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I just don't get Mark. He plays chess; why isn't he thinking ahead and finding angles to play? Just sit back and take it? I'd be planting seeds left and right while I could. I'd be the F'ing Johnny Appleseed of doubt right up till I walked out.

Paul is playing these fools like the only drum at a boy scout jamboree! If he makes it to final two he so deserves to win. I think I just threw up a little in my mouth typing that, but it's true.

Yes, and Josh was part of the plan to evict Jess if she didn't use the hex. I'm telling you, these people are delusional. Just like justifying their bullying by saying they were bullying the bullies. The only people buying that were themselves and, well I won't go there...

I find it funny how production always try to play it up with their editing during the shows by trying to give hope to the viewers that maybe things will get flipped and the eviction coming may be used to get out some unsuspecting player. In reality it's like when Tommy was wacked in Goodfellas... "We had a problem, we tried to do everything we could. You know what I mean, he's gone and we couldn't do nothing about it. That's it, Mark's gone, that's it."

Exactly! Just like Jess saving Cody and the mob starts boohooing about she messed up and she ruined her game. Her ass was gone if she didn't use it, that was the freaking plan. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Cody, Jess, Elena, and Mark have been doomed for weeks. It doesn't matter what they did/do, it's over. The mob tries to justify their gameplay, but they're unable to divert from the path Paul has set before them. Xmas is just as much a follower as was Alex, Jason, and Josh were with their HOHs. Paul laid it out perfectly tonight when he said he was aligned with all of the couples so whichever way it goes he is golden. Cody was the only HOH who actually tried to make an independent move. Even Jess blew her HOH.

I can only give my opinion. I think Paul is aligned with Josh because he may be the easiest to beat in F2. But he will play any angle he needs to get there. From the live feeds there seems to be a lot of talk about Xmas, Josh and Paul as final three, which makes sense. Xmas will not be able to perform in those comps so she'll be easy to beat and Josh seems to be incapable of doing anything without Paul's approval. Time will tell.

You should have created a new topic for this to be sure everyone read it.

LMAO! Ok!

Yes! A bowl for two with ice cream, peanut butter, cookie dough, and whipped cream!

True

They all sit around with their nasty feet up on the counter where they eat. Walking across that table? LOL! Whatever!

"5:01 PM BBT In the HOH Christmas is telling Kevin that Mark's biggest mistake was aligning with people who didn't have his back." Xmas is so right seeing how Cody never had his back and the rest of them do. The can slap him on the back as they send him out the door. Are they really this delusional or are they just trying to justify their actions. Kind of like saying Cody was the bully. LMAO!

He went out like a boss. None of that fake ass "love ya" crap! I wish people would let it go though because he's gone and the game has moved on.

I didn't know. Thanks.

I hear ya! I have to fast forward through most of the stuff because Paul is impossible to shut up and is always butting into any convo happening. It's actually bearable when he's sleeping or when he was chained to Xmas because he couldn't move from room to room as fast and deal out his "I know everything possible about the game because I've been here and you haven't" advice..

I read this elsewhere and thought it was an interesting idea, not that it would ever come to fruition. Why not a season where all of the Hgs are the players who were voted out first in their season. I like it.

I detest Paul. That being said, he deserves to win because the game he's played. If someone, anyone removes him from the game they will gain massive points. If it continues this way I doubt anyone, even those who don't like Paul or his game play, can say that he doesn't deserve to win. Production has played too big a part in this season, but the HGs have allowed it to go on. In Survivor and BB it seems it always comes to a point where someone realizes that it's time for a big move, a game changer if you will. I still have hope for that.

Say it ain't so!

Well I'm sorry!

I haven't watched every season so I can't judge.

I thought the same thing and fast forwarded through most of it.

Mark or Elena said it best the other day (don't remember which one it was) when they said they are the new Jody. Now Mark is alone and the new Cody. If everything goes according to Paul's plan Mark is next, then Matt. I noticed this a few weeks ago, and I'm sure others did too. Paul starts planting doubt way ahead of time. He is a genius at this and has a house full of people buying into it. Long before they got rid of Jody, Paul began working the Marlena must go angle. Then he started on the Maven must go angle. Specifically Matt. Of course now he's working on Kevin. If you notice the order now... Mark, Matt, Kevin. I'd bet Alex/Jason will become a target soon. He knows he must get rid of these people to win. Jason already told Paul he would be honored to lose to him! Josh, Xmas, or Raven would be perfect for Paul to take to a final two. Even though Paul really thinks he is unbeatable in comps (Cody proved him wrong more then once) he is setting it up to face Josh, Raven, and Xmas when it comes down to final four. Josh would probably take Paul to final two if he won. Xmas will lose because she can't compete. Raven, well she's no comp beast either. He could hands down beat any of them in final two, and rightfully so. Sorry for my rambling!

This is exactly right. That convo may start with Maven or Jason and Alex (is there a nickname for them? Jalex or Alson or something?) but I don't see any of the others starting it out of fear. I hope I'm wrong.

I think it's a little of both. No one can keep an act up for weeks on end. Your true self will show. Cody didn't seem to even want to try and play the game as far as acting fake to be sociable. You have to do that to get anywhere in the game. When he tried you could tell it was forced. You've heard the old saying about not suffering idiots? Cody has obviously taken that to heart and lives by it. That doesn't bode well for playing the game.