sparklet

Miss seeing Willie tonight! The drama is not the same without him!

I dont think she is a shoe-in by any means.. thats a bit out there to say.

And i do think she is the best coach right now... her team loves her. every other coach has atleast 1 person who doesn't want to be coached by that person.

joe and wil were talking the other day about how they really felt like janni wanted them in the final two, and that they were working together.

i agree! I may not like her witchiness sometimes. She is the Queen of Mean! But she is playing a good game!

Btw when do you think they are going to let the cockroaches in the game!

Allison Grodner does read the boards! And jani will probably get edit in a good light! She is rude, but she is playing a great game now and people including mike boogie is scare to go up against her! But its only wk 2

She sure doesnt have too hard of a time showing hatred and meaness tho does she?

no she doesnt! I call her the Queen of Mean! She has no problem showing those emotions! Its the warm emotions! She is cold to the core! Queen of mean! I also call the coaches cockroaches!

Hey Sparklet,

Please don't take this as an attack. I just want to ask you a couple of questions. I agree it just wasn't Willie's fault for the altercation.

You say, "Joe puts up his dukes! Now joe is a grown man he should no better! That is a sign he wanted to fight! If you put up your dukes in my world u better be prepared to use them!"

In your world when someone chases you into a room and is screaming at you, what do you do? Just sit there and take it?

Isn't Willie a grown man? Shouldn't he know better than to head butt someone?

While I agree the whole house was after him, Willie started that all by himself. When Willie himself mentions that he's going to do something that will get him kicked out, how is that not thug mentality?

I wish Willie didn't do this because he is Live Feed Gold watching him.

Loyalty is one thing, blind loyalty is another.

A perfect example is Penn State. I'm not equating the circumstances of what Willie did and what Sandusky did, just pointing out the both sides stayed loyal to the person.

I apoligize for the above example using Sandusky. In my mind I was equating the loyalty shown to Joe Paterno.

ok willie may have chase him, joe could have went into another room, u prove my point, instead he turn around but up his dukes and was waving his fist like come on! That means u want to fight! And he got in willies face, if he just walk away, not put up his dukes and step in his space, then he wouldnt got head butt! And it wasnt a hard head butts no bleeding and NO BRUISING! So clearly Willie didnt want to hurt him! Situation. just got out of control!

And this is clearly not like penn state! If you cant depend on your family to have your back then who can u depend on! Friends come and go but fam is forever! What did you want his fam to turn their backs on him like the people in the house, his coach! You want them to otracize him too becuz he messed up! If he dont have anyone in this world, ne has fam! Who stuck by the victims at penn state, FAMILY! No matter what fams gonna be their for you right or wrong! The coaches and staff were not family to the victim so it was easy for them to turn their backs! But the victims families were loyal to them! So i dont see your. Connection with the Hantz family loyality and Penn State

First off, I just want to say that a "good ol' boy" background is not a southern thing to me, but a mentality within a family or social group (believe me, that relates right her in Santa Barbara, California). The Hantz family would stick together like flies on horse poop if one of their own murdered someone in front of 100 witnesses.

Willie has an admitted violent history which he related to the house. Watching the tape Brandon, Russel and Brandon's dad made, they don't see anything wrong with the way Willie behaved. To Willie, Joe putting his arms in front of him to protect himself was "putting up his dukes". Seriously, what would you do when a guy is in your face yelling "hit me, hit me"?

Willie says he's not a violent person but he admittedly broke into an ex's house and beat the snot out of her boyfriend. Apology after the fact of a violent act does not make it any less of a violent act.

Unfortunately, I see more violence from Willie (and prob his family) down the road, ie: beating someone (probably several someone's) who say anything to him/them about getting kicked out of Big Brother or his behavior.

Personally, I think CBS better cut their loses and let the Hantz' fade into the background. I do not think putting Willie (or any other Hantz) on another reality show at this point would be wise.

sorry you this way! But this was not willies fault totally. Yes he use head bunts but dont think Willie is a violent person! Joe ran his mouth to a highten Willie! Then Joe puts up his dukes! Now joe is a grown man he should no better! That is a sign he wanted to fight! If you put up your dukes in my world u better be prepared to use them! It so happens that willie hit first! Joe was trying to provoke! He wasnt going to use his fist but he kept moving him like he was going to strike! And then in the DR Acts almost apologetic for putting willie in that situation! This house damages Willies character by to make people believe he was a bully and a homophobic! NOT TRUE! They outrcize him, shun him bascially treating him like he had the plaque! He got a major raw deal! All becuz he did jani and brits dirty work! And when he called the house meeting without the coch roaches Jani got mad and flip the votes! That is why her pettiness is going to get the best of her! But to lump Willie in a category that he is a thug and no good and his family are thugs and no good are way out of line! You dont know his home life and it sounds like to me, whatever the situation is, they got each others back! No matter what and russell has been getting trouble lately becuz of zealous fans getting in his face not realizing it is just a game!

The hantz has a reality show flipping houses! Its funny and of course Russell is Russell! I like to see them more on tv, they are quite entertaining! Funny as @!

Oh back to Willie! The house is not the same without him! Hope his brothers dont get him into trouble! Lol! And on the youtube interview with the Hantz boyz, it was hillarous! Hope they do another one! I like little hantz on the interview than survivor! Lol! How about Willie's pick for ashely to win it all? Huh? He had a good point she could slide right under the radar! I HOPE NOT! I agree with little hantz on that!

I know I can't either! I think some of them (Janelle for me) think they have a solid fan base, however who I like goes by their behavior in the house and how they play the game etc. So I am no longer will I ever been Team Jani...Willie had some fault in this whole situation too. But I wonder how a 30+ something mother can behave the way she does...

lol! Game wise she is going a great job! I name her the queen of mean! Becuz she has always hit below the belt! I feel for her becuz she only has bb! That is her accomplishment! Im not putting her down! Im just stating the facts! We thought she was going to do something big after bb6 and 7! But her acting skills sucks as u can see in her DRs lol! This is probably her last horah! I hope she does well and this time win! But her biggest flaw is she plays with emotions... anger! I really do hope she goes far, but on her own not with bb help!

If no one on franks side wins hoh next wk, he may be a goner! Becuz he will definitely go back up! He has a bulleye on his back!

How funny is it that it turns out you wre right...She didnt even really WIN that coaches comp, yet the first SECOND she had the chance to rub it in WIllies face she did...Way to be a 30 something mother there Janelle...(and btw you dont have to use your fists to be just as much a bully and at fault for physical confrintations)

yep totally agree! Next prediction, she is going to breakdown infront of cameras! She needs something to save her popularity right now! Watch! Im waiting for the crocodile tears to flow! She is a dang good player and she knows how to play the public too! That is why people love her! She knows how to work the crowd and she is a dang good player! I call her the queen of mean! But thats Jani! I told you she was being cocky! Lol! But i blame Brit the coach mostly for Willie demise on bb! When the going got tough she ran, hid and before it was over turn on him like a snake and killed him with Joes help! Even mike boogie said it was brits fault! Mike Boogie! But brit is walking around like she is the victim! Geesh! Smh!

I think the remaining HGs really screwed the online feed followers by acting like Willie was King Kong or something. There is one thing worse than a bad loser, and that really obnoxious winners who love rubbing salt into the wound. Can't wait for these creeps turn on one another.

I agree! I cant wait either! They think Willie is ruin! Only if they knew! Lol!

I think that production (and ALL of the coaches since that is part of a coach's general responsibility) could have and should have defused the situation considering that (in line with some of your thoughts) they brought Willie on board because of who he was and the overall Hantz reputation for controversy. I think the situation was blown out of proportion and I think that Willie's continued presence would have made BB14 more interesting or frankly, interesting. It is barely interesting to me at this point.

It is patently clear to me that online interest in BB has declined. I don't attribute the decline to Willie's situation specifically but BB surely doesn't need any missteps. In my opinion, they need to move away from bringing former HG's back so much. I do not find Janelle, Dan, Mike Boogie or Britney all that interesting in the first place.

i agree it has gotten boring! They are talking about hair, makeup, things at home etc... geesh!

No alot of players do not want to come back! That was the problem last year according to Dick! I think this time they ran across the same thing! People were turning them down! So they had a slim pick!

I can't wait for Joe to have his day! Wow I totally agree guys. Also they are thinking about voting for Willie for America's player on other sites too. And I see what you are saying Duchmo--he was right about the coaches as well. I am just really surprised about the actual fight after hearing that Willie was really mean, running around screaming, scaring people, breaking stuff and hitting people. it seemed as if they all drove him to the edge and then greatly exaggerated about his part in it. Just like the whole stupid "Wil incident"

YEAH they are blowing it up! Willie for America's Favorite Player! I vote for that! That would piss Jani off! See Jani doesnt realize that the reason why she has her fan base is becuz cappy's crew were treating Jani the same way she and the house were treating Willie! She was outrasize, shun, talk bad about and felt like a goner! Until she connected with Kaysar who was going thru the same thing and he formed the alliance the sov6! Well Willie had no one! Even his own coach threw him away! And still in his interviews he still thinks real highly of his coach becuz she gave him crocodile tears with phony sympathy while backstabbing him in the DR and to others! Yeah where can i vote to tell the house how we really feel! And thank you Allison Grodner for although it was edit, showing how it went down like the feeds on the internet! WILLIE is not a monster like the house wants everyone to believe (like we dont watch the feeds) he is some what a victim! I sais somewhat!

I just realized after this Thursday eviction there will be 9 remaining HGs. A number divisible by three. As in three coaches.

Hope Each coach gets 3 apiece...lol

No the coaches are going to be playing the game! Is just when? Dont u remember wk 1and when jani and brit were laughing about their team thinking they were in an alliance! They are playing these people to further their own game!

Im heated a little becuz i see alot of injustice being involve! Yes Willie handled it all wrong but the house baited him! Now on to watch Real housewives of NJ and trueblood! C yall later!

I DONT CARE! Im still a Hantz fan and will cont to watch their reality show! Hey in my world, if u put up your dukes, BETTER be prepared to use them! Joe should have just kept on walking! Yes Willie should have stayed seated but according to his coach he needed to be exile from everyone and wait til thursday to be evicted! She blamed every thing on him! Dont talk to him! If he is in a room u need to leave! The way they treated him, im suprise it took him that long to go off! Im sorry, i didnt see him as a homophobic and a bully! Who was he listening to the Jani and Brit! They gave him the noms! They set the tone on how to vote but Willie got blamed! And for joe, he deserved all those headbutts for all those lies he told! Especially about willie being homophobic although he didnt start that lie, Joe egged it on!

Uh OH--Allison Grodner is not stupid!! She reads the boards and is trying to show janelle and Dan in a good light missing their family. Not that they don't--but duh for why they are doing it.

yep! I pick up on that too! Lol! And janelle did not do it right! She said on season 7is allstars, she had a problem showing emotions! Lol! That doesnt mean she doesnt miss her child, she just has a hard time showing emotions!

OMG! Britany is the worst player ever! How dare she blame Willie for defending himself! I hope Janelle takes her down!

BRITANY SUCKS! She needs rachel in there to whoop her *@$!

BRITANY SUCKS! She needs rachel in there to whoop her *@$!

He won't do it (put Boog's players up). He's playing offensively, only to survive. He made a stupid deal with Boog/Frank the other day. Boog/Frank said, "if we give you the opportunity to play for pov by putting you on the block instead of backdooring you, will you give us a week of safety?" Shane said, "At this point, I'll promise you two weeks."

Sorry but I don't think Shane's very bright. He's been playing everyone elses game thus far with no moves of his own. He needs a leader coz he's not one.

i hope he was lying to them!

Janelle is playing a game for money.

some people wouldn't leave their kid for 3 months because they think that would be better for their kid.

some people would leave their kid for 3 months, so they can help out their future with 100k dollars, and they think it would be better for their kid.

different parenting styles.

You may not like it, but I do beleive that Janni loves her kid with everything inside of her. I don't think we should really get mad at each other because of somebody else's parenting.

ON A GAMES NOTE.

Look at her..she is doing great. Her team is the only team that hasn't had a person nominated yet. She has won 1/2 of the coach's competitons.. and her team is playing a fairly great social game.

Wil did really good on the HOH, and Ashely is doing great socially.

WIL and ASH will probably be descent at Endurance too (which should happen soon)

Janni is looking pretty good to win this 100k as of this point of the game.

I agree! U may not like her but she is playing a dang good game! She loves her child! Dont degrade her because she came on this show! And the reason why she probably doesnt talk about her child is becuz maybe their are some crazy fans out their that she doesnt want to expose her child to! Remember last year when fans were calling shelleys house harassing her fam! And that is not the only incident! Im not Jani's biggest fan (remember in allstars and still til this day dani bb3 all the way) but jani is doing a great job!

Well Janelle is Janelle and i like Willie wish he kept a cool head and stayed in the game! But Janelle is playing the game, she is doing good! She is here to win! But i did like that Willie was throwing pork rinds at her! Lol! That was too funny! Sorry! But she is the queen of mean! Lol! She probably deserve it! Heck she told Frank to throw fruity pebbles at willie when he is voted out and going out the door! I guess Willie beat her to the punch! Lol! I think joe should have stayed out of it! Things would have probably died down if joe didnt try to defend her honor! Jani gives as good as she gets and doesnt need nobody to defend her! Just saying!

LOOK! The guy cracked under pressure it happens! With rumors in the house he was a homophobic and his son is gay! Im assuming becuz that is brandom cuz! Plus everyone in the house hating him and your coach has given up on you! And you know when Janelle won she was probably being all cocky! Probably looked at him and said no trade! Lol! Dont forget she turn against him in votes and has it out for him! He was already mad about that! Yes he should have kept his cool! But he didnt! It doesnt mean he is a bad person! We saw on the live feeds he wasnt! He just doent know how to control his anger! Plus those Hantz boys have money! Remember rus is a millionaire he own some oil riggs! That was Willies cover which is the truth he works on an oil rig! Lol! THEY ARE NOT BROKE! I still like Willie he just mess up big time! He gave up! He should up flip out after the veto comp lol! Jk

I think Willie was dying of embarrassment because he went from the penthouse to the outhouse overnight and everyone expected him to do at least as well as his bro, making it to the end. Imo, we'll never hear from him again.

no yall are being to harsh and besides, The Hantz has their own reality tv show! Its pretty good!

Did i read the forum correctly??? Did Frank sell out Mike Boogie to Janelle???