morty Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 Please post ONLY Live Feed, televised show, and Big Brother After Dark observations here ! If you are adding personal comments, please keep them to a minimum and use brackets [personal comment]around the text. Remember your time zones. Big Brother USA Time is Pacific Coast Daylight Saving Time (See Map Here). Please be careful in identifying who is speaking, and do not use confusing abbreviations. We may have several HGs with names which start with the same letter. To better help you identify the HGs, we made this guide you can print out and refer to until you get to know who's who. http://www.mortystv.com/images/bb17/bb17castquide.pdf Try to be consistent with abbreviations, like: Activities of Daily Living = ADLs Battle of the Block = BotB Back Yard = BY Bedroom = BR Cabana Room Lounge = CRL Comic Book/Colorful Room = CBR Da'Vonne = da Dining Table = DT Have-Not Room = HNR Head of House Room = HOHR Kitchen = KT Indoor Lock Down = ILD Living Room = LR Ocean / Grey Bedroom = OBR Outdoor Lock Down = OLD Storage Room = SR Washroom Area = WA Water Closet = WC Please post pictures in the open thread: http://www.tvfanforums.net/index.php?/topic/100939-big-brother-17-pictures-and-screen-caps/ If you post questions or start conversations with each other here, they will be deleted. Thank you!
cassondra0222 Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 9:00 PM BBT Live feeds are back with Vanessa eating dinner at the glass table. Liz says, "Damn they are talking loud through that door, I hear beef cakes by that door." Liz is excited to play Sling Band. Liz is making herself something to eat. 9:02 PM BBT Steve is chomping on some potato chips. Liz is mixing a salad together to go with her dinner. Steve is playing with the Jenga blocks & other blocks at the DT. He gets up to look for the head bands to use for Sling Band. 9:04 PM BBT Liz sits down at the DT to eat her salad. She seems to be enjoying it. Liz is looking for the platter. She says, it was probably moved during the nomination ceremony. 9:07 PM BBT Liz asks Steve is they are amending the rules any for Sling band, as she scarfs her food down, chomping & smacking her lips with each & every bite. Steve is setting up for Sling Band. The Veto is hanging to the right of the Memory Wall. 9:09 PM BBT Steve isn't opposed to change the rules somewhat for Sling Band. Vanessa says, the ants have cleared up a lot. Liz thinks they had their final mating season. John comes out of the CBR to look at the set-up for Sling Band. 9:10 PM BBT Steve talks in circles to Vanessa when she says, she flossed. John & Vanessa don't understand what he's talking about. John practices for Sling Band, as Steve is chomping down more potato chips. 9:12 PM BBT Liz takes a couple practice shots with the Sling Bands. Steve is looking for the cereal bag they use for score keeping. Liz gives it to Steve. Steve says, the table is so tiny. Liz says, "God damn they're loud, they're having a good ole time out there." (Referring to the beef cakes in the BY.) 9:13 PM BBT Steve says, he should have had a good dinner tonight, but he hasn't yet. He wants some plain eggs. Liz asks if anyone wants some gluten-free cookies? No one wants any. Liz says, "Austin made me this way, he made me cozy treats." Steve starts to make his eggs. Liz wants to finish her salad. Vanessa says, she's going to lay down & be ant-social until they play. 9:15 PM BBT Liz tries to do an Irish Spring commercial for Sling Band. Steve grabs her & Liz is trying to bite him. They are by the sliding back door. The DT is now smaller with 2 light blue & 2 orange chairs left. Liz & Steve both sit down at the DT. Steve remembers he was starting to make his eggs. He gets up to finish that, while Liz eats her salad.
cassondra0222 Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 9:18 PM BBT John is standing by the counter near the back sliding doors. Vanessa is napping in the CBR, with her brown beanie pulled down over her face. John says, he wants to take some practice shots for Sling Band. Liz says, very sneaky. 9:20 PM BBT Steve uses the last of the dish soap at the sink in the KT. He says, "O.K., this soap is done." John starts to practice taking some Sling Band shots. 9:21 PM BBT Liz does a commercial for Steve playing with Lincoln Logs. He says, no, he like K'Nex. John almost makes the Glory Hole. Steve says, the Glory Hole didn't get any action this summer. Liz says, playing the last game of Pot Ball was everything. Steve says, he thinks the table is everything. He says, it was too big for Reflections. Liz tells him he called it, that it would shrink again. 9:24 PM BBT Steve explains the score to John. He tells him there is a 25 point plate, unlike in Pot Ball. Liz is scraping out the dishes in the sink. Liz takes some practice shots for Sling Band.
BBLurkerPlus Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 9:30PM BBT Discussion about how things will go, interrupted by FoTH a few times. Vanessa has PoV. Liz will be replacement nom, then Vanessa chooses final 3. Not looking good for Jmac.
cassondra0222 Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 9:27 PM BBT Steve wants to start Sling Band. Liz says, Vanessa just went in the DR. Steve says, he didn't even hear her called. Steve & John both say that Vanessa can catch up. Liz says, they are individuals. Liz says, they may get interrupted. Steve says, if they don't start now, they probably won't get to play. 9:28 PM BBT Vanessa goes in the KT to talk to Steve about what she has to say. Vanessa & Johnny Mac were put on the block. Vanessa won the Veto Comp. We see reels a couple of times. Vanessa says, that Steve will have to put Liz up. Then she asks if she just makes her vote to evict there? They think so.
cassondra0222 Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 9:30 PM BBT The four remaining HG's begin their game of Sling Band. 9:35 PM BBT Sling band is still being played in the BB house 9:38 PM BBT Liz makes soo much noise as they are playing tonight. She uses the "As expected," saying that Austin always said. 9:41 PM BBT Steve is giving the points break down after each turn is taken. Liz says, she's rotten tonight, & she's like the old Vanessa. 9:43 PM BBT Liz complains that she is doing soo bad tonight. Vanessa tells her, it's o.k. She can still be a cool person & suck at Sling Band. 9:44 PM BBT Steve thinks he's slacking at his score keeping job. Steve, Johnny Mac & Vanessa are all tied for 1st place at the moment. Steve is behind them. 9:45 PM BBT Liz & Vanessa talk about who will be in California from their family. Liz asks if they fly the families out? Vanessa says, she's not sure. She says, sometimes they do. The Sling Band game continues. 9:47 PM BBT The order of the HG's is now, Steve, Johnny Mac, Vanessa & then Liz in last place. It is changes each round.
cassondra0222 Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 9:51 PM BBT Steve has a really good turn in Sling Band. He scored 40 points. Vanessa has been doing really well tonight. Johnny Mac is doing pretty good. Liz isn't doing so well tonight. She says, "I'm having the Vanessa Syndrome hard right now." She talks in Spanish, & says, "I hate Sling Band & I'm done. She says, "I'll eat my chocolate & that's it." 9:54 PM BBT Vanessa tries to give Liz some advice to help her do better. 9:55 PM BBT Liz gets called to the DR. She goes to the WA. Steve takes his last turn for Sling Band. Vanessa says, she won. Steve says, they still have to do the Glory Hole round. Steve says, it's symbolic. Vanessa says, it doesn't work for Sling Band. Liz walks past the front door. 9:57 PM BBT They decide not to play the Glory Hole round. Steve, Vanessa & Johnny Mac all say they are really tired. Vanessa wonders why. Steve says, he did a lot of scampering today. 9:58 PM BBT Vanessa asks Johnny Mac about his leg exercises that Austin taught him. Johnny Mac says, he did them before they watched Life in Pieces.
cassondra0222 Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 9:59 PM BBT Steve talks about hitting on lesbian's because they know he's not really hitting on them, & it's safe. John & Vanessa tell him he needs to hit on straight women like that. Vanessa talks about how far they've come in the game. Steve says, he's dun (how he spells it.) Vanessa tells him he's not done & calls him a Super Fan. 10:01 PM BBT Vanessa asks Steve if he is going to clean up his bowl? Steve says, no. Vanessa tells him that she's already cleaned up so much of his stuff. Steve asks where his lemonade container is? Vanessa tells him, it's in the trash if he wants it. Steve tells Vanessa, her mom's in the trash if she wants her. He says, no she's not, she's a nice lady. John says, that escalated quickly. Steve cleans up his bowl. 10:03 PM BBT Vanessa comes out of the WC. Steve goes in the WA & washes his hands. Steve thanks her for the reality check. Vanessa tells him he doesn't need to be such a sour puss. She says, he's living his dream. Vanessa says, she's going to be a super fan after this, & she would do it again. Steve says, he won't. Vanessa talks him up, telling him how much better his life will be when he leaves. 10:04 PM BBT Steve says, no one probably ever expected him to get as far as he has. He says, now he has third place. Vanessa tells him, he ast least has third place. Steve talks about being on a TV show in a parking lot. Vanessa says, she was in a Karate uniform, running around the BY, trying to remember what day things happened on, to win a piece of medal to put around her neck. Steve says, she did it.
cassondra0222 Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 10:08 PM BBT Steve asks Vanessa if she knows what she is doing? Vanessa says, no, she's still stewing on it. She says, she waiting for them to campaign to her. Steve says, they should be doing that. Vanessa says, not as much as you would think. Steve wants to talk to Vanessa tonight. He says, he's been acting sketch. He says, she thinks he threw the HOH, but he didn't. He says, he threw Getting Loopy, & won it by accident. He says, he's telling her this as a means to rebuild trust. 10:09 PM BBT Vanessa questions how Steve could possibly put 600 something for his answer, because it was way too low. Steve tells Vanessa each of them had 55 eggs in their baskets. He says, he knew that. Vanessa says, she didn't know that. Vanessa says, he hasn't been sketch, & he's overthinking everything. 10:11 PM BBT John is laying in his bed with his head propped up & his eyes open. Vanessa tells Steve that Johnny Mac will be better to beat in the rounds for them to make final 2. She says, she thinks they can beat Liz. Vanessa says, there are arguments to be made on both sides. She says, with Liz, it's difficult. On the one hand, she just thinks they can beat her all the way around. Vanessa says, unless she gets incredibly lucky, which she has several times.
cassondra0222 Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 10:14 PM BBT Vanessa & Steve discuss the comps coming up. Vanessa says, Liz can win the endurance comps. Vanessa says, Johnny may not try so hard if they both say they are going to take him. Steve says, that's a thought. Vanessa says, he's the obvious play to take. Steve says, they have to actually take each other. Vanessa says, she gave her word on that. Vanessa tells Steve, he's dumb if he takes Liz with him, & she's dumb is she takes her with her. She says, Liz already has 2 votes guaranteed. 10:16 PM BBT Vanessa tells Steve that Liz is a sweet girl that everyone will want to win. Steve tells Vanessa, she's not sweet. Vanessa says, "No, I'm not sweet, I'm kind-hearted, but I'm not sweet." Steve tells her, she's not a teacher. Vanessa says, although she's good with kids, she's a better lawyer. Vanessa asks Steve if she should take Liz? Steve says, he doesn't know. Vanessa says, she doesn't know either. Steve says, it ensures that they take each other, & that's what he likes about it. Vanessa says, the same thing. 10:18 PM BBT Vanessa talks about incentives. Vanessa says, it's soo easy to take someone along that they can for sure win against, it's Johnny Mac. Vanessa says, Johnny Mac is friends with everyone. She says, if they don't have a shot in hell, they are going to choose either of them over her & Steve. She says, they would win over Johnny Mac before they win over Liz. Steve tells Vanessa that Johnny Mac was close to the Goblins. 10:21 PM BBT Vanessa tells Steve they are for sure going to win, they are going to make the final two. She says, "I'm the Professional Gambler." Steve says, "Professional Gambler?" Vanessa covers her tracks by saying, The Professional Gambler in her & she was for a very long time. Steve says, he doesn't believe anything until it happens. 10:22 PM BBT Vanessa goes over the comps that Johnny Mac & Liz have won. She asks who deserves to win? Steve tells Vanessa that Austin was running things for her & helping her get along, she wasn't doing it by herself. Vanessa thinks all the reasons they talk about will be why the jury would vote for her to win. Vanessa says, if she's going to get second place, she would rather get it next to Steve. She says, she doesn't think she has a chance in hell to get first place. She says, if that happens she will be shocked to holy hell. 10:25 PM BBT Vanessa tells Steve that she would be happy for him if he wins. Steve says, even $50,000 would be nice. Vanessa tells him he will do well in his life after BB. Steve says, he told the DR that he's never had to overcome anything really hard like others have in the house. He says, he's not had the same life experiences that other people have had. Vanessa tells him she has everything she needs & what she wants. 10:27 PM BBT Steve tells Vanessa that he feels close to Vanessa. Vanessa says, she's a loyalty person. Steve says, he was shocked she went back on the deal with Austin. Vanessa says, she was always going to be 3 or 4 with him & Liz. She tells Steve that they connected later in the game, but it was deeper. Vanessa says, Austin had the showmance. Vanessa says, she helped him with his issues. Steve wants to tell Vanessa everything. Vanessa says, they will talk for sure when they get out of the house. Steve asks if he's ever told her the moment? Vanessa says, no, she only has teasers. 10:28 PM BBT Vanessa tells Steve she's glad they got over their one hiccup, & were able to work together. Steve tells Vanessa that if Johnny Mac didn't win the Veto, he would have went up. Vanessa says, that wasn't going to happen, & Austin told her everything. 10:30 PM BBT Vanessa & Steve talk about everything Vanessa did to save Steve. She says, she's told him he's not leaving. Vanessa says, things were retarded. She says, she takes that back, because that's not a good word. She says, it was stupid, so that's why she took out Austin.
cassondra0222 Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 10:32 PM BBT Vanessa & Steve can't believe that no one knows they have been in the S.O.S. alliance since the beginning of the game. Vanessa says, she outed the Rockstars. Steve says, he didn't want to have a showmance. Vanessa says, Johnny Mac is good, that he makes you want to believe him. She says, he tells them things that are convincing. Vanessa says, he acts like Dr. Will. Steve says, he may not know about Dr. Will. Steve says, unless he's lying about his knowledge of the show, which is possible. Steve thinks something would have slipped by now. 10:37 PM BBT Vanessa says, she had to explain Johnny Mac how the final 4 works. She says, she just told Liz about it yesterday, & she had no idea of how it worked in the end. Steve asks Vanessa if she goes on Joker's or Hamsterwatch. Vanessa says, she did some checking on-line before they went in the house. John goes in the WA. Vanessa says, she has a website idea for when they leave the house to make money. 10:39 PM BBT Steve tells Vanessa he wants to sell Skype calls on E-Bay & donate the money. Vanessa tells him to donate a percentage, but not the whole amount. Steve tells Vanessa about his mom putting together the bags for the kids that get free & reduced lunches to go home with on the weekends. 10:39 PM BBT Vanessa asks Johnny Mac for some dental floss. She says, he's gotten her into flossing, even though she hasn't gotten cavities. Steve tells Johnny Mac that he's had 2's, 3's, & 4's. John says, that's not good. Steve says, he usually flosses 2 - 3 weeks before going to his dentist. John tells Vanessa she's a grinder & he looks at her teeth. Vanessa asks how he knew that? John says, by looking at her teeth. She says, she does grind her teeth. 10:42 PM BBT Steve gets nasty telling Vanessa that she's a grinder in a sexual way. Vanessa says, lesbians don't use that word, that's what gay men use. John tells them he still has things on his teeth from when he was younger since his teeth were crowded. Vanessa says, the flossing was good for her. Steve says, he's going to urinate. Vanessa thought he was going to floss. Steve says, he doesn't do that shit, & he goes in the WC. 10:44 PM BBT Vanessa tells John that she chews gum a lot when she's at home. John asks if she's going to start it again when she leaves? Vanessa says, yes, because it helps her not grind also. John says, he doesn't hear her at night. Liz comes out of the DR now. She tells them they will be in there a long time. She goes in the WC when Steve comes out. He washes his hands. Liz comes out of the WC & washes her hands. Johnny Mac goes in the WC. 10:46 PM BBT Liz whispers to Steve & Vanessa, "I did goodbyes." Vanessa says, "Awww." Liz tells Steve not to panic. Steve says, he did the comp, but not goodbyes. Vanessa says, she hasn't done either yet. She her make-up bag to fix her face. Steve says, they gave him moisturizer in his HOH basket. Vanessa says, "You won't be HOH tomorrow, Ha Ha." Steve talks about how little time he's been HOH. Liz says, she thinks she was actually HOH less time than him. 10:48 PM BBT Liz says, she knew they were going to ask a question about Meg in the Veto Comp. She says, she though there was going to be one about Jackie also. Vanessa says, they thought Meg was nominated 3 times, but it 4 times when she went out. Liz says, the wording was not precise. Liz plays with the ends of her hair, while she is sitting on the couch in the WA. 10:50 PM BBT Vanessa gets called to the DR. Liz says, she'll be in there a while, it will be a good hour sesh. Steve says, he's going to take a shower & attempt to go to bed. Vanessa says, he will still be awake. Steve tells Vanessa she's welcome to go upstairs when she's done. Liz asks who won Sling Band? Steve raises his hands. Liz tells him it's a struggle to go to bed with make-up on. She says, she has a lot of pimples from going to sleep with her make-up on. Steve says, she said it was from stress. 10:52 PM BBT Steve asks Liz how she is? Liz says, she's o.k. She says, she thinks she's o.k. She says, she wants to know her fate, & not walk out like Austin did. Steve says, he couldn't say anything to her about what was going on because he was on the block with Austin. Steve says, Austin went out with true BB fashion, "Expect the unexpected." Liz says, he said he knew it. Steve says, he doesn't think he did, because he didn't put on shoes like he did. 10:54 PM BBT Liz asks Steve if he thinks there's hope for her? Steve says, he doesn't know. Liz says, they didn't go there to necessarily make friends. Steve says, they have to vote against each other, so they shouldn't take it personal. Johnny Mac is laying in the CBR with his light blue bandana over his eyes, partially sitting up, with pillows behind him. 10:55 PM BBT Liz says, Austin got a sympathy vote. Steve says, you can't give a sympathy vote when there's only 3 votes. Liz says, Austin would have killed her if she didn't vote for him. Steve tells Liz to lie about how inferior she is to Julia. Liz asks Steve, "What if he cuts off the ponytail beard for me?" Steve asks her if she wants a long distance relationship. Liz says, her long distance relationship that she was in didn't work. Steve talks about a girl he knew that would have Skype sex. He says, he doesn't recommend that. Liz says, it's mainly for the guy, not the girl. She says, she wants to cuddle & kiss someone at night. 10:57 PM BBT Steve says, he never got to cuddle with Julia. Liz tells Steve to try again, get some more muscle & not be soo puny. Steve asks if Julia said that? Liz says, she's not telling him. Steve says, she just did. Liz says, he needs to gain some muscle & not die on the elliptical so quickly. Steve says, he's now met 5 previous HG's. Liz says, he's met 6. Steve says, he's met another 16, with the BB17 cast. 10:59 PM BBT Steve says, Caleb is the best thing ever. Steve & Liz go back & forth about coming back next year to host competitions. Steve says, he would host with correct grammar. Liz says, she would host with enthusiasm. Steve says, he did shitty with the Under The Rainbow comp. 11:00 PM BBT Steve tells Liz that she likes her as a friend. They both say they will be good friends outside the house. Steve says, it comes down to who takes who, & who you think you can & can't beat. Steve says, & who you think has played a good game. Steve says, it's up to Vanessa. Liz asks why Steve, because he's in final 3. Steve says, in final 3, that's what happens. 11:02 PM BBT Steve & Liz talk about final 2 deals from last year. Liz says, Victoria was not pretty. She says, she looks like Jackie with caked on make-up. Steve says, girls wear too much make-up. Liz says, she agrees. Steve tells her she can't even go in the DR without make-up. Liz says, "Hell no." She says, she doesn't wear too much make-up in real life. Steve asks Liz what she wants to do out of the house? Liz says, she has a business degree. She wants to open an on-line store with beach accessories & bathing suits that they get from China. She thinks she'll have a good Social Media following now. 11:05 PM BBT Steve & Liz both shout of to Jace on Twitter. Liz wants to get signed with an agency to do modeling. She tells Steve she's done it before with Julia. She says, models are sick skinny. She says, she wants to do commercials or print modeling. She says, "We'll see." Steve asks, "What about Finale night with Austin?" Steve says, she is blushing. Liz asks, "What makes him think he'll get that lucky?"
Kekila Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 #BB17 11:01PM BBT Steve and Liz talk about how it would be so cool if they got to come back and host next year. They are arguing over who would be the better host. 11:04PM BBT Steve and Liz discuss Victoria from last year. Steve says Victoria was very pretty. Liz says no she wasn't and that she wore too much make up. Steve then asks her what she wants from this. Liz says if she wins money then she wants to open up a business with Julia. She wants to do an online store of beach accessories and bathing suits. She says now with social media she can get the name out there really easily. 11:10PM BBT Steve and Liz continue to talk about being recognized from the show. Steve says that he got a loud cheer when he won HOH this time. Liz asking if the eviction tomorrow night will be live. Steve says he isn't sure. He says tomorrow is the last veto meeting. 11:15PM BBT Liz getting her evening ADLs done. Steve in HOH listening to music and snacking. 11:17PM BBT Liz heads to bed. Steve is dancing around in HOH listening to his music so loud you can hear it through his mic.
Kekila Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 11:19PM BBT Steve now talking out loud. Says that he fears Vanessa will undercut him and take John. He says why wouldn't she. 11:25PM BBT Steve is going over options. He says neither Liz n or Vanessa will take him. He says if John goes he has a better chance of winning. Steve wonders if he should take Liz to F2 if he gets that far.
Kekila Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 11:28PM BBT Steve says out loud that if he wins he takes Liz. he didn't think he would come off as the smart kid this season but it appears he is. 11:32PM BBT Steve continues to muse about what will happen. He says that he doesn't really have an opinion about what he wants. He feels Vanessa will be getting rid of John no matter what he has to say. 11:36PM BBT John and Liz sleeping. Steve is in the HOH shower. Vanessa is in the DR.
Kekila Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 11:43PM BBT Steve finishing up in the shower. John sits up in bed and drinks some water. 11:47PM BBT John and Liz make their way back to the KT. Liz tells him that she hopes that this can be amicable being on the block. Liz says she wants him to know that she has never said anything bad against him. John says that he knows Vanessa will do what she needs to do. They wish each other the best of luck. 11:52PM BBT Steve and John talk. Steve asks John if he knows what Van will be doing. John says he doesn't know. Steve says he is afraid to push to hard. John say snot to push it is between him and Van.11:55PM BBT Liz, Vanessa and John all head off to bed. John trying to sleep but Vanessa wants to know how close the competition was. She says was praying that she won.11:58PM BBT Vanessa tells John goodnight. That tomorrow is a big day. He says yes it is. The feeds are on HG trying to get to sleep.
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