CasperSabe

Honestly she loves him .. she thinks he hangs the moon. I don't actually think that he's a bad guy, I think their chemistry together just has issues. That being said, when I look back on some of my past relationships and how wrong things went with them and the way some of those guys treated me .. I could just cry for my former self. I hope that Rachel doesn't someday have any regrets about her time with Brendon. I honestly hope they get some couples counseling, learn how to communicate better with one another, and can have the happy ending that she so wants for them.

Game wise -- I think that it really sucks that he's going this week. Shelly should be the one to go in my mind. I am really mad at J and J saying "we don't have the votes" when if they wanted to, they could very easily. All it would take would be the vets talking to Adam, and being like listen .. we wont put you up next week, if you keep Brendon. Poof, done deal.

Evil Dick seemed to think that Dani was dumb, because the vets had the votes .. but I personally think they don't because Adam .. has jumped ship .. AGAIN.

In my mind, he's just proving he's disloyal way too much. It will bite Adam's game play worse than it needs to, but it is, what it is.

Sorry Brendon. I voted like crazy for you to come back, and as much as I love Rachel I have to admit that the other house guests dislike of her, did you in. I think they will regret it, because Shelly really can't be trusted, and Shelly really is a liar. But atm unless something drastic changes it was too little too late.

Good luck with your PHD. =)

I personally think that Brendon cries too much for me. But physically he's quite attractive. He's also funny at times, and I personally like Brenden and Rachel and think they are sweet together. To each their own though I guess.

I thought he was doing a great job when talking to Dani earlier in the week. We'll have to see what happens with the veto.

I really hope she leaves Brendon and Rachel alone this week. I really hate it when someone comes back and then it's poof out the door again.

I had always liked Brendon until last week and his boneheaded move. All I can say is ask yourself if Rachel would do the same for you she never would. Because she is a selfish brat.

I don't really like the competition that the current HG's got to sit right there and cheer them on. Of course nobody dared to help Lawon, because Queen Rachel would eat them alive lol.

That said not sure I can bring myself to forgive his idiot move and like him again.

Quite a few were calling for Lawon too actually.

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I am so excited!!!

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I will miss his diary rooms .. they are always the best.

My theory about the whole "I didn't volunteer" bit is like .. buyers remorse. He regrets that cute top of an idea Dani pitched him and is now trying to get people on his side .. against them.

He is playing like he had no clue he was going up and he was blindsided. Doesn't everyone know he volunteered?

Why is he playing this drama game?

His goal is make it so the vets are surprised and think he's mad when he comes back in the house.

Yep.. he would be the last member voted out before Jury since someone else will be coming back.

Keep in mind these house guests are leaping to these conclusions based off two things -- the vague comment Julie made and the certainty with which the J&J + R alliance is sure they are coming back.

The thing about Lawon going is, is that his going, if he indeed goes inadvertently helped Dani more than Kalia. I think Porsche is more in Dani's pocket than Kalia's and Lawon would be more in Kalia's. I think if Kalia goes through with it just so she can avoid making Dani angry, she is an idiot, and is still doing Dani's dirty work for her.

The only way for Lawon to redeem himself from this foolishness is to actually beat whoever the convicted house guest is, in the competition to get back in the house.

This fool is actually volunteering to go on the block so his allies don't have to worry about Rachel coming back with a vengeance. Because he wouldn't be mad if he comes back into the game.

What?

Is this guy mental?

If production has anything to do about it, Dom isn't going home this week. All that will be left is Daniele, Shelly, Adam, Kalia, Lawon and Porsche -- none of whom have a kill instinct, EXCEPT Danielle. All the others just wanna lay low, kiss veteran booty and slide all the way to jury or the end. Producers want to avoid the snooze fest which was the Brigade last season.

So I think Dominic wont be going home. Or he'll be coming back.

I have never really warmed to Cassie. She's a pretty girl .. but seems rotten inside. I think maybe she's been damaged in the past by women who are threatened by her beauty, or her "brains" or what have you, and has built up an inherent distrust of them. Be that as it may, I sense a lot of cattiness in her, and have always disliked the "guys girl" type of girl who complains other girls hate them cause they're pretty. No, maybe they hate you chick cause you walk around like you're better than they are, because YOU think you are prettier than them.

I am overweight, and to the world Cassie would be considered prettier than me, but you know what? I really could care less. My family and friends adore me, my boyfriend thinks I'm hot and sexy .. and I like who I am as a person. I don't walk around thinking to myself all the time "wow, so and so must just be jealous of me if they don't like me.."

The idea that you could only ever be disliked because you look better than someone else is the worst kind of arrogance in my opinion.

I am glad to see her go, for the moment. I suspect she will come back sometime this season though, because BB producers do love themselves a cat fight. The only way it wouldn't happen, is if Jeff or Jordon got voted out first, than I see them returning instead.

Regardless of the reason Dick left the house, I hope he starts taking better care of himself. He looks visibly aged from his season, and not in a good way. I realize we all get older and none of us lives forever but he just looks physically like he's not feeling the best these days.

With Keith .. he was a bigger threat because while both Porsche and Keith acted like fools, Keith did so in a much bigger way. He never stopped running his mouth. He had proven already he was willing to throw any and anyone under the bus and thus he couldn't be trusted at all. He also was extremely ripped, I never saw it personally but from what the house guests said of him he was being called "Mister Bo Flex" etc around the house because of how insanely ripped he was in his body. While it's true that Porsche held on longest on the banana, early on many people try to throw comps because they don't want to be HOH first, and also many of the comps require a diff kind of strength than holding on to a banana, some require more raw physical strength.

Jordan herself thinks it's because Cassi is pretty. it's a common trend with Rachel. Do I need to remind you of the SAME THING last season with Monet and Kristen? It may or may not be because they are pretty, but Rachel SURE IS an attention whore and gets spiteful when other people are getting attention.

Why did Rachel need to come in the room and address the newbies? For what reasons exactly? SHE GOT WHAT SHE WANTED. SHE GOT TWO OF THE NEWBIES TO VOTE AGAINST THEIR OWN at that point she had the votes in her favor, plus one of her own won HOH, so she was safe. She what reason did she have to go and try to call the newbies out? To start DRAMA. Nothing else. She's so catty. At that point she should've left them alone and let them self-destruct. What was Cassi supposed to do, let her sit there and talk shit and gloat around and prance because she got her way. I would've stood up to Rachel too point blank.

That's the ONLY reason why Porsche gets along well with Rachel. Because she's her little lap dog and kisses Rachel's ass. Dani knows how to play off Rachel's personality too so that's why they get along great. But if they dont' kiss Rachel's ass and do what she wants then Rachel won't like them and she'll target them.

I don't see Cassi as being jealous of Rachel, well maybe she is. I see her as talking bad about Rachel because Rachel does the SAME thing. Whatever the reasons are, she does it. She had no reason to try and call out Cassi because Cassi wanted Porsche out. Let Porsche handle herself.

She speaks her mind alright, and that's exactly what's gunna prevent her from winning. Rachel being portrayed as the villian is her fault. She wouldn't be portrayed that way if she didn't give the producers footage to make her seem that way. She should've thought about that.

Anyway the only thing I like about Rachel is her competitiveness. But the cattiness, and petty side can go. Sucks that Cassi is leaving, because she is probably the only one along with Dominic that would stick up to the vets.

I appreciate your point of view but I respectfully agree to disagree. Rachel didn't make Cassie catty, she's always been catty she just hid it under a veneer of southern belle charm. Now that she's a target, the claws have come out. I've rarely heard Rachel say a peep about anyone this season actually, I think people are just jumping on her because of her performance last season. If people didn't have that to base their arguments on, they would fall flat. I for one, think Rachel has done a lot of growing up over the past year. Has she changed completely? No, not really. But she has changed. Jordon is only parroting what CASSIE herself told Jordon. Jordon just choose to agree with her, either because she's easily swayed by what people says, or because she herself saw last season, or because well -- Rachel can get a bit too big for her britches sometimes. I'm not saying Rachel is perfect, but my point was and is that the only reason she is targeting Cassie is not just because Cassie is pretty.

There is a logical game reason for her to be targeting her, and it's just annoying to me that Jeff and Jordon are seen as saints and Rachel a villain -- when it was ALL of their plan to evict her.

Rachel is far from the only person in Big Brother history to ever address the newbies.. and in Rachel's mind it was half gloating half sticking up for Porsche. Not even two nights before that when her and Brenden were arguing Rachel said very clearly "BUT I LIKE PORCHE" .. I do genuinely think that she does like her and feels bad that everyone picks on her/doesn't like her. Whether that's cause she's a lap dog to Rachel or not is kind of besides the point. And as for leaving Porsche to fight her own battles.. that's not how some people are. I know that's not how I am. Many of my friends and even some of my family has been the kind of people at times who don't stand up for themselves, and let other people treat them like dirt, and whether they need me to fight their battles for them or not -- I do. It's just who I am .. if you're my friend, I'm going to watch out for you. I think Rachel is the same way.

Do I think Rachel will ever win Big Brother? No. She's just the type of person people either love or hate, and in the big brother house, you tend to love a person like Shelly who tells you how awesome you are, and how much they love you as they hug you and kiss you good bye with shrink wrapped fake tears starting to shine in their eyes as you walk out there door.. vs the type of person like Rachel or Janelle who says "bye bye bitches, and floaters grab a life vest.."

People like that, are relegated to being liked for their competitiveness alone by most people, not for their game conduct. People like her win second place, never first. It's just how it goes.

Will I always root for her anyway? Yes, 100%. Cause she's not phoney. If people were Brenden and Rachel fans, and not Jeff or Jordon fans, they'd see J/J's actions a lot differently than they do.

I guess I just hate people who come on the show of big brother talking about how much character and honor, and goodness they have, and how they try to play the game cleanly, without lying, or belittling anyone..

It's such BS. The game of Big Brother is to lie, cheat, steal, and claw your way to the top. There is no honor in that. There is only winners and losers, or those who win by default.

All of this "Rachel is jealous .. they're targeting her for being pretty.." is such BS.

Remember last week anyone? When Jeff/Jordan Rachel/Brenden wanted to strike a deal with Cassie and Shelly to be part of their alliance .. and Cassie basically said "I know I'm going to be the low man on the totem pull in that kind of deal .. so I have concerns..."

Remember again when the vets ALL agreed (not just Rachel) that Cassie and Dominic were CLEARLY working together because they both came up to the HOH and were BOTH saying the same thing in the exact same way (that the vets were their targets in so many words).

THEY ALL DECIDED to split up Dominic and Cassie. They decided to gun for Dominic first and he represented a stronger physical threat to them, they felt in competitions.

Then Cassie had a skirmish with Porsche (someone the vets had decided to keep as a side member of their alliance).

Then Cassie was being anti-social and refusing to take group pictures in the HOH.

Then when Rachel addressed the entire group of the non vets (ill advised, but she was not just targeting Cassie), CASSIE jumped in the frey with Rachel deciding to be the spokes person for her "side". (OTHERWISE KNOWN AS MAKING HERSELF A TARGET)

Sure Rachel didn't need to feel the need to stick it to the other side .. but Rachel is Rachel and she gloats sometimes when she shouldn't. But since they vets had a solid alliance, the behavior of the newbies was ill-advised. When you're in the big brother house, you kiss the ring of the "pope" when really you'd like to slit his throat. It's what you do. It's the way of things, Cassie wasn't playing along.

For ALL of these reasons she needs to get out the door. And it irks me to no end that the Vets are blaming all of this on Rachel as if THEY had no hand in this decision when they clearly DID.

It drives me nuts as a Rachel fan listening to everyone saying "she's only targeting the girls" as if there was no strategic reason behind it as well. I'm not saying that Rachel has never had a self conscious or insecure thought about Cassie, cause I'm not in her head and I don't know what she thinks, but it isn't the only reason .. in fact I would guess it's not even a pretty big reason.

And from what I have read .. Cassie IS jealous of Rachel. She has made comments several times about how she can't believe Brenden is with Rachel .. and how SHE (Cassie) doesn't even have a boyfriend..

So there you go for that one. I would hazard a guess they are BOTH jealous of each other.

I love Rachel, and I always will because at least she speaks her mind. Even if god help her, it gets her in trouble. I am sick of people vilifying her, where there is no villain. I just know that's how it's going to be shown on CBS and it annoys me. Jeff and Jordan - Jeff in specific wanted Shelly and Cassie on their side. Because Cassie and Shelly both had the stars in their eyes view of them. When Cassie said what she said to prove she was with Dominic .. Jeff was upset they couldn't pick her up for their side, because it would of been a partnership which would of benefited them and not the other members of their alliance.. but them alone -- because clearly it's better for Danielle if Dominic stays.. and clearly Porsche is more likely to align with Brenchel/Danielle because Porsche worshiped Evil Dick and Rachel.

Rachel was so upset Cassie was spending all that time with Jordon, not because she doesn't want Jordon to have any friends, but because Jordon has a soft heart, and Rachel knew that Cassie was going to try to turn her against the rest of her alliance. That being said it's human nature for Dani to want Dom in her back pocket, Rachel and Bren to want Porshe in their back pocket and Jeff and Jordan to have wanted Cassie n Shelly in theirs. Just as it's human nature for all sides of this alliance to not want the others to have this back pocket person. It's selfish .. on each person's side.

I just don't think it's an excuse worthy of Jeff and Jordon turning on Brenden and Rachel .. they all agreed to get dom or cassie out this week. It just so happens that Dom got the POV. They shouldn't be taking it out on the rest of their alliance mates because she has to go home. I know that Rachel mouthed off about Jordon in the POV contest .. but Rachel and Brenden were trying hard for the veto .. and Rachel felt that Jeff and Jordon weren't trying as hard.. which of course is going to upset her .. because it's going to make it seem like Rachel and Brenden are the biggest targets NOT Jeff and Jordon if they have only one an HOH and Brenden and Rachel have won both a POV and an HOH. Rachel had every right to feel like she was being back stabbed. And rightly so. She already felt before the comp like Jeff and Jordon's allegiance wasn't with their alliance, it was to furthering themselves..

Oh whatever! Rachel didn't go after Cassie -- she said a comment to an entire room of people and Cassie was the one who jumped on her. And one small tense interaction is not an excuse to go on the massive rants she's had about Rachel, Porche, Kalia, Danielle, and every other girl in the house including JORDAN who has never been anything but nice to her. She has said over and over and over again how pretty she is, and this is why other girls hate her.

Maybe when she was younger girls were mean to her because she was pretty .. and she is now projecting this on every other girl she meets thereafter...

The reason they want Cassie gone this week has nothing to do with her looks, they meaning ALL OF THE VETS wanted to break Dominic and Cassie up because on the newbie side they were the ONLY super tight friendship/pair who was forming an alliance. If Shelly hadn't been in their back pocket, they would of been wanting to do it to simply break up Shelly and Cassie. So either way you look at it, Cassie is a good target.

Dominic was their preference because he poses a stronger physical threat. Now that he's got POV .. Cassie becomes a good runner up.

I think Cassi is beautiful but she has not played a smart game as of yet and may not get the chance if Dom/Adam win the POV... Plus I think she sleeps too darn much, not a fan of constantly sleeping HG's....

It's not that she sleeps a lot it's just that she's up until 3-4-5 in the morning most nights. So she winds up sleeping during the day.

Umm... did you miss where Rachel tried to call her out after Jordan won HOH? Of course she's not gunna talk good about her when Rachel tried to pick a fight with her, just because they still have the power. Plus she got arguing with Porsche last week as well I believe. What she is saying sounds petty, but those two don't like her either.

The difference is .. many of the catty comments I've heard Rachel say about Cassie were .. game related. The stuff Cassie was saying last night, was rude, and extremely personal about Rachel. Normally Rachel is the person who takes things to that personal level .. in this instance it was Cassie doing it. Her contempt and disgust of Rachel was obvious, but the things she said were uncalled for, and frankly unsportsmanlike. I realize that Rachel says and does unsportsmanlike things, but you can't go on and on about how not classy and trashy a person is, and then act trashy yourself. There is a word for that .. and it's hypocrite. Not to mention there have been a few times where I've felt like Rachel has tried to be nice to Cassie.. and Cassie has pretty much always rejected Rachel.

shes way more dangerous then Dom and I think she should go on the block with Shelly and be evicted, although the flip side of that is Shelly is pretty slick and then would be getting herself deeper in the game and unbeknownst to the vets is gonna flippity dip as soon as the golden keys are all gone, and they are on their own I say get rid of Cassi now, I think while Dom is a smart guy he is still really young and immature and that can make him quite vunerable

Dominic would be dangerous to Brendon and Rachel but with Cassie gone, I think he could flip to align with Jeff and Jordan because Jeff and Dominic seem to have bonded.

The only thing about the dick/dani saga I don't like is the fact that there is so much which comes out with them that is "real life" not big brother. They bring their real life into big brother so often .. either intentionally or unintentionally and it makes it very difficult for me to feel safe discussing things with them. Usually there is a line in my head I wont cross when it comes to the house guests -- the rules are my own -- but it's difficult for me with these folks because they keep bringing things into it.

I didn't like when Julie said the thing to Dani about "no I love you?" and then didn't really give her a chance to answer. At least Julie put to rest any thoughts I had about him coming back at all this season when she said tonight very firmly "he wont be back this season." The way she said it made it seem like he could maybe come back for an all stars if there is another one?

Anyway .. I hope whatever reason he left the show he gets sorted out. "Friend", "Emergency" or whichever aside, real life is always greater than a game, and if he needed to leave to take care of it I am glad he did so. I hope he takes the time to take care of himself, he seems to have aged quite a bit since his first BB run through.

She is being so petty and b*tchy about Rachel to Lawon & Dom in the back yard.

Her thoughts on Rachel and Porche: "They don't like me because I'm pretty and I don't care if I am pretty, or they are prettier than me or not." She's going on and on about what could Brenden see in Rachel...

She has being VERY catty towards the woman of the house this week, first Porche and now Rachel.

Note to Cassie: You lose points about how classy you think you are.. when you're trashing other woman. You are no better than anyone else.

I want him to go. It's more drama for the house for the newbies to wonder who was disloyal with the vote than for him to stay.

He keeps telling the newbie's that they should go to the vets and tell them to stop asking about their vote, because it's decided already and Keith is staying.

How dumb can this guy get? Every time I think he's been as dumb as he can get.. he gets worse.

The newbies don't want to go to the vets and tell them in WEEK ONE that their vote is locked in and to stop asking them about it, because nobody EVER wants to draw a line in the sand week one. Even if their are two sides, you have to leave yourself wiggle room to negotiate.

Keith seems to fail at understanding this. He made his alliance day one, and was like okay that's it for me, I never want to violate this alliance and anyone in it who does, is public enemy number one. The smarter position to him to have been in, when Porche told him that she wanted to work with Dick -- and he was working with the regulators, was to have said .. okay we'll work with dick and them -- and still maintain his status with HIS alliance. It would have allowed him to swing his vote based on who was in power.

He could have been in a great position, instead he threw members of his own alliance under the bus to each other, pissed off his partner, threw his POV competition, and is shooting whatever standing he has left with his alliance in the foot by threatening to go off, and making them all realize he has no grasp of the game or ability to be subtle at all.