wisegal

Okay, I just read on the update page that "It looks like Gina Marie will be putting up Andy as the replacement." I don't get the live feeds so I'm wondering when that changed. Last night when they all went to bed, Spencer had volunteered to go up as the replacement.

I think Andy has covered his tracks pretty well throughout the season so far. He had to show his hand somewhat when Helen was evicted but other than that, he's been pretty slick at keeping the target off his back. He was smart enough to jump ship when Amanda finally went off the deep end & has managed (as far as I can tell as of last night) to keep her believing he's got her back.

Whoever initiated the sacred rule of "voting with the house" did him a huge favor. The house seems to be a CRAFTY "floater's paradise" this season.

you know.Wisegal ..i don't recall ever saying that Elissa is a saint ..no one walking this earth is as far as i'm concerned..i i happen to like her better than someone who truly thinks the world revolves around her..i don't see the harm in that ..as for hating someone ..my God knows i really don't hate anyone..i guess i shouldn't have used that term....but despising her actions is ok if i happen to see red when someone is a bully ..i can't help that have a good day

Edieann,

I don't like a bully either and never condoned Amanda's actions. I also see red when someone is bullied irl but i think some of this stuff is just staged so I don't get too upset about it. Regarding Elissa, I've already stated my aversion to her. in my opinion, she is no shrinking violet and enjoys baiting the aggressor & crying foul. I dislike that behavior as much as bullying. The "saint" reference was not aimed at you & I hope you have a good day too.

Mandy is trying to plant the seed too to get him to use it on her. He would stay on the block because he would not be using it on himself. Judd is trying to plant the seed for him to take her down. They still want McCrae out before Amanda.

If Judd somehow convinces him to use the veto on Amanda, he is smarter than I thought...& McCrae cares more for Amanda than I thought. Lol

Pretty scary world when your moral fiber is based on a "Elissa Like Scale".

Exactly.

I think its human nature to want "the good guy" to win. It took me a few frustrating seasons to realize that Heros and heroines are few & far between when it comes to BB. I didn't really enjoy the show until I QUIT looking for "the good guy" to root for every season.

If we all lived by The Golden Rule, the world would be a better place...but it ain't gonna happen on BB...and I'm pretty confident that God wont hold it against me if I dont consider Elissa a saint and I'm CONVINCED that He doesn't want me to HATE anyone...even Amanda.

You never know. Many young people just want to be famous and are willing to do whatever it takes to be in the spotlight...including dating creepy guys. I'm so old, I just don't get "kids these days!"

Just curious, has there ever been a diamond veto as this person described in past seasons?

it appears to me that amanda is immune to criticism. she simply desregards it after minute reflection and goes about her business. it is just that I don't like her under any circumstances and dislike her even more because she latched onto mccrae and together they created something damned distasteful and pretty much ruined the feeds for me. it has not escaped my attention, however, that amanda has managed to rule the house despite all odds; including the very odd helen.

Amanda obviously has disorders… I'm pretty sure these disoders end with "osis" and/or "istic." Honestly, it's always been my opinion that the majority of the houseguests have psychological issues/personality disorders. That's probably why I watch BB. The human psyche can be fascinating and yet appalling at the same time.

Amanda's inability to see herself as a bully is sad and mind boggling. Even now she is convinced that Judd is the one who put her on the block twice. She simply cannot fathom that America would dislike her enough to put her on the block. There's just no convincing the girl.

She's not my cup of tea but she has ran the house practically from day one...until recently. Bullying worked for ED but it obviously won't take her to the final two. The girl is wicked smart but If she was as diabolically cunning as she thinks she is, she wouldn't find herself in her current predicament.

She's good for ratings so maybe BB will help her out. Dick won and he was repulsive... Rachel won & she was a flippin train wreck. Anything could happen and I guess that's why I keep watching.

They do know that AR can't be played from a bed, right?

Lmao! That's hysterical.

Considering all the nasty hateful things Amanda said while she followed her around the house , I'm surprised Elissa showed the restraint she did, I would have said much worse, Amanda gets exactly what she gives, come on now, no one is perfect and this is bb, why can't we just like who we like, give our opinion without it being ripped apart by the ones who disagree , there is no right or wrong, in my mind tho Elissa has sooooooooo much more class then Amanda

Good point! I'm not a fan of Amanda OR Elissa but when I commented that Elissa isnt completely innocent & on a personal level, she actually annoys me more than Amanda, another poster was appalled by my obvious lack of good sense & didnt mind pointing it out...more than once. Lol. I was told to "hate who I want" but I got the distinct impression that this person was truly bothered by my opinion. THEN another poster wrote an essay explaining (to the first poster) why anyone who shares my opinion is basically a scourge on society. Really???

First & foremost, I don't HATE any BB hg - that's just ridiculous to me. I enjoy a snarky comment as much as the next guy & I enjoy this website but wow! Some people get pretty intense if you don't share their opinion! Peace Peace

I think they were clearing the platforms. I am sure one of them would have said something if they were pushed unless it was written in their contracts. lol

Yes, that's the (half) million dollar question.

It looked like she just jumped off in that clip. She didnt look like she was off-balance at all. I couldn't make out what was next to her feet. ???

Thanks Marty!!!

Also when did Judd wake up Spencer and tell him that Elissa was going to put up Andy and spencer or is Spencer just lying again?

I was wondering the same thing!

Also, I was watching BBAD last night and got distracted for a minute when Spencer and Andy were lying on the couches in the LR. Something was said about some kind of meat...& maybe Candice ate it???? …Elissa walked by and reprimanded them. When she left the room, Andy looked at Spencer and said, "I HATE her." Spencer seemed to nod in agreement. Anybody know what they were talking about?

The "truth" according to Monk. I enjoyed the read. Lol

I don't despise or hate either of them. . .but thanks for your permission to do so in case I fall off the deep end.

She annoys me more than Rachel too, which is pretty incredible. I think it is because Rachel didn't think her ish didn't stink. She was just a sore loser and bad winner. Elissa is all that with a snotty too good tude, while being a dirty hypocrite. Not that I want Rachel back, but I would rather watch the real deal than this thing.

You"re killin me!!! Lmao

i don't see how anyone can think Elissa is just as annoying as amazon! what would you do if some one was blowing horns in your ears or banging on your door ,sticking their face in yours? not to mention the personal insults about you and your family..i would have smashed her in the face but Elissa laughed...wow how annoying..ridiculous..so amazon is going out the door now

:hurray: bye amazon

It's easy for me to be annoyed by her because i dont find much to admire about her. i dont care for the way she interacts with others necessarily. She comes off as dumb, superficial, shallow, uninteresting and phony...imo. She makes really weird faces when talking - its as if she sits in front of the mirror and practices facial expressions because there's nothing genuine about her. And the voice! The whiny voice is like fingernails on a chalkboard! Her voice just absolutely grates on my nerves. And she speaks like a valley girl in jr. high. Almost everything about her annoys me. She is passive aggressive & plays innocent after goading Amanda.

But that's just my opinion. So again, it's easy for me to be annoyed by her...just as its easy for you to hate Amanda. You're entitled, just as I am.

Wow Elissa in GinaMarie's HOH room is being so phony right now. She has said "This is sooooo amaaaazingggg" at least 24 times and actually uttered the words "I already miss Aaryn" and "I can't think of any place I'd rather be". I don't know if she's purposely trying to bait Amanda into snapping or if she's just actually that annoying and phony.

I don't know who to hate more, Amanda or Elissa.

Lol. They are both making idiots of themselves.

I don't hate either one of them but honestly, if I was in that house with Elissa, I would have to self evict. Ha ha! She actually annoys me more than her freak sister.

After watching a few seasons of BB, I finally came to the conclusion that it was highly unlikely that I would ever be able to actually like any hg enough to want them to win. Last year though, I was pleasantly surprised and actually rooted for Ian! This year, I'm back to a state of apathy concerning the winner...as long as it isnt Aaryn (check) or the phony, annoying, superficial, self-righteous fembot who can't imagine why anyone would dislike her. I don't know that I really would want Amanda to win either but I wouldn't mind it for the sole purpose of (yet again) "confusing" her highness. Lol

Meh. Elissa is pretty disgusting for poking the bear and then crying victim when she got bit.

I agree. Elissa Is as much responsible for the situation as Amanda is. They are both making idiots of themselves but the "innocent victim" act is more annoying to me than Amanda's antics.

I see that Britney is still a silly twit.

She makes a silly twit look like a genius! Wow, the girl has ZERO ability to read people who aren't "like her." Hey Brit! Don't poke the angry caged animal with a stick!!! It's as if she said exactly the WRONG thing at the worst possible time all week when dealing with Willie. SHE screwed her team - period. I'm sure she has a wonderful life in the real world - she should have stayed there imo.

I don't know how the week could have gone worse for willie! Brit gave him ONE - and ONLY one - good piece of advice: humble yourself a little bit. I know a lot of people compare him to evil dick but I don't think he's anywhere close to being the nasty bully that dick was/is. He imitated Wil and got accused of being a homophobe by Frank (behind his back). I would have been pissed too...doubly so if I had been working behind the scenes to keep him (frank) from being evicted. He obviously should have maintained his composure when confronting frank about it but still, I felt he was justified in calling him out on it publicly. Hope he tones it down a smidge, fights hard & somehow manages to stay longer than another week!

I don't get BB after dark but i always read the updates on this site. I kept wondering about how the "mentors will be merged into the game" idea/rumor got started and was glad that the show tonight finally shed some light on the subject. I was shocked to find out it's just pure speculation on brit's part!!! Wow. And as if that wasn't bad enough, she shares it with willie!!! She instigated a large part of the drama this week & I don't think she even realizes it. I hate to say it but if one of her players wins, they will win it in spite of her "mentoring." Maybe someone in the DR will drop a few hints to her and she'll catch on.

Hmmmm... Interesting post. It leaves one to ponder whether wisegal's recent posts were a study in irony or reflective anger?

In other words, has wisegal been aware of her own aggressive style, condescending tone and demeaning content or not!

If not, for the present, let's all enjoy the irony of wisegal's post and for the future, we can exercise our "Ignore" button...

If so, then our new friend wisegal does indeed understand that her message's best audience was herself and merely misdirected her words at another poster....

Monk

Oh my, another one! Aggressive style? I simply stated my opinion concerning a houseguest and was accused of being "passive aggressive" for bothering to point out her nicer attributes as well as critique her (non)gameplay. I don't care for bullies, especially when they pretend to have class. Have a lovely evening.

I think for Jordan playing the game is very social. She knows she is not good at comps, so she befriends everyone in the house and makes them not want to vote her out. Porsh mainly slept the whole game. She even said (or posters put words in her mouth.. I don't remember) that the reason she switched sides was because K/D did not talk game 24/7. Porsh did win comps and was "cursed" with the golden key, but she did not do the social part of the game which is so crucial to Jordan's game play. Ergo I can see how Jordan (and a lot of people) say that Porsh really did not play the game.

At the risk of being labeled "passive-aggressive" again (laughing), Jordan is such a genuine and endearing type of person that she just got to be herself for the most part. You're right, she is socially adept! I guess the way I was looking at it was she didn't do anything because she didn't HAVE to do anything. She's a sweetheart and people naturally take to her and in addition to that, she was ALWAYS protected by Jeff & any alliances they made. She's kind and well-mannered. . .really, ya just can't say enough about her. . .she's a sweetheart! That's why she was able to float & be protected. Strategy? I didn't think so. Probably more than anything, I just thought she made for a very boring HG. *shrugs*

I wasn't impressed with Porshe until she threw her hands up with Rachel during one of her wacked-out episodes. She earned my respect for calmly walking away from that alliance (remember, she was with the vets at first). She still managed to stay on their good side for a while & when she tried to get Adam to keep Dani, I thought, "GOOD, you're finally DOING something!" Regardless of whether you like Dani or not, Porshe DID make a move in addition to winning some comps. Jordan never HAD to. . .and I guess that's why it bothered me that she campaigned against Porshe on the premise that she did NOTHING. That's just the way I saw it and I didn't mean to offend anyone with my remarks or imply (intentionally or otherwise) that I thought she was a bad person. lol I respect your take on it too and don't claim that I'm RIGHT about anything. (Geez, FatCat's in my head! help!!!)

I like BB but I haven't watched EVERY season. I don't usually have a favorite but I admire the players who 1) manage to engage & be civil to other HG's 2) enjoy themselves 3) are discerning enough to know when to cut ties and go a different direction and 4) aren't afraid to make their move once they figure it out. They walk a fine line in that house and it's fun to watch them try to figure out what to do to win the big bucks!

Ididn't missunderstand anything, you are the one who has it wrong, all Jordan said is that she knows nothing about the girl except that she wears her bikins and cooks, so where does gameplay come into that??? I think Jordan did a lot of strategizing, you dont, who cares , I dont Rachel won, whoop whoop, I am thrilled, I never said you hated her dont put words in my mouth but you were making contradicting remarks, in a passive agressive manner, who cares???? games over, difference of opinion, dont tell me to chill, chill yourself if you want to go that route, it is just a game for cripes sake, and I think Jordan has more class then that skank Porsche could ever ever pretend to have, just sayin

We definitely disagree on some things and you're right, it IS just a game. In the grand scheme of things, it means nothing, but your attitude toward other posters DOES matter. I'm surprised you get away with some of your remarks here because it's apparent you have difficulty being civil or diplomatic towards those who don't share your opinions. And speaking of class, maybe you shouldn't discuss subject matter that you're ignorant of by all accounts. People come here to enjoy the conversation about a reality show. Who gave YOU permission to be the judge, jury, psycho-analyst & executioner? How's THAT for passive-aggressive. *laughing* just sayin