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I like the twist, but think 3 things need to be fixed. 1. NO return HGs or anyone with former HG connections. 2. The MVP winner CANNOT tell the others they have MVP. 3. You can't win MVP back to back.

That almost would work, except for #2. HGs wouldn't be able keep it to themselves (obviously Elisa couldn't) Besides they might not say anything to anyone, but could give a wink and a nod to anyone they wanted to know. And some people would just give it away by being sooooo damn cocky. "Nope its not me. But you better watch your back!.... hahaha"

Overall I do not want the show to become a popualty contest where america gets put the hardcore players on the block simply because they're playing a good game that the TV audience does not like (If you don't want good hardcore players in the game, what do you want, a gentlemen's game of lawn darts to decide everything?). And people really don't understand that they are trying to get rid of players that keep the show so fun to watch. People in this thread love how it makes Amanda so paranoid and it makes for great TV, so they vote put her on the block to get rid of her so that the show just becomes more boring. Nobody can will if they are on the block every week, so it extremely unfair. At some point America just votes out the nominiated MVP HG by default.

Not a big fan of the twist - I did like the increased paranoia in the house.

I wonder how David, Nick and Jeremy feel about it? If I was one of them I would NOT be happy. Also not fair that Elissa had an army of fans voting for her - I know that only balanced out the disadvantage of being Rachel's sister - but if that was the case why even cast Rachel's sister?

Paranoina is good and fun. When it come known in the house the America decides the fait of HGs, HGs will start kissing ass and avoid conflict because they want to to win the popularity contest. They will stop playing BB, and avoid doing anything the TV audience won't like (BORING). No more fights, or far fewer. And whatever fights do happen will be tone down to the Disney rules of engagement.

HG1: you're not very nice:

HG2: I'm sorry. I will try to be nicer next time

HG1: Thanks, and I will try to nicer too.

HG3: What a nice day

HG4: Yeah, what a nice day.

HG5: Let's play chess for the next 3 hours

HG6: Yeah, that will be lots of fun.

The issue with Amanda being on the block has nothing to do with her game play. It's her actions that have made America dislike her so much. If you haven't seen her "after dark" etc, then you wouldn't understand. She has the most vile mouth on any player in BB history. She has disrespectfully used racist, homophobic and rude & ignorant remarks about every female in the house. "Joking" to kill Jessie and use her for unspeakable acts in disgusting and unacceptable. She consistently uses the "f-word" and the "c-word" when speaking of the other female HG's. This is why America voted her as third nominee two consecutive weeks, and I believe it would be three if the MVP twist was still in play.

You made my point. She being put on the block by people who have no stake in the game. The other HGs didn't put her on the block. if she is as bad as you say, why don't the other HGs put her on the block. America put her on the block because they don't like her, why won't the other HGs?

The other HGs want her in the game because because they know she a huge target, and that us part of the game. Sometimes is best to keep HUGE targets in the game. America keeps putting her up, but the HGs don't vote her out.

Other than the Ellisa getting MVP 3 times I love the twist this year. It has stirred up so much crap in a otherwise predictable game that it's fun to watch them freaking out wondering who has the MVP each week. I've never seen so much paranoia in the house in 15 seasons. So what if someone gets evicted because everybody thinks he or she is MVP, they gotta go sooner or later. Watching Amanda come ungluded trying to figure who put her up is priceless.

They can accomplish this without making the game a popularity contest with america.

Turning it into a popularity contest with the TV audience puts the good players at significant disadvantage because they are put on the block not because they are playing a bad game, they are put on the block because they are unpopular with the TV audience. Amanda does not know that what she says in the diaryroom and then shown on TV is being used against her, if she did, you bet she would play the game different.... Yeah it makes for great TV now, but get rid of the the hardcore players who are willing to make tough game decisions, who left? Do you really want to watching Andy kiss butt the entire season saying "I know what you mean....", along with other players who are boring largely because they avoid conflict and do not want to make any major decisions in the game, in other words they want float to the end and win by default.

I totally disagree that it is the worst twist in BB History.

Personally, I love it. I like the fact that I can watch the show, but also have input. This game is suppose to be about competitions and mental skill.

But this year it has turned into being a bunch of racist bullies who manipulate and bully and threaten their way into power. And I for one was glad that I was able to put up Amanda on the block time and time again. And will continue to do it if given the chance.

Hope Amanda goes home and Candice is saved and wins next HOH !

Why should there not be any outside influence. I take time to sit and watch these ding bags right? So, I'm glad I am at least getting something for my time invested in watching them. And that is helping to shape the outcome of events by putting Amanda on the block over and over again. Whhoo !!

I agree

America should vote ONLY on things that gives no single HG an advantage or disadvantaged. Let american vote on food, costumes, etc, as long as it applies to all HGs

As I stated in the first post, its ruins the game if the best players in the game are put on the block every weeks because they are unpopular with America (which is highly condensed editting). The best players always have to make tough decisions to get far in the game. Its unfair that they get penalized for making touch choices that America does not like. If they did this in previous seasons, some the best players would never have won because America would have put them on the block every week until they were evicted, and it impossible to win if the best players are always on the block every single week simply because America does not like them.

If Amanda is hated by the other HGs, let them put her on the block and evict her. if she can kept her self off the block, that means she playing a good game in the house. America should not be putting her or other good players on the block. BB is not a POPULARITY CONTEST, it would be ZORING if all the good players went home the first 4-6 weeks, and the remaining HGs were completely open & honest with each other having group hugs 3 times a day, along with bible meetings pledging never to lie to each other, and decide who ever wins will divide the 500,000 among all the HGs equally.... This is a social game, and the winner is the HG who plays the best social game (along with some mental\physical skills), its not about winning a popular contest with America.

Hell why not just let America decide everything such as:

Who gets to be HoH

Who gets put on the block

Who gets PoV

Who gets evicted.

With America's vote it does not matter who's the best player in the game, because America has veto power to put the best players on the block every week because often the best players are not most popular players. The best players tend to be ruthless and lie to get far in the game, The best players back stab people, they make the game fun to watch. America wants to get rid of these types of players ASAP because they are ruthless and backstabbers.... If America had its way, all the best players would go home first, and we'd watch a extremely boring 2 months of nothing happening but HGs crying as America votes out their best friends.

The whole America's vote SUCKS!

I don't cared if people hate her love her, I personally think it SUCKS that America can put anyone on the block, and then compound it by allowing America put up the same HG week after week after week. Amanda is playing the best game possible with other HGs and THEY aren't putting her on the block, America is. How is in hell is sure suppose to defend against that if it happens every GD week?

I am getting a kick out of Andy just putting his behind wherever the best converstaion is and getting away with it.

He has managed to insinuate himself everywhere, without ever even being considered for the block and I have to give it to him that he must have some skills.

This is true, and he is the biggest brown noser that has ever played BB. Maybe he is playing a good game by staying off people's radar, but he makes me want to barf. He "Totatly" agrees with every person he talks too, even if 2 minutes earlier he was saying the exact opposite. "I hate Aryran, she's a bigot" then a few minutes later "I trust you Aayran more than anyone else in the house"

They should get rid of it. Its bad for the game.

This America Vote just SUCKS! its ruining the game.

This is perfect example of what AMERICA"S VOTE F'ING SUCKS

She playing a good game, yet she's on the block because America doesn't like her. That the only reason, so it SUCKS that the players don't know that.

Nobody in the game the play a smart game when there are aspect of the game they can't plan for.

How about a HG be randomly picked to be on the block? Its the same damn thing, they can't play a game that prevent them from randomly being picked.

Yeah, more America's vote BS. Maybe next weel America will get to decide the HOH. Then week after that America will decide who gets evicted, then at the ended the game America will decide the winner. Who gives a damn who's the best player because America gets to decided everything. This truly SUCKS!

"America vote" sucks!

Not because of who is, or who isn't, nominated.

It sucks because the HGs have no idea WTF is going on and how plan for it. Its like randomly shocking a rat in a maze, The rat does not know if turning left or turning right will result in a shock, and has no idea that the F'ing shock is beyond his control.

Thanks, I just Helen telling Aaryn she's safe this week, but not sure if Heln is being truthful with Aaryn.Seem logical for Helen to want to keep Aaryn around because she has no chance of winning even if she were to make it to the final 2 after her various racist comments. Some things just can't be explained away.

Can some please clarify for me who is this week target.

I've been listening to the feeds for the past couple of days, and can't determine who is the main target.

thanks

Around 3am PST, she was about do some weird\gross party trick, but the feed were cut. When the feed came back, I heard "They (the producers) must have googled it really quickly to find out what is was"

Anyone know what she party trick she was about to do?

Boy she got to the biggest Bimbo ever to be on BB. In the backyard and she just ask: "You mean we're on TV every night (BBAD) and people can see and hear everything we do? Can they watch us take a shit?"

Rest of the HGs explain to her BBAD,

I hope she stay around for a few more weeks because she sooooo dumb!

Aryan just told Katlin that Jeremy is her brother.... but it is total BS

This bimbo truly defines "air head". I just watched Thursday episode and she said something like this: "It's not fair to evict Jeremy just because he's a threat and good at competitions".

OK, according to her bimbo logic, the HGs should be evicted int the following order: ugly people are first to go because they are ugly (Duh!), then the minorities because they aren't white, then the poor people because they are dead beats, then those who are not part of 'popular' crowd because they are losers or geeks that smell bad.... At the end, the super jocks let the head cheerleader win (Aryan) because the head cheerleader has sex with the super jocks, and if the super jocks want any more sex, then they let the cheerleader win..... That's bimbo logic as to how BB should be played.

How about this, at the very end of the game, we bring all back the HGs and simply let AMERICA decide who wins BB. Would that be a cool\lame twist? Who gives a damn who's the best player, let's just make the winner the most popular player. Let's turn BB into nothing but a popularity contest, and have super models and Hunks that are trying to break into show business.. Get rid of all the normal people.

The whole America';s vote is LAME LAME LAME.

Um wait! When did the conversation turn into saving aryan!

Let America decide, or flip a coin, or maybe some monkeys at the zoo. Does it really matter, just as long as its not the remaining HGs that decide! (insert heavy sarcasm)

ALL shows allowing America to have a vote do not turn out as they should. American Idol suffers from teenie bopper finger bangers voting for the CUTEST dude - not the talented one. And they OPPOSITE vote - voting maliciously just for shits n giggles.

And who in the hell wants to face america's vote when they are standing next to some pre-pubesent 10 year boy\girl who has some basic singing talent. We all love the cute kid, and couldn't give a flying fig if the person next to them is an outstanding singer. Even Adele couldn't beat a cute 10 year old if it were left to America to decide who was the better singer. Cute kid wins every time, talented adult singer gets shown the door. Once cute kid isn't so cute anymore in a couple years, nobody care about him either.

Having America decide who get nominated F'ING SUCKS. Not because of who is nominated, but because America should't vote as to who gets nominated\evicted\etc in the game.

America gets so see\hear all the HGs\strategies\plans\etc, so its complete crap that outsiders have any say on who get nominated. SH*T, why not just have America vote out HGs every F'ing week, and let the HGs pander to the GD cameras all week begging American to keep them, and evict other HGs.

This really twist SUCKS BIG GREEN DONKEY DONGS.

I am few days behind, but this twist of allowing America nominate a HGs, F"ING SUCKS. Not just a little bit, but its likes stepping in fresh dog Sh*t, and enjoying the smell.

American should not have anything to do with who gets nominated, evicted, returns to the game, or wins. With crappy twists like this, well get to the end of game with 2-3 players left in the final week, and we'll get crappy twist like "America, who do want back in the game? Press 1 for David, Press 2 for Nick, Press 3 for Jeremy......" . in other words, it won't matter how the game is played, because in the end, American will decide based on popularity, not on skills that it takes to survive one week to the next for 3 months.

moving most to another thread.