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9 hours ago, HeleneL said:

 

Frustrating to see that she needs to speak in parables about snakes and tempters.  She knows she's going home so why not lay it all out there about her suspicions and lets see how Paul squirms and maybe the HGs will see a little light snap on in their brain.  Even if they don't really believe her it might give them food for thought and they'll start being more observant about what's going on.  They're walking around with a dunce cap on their heads and here he is going from room to room telling them what to do and letting them believe it's all their plan.  Good gosh I wish him gone soon. 

 

I agree. If she didn't let her religious zealour make her look crazy, maybe someone would listen to her. She's made herself look ridiculous. I was always nervous about her when I heard about her YouTube program. There is nothing wrong with faith, but this kind of faith is hinky & actually turns people away. And what's up with her not wanting to name names? This is her last shot. Sell people out like they've sold you. But between the snake talk and not naming names, she's made herself look crazy and delusional like she doesn't know what she's talking about.

 

Im curious to see what would happen if she won the Battle Back. 

I so hope things go sideways for him.

I dont think she let herself be bullied into her nominations. There was just only so much she could do. Since Devin went first and put up Paola and Brittney, she didn't have a lot of options on who to put up since their alliance is supersized, she only wanted to put up one girl, and no one wanted to put up Donny. She wanted to put up Paola, but Devin always said he was going to do so if he went first. She could have trusted Caleb to throw the competition for her, but that would take trusting Caleb. She never followed that line of thinking. With Devin getting the luck of the draw, she was screwed.

I dont think sophb was even saying that Caleb is going to be a rapist, murderer, etc. outside of the house. She said he might never become violent but she did compare some of his thinking and rationalizations to those of a rapist, murderer, stalker, etc. especially how the victim often is blamed for the obsessive behavior. She was also saying that we always need to be careful of blaming the victim.

I know that as a woman, I was raised to notice red flags. My mother had a family member murdered by someone that most people would have never expected. When my sister was in college, she had a classmate who just disappeared one day. We all know horror stories, sometimes I think I know more than my fair share, and while Caleb may never do any of those things, his current behavior does raise warning flags for me.

Regardless, I definitely feel he has made this game more difficult for Amber, who never seemed much of a deep thinker to me.

Misha, I don't think it was your post that made anyone hate or dislike Caleb or think anything worse about him than they already did. It rarely hurts to have someone speaking in your corner.

He may have been referring to God, but his use of the word they made me think he meant BB.

Edited to add: there is a chance I misunderstood the pronoun, but whether he thought it was BB or God, its still an example of his magical thinking.

I love this guy, even without the evil. We laughed at our house about him getting into the house on the jerk card. Anyone who hangs and loves his 10 year old brother like he does, cant be too evil. When you are that much older than your sibling, having a close relationship is a choice. He makes me laugh, which has me hoping he'll stick around. Being sexy doesn't hurt my love of watching him either.

Caleb built something up in his own mind that never existed.

He obsessed over it.

We all have hard-knocks but do not behave in a fashion that strikes others as stalkerish or odd especially since there was nothing THERE to begin with.

With the live feeds it's not speculation.

Dude is ODD.

Exactly! And it still exists in his head! Like she was flirting with him so he'd take her to the end?! Huh? If she was she did a dang poor job of it, blowing him off in week one. Caleb also doesn't seem to realize that he has yet to get anyone to the end, but of course, he isn't alone in that particular delusion. Many of the houseguests seem to be guaranteed final 2 at least in their own minds.

He also has a lot of odd magical thinking. He saw her at the airport and just knew they were destined to be in the Big Brother house together, and there they'd fall in love and maybe make babies or something. He believed BB put her in the house FOR him and him for her. Cause thats how relationships work. A show can just give you someone. And of course, she would leave the room when he entered because she didn't want the other houseguests to see this magic between them and not because she wanted to be somewhere else or because he creeped her out a bit.

That all being said, doesn't it also look like she's had a nice nose job?

The first picture looks like it was never a good shot and the second looks airbrushed so its hard for me to tell.

Point out where I was unpleasant.

Let me know when you give birth. It might change your perspective.

You implied I shouldn't breed, because I do think the chance to play BB is one I wouldnt want to miss and I don't need the money. Telling someone they shouldnt have kids is kind of rough. Personally, if you need the money, you shouldn't play. You should get a reliable job instead.

Seriously, more people visit Africa than can play BB, and you since you say that touring Africa would be a once in a lifetime opportunity, I dont know how BB wouldnt. I think the mental excercise would be interesting and I wonder what I'd learn about myself.

And although I mentioned how my perspective on motherhood was shaped by being a stepmother, I never said I havent given birth. Actually, I thought it was quite clear I have other kids, but it was the stepson, whose life I've been a part of since near the beginning that taught me lot about how even in absentee, you influence your kids lives. My perspective is just fine.

Edited to add: Of course, I do think if they cast more hard core gamers instead of the wannabes, the game would be a lot better. And of course, Elissa is bit of a wannabe, but even that doesn't make her a bad parent by default.

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To be fair, if someone in my life was going to abuse my kid, they wouldn't need 3 months to do it. There is no way to be there every moment of every day. There just isn't. You protect them as best you can and pray.... or at least thats what I do.

As far as abandonment issues go, I think there may be more to your story than just 3 months off. I spent a summer away with my relatives and it was a blast. It just depends on the kid and on the people keeping an eye on them. I know my kid, quite well, and I know my family and my spouse. Saddly, he'd still be able to have a great time without me.

I'm not saying that Elissa is a fabulous mother. I really have no way of knowing. But I do believe judging her parenting skills based on her taking 3 months off this summer isn't right.

I really didn't get E.D.'s fan base. I prefer referencing him as E.D. It makes me smile, every time.

Maybe you shouldn't breed if you are just going to be unpleasant if someone has a difference of opinion, because no kid is going to agree with everything you think. (Well, unless your into that brainwashing style of parenting, which is quite frightening.)

Personally think it would be interesting to see how far I could go in BB, but I'm a gamer. I love all types of games, board, cards, video, mmorpg. BB would be an ultimate game and it would be fun to see if I read people as well as I think I do. There are very few people who ever get to play a game on this type of scale.

So yes, I would see it as a rare oppertunity and dont think that would make me a bad mother, because I know how to give a kid focused attention and instruction in the time that I am with them. We are a strict but silly, fun household. And I have faith in the rest of the people in my life to be there when I cannot.

And while 3 months might at times feel long to a child, its still not, especially if you are using the rest of your time right.

1. Who will you vote for America's Favorite House Guest? Elissa

2. Predict something one particular hg's will do on the Wednesday/Thursday show: Andy will cry as Judd is leaving but laugh about it in DR.

3. Who do you think/want to win FINAL FOUR HOH/VETO ? I'd like Andy gone. So I hope McCrea wins HoH and anyone other than Andy gets PoV, and he gets voted out. However, I bet McCrea will win HoH to get my hopes up and then Andy wins PoV.

Back to the whole are women good mother's if they leave there kids for 3 months issue. When I was young, I might have said it would impossible for me to leave my kids for that long, but as a stepmother of 12 years to the most amazing 13 year old kid, I've learned some things. Parenting is more than smoothering your kid with time. As a parent who has to let her kid go so much of the time, I know that our influence is more about how we spend the time we have with him than how much time we have.

In the life of a child, 3 months isnt all that long, especially if you make sure there is someone there for him who he taking care of him and providing for his needs. As long as the kid know you love him and what you expect of him, you'll be amazed at how wonderful they can be without you. The hardest part sometimes is knowing how fine they are.

Besides women in the military, and a plethora of other working mothers, often leave their kids for extended periods. And while BB isnt a job, its a once in a lifetime oppertunity that I'd find very difficult to turn down as a full time mother of an 8 year old.

Saddly, hatred is contagious. If you hear enough vitriol about someone and don't have enough sense to question everything you hear, you may start believing it too.

Maybe they have become desensatized to what they are saying and don't realize how hateful they have become. I guess I'm tryin to give these guys the benefit of the doubt as they can't all be rotton to the core, or are they?

I hope so too. I like how you are still willing to give them some benefit of the doubt as it is looking worse all the time. But desensitization is real and kind of ugly.

Tbh, my opinion of Rachel often shifted. At first I liked her, then I didnt, then I did. I often pitied her treatment in the house as well. She annoyed me and made me uncomfortable but in the end I think the opinions of the house guests after they left the house and really got to know her, helped shaped my opinion on Rachel more than anything else. So I am more fond of Rachel than not.

I was expecting a similar roller coaster ride with Elissa and was grateful it never happend. I simply enjoyed her, which I found surprising. She doesn't look like someone I would, but I guess its hard not to let some of our personal bias shape our first impressions of someone.

I tend to be a near end of season poster and I wish I could go back and see my comments about Rachel, but I think I represented them accurately.

At this point, I hope McCrae wins, but only because he is the least objectionable. Once he wins, I hope he uses some of the money to set himself up with a franchise or something that will give him a steady income. Then I hope he moves on from Amanda and starts trying to get back together with his ex girlfriend who he obviously still loves.

Im sad he spent his summer with Amanda. I think I might have liked him despite his dirtiness if he played the game on his own. Unfortunately, he seems like one of those guys that dont expect women to like him so when one does, they are easily influenced.

Even McCrae seemed annoyed with Amanda much of the game, but it was too late to do anything about it without her flipping her lid. That's not to say that I didn't think he really cared about Amanda. I think he did.

She is so different from her sister. I thought she handled herself very well, considering how she was treated. I know she would "stir the pot" but I also kind of liked that about her. I'm a bit of a pot stirrer myself.

While I don't love everything about her, because none of us are perfect, she was my favorite. I miss watching her do yoga. It was a nice bit of calm in a crazy house.

I do wish she would realize how beautiful she is without the odd eyelashes, but that's not a deal breaker for me. I also wish she wouldnt wear so much makeup, but Im a hippie and mother is always wishing I'd wear some.

I kinda wish her gameplay was better, but whatever . I'm a little surprised I liked Rachel's sister as much as I did.

me too! if Fatboy would get his perverted mind out of the gutter ..he would see that Rat boy is going to win if he doesn't get him out Ratboy would get rid of him in a hearbeat..hell Andy would stab his own mom to win

But at least Andy would cry about it so you wouldn't hold it against him. Spencer really should put up Andy and get him out. Its the best time.

Well #bb15 at Twitter has gone overboard with the Elissa tweets, and everytime I read that someone is voting to give her the 25k over Howard who's unemployed or Jessie who rocked that house getting Helen and Amanda's games blown apart, I want to gag.

Why? Big Brother is not a charity. Jessie was weak in the house, and while I liked Howard, he didn't always makes sense.

Congratulations!! I'm so happy you won.

I really hope they get rid of her.