joystiick

dede - you are wasting your time trying to argue based on reality and rational. You can't reason with a fat lady in the ice cream store or a crackhead in a crack house. So, your trying to reason here is a waste of your Sunday. I agree with pretty much everything that you have said. The worst part of this whole thing is that the other players will probably to afraid to go after J/R now because they will fear the same thing happening to them. The final 2 is set. I guess the only thing to decide now is who wants to be third?

I think Shelly has a decent chance of winning. The veterans sitting in the JH now are gamers and they will vote for the player that made the best moves. If the game ended today, Shelly would beat A and P and she would get at least 3 votes from the vets. I think she really improved her chances by flipping and helping take out Jeff. She went from absolutely no chance to about a 25 to 1 chance. If every thing falls into place, she could win the money. IMO, Kalia is probably at the top of the list of newbies. Since no one wants to hurt Jordan's feelings, she would beat Rachel heads up. Kalia would also beat Rachel.

I don't care if she is a nut job outside the house. Inside the house she made a great move at the right time. She is trying to make it to the end. That deserves a pat on the back. She should quit worrying about Jordo and play her game. Jordo is a grown woman that made her own decision to come back into the house. Jordo needs to just shut up and play the game. Otherwise she needs to DOR.

So, I guess Big Jeff knows he got got...

"batshit"? You are being nice. It's probably safer to defend and claim to be friends with Osama and Moammar Gadhafi than to insult Jordo.

you are so right. I wish people would leave the players families and all the other personal mess out of reality tv. I doubt the houseguest are the same people outside the house as they are inside the house. I personally thought Dick was a vile piece of beattle dung inside the house but I do not know what kind of person he is outside the house. I have no opinion of his relationship with Dani or anyone else outside the house. Inside the house, he is, without a doubt, the most OVER-RATED player in BB history.

I call you no.2 above, a coattail rider. All the blood is on someone elses hands while she reaps all the benefits.

It's not that much to assume. If Shelly would not have flipped, it would have been J/J/A/S...alll playing for J/J to go to the end. The otherside would have been K/P. In that situation, even with P being HOH, the J/J side would control who went home. The odds would have been almost 100% that J/J would be F3. Her best move was to quit playing for J/J and play for herself. I am not a Shelly fan, I was for D/K and now K, but I will say to Shelly, WELCOME TO THE PARTY (the evil side, the coven, the wicked witches, the bitches, the WINNERS!!!!!).

Shelly had abosulutely zero chance of coming in first or second if she stayed with J/J. She would have been a fool not to take this chance to improve her chances of winning. At least now she does have a chance. "Some" chance is better than "no" chance so, she would have been stupid not to "flip". I can't believe that people feel that houseguest should come into the house and spend the whole summer trying to make sure someone else won half a million dollars. Everyone there is there to win the money and they should do what ever it takes to try and win. In the end, BB is just like Survivor. Your goal is to "Outwit" *Outplay" "Outlast" the other players. As far as Jeff blowing up on her b4 the show...another dumb move by a guy who brought in the exact same strategy of "bullying and intimidation" from his previous season to this one. Once Shelly saw that she did not have the votes to keep Dani, she would have voted with the house. But, by Dumbo calling her out, he forced her to be on the other side. If he would not have done that, when he ended up on the block, Shelly may have voted for R since she spent the last two weeks hating R. But, Big Jeff gave her a reason to vote him out because he started drinking his own koolaid...

When you say that Adam would have a better chance with J/J...do you mean getting to the final 3 or winning? This is a serious question because I don't see how he has a better chance of winning against those two. If we are only talking about getting to the final 3 or 4, I might be able to be convinced of that (although I think it is stupid to let a couple make the final 5) but if you are talking about actually winning money, why wouldn't he want to sit across from someone that the house hates more (dani) or someone that the house believes did less (S/P).

He's smart enough to figure out everything except...how to play the game. Anybody who has ever watch BB knows that you never ever put your a** on the line. Never ever throw a veto if you are on the block. It may work out since his partner is also dumb. I don't know what BB he watched but he should know that the only sure vote is when you are voting for someone else.

I believe he quit. He no longer has the heart to stick it out. I always felt that ED was just an obnoxious bully and I believe he is the most over-rated player in the history of BB.