the others follow him without a second thought. He tells them to shun and isolate the ones he is setting up for eviction and they happily follow his orders. Can't believe that none of them think about who will be next to be left out in the cold. Josh said, once Cody, Elena and Mark are gone everything will be good. Doesn't he realize that they will all but two be following those three out the door?

In Josh's mind, once Cody, Mark and Elena are gone, they will be in rapture and everything will be at peace in summer camp.  

1 hour ago, straykat said:

 

I agree. I can't imagine how crushing it would be to go thru the whole procedure to get in the house, waiting anxiously in seclusion for the day to finally come and then to be thrown away for nothing. And then to have to sit again for weeks for that small opportunity to get back in. Seems very cruel. 

Yeah, I would not have blamed Cameron if he would have given CBS the double salute after the competition to get back in the house. He probably spent 50 times more hours in seclusion than he did in the house.  

9 hours ago, HeleneL said:

Absolutely!  You can't hand out friendship bracelets or decide who has to go after an hour of talking to people.  The two week "get to know you period" would be a good thing.

I've never understood why BB does the opening night eviction BS, but they seem to do it about every season. In a game where inter-personal relationships are such a huge part of the game, it doesn't make sense to have such quick evictions. I would prefer a double eviction after two "get to know you weeks" rather than the quick eviction. 

7 minutes ago, HeleneL said:

Really!  Hope Matt and Raven weren't in those "others".  Lots of groping and kissing with Jody but cameras sure lingered a long time on Maven having intercourse the other night.  Left nothing to the imagination.  Have to assume if you have live feeds you see a lot more than I do on BBAD.  From what I've seen Josh came in the house in a defensive mood.  Get them before they get me.  He imagined everyone would be against him; says he saw it in their demeanor and their eyes so he grabbed that apple in the first comp.  He never gave anyone a chance to get to know him and acted out like a child.  I did not like him from the first minute and still don't no matter how hard he's trying to explain himself or his behavior.  Worried about his poor Mama and his familia seeing him being disrespected.  He should be worried more about how embarrassed his familia is with his behavior.   I know I'm in the minority but that's just my opinion.

Why would you think you are in the minority? Josh is probably one of the biggest punks to ever be in the BB house. He went on the attack against Megan before she even knew what was going on. His biggest contribution to the season is being a big mouth attack dog and Paul's flunky. I don't see where he brings anything of value to the game. 

Every year there's a level of contestant hate directed at one or two players that just seems over-the-top. But, this year is going to a whole new level in my opinion. I believe we are moving into the irrational obsession level. 

27 minutes ago, straykat said:

 

I remember Amanda and McCrae spent most of their time in bed but Amanda made sure she got up and stomped around the house often enough to keep her hand in everything that was going on. I don't think McCrae did much to keep them solid in their alliances, it was pretty much all Amanda's work. Jessica was never able to really pull anyone close again after Cody threw Paul and then Xmas on the block. She didn't have the personality to charm or lead. And then Paul was playing the betrayed victim for the rest of the sheep who just happily turned their games over into his hands. 

I couldn't remember her name, and yes, they spent a lot of time in bed. For a major part of the game, she was basically running the show. She could be a bully also and she treated Rachel's sister so bad.  But, in that situation, they eventually voted her out because the guys had a strong side alliance going and they were ready to take advantage when they got the opportunity. Personally, I don't see that happening here. I could be proven wrong, but, I think they all see themselves being f2 with Paul.

2 minutes ago, NYROSE said:

Josh would have gone home and not been HOH and not evicted her ass...and how she would have been seen by the group...well that never changed ever did it...but it might were anyone to actually notice...and they might eventually...that Paul is doing what he is doing.

OK, I guess we just see this completely different.

1 minute ago, NYROSE said:

Paul as a replacement...DUH

Josh would have gone home, but her goal of re-establishing herself with the group would have been destroyed. 

Just now, WOC said:

 

Ironic that you are commenting about other posters in your post. LOL!

LOL. good observation.