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Each season I tend to want HGs like GM to stay in the house for a long time because they naturally stir things up. They have no chance of winning, but keep things unpredictable. They tend to last longer in the game because they are not a real threat to any HG that is serious about winning.

Nick really could have gone far in BB, and I think the producers selected him for BB15 because he appeared like he might be another Dr. Will, sly enough to talk his way out of anything. If he had managed to stay in the game one more week, I think he could have gone quite far, but things turn on him too fast, and others quickly identified him as being a huge long term threat.

I've been enjoying this twist myself. It's something different for a change. It's interesting to see who's smart enough to try to figure out what America wants and play accordingly. Better than a banner plane that they're not allowed to see but a glimpse of anyway.

And I like Elissa too so that helps. I think she's a genuinely nice person.

I'd probably like the MVP twist more if it were a house full of strangers though, I think.

I like the MVP too, but it should have been done without a connection to past players (ie rachel). In the beginning I don't think Elissa got MVP for her game play, but got it because of her connection with her sister Rachel.

To give Elissa some credit, if she was on the other side (ie best friends with Aaryn and GeniaMarie), she would have lost the MPV vote to some other player. So as long as Elissa is nominating players the TV audience don't like, she will continue to get MVP.

At some point others (ie Amanda) on her side of the house will feel she has too much power, and they will try to blindside her and get her evicted. There is a very good chance Elissa will make it to the final 3-4 players in the house, unless the producers feel they need to take the MVP out of the game because it gives Elissa too much power every week.

Man, this nothing like the trash talking that goes on in gaming forums. Hell, in comparison, its like an episode of Brady Bunch where the kids get in a spat over over who hogging the bathroom.

In gaming forums, guys are calling each other "F'ing Fags" "Dip sh*ts" and far worse stuff. And if a person so much as makes a slight error in a statement, you can be sure there will be a long series of ruthless attacks and insults. Nothing is forgiven, and perfection is expected 110% of the time..... You know, like in middle school where kids perfect the art of being cruel.

I don't care that Jeremy is gone, but I wish BB would get rid of the backdoor option. Sure its great when a disliked player is evicted, but it also can be used against players the audience loves. The back door option means the player can't compete to save himself and has only 24 hours to scramble for votes.

Watching GinaMarie cry the amazon over that guy who barely told her hello on a good day makes me know why BB15 is the end of the road for me.

They always have 1-2 wackos every season because they are unpredictable and difficult for other HGs to control. They are included because they are wildcards that will destroy well made plans on all sides.

still the most worthless hg's in the game

wont be leaving

She is pretty worthless, but she sure does make me laugh with her daily melt downs over trivial stuff.

I am watching the live feeds right after the show, and she is no where to be seen. I was expecting to see her having yet another melt down, crying: "Life is not worth living any more, no more Nick, no more jeremy. everyone should self evict because the two best players are gone. Life is not fair when the loosers beat the best players. It wasn't like this in high school, don't the loosers know they aren't suppose to win, they are suppose to be loosers and let the popular people win. I demand to talk to Allison right now!!!"

On Morty's update page:

Buy a vote of 9-1 Jeremy Was Evicted

How many seconds does it take you to figure out what is wrong with sentence?

I know I am going to be laughed at but I am going to say it anyway. I didn't post about GM because I saw most folks goofing on her crying.

When she started crying, her wailing was SO deep and pained and full of grief that I got a little misty myself. Even on the replay on Sunday's episode it hit me hard. I know I'm a sap, but like I said her moans and wails were so deep and her pain so intense that I felt REALLY horrible for her.

She was crying like someone died, and that is how it felt to me at home. Like someone died. I couldn't enjoy her grief.

I know I am such a sap.

Most people could identify if she were crying over something worth crying over. For god's sake, Nick got evicted from the house, its not like he was suddenly killed or is not spending the rest of his life in jail. When she breaks down like that I simply howl at the TV like dog...lol.

And the last time I saw her on the feed, she was having yet another emotional collapse because she couldn't find Nick's cup. Damn, she's like a 2-3 year old who always thinks the world has ended over EVERYTHING, yet 10 minutes later she ls laughing her head off at the dumbest of things.... She's manic I say!

I give her a lot credit at keeping things interesting and worth watching. Who knows, maybe someone will rearrange the lawn chairs, and she'll have yet another emotional break down.

Here is GenaMarie in High School

She's got to be manic. Everytime I watch the feeds, no 2 hour period can go by where she's not laughing hysterically and then sometimes later is crying uncontrollably.Only people who are manic do that (or kids under the age of 4).

Someone need to tell her to "Simmer down now, Simmer down!"

Man, I hate her laugh. She has a "drunk" laugh. You know, loud, abnoxious, and laughs at everything, and won't stop.

"Look at my big boobs, don't you just love my boobs, I wish Nick was here so he and my boobs would have a great time.....HAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHA HAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHA HAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHA HAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHA HAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHA HAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHA HAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHA HAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHA HAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHA

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Best game so far, Helen.

Hooked an spare PC to my HDTV in my livingroom, so now I can watch the feeds anytime, its like getting BB After Dark 24x7

Forever whatever reasons, I hate watching TV\movies on my computer. I have two monitors hooked up so I can dedicated one to video, but I still don't like it. If I want to watch TV or a movie, I want to watch on my HDTV, not on my computer.

I did not hear the entire conversation, I just heard him say several times he would self-evict, agreeing with that with Amanda that Aaryn needed to stay and Howard need to go.... It was on the feeds around the time of my previous post, PST. It just seemed totally absurd to hear any HG more-or-less "I shall self-evict if my allies goes home before me". Who in the hell says something like that, unless it total BS.

He just said he would self-evict if the POV isn't used to take Aryan off the block and Howard put up as a replaced..... That surely has be total BS, or to be blunt, he's been P*ssy whipped by Amanda.

What the hell happens when people get HOH? Do all the bad things that people have done to them just disappear from their minds? Do they think the person that has been against them from the start will now magically listen to them since they are HOH? WTF Helen???

Hellen is smart, and the smart players don't seek revenge unless its to their long term advantage. The game has a long history of the dumb players taking each other out of revenge (ie evicting their showmance partner). Its like saying "I am going to make sure you loose, even if it cost me the game". That is how the bad players think\play, and they get sent at home without the 500K. Their reward is bragging rights that they evicted someone, and then followed them out the door 1-2 weeks later.... Smart players keep their eye in the 500k, and often (but not always) will set aside personal feelings that interfere with winning.

I don't want him to leave

I don't see him leaving any time soon, but I also do think he has a chance of making it to the final two. Good chance he'll be on the jury.

This along with many similar comments have been repeated 100s and 100s of times each season since season one. Its old and repetitive, it like listening to a smoker tell you every year for 15 years "I am quiting smoking, and I mean it for real, its different this time, this time I am 10,000% serious, not like in the past where I was quit for a week, and started up again!""

Love to see Aaryn and Jeremy on slop because they will bitch and moan the entire time.

Helen is smart, she'll do what is best for her game. I think she should put up those who have not been on slop yet, even if they are on her side. Its dangerous to be vindictive in BB and punish your enemies because it only motivates them more to come after you. It is smart to put them at a disadvantage.

Yes, being competitive is a key trait for all.

Its my basic speculation that when they cast the BB they have a set of core qualities that are required for all HGs, such as being sociable\talkative, not intimidated by cameras, a competitive personality (hate to loose), and some natural charisma that comes through on TV. No stammering nor look wooden when in the DR.I'm am sure there many more required qualities, I'm just naming a few that seem obvious.

.....Then among those who have the core qualities the producers look to find a select few (about 4-6) who have all the key qualities to win BB and be popular with the audience for from start to finish. Once they have got high quality players identified, the producers then look for people who will create a great deal of drama because that is what they naturally do in their daily lives going all the way back to middle school (ie Aaryn, GinaMarie). Basically the BB house is a balance between a few HG who have the right skills\abilities to win BB and those who will naturally cause a lot of drama and shoot themselves in the foot pretty much any chance they can. The drama queens are the pawns in the BB game, next to zero chance of winning.

Imagine how boring the show would be if all the HGs were highly skilled manipulators. It would be like watching a poker game on ESPN or chess. Nobody would say much of anything, wear dark sun glasses so nobody can see their eyes, and all week only talk about the weather and other trivial stuff.

Spencer's been pitching all week about getting Elissa out "next week". He did the same thing last week and he will do the same thing next week. I don't like him anymore but he's playing a shady game that makes things a little interesting (very little, but a little)

He is very calculating and appears to be he is good at creating misdirection in terms of what others think he's doing.

I am glad that he voted against Nick. Like Howard, spencer is there to win the 500K not to make friends. He is ruthless.

Absolutely, he clearly was selected for the show because of his narrow focus on winning and ability to be ruthless and calculating in selecting who to vote out.

OMG! Is she really doing all that crying over a guy who obviously could care less and she only knew him for a few weeks! Damn girl.

Probably has a history of such over-reactions to trival stuff. I can see her telling a simular story when they were interviewing her for the show: "I met a great guy at a bar just last week, we instantly fell madly in loved, went back to his placed and had sex, and he broke up with me the very next day, I'll probably never get over it....Wah Wah Wah Wah Wah, Why does this always happen to me every week since I was in the 6th grade....Wah Wah Wah". and she spends the next 10 minutes crying before they can ask her another question.

So let me see if I can get this right. From what I just read, GM is going off on everyone that voted Nick out and making a scene and expects them to feel sorry for her?

Did these people not know that they are playing a game for $500k?

This is one sad group of people. They are mad at Elissa because.......?

When people are selected for the show, most are selected for their personality flaws, not because they are best 16 players that could be found of 1000s and 1000s of people, in fact, some like GM, are selected because they have very bad BB skills, thus will be very unpredictable in how they play BB. GM will unlikely ever vote in a manner that's in her own self interest to win, she's the type that wants to have a 3 month summer party, get drunk as often as possible (and have sex)... Ever see Cheri Oteri do a bimbo cheer leader on SNL?, they look and act like twins.