OMFG!! For as long as I have been here we have bashed HGs!! It's our way of armchair quarterbacking BB!! Just look back in the archives, there have always been a handfull of HGs they we loved picking on. I have to admit, Elissa if NOT one of my faves and does have a duckface!! Monk, sorry man, deal with it!! That one reason I really love reading this forum, the users aren't afraid to pick apart HGs!!! If I have offended anyone, sorry... Just speaking my mind!! PS, Hey Marty... Should we start shooting little duckies over the back fence?