CeCiMom

Sounds like some people haven't been "misted".........refreshing.

This will be DG's claim to fame after BB, I was able to manipulate and outwit an honest young man with a disability and a weak female that I was sent into the game to mentor.....I AM GREAT, RIGHT??

Ian hasn't played an "honest" game since week 3 when the QP was formed. And, imo, It's a bit condesending to view Ian as a disabled person when he doesn't look at himself in that way in the slightest bit.

He's more than showed his ability to lie and manipulate throughout this game, just like the rest of the house. The reality is, Ian is/has been mentally and physically stronger than most of the house guests this season. He might handle some of the stresses differently than you or I would but, that doesn't make him weak.

I didn't like the way Danielle was yelling and threatening him with votes but, that's not because he's challenged but, because I don't like it when anyone physically intimidates others in this game.

Ian has been a part of many of the screaming matches himself and instigated them too. Remember when Frank and Boogie went on a tyrade for hours against Dan (when it was really Ian that did them dirty, I might add) in which Ian knowing full well Dan wasn't the one that was deserving of their vileness... Ian jumped on that bandwagon as fast as he could to push Dan further down. Ian innocent, honest man... laughable!

(And, yes I know Ian has reasons for all of his actions in the game. My point is that it is a game and Dan's reasons should be just as acceptable as Ian is in his justifications.)

Dan celebrated Ian's victory in front of Dani......the big "plan",dani screaming at Ian that if he doesn't take her she's going to make sure he doesn't get jury votes....... was supposed to scare Ian into throwing the last comp to dan.......another "mind f***" dan came up with thinking Ian's stupid enough to trust Dan in the end and give him control.....in any case, Ian didn't bite, he could care less about the D/D show or the influence she's pretending she'll have over the jury, Ian WANTS the final win "for his resume" (LOVE HIM!).

Either way, it doesn't hurt dan at all, whatever happens, dan is F2.......but all the BS----uh,oh I mean "mist" makes him look good to dani that he was "trying" to get her to F2 but in the end....too bad, so sad.

Jsyk,

Dan's plan didn't include the screaming and yelling... Dani made an acting "choice" there.

...I want Ian and Dan F2 with Dan winning the big bucks!

From your fingers to the BB gods ears... Choo choo!!!

Will Danielle cry nonstop today? Will Dan really sleep until 5 tonight? How many times will Ian gesture chopping at his pelvic region today? I know ya'all are on the edge of your seats!

Joke of the day........

"Dan's fans can't wait to buy his "mist" which he will bottle and sell as soon as he is able to get bull s*** to come out of a spray bottle".

Thanks for posting Wil's link Marty... I've been waiting for part 2 to come out. These videos make me pee my pants!!!

Do you have the exact time of the "conscience" comment? I used flashback well before and after the comment about throwing part 3 to Ian and never heard that. At first I thought the person reporting that was incorrect but you're the second person to mention it.

FB to 10:34 pm 9/15 and just about 10:34:45 is where he talks about needing to throw part 3 to Ian and he doesn't have the conscience to cut "the girl."

Why doesn't Ian think getting rid of Dan will appeal to the jury as good game play, as he'd of been responsible for getting Boogie and Dan out, arguably 2 of the best players to play the game?

What I've been gathering with his mumblings and statements he's been making to Danielle since the Shane evicted especially is that he's going for the good vs evil vote. Ian wants to claim that he's been loyal to his alliance, that's what he based all his decisions on, etc. etc. And he gave Dan his word F2, renegades. And, if he back stabs Dan then he doesn't have that arguement for jury. And, the reason he's acting so upset about Dan saving him with the veto and evicting Shane is for the same reasons. To make Dani hate Dan all the more and vote for him (Ian)... and I think the reason he's going with this strategy to the jury is because of Frank. He thinks he has Britney, Shane and that by getting Frank he gets Ashley and then he wins no matter what Joe, Jenn or Danielle do with their votes.

Dan just said he might have to throw part 3 to Ian. He thinks he needs to take Ian to F2 and doesn't have the conscience to cut Danielle. (Then says to viewers... I know you'all are surprised I have a conscience. lol )

You're right about the person that leaves next doesn't have time to influence the jury. At least not in the last couple seasons anyway.

Dan is definitely taking Dani to the F2 if he wins. imo

I really hope Dan realizes the plan to get Ian to throw the last comp. isn't going to work so, he can tell Danielle to stop with this bull crap.

I've not been a big fan of Ian's (but, I think Dan and Ian are the two i've most wanted to see win this season.) and I didn't feel bad for Janelle, Boogie, Frank or Shane when they were blind-sided.

I also, haven't felt Ian needed to be nurtured or coddled at any point in this game until tonight. When it comes to yelling and screaming at someone with gaming threats, it goes too far, imo. She could have just as easily gave him all that information about tainting the jury and he better not take Dan, etc. etc. without the bullying him. Imo

My attitude previously with Ian is he knew what he was getting into and he shouldn't have been on the show if he couldn't handle it but, for some reason it just seems unneccessarily cruel to put him through this... and I guess as I think about it the difference is that this plan isn't going to work and so there's no point to it all.

I agree Marty. It's not going to work. And, imo, Dan needs to let it go before it backfires. He just needs to realize that he can't trick his way into this "win"... he's going to have to get there on his own accord.

Ian giving Dan a lecture that he needs to just behave. He is saying he may only get 50 grand.

I am thinking that Danielle yelling at Ian was fake.

Dan needs to be careful or he will mess things up.

It is fake... Dan/Dani planned this charade last night. Or should I say Dan planned this and Dani went along with it.

Dan and Dani planned the "dramatics" before the comp. in case Ian won. They want ian to throw it to Dan. (Which he's not going to do but, they're trying.)

Their strategy is that Ian doesn't want to evict Danielle so, if he (Ian) can get Dan to do it for him... then Ian will get Danielle's and Shane's vote in jury. As foolish as a lot of the players have been under Dan's mist... I don't think he can pull this one off. He's going to have to beat Ian in the HoH - Part 3 comp. if he wants to take Danielle with him. imo

Feeds back! Ian won HoH - Part 2.

I am conflicted - I just want Dan to win part 3.

I want Ian to win the America's Choice

I want to see Danielle's face when she doesn't win over Dan. She can take her little money and move on.

I like the way you think!!!

But Britney couldn't stand Danielle. She would roll her eyes and she even said in the DR that she has to just put up with her. I really think Britney will be on Team Dan. I think Joe will not be bitter and will in the end vote for Dan because he is the better player.I don't think he ever cared for Dani. As Jenn said in her interviews she thought Dan played the best game and she genuinely seems to like him.

I had forgotten Britney said that about Dani... and I really hope you're right about the rest of the votes too!!!

At some point today Ian and Danielle will play for the HoH - Part 2.

Who is everyone rooting for? I'm rooting for Ian because I'd like to see a F2 of Dan vs Ian.

I like her less and less each day. And, it has nothing to do with her elaborate stories/lies... it's her narcissism that drives me nuts!!!

Most everyone remembers the famous, "You play to win the game!" speech by then Head Coach of the NY Jets. After reading the last few pages of going back and forth about how Dan is playing the game (good or bad in your opinion) I couldn't help, but having this replay over and over in my head! Just replace the word "sports" with "Big Brother" and that is exactly how I feel!

"This is what's great about sports, the greatest thing about sports is you play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play just to play it. That's the great thing about sports, you play to win. And I don't care if you have any wins. You go play to win. When you start telling me it don't matter, then quit... GET OUT! Because it matters." ~ Herm Edwards

Poignant.

Dan can only win against Danielle. He wants to be with Dani in the final 2.

Dan would get - Britney, Joe, Ian and Jenn for sure. Not any of them care for Danielle

Are you sure about Britney... I thought they were BFF's in the house? And, Joe hated Dan.

I find myself just not sure how the jury is going to vote if Dan is in the F2... I'm a flip-flopper.

As of today... Dan gets Jenn and Ian guarantee. Danielle gets Shane guarantee. I'm guessing Dan gets Frank and Ashley and Dani gets Britney and Joe. That would be a 4-3 vote in Dan's favor!

(I'll think differently in 2 days though... ha)

I thought his interview with Jeff was a bunch of hogwash. He doesn't have any real feelings for Dani. He might "tap" that after the finale' but, unless she wins the $500,000... he'll be gone shortly there after. Imo

Since America doesn't dislike Dan, I think it's probably more likely that Shane told him something. Why would production tell Ian that Dan is playing a despicable game, since they likely want a Dan/Ian final 2?

I think the people that just watch the TV version of BB and/or only read the feeds think Dan is a super villian this season and Ian is the innocent, niave super fan. (That's why my comments about America not liking Dan. And, that when Shane called Dan a "dirty player" the audience cheered that comment. And, an audience member that was at the Wednesday taping said most the audience she talked to detested Dan.)

I think the reason they (BB) are telling Ian that Dan is hated is that Ian will turn on his F2 deal with him. I think BB thinks Ian will win over Dani much easier than Dan.

Just a note on the Jenn interview she would love to see Dan and Ian in the Final2. She seems to like Dan and I think she would be a vote for him in the Final 2 for sure against Danielle.

I guess Danielle's mist isn't quite as good as the teacher's yet.

Dan just asked his fans to vote Ian for America's Player! (I knew he had a soft spot for the guy.)

I caught lan saying things last night that he couldn't possibly know... like how much America dislikes Dan, that he's been playing a dispicable game, etc.

Only one way for Ian to have any inkling on how Dan (or anyone else) has played or is viewed by us, good or bad... and that's by production/DR. imo

Glad you stuck it out with us this season sparklet!