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4 minutes ago, Lamasquerade said:

If she knew the game like she said she did or took a page out of book from Cody's hoh when he assumed things she would have known nothing is at is looks and she should have saved him.

In my opinion, the problem wasn't saving him, the problem would be in picking a replacement. When you are on the bottom, it is kinda hard to say "I trust y'all" but you replace the pawn. That is a dead give away that you do not trust the group that you are trying to work your back into.

15 minutes ago, NYROSE said:

yes...and was Dan the one who engineered that fantastic scenario ...I forget what it was all about...but there was one player who came up with a story that absolutely turned the house...I'd love to watch that piece of mastery again...he deserved to win for that.

The difference is that Dan was a veteran and he was playing with a bunch of dummies, some who was even dumber than the group that is there now. He also had some magic dust in his pocket and maybe a little help from production. The biggest part though was being a veteran and understanding how the game is played. What really helps the veteran is not only the experience of playing a season, but, having the opportunity to go back and review that season on tape, getting to see the visual and verbal cues that were missed the first time really puts you head and shoulders above the new competition. 

31 minutes ago, HeleneL said:

BB better be careful not to bring any Koolaid in there.

 

LOL.

47 minutes ago, WOC said:

 

Rule #1

 

Last night Paul was lecturing his minions about how Jess destroyed her game over Cody. He was saying they gave her a chance to let Cody go and not use her hex but she didn't do it and now she's gone. And they all agree while patting themselves on their smug backs. I'm amazed while I watch! I clearly remember what they all seem to have conveniently forgot, that their plan was to convince her not to use the hex and then vote her out after they convinced her she was safe and Cody was the target.  

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Often times, we see and hear what we want to, rather than actually facing what really happened.  

19 minutes ago, NYROSE said:

I hate movies that run the plot based on the characters not saying some essential truth that causes all the misunderstanding and drama to continue. Yet here we have seen that thrice now at least in BB...Jess had a temptation and she was eager to let Paul know what it was, but he would not ask...and then Josh wanted Elena out but neither Jess nor Cody would let him tell them. And it seems no one is noticing that Kevin really wanted to align with them...yet he made the mistake of including Paul in his line up...and yet if Jody had bothered to let him know that Paul in being in his list made the list unworkable...he probably would have recanted it...such a group of idiots...ugh.

If there were a few smart people in the house, Mark, Elana, Matt and Raven would have a tight side group and they could pull in 2 or 3 extra to control the vote and run the house. But, I think Mark would be the only one willing to go that route, the lips of the others are glued to Paul's ass. Matt and Raven should know that couples become targets when their numbers are no longer needed. It is just a matter of time before they are Paul's targets. 

10 minutes ago, HeleneL said:

Yes she did.  But if she had just stopped for a minute and listened when Josh wanted to talk to her and if Cody hadn't butted in at that moment and if Josh hadn't been so worried about being overheard saying she wasn't his target, she might have stood a slim chance of turning things around and Josh getting his way with Elena out the door.  But that's a lot of ifs and shoulda, woulda, coulda now.

Yeah, a lot of if's. From her perspective, Josh had been goading them and gloating since the start of the game. They had already had a big blow up, I can understand her thinking that all Josh was looking to do was gloat some more. 

13 minutes ago, Roli said:

 

Thank you for the compliments.  I enjoy reading your posts too.  We don't always agree, but your posts always have a respectful tone.  

 

I'm really not a "Josh fan".  I just see him as sort of an immature 23 year old guy who has led a sheltered life.  He has made some mistakes, but he does have some depth.  I think some here can't look past the immaturity to see that he's really not such a bad guy.  I think he will learn from this experience, and he has the capacity to regret some of his actions. I say this as the mother of adult sons, and they made their share of stupid decisions when they were in their early 20's.  (They're WAY better now.  )

 

 I'm not so sure Jessica has the capacity to learn from her mistakes.  First she'd have to admit to herself that she has made mistakes, but her attitude seems to usually be that everything is somebody else's fault.    

When talking to Julie, she clearly said that if she was not Josh's target, then her eviction was on her. 

1 minute ago, Roli said:

 

She forgot the cardinal rule of BB.  Trust nobody but yourself.  You can act like you trust others, but there's only one winner on BB.  

That may be, but most people who win BB have 1 or 2 people in the house that they trust. But whether it is true or not, who was she going to put up if she pulled Ramses down? And, if she pulled him down, that would have sent the signal that she did not trust any of them, which is worst than putting your trust in other people. 

7 minutes ago, Roli said:

 

Yeah, not taking Ramses off the block was probably a fatal mistake for her.  Stupid.  

If I remember correctly, at the time of the veto meeting, she was still under the impression that Ranses was safe. She thought about taking Ramses down, just in case, but, at the time she was trying to work her way back into everyone's "good graces". If she took Ramses down, she would have to put up someone and that was going to cause bigger problems for her. She didn't find out that they were all lying until the day before eviction. At least that is how I remember it. 

1 hour ago, WOC said:

 

Maybe it's just me, but what a person does outside of the house means little to me. It's what they do in the house. I don't really care about if she is a call girl or if Paul is a pothead. I don't want to know either of them aside from what they do in the house. In all actuality, Jess has acted no worse then any of the other women in the house at this moment. I'd prefer her personality over Raven's,. Alex's, or Xmas' any day. I just never understood the constant degrading of Jess. Raven has extensions too. Raven wears the fake eyelashes too. Yet Raven runs around the house with diarrhea of the mouth and Jess is laid up with Cody. I really don't get the apparent "hate". She's gone now so what does it matter? I did enjoy defending her because so many seemed to relish in putting her down.

Well said, ITA. 

34 minutes ago, BBLover4ever said:

Not happy that she is HOH but she is better than Raven!  Hope Cody can pull off safety this week even though Paul is already working the group to keep him from it. Not understanding why someone doesn't ask Paul to be the 3rd nominee and see how he feels about trusting them!

She's just the face, Paul is the HOH. The biggest difference, if Raven would have won, I assume Matt would have gotten to sleep in the HOH a few nights. But as I said, I assume, Paul might have told him no. 

29 minutes ago, Newby said:

YES!!  CBS & BB need to clean house in production for this huge  mistake.  Although who could have guess that most all of the HG would be sheep.  And Paul quickly got rid of those who had an inkling of what was going on.  Personally I think he is getting help from production big time.  He does not appear that smart to me.

First off, I don't like vets coming back. In this case, I don't think you would have had so many sheep if CBS would have bought other vets to be a counter voice to Paul. If Paul wasn't there, I think it would be a much different game with more people actually trying to play and strategize. But, since Paul is the only vet, he has a strong personality, plus, he was made untouchable during the early and most formative part of the game, he was able to establish himself as the boss. 

3 minutes ago, WOC said:

 

The HGs have shown they're not that bright or forward thinking. I'd bet most of them think they are playing a really good game and have a great chance of winning on their own merits.

bingo.

1 hour ago, carmen said:

And just when I didn't think she could get any meaner, she showed she was meaner. 

I guess she will have her chance to get Jess' sloppy seconds now. 

13 minutes ago, Gram02 said:

 Do you think the houseguest know that only ONE person wins 500,000?  TA TA TA DA TA......

 

Yes, apparently they are all fine with Paul being that only person.

3 minutes ago, carmen said:

 

ITA.  And the ones who have resisted Paul have been scapegoated to no end.  I dislike Cody and Jessica, but the pile on hate (I would argue) is a direct result of Paul.

It would be scary to go a different path away from Paul for fear of being another scapegoat, but if enough of them pull together maybe they could get some steam to take

away some of the power Paul currently has.  If no one's going to do it, they might as well write Paul a check right now and save the rest of us from the misery of

watching this disaster.

Normally, by this point in the season, you have a couple of serious side alliances of 2-4 people that are just waiting for an opportunity to make a move. This season, it seems every one of the players is looking for a way to please Paul. I am not seeing where any of them are thinking about ways that they might get Paul out and they are not thinking about what happens if they are sitting beside Paul at the end. 

In the end, Josh ended up with a wasted HOH, because Jess eviction helps Paul's game a lot more than it helps his. It was just another week as if Paul was the HOH because he got absolutely everything he wanted. None of these people know how to play. It seems as if CBS intentionally went out and found 10 - 12 people who did not understand anything about BB and then they put Paul in for the win. 

I can't believe this guy. Paul says go tell her to spell evicted and he jumps up and runs to do it. I hope Paul doesn't tell him to bark or roll over.  

1 hour ago, Hanna said:

I really wish BB would stop bringing returning players back. It is only good for an All Stars season. It ruins the season for me when vets are mixed with newbies.

In this case, just bringing back one vet, then giving him safety for three weeks gave him a huge advantage. Not only did he have a full season of experience and the safety, he got to ingratiate himself with the newbies by giving half the players safety for the first eviction. CBS pretty much set Paul up to make it through at least half the season. 

44 minutes ago, Aldrich said:

My comment was in reference to Cody & Jess and the comments we were making re them/him?!   

That's rich when someone throws a brick and then accuses you of being off topic because you decided to talk about the brick and the broken window. 

6 hours ago, PinkyLee said:

 

Sounds good but I think Paul has already filled their heads with his own agenda.  Im very happy to hear production has stepped in 

and told Josh to knock it off with the pots and pans.  I also feel production has spoken to Paul as well...Paul seems to be trying to step back a bit.

Or maybe he just walked into the DR and realized he cant stand followers lol talk about a hypocrite.  

I would have preferred if production would have stepped in and told Mark it was ok to whip his punk ass. 

30 minutes ago, graceomalley said:

*steps carefully into this thread*  I'm still rooting for both of them - I'm probably in the minority in that, but they seem to be the only ones who see Paul for what he truly is - they are also, it would seem, the only two willing to go against him - Jess is smart and she refuses to take any crap from anyone but that just might be her biggest problem - as for Cody - I'm keeping his Military service separate from his time on BB - what I see is a guy who has not reacted unless a threat - perceived or not - is thrown at Jess - that makes him defensive - it could be seen as a gentleman defending his loved ones honor, or it could be viewed as a really bad move - I see it as both - I do think they need to be moving about the house more alone and together though - still hoping for them to pull through and knock Paul out - of the game NOT unconscious  - Paul is the problem in all of this - not them -

I think Cody's game ended up doomed in the first week. By not telling his alliance what he was doing, it made him look like he was only playing for himself. So, his alliance turned on him. Now, I think he is having a hard time coming around and playing with the others because he doesn't understand why all of them turned on him so easily. However, he really needs to try and put that aside and start working on planting some seeds of distrust about the others. I don't think he has to be Mr Chatty, but, he needs to make his chats count for something. 

5 minutes ago, Roli said:

 

I can't help you.  Sorry.

Well, thank you for your time and attention. Sorry we don't see things the same way. 

47 minutes ago, HeleneL said:

In the feeds update she tells Matt that she's pretty sure Amazing Race will get in touch with her.  Don't these people find real jobs?  Anyway how is she going to cope with her "disease" when she is forced to eat some of the more exotic "treats" in foreign countries. 

From the way things look, there isn't anything that she really can't eat if she wants to. 

8 minutes ago, Roli said:

 

No, he didn't.  He made an analogy.  If you don't know what that means, you could look it up.  It could be your learning experience for the day.  

Definitions for analogy: 1. a comparison between two things, typically for the purpose of explanation or clarification. 2. a correspondence or partial similarity. 3.a thing that is comparable to something else in significant respects. In other words, Cody's service is compared or equated to that of criminals and is not deserving of respect.