Denise4925

Beautiful! Found this online!

Very beautiful young woman.

I don't think I've ever hated a BB houseguest as much a I hate GinaMarie.

I have always though Candice is beautiful. And I think she is well spoken and very gracious. She got a bad draw in this game with Aaryn and GM and she didn't have the fight early on to change it. It wasn't the game it was racial and that threw her off.

Now I am amazed at how much hate and venom GM has for her. She's been gone for almost a week and GM is still bitching and moaning - calling her names - accusing her of things. I think I will definitely vote for Candice as America's favorite just because it would DESTROY GM for her to get it!!!

Oh me too. But, Howard will probably get it.

I agree, snancy. I don't think that candice was accustomed to that sort of behaviour touching her in her everyday life. I think that it absolutely floored her.

Seems like you finally understand.

Yes Candice will be getting my two-cents worth as well. It will be quite enjoyable to see her win and to see the

unemployed racists in the house witness that.

I'm just waiting for the finale so that Aryan Nation and Vginamarie will hear their fate after BB House.

The trashy racist whites gave Candice an attitude early in the game, unfortunately their weren't any women from her own culture who she could bond with.

Why would Candice be jealous of genetic-recessive traits like bleached-blonde-hair and blue eyes? A former beauty Queen with a college degree and beautiful brown skin wouldn't be jealous of a low IQ bigot.

Yeah due to unfortunate circumstances Howard and Candice were forced to bond together due to Howard wanting to protect his sister from further attacks, before the bed incident they were merely associates......I doubt Howard had eyes for the carcassasians even though they frequently mentioned his Black penis and let in his arms.

When Howard was talking about fighting dogs he was referencing the civil-rights struggle and how his grandmother told him how whites used to use German Shepard dogs to fight the civil rights marchers and viciously bite them. Some fought back and some were mauled.

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Applause Denise. I just read it to my co-workers. You ROCK!!

Thank you.

I detest ginamarie but candice shouldn't have brought it to that because it made her look bad to me, too. I wish she had gone out with her head high and no drama. Too late for that, kiddo.

How could Candice, who has been constantly berated and harassed, outcast and denigrated by a bunch of racists look bad to you in comparison? She's been quiet about a lot of things for weeks and now it was her turn to be able to say what she wanted on her way out of the house, what is wrong with that? It's been done by many evictees from BB and on every single occasion, they were given that opportunity without being yelled down and interrupted. What did she care, she was leaving. Ginamarie is an embarrassment as a human being.

"grab your rebel flag, black people on the block!"

that comment?

so she's a racist because she called the people who have made racial comments, racist?

and what is the one reason someone would excuse her?

Did I miss it or did he just leave Jesse hanging there without a hug?

Denise, great post!

I really appreciate your insight on this issue, and especially appreciate your last sentence: " It constantly amazes me how readily people give their opinion about the feelings of people in certain positions in life that they themselves have never experienced and never will."

Thanks

I'd like to see GM put up as a replacement, voted out, and then told that she won't be going to jury house because she made comments which could be construed as a threat against a member of the jury. And then it would be awesome if they could have a goodbye message from Candice to GM telling her she's lucky that she lives with her mommy because her employer axed her.

Hey, it's just a dream of mine.

We obviously have different view points, I don't feel that Candice was isolated due to her race, but then again when I see a group of people I don't separate the races and count how many of each there is. I think her personality didn't click with enough people or vice versa. Of course if she was with a different cast she could have went further, but that can be said about any houseguest past or present. Part of Big Brother is adapting, which she wasn't able to do, which is why she is sitting in the jury now.

Now, if she was with people just like her as you state, I'm not sure why she would necessarily thrive and survive or stand out over people from "her own culture". She may have been intelligent in figuring things out, but she was a complete failure when it came to using that intelligence to get people to see the big picture.

No disrespect, but it's easy when you're white and not a bigot to not separate the races, especially when you're in the majority. When I went to a predominately black school, I felt the same as you, but the minority of whites, Hispanics and Asians didn't feel that way. Now if those people in the BB house were like you, it would have been easier to forget that you're of a different race when you're treated with the same respect as everyone else, but when you're not and you constantly see and hear racial stereotypes and derogatory statements about your race, than it's not easy to have a pleasant personality to get along with everyone. You're stressed and angry because this person is cutting you to the core and it hurts because you can't help what color your skin is or what culture you're from. It's not about her personality clicking, it was about her being cast out because some people were racists and some people were playing the game hardcore and didn't care what she was going through, i.e. Helen.

They never said anything to Helen's face about her ethnicity. They never said anything to Andy's face about his sexuality to make him feel uncomfortable. They never said anything at all about or to Amanda's face about her being a Jew. But, the racists in the house did do and say things to Candice' face about her race.

It's easy to say, when you've never worn the brown skin of a black person, that we should be able to adapt. What do you think we've been doing for the last 400 years? She had no support from the cast members in the house to back her up on the racial issue, except Elissa and then she was bullied by Helen and Amanda to back down because of the game.

If she was in a more diverse cast and there were more blacks in the house, she probably could have survived longer because she would have had the support to fight against the racism in the house and be able to play the game on an even field of play, but when you're alone, you're an outcast and no matter what you say or do, you're going to fail. That's why you have to be able to look at things from all perspectives and not run to the defense of "she just didn't have the game or personality to play better because I don't see race". There are other factors at play involved. It constantly amazes me how readily people give their opinion about the feelings of people in certain positions in life that they themselves have never experienced and never will.

I agree. GM should at least have given Candice that respect. But what else can you expect from a hood rat.

I heard that!

I agree. And the fact that she was the prettiest girl in the house, and a Miss Pagent queen to booth with all those young insecure women... Sheesh! Anyways, she will come out the better for it in the long run. While the rest like Aaryn, GM and Amanda will never live down their shameful behaviour

At least she did not lose her job and is being shamed on every internet and television sight. Both Howard and Candice still have their integrity and self respect outside the house. Can't say the same for those two hood rats that were fired and then the other one Amanda with pics of her with all her boobies outside floating on the internet that will never go away.

Also her walking around in those nasty panties with her flat sagging butt hanging out. How embarrassing.

Candice should have been allowed to say what she wanted without Gina Marie opening her big fat mouth. I doubt it would have escalated to what it was if she had kept her mouth shut and let Candice say what she wanted and then walk out the door.

Exactly. No one has ever done what Vagina Marie did last night. No one.

Who's the resident racist going to taunt and hate on after Candice leaves? Oh that's right, Jesse is still there.

Well you know Helen will give Candice a mushy sweet good-bye. Just in case.

No, it will be Helen's usual message..."I'm sorry, but I was very instrumental in you leaving the house the week."

Does Candice KNOW that she is probably going home this week? Because she seems really laid back. I know there are a few days until Thursday, but she HAS to socialize with the other HG's if she expects to have any chance of staying.....c'mon get outta that bed!

She doesn't have any chance of staying. The HG's are stupid keeping Amanda and they don't know it yet.

Even though I do not like either one,Aaryn off the block would almost certainly vote out Candace.So she needs to be where she can't vote.

That's true. I didn't think about that. But of course, Aryan will be put on the block this week. Too many people hate her and don't follow the feeds or the game to turn on Amanda.

What really could she do?5 guys had formed an alliance pretty much soon after they crossed the door.3 of the girls are racists(GM,Aaryn,and Amanda) who wanted absolutely nothing to do with her,and of the remaining 4,Kaitlin associated with the mean girls, Jessie and Helen pretend to like her, but stabbed her in the back every chance they got(and still do)leaving her hopes pretty much on Elisa, who I believe likes Candace, but has so far submitted to Helens wishes.Really,what was she supposed to do?

Great analysis.

Aaryn us delysional and Helen is driving me bananas using her Mommy voice to counsel everyone, but Amanda's gotta go up. Sure she won't go....but the wakeup call will be fun to watch this week.

LOL it's going to drive her crazy trying to figure out who the MVP is, but of course she will blame it on Candice.

Right, hot Christian love meant they could go to Bible study together.

Actually I meant that him being a Christian is why he tells everyone he loves them, regardless of how they've treated him. Turn the other cheek kind of thing. I doubt he's attracted to that man looking skank Amanda who's been messing with McStinky, when Candice is much better looking with a better body. It's hard for me to believe that he means anything sexual toward that.

I just voted and used all my ten on Amanda after reading you guy's opinion. I couldn't make up my mind between Amanda and Aryan Nation. I decided after her reveal that she made up that horrible lie on Howard and then lied to Candice about it, she deserved my vote this week. But it would be sweet for Aryan to go up with her best friend as HOH.

My initial response to that is to ask why howard would tell amanda that he loves her and thinks that she is hot outside the house? WHAT? WTH is his problem?

Was that howard's tactic of trying to save himself? I am speechless. Really.

I don't think he meant it in a sexual way. I think it was expressed as Christian love. Being "hot" outside the house could mean that she's fun to be with? IDK

HE DIDN'T SAY IT BECAUSE BB KEEPS TURNING OFF THE FEEDS WHEN MENTION! WHY BECAUSE BB CAN BE SUED DEFAMATION OF CHARACTER! There is no proof of him saying this!! Ugh that lying bit**

But since Amanda said it! It has to be true right Helen? SHEHAGS ARE AT IT AGAIN!

No, BB can't be sued for defamation of character for any accusations made by house members. So, I don't know why they keep turning off the feeds unless they want to put it on the show in order to get the live feeders to watch the show, which is something they do all of the time. But, personally Howie's character does not lend itself to saying something like that. I don't know him personally, but his behavior inside the house does not lend credit to Amanda's accusation about him. Amanda is a liar and her goal to get Howie out of the house for whatever reason makes me believe that she invented this lie because maybe she misheard what he said and took it to another level and it helped in getting him out of the house. Especially with the racial bias she has apparently for black people. She's playing on the stereotype that all black men secretly want to f*** all white women. She's a very insecure person, as exhibited by her crying fit when Elissa talked about her in that black bathing suit. She also said that to hurt Candice for whatever reason. She didn't have to tell her that, but maybe she thought it would make Candice hate him and forget that Amanda had a hand in getting him out of the house. IDK. But, until Howard has a chance to defend himself, I'm not going to believe Amanda.

Monk I will happily respond to u tomorrow when I have time to give ur comments my full attention. So stay tuned. Have a nice evening.

Aryans fan base known as the Aryan-Nation are the best apologists online, they were on Twitter saying that Aryan calling Candace "Aunt Jemima" was the same exact thing as if Candace called her a Barbie Doll.....I laughed untill my sides hurt.

They may have gave Aunt Jemima a makeover and removed the handkerchief off her head but the Mammy/Maid caricature that she represents is not forgotten...takes you back to antebellum when subservient Uncle Bens and Aunt Jemima's would serve pancakes and rice to blonde-haired spoiled little daughters of the slave-owners on the slave-plantations.....or the Maids made so popular in the movie "The Help".

I've heard people rallying to have Aryan evicted and people blaming Howard and Candace for not campaigning harder to have her ousted but the truth of the matter is that Amanda and GM are just as guilty and just as complicit in the behavior as Aryan is....but what can you do when you are clearly outnumbered?

I wonder what will happen if Elissa wins HOH, very intriguing.

Yeah, it's no different here it seems with some. But, I've blocked them. Anyway, all of them in that house that have made excuses for that racist's comments and made similar racist comments are just as bad as her and one day, Karma will visit and it won't be nice.

Marty ALSO has a right to post what she wants to post and she posted that she would rather this forum stick to BB and remain a political free zone. I agree with her.

I'd hate to see this place devolve into a nasty hellhole like so many other web forums have. Please, let's stop this garbage before two self-righteous sides form up and turn this place into an ugly mud-pit.

Monk

Yes, so let's just censor everyone so that everyone is comfortable. I think the fact that BB is displaying the ugliness going on inside that house, provides an opportunity for open dialogue. But, too many people don't feel comfortable talking about it, so it gets ugly because people get bullied, censored, ignored, invalidated or called a racist themselves for merely calling it out and making comments about it. It doesn't have to devolve into a ugly mud-pit. All of us can discuss and ask questions about racial things that come up in the house and be civil. Or just let people vent about it without trying to control everyone and be the speech police.

I've resigned myself to the fact that Howard is going home, and it's ok. He's going to be fine. I think it's going to start to get very entertaining now that the HGs get picked off one by one, each of them flabbergasted that they've been lied to by the rest. Maybe, if they have any brains, they'll come to the realization that they've been "played".

I just hope Candice or Elissa wins HOH.

That's how most are treated when they are 9n the block and on their way out. This is nothing new.. why associate with someone leaving and not going to jury and risk a target on your back. It's a game.. you are there for the money not to win the nicest person on bb award

Really, is that how they treated David, Nick, Jeremy and Kaitlen?

Maybe you should concentrate on making comments about the actual show instead of random posts directed at other posters with zero content related to Big Brother.

OMG thank you for saying that.