April

According to Willie, all they did was put a computer in the HoH room so he could blog. (That's what he told Brit)

Willie in hoh room , no one else allowed in. He exited with a bag, went to the DR for 5ish minute, and went back upstairs with something in his bag. He said "this game... changes all the time." (he looked happy)

This is absolute chaos. Joe confirm his alliance with Frank, and 30 seconds later is telling Shane how Frank has got to go. Shane agrees, and thinks its very unlikely that Kara goes (lol?)

Jani and Brit talking about how they gave up a lot to come here, Brit crying.

9:50 BBT Wil and Janelle privately discuss next week. Wil wants Willie out, but Janelle says its too early to go back on their alliance. Wil suggests getting on Frank's good side if he stays, but Janelle says the problem with that is he is 100% tied to Boogie. They thank god for Joe, and agree he's very trustworthy. They agree Frank should be gone, and that Willie is a dumbass. Wil says JoJo already says she wants Kara out, and they're going to do whatever he says. At this point, Janelle's team has to go with keeping Frank because that's what Willie wants. Janelle says that Willie is a complete dumbass because Boogie is going to come right after him.

Noon BBT - After some conversation, Janelle believes that Kara is no threat at all. Brit doesn't think its about Kara, its ALL about Dan. Kara wouldn't matter at all if she wasn't tied to Dan. Janelle doesn't care either way. Janelle says that they (the coaches) won't go into the game next week, they will go into the game the week after. Janelle has decided Kara needs to go this week so that Wil doesn't work with Kara once Janelle and Britney enter the game. Janelle and Brit want to make up a lie so that Kara goes. Brit suggests they just think on it.

Willie explaining to Brit they need to KEEP Frank this week, but keep it a secret from Janelle. Willie said they have himself, Boogie's whole team, Jojo, Ashley and probably Shane to vote Kara out. Brit saying that Kara can't win an HoH, isn't Willie worried about getting Frank out later? Willie saying Kara will get numbers behind her. B: if we get rid of Kara this week, everyones gonna wanna go after Frank next week. W: EXACTLY. Basically Willie and Brit have decided they need to get Kara out this week, and to paint the picture it benefits all of them.

10:53 BBT Not much going on that we can see. Joe, Wil and Janelle sit out by the pool, casually chatting about challenges in general, and who might be good at holding their own body weight for challenges. Janelle talks a little bit about some of her challenges in all stars. Willie, JoJo, Boogie and a few others are sitting outside on the couches. Boogie's birthday is brought up and people wish him a happy one. Boogie: thanks for hanging out with me on my birthday, oh wait-- you don't have a choice. Now everyone outside (couches and by the pool) are shouting back and forth about just random things like sports, alcohol, etc. Jojo and Janie want strictly wine for "ladies night" drinking, because they don't really like the beer. Inside, Dan prepares his breakfast alone. Janelle now watching Dan prepare his breakfast. Dan reminds Janelle he can't talk about the DR because production will get mad. Janelle and Dan now both prepping breakfast. Nice and quiet in the kitchen, most everyone is outdoors or nowhere to be found. FOTH

10:05 AM BBT Nothing going on, just general buzz of waking up, ADLs, making/ eating breakfast. ** Shane, Joe, Wil, and Willie talking strategy, the tried and true "we have to win HOH this week", the importance of sticking together. They believe the 'other side' talks to Joe because they think he's on the outs. Shane: you (Wil), Ashley and Jojo are in a great spot. pretty circular talk about how they NEED to win hoh, hoping Brit or Janie wins the coaches comp, and how Boogie and his people are going to try to break them up but they have to stay strong. Girls start coming outside, and convo switches to naps in the BB house, etc. ** Inside, Ian suggests to Boogie "if you want to start a huge house fight, piss ALL over the seat." Boogie tells Ian that Ian needs to ask other people questions when they take an interest in him.

Willie doesn't have a twitter. Producers asked Ashley to deactivate her twitter account. Brit says that their families should create their twitter before someone takes their name and tries to sell it to them. Brit says they are only famous to a small select group of people, and sometimes they get a casino offer for 1,000 and real alcohol. Dan said he was messed up in the head for 2-3 months after BB because he was obsessed with responding to people, up til 6am every night. He said it was different winning because you don't know who is real or not. He was glad his life went back to normal. Brit said the show didn't help her get a job at all after the show. Brit used all of her twitter followers to negotiate wedding vendors down, and it worked. Dan said someone from his season is completely different after the show (doesn't say who)

2:22 BBT Brit, Willie, Dan, Ashley discuss twitter. Dan didn't have twitter when he got out, so he says he needs to talk to Brit about that. Brit tells them as soon as they get out how many people comment all over their tweets, etc. Brit sent one of her followers on twitter (15 years old) who defends her all the time money to buy the live feeds for this season as soon as she knew she was on this season. Willie says Jeff has the most followers out of the people on BB. Willie asks Brit how many people are watching the feeds right now, she has no idea. Dan and Brit say people watch every year and it has to be making money. Ashley asks how the live feeds work. Dan "the producers select 4..." FOTH.

2:11 BBT: Janelle explains to JoJo and Kara how live feeds work. Kara is surprised that we can hear them talking. Janelle explains there's probably a camera on them, and a camera on the people by the pool (true!) Outdoors, Ian, Frank, and Jenn talk about food they miss from certain places. Giving bars and restaurants shout outs. *** Kara has only seen BB from season 8 on. Kara and JoJo are excited to watch Janelle and Dan's seasons now that they know them. Janelle says she gained a lot of weight in both seasons because all there is to do is eat. Talking about presequester, Jojo bought herself bottles of wine from room service and Janelle bought herself 2 little bottles on the 4th of July. They liked being served. Kara thought she would be on Janelle's team. Janelle thought production was going to pick the teams FOR the coaches, "because they didn't really tell us how it was going to work" --FOTH. Jojo saying haters from her real life are probably spreading things all over the internet about her, Janelle tells them that people that didn't like her who she went to HS with posted all over the internet about how dumb she was, and how she was such a dork in high school etc. Jojo: keep on hating, bitches. Jojo goes on to say she only really has two enemies, and we get FOTH.

1:13 PM BBT -- not much happening. Kara and Jenn discussing tattoos in one of the bedrooms, others making/ eating lunch and laying outside. Dan and Willie now in HoH --- but can't hear because BB is giving us the FOTH music instead of the actual audio. So I can see but not hear them. 1:29 BBT Their conversation has ended with a handshake (again, I can't hear I can only see) 1:30 BBT Willie and Joe talk (no audio) 1:34 the convo ends with laughter and a handshake. Still no audio. Everyone is outside on the couches. (I'm leaving now , I can't deal with not having audio!)

Boogie and Ian now conferencing. They believe "duckgate" is now water under the bridge. Boogie is praising Ian for trying to downplay his intelligence after he rattled off all 14 seasons of bb evictions . Janelle joins, Janelle and Boogie talk about how great Monica (season 2) is, and that Janie hung out a lot with her when she lived in NYC. Janelle lived in Miami and NYC. She'd fly out to Miami and would waitress on the weekend, then flew out to NYC and sold real estate during the week. ** Inside, Dan and Kara conference. Discussing how awkward Kara feels about Boogie asking her out on a date. Kara tells Dan the answer is NO, but she feels so weird and awkward around him. K: never in a million years. I was cracking up. Dan advises that she should tell him she told her family she wouldn't get involved in a showmance.

While feeds were off, Ian asked out Ashley on a date. Willie and Kara now talking in HoH, many of the others outside laying by the pool. Kara just talking about how she hates talking in front of people. Willie advises Kara to lay low this week and ride it out, he thinks shes in a good spot.. Kara said he'd put out Ian and Jenn because he wants Mike Boogie out, and Ian terrifies her. Willie: if you did that, that'd be excellent. Willie: lets say Ian wins, and puts me up with somebody-- would you vote for me to stay? K: yes. W: you promise? Because I'm doing you a solid this week? K: yes. W: and if Danielle won, you think she'd do the same? K: yeah I mean I think she'd go the same way I did. W: lets just go on a week to week basis, get this done. I'm not saying final 2 deal or anything, I'm just saying week by week. K: I'm in debt to you if you save me, and I'd return the favor. I think that's fair, just go week to week. W: just keep it LOW, just don't go around scattering, it'll just hurt you. Don't go getting Dan all riled up, leave it alone. K: yeah, ok, yes. W: I'm not saying this is 100% made up or anything. Willie just wants Kara's vote if he's up next week, or if she's HoH not to put him up. Kara just agreeing. Willie doing 95% of the talking. W:PLEASE don't go around telling Dan, because Dan's going to ask you. Just say he's still not 100%, which is true I'm not 100% yet. I really would like for you to stay in this game, and I want to trust you so bad. Meanwhile, in the storage room, Boogie, Frank and Shane are confident Frank is staying this week. They split up after a brief meeting. Now the house is buzzing with lunch, laying out by the pool, etc. Talk of Ashley's slop date tonight with Ian, etc.

Veto NOT used. Brit , Joe, Janelle, and Ashley (????) are now discussing who to boot now. Janelle et al. decide frank "really needs to freaking go." Janelle doesn't want to tell anyone else about the switch, and let Dan continue to think Kara is going. Janelle thinks a blind side is necessary. They think that Boogie will be rattled. Brit asks if they should try to make a deal with Dan, Janelle says no. Brit: there's no way Frank would get rid of anyone on their side of the house. We can't trust Kara either. If she won, she'd totally put up our side of the house. If we take out Frank, they have NO physical chance. Janelle and I can at least relate to Kara, so we have a better chance of swaying her nominations if she did get hoh. Janelle: absolutely, absolutely. Brit and Janelle lament that leaving Dan with 2 could come back to bite them later on, and they hate leaving him in, but "this" has to be dealt with. Janie and Brit: he's really, really good. Brit: he left the room and I was in a mist. FOTH

Currently on trivia for POV ceremony.

Dan and Boogie in the Living Room During the first nominations ceremony, Ian apparently sat there with a duck on his head (according to Dan) They agree Ian is not in a good game position, but is very endearing and think people will be able to relate to him. Apparently, after the POV comp, all the competitors were soapy and sudsy. Ian decided to take a shower after the competition, and the ones who were soaking wet and soapy had to sit around and wait for him to be done. Boogie and Dan agree he doesn't do it on purpose. Boogie asks Dan if he regrets his picks. Boogie semi regrets Ian because he's so young. Dan thinks his team is on life support, and Dan and Boogie both seem to think that Willie was going to be super brash, but turns out he's not. They both agree he would have been a great first or second pick). Dan: you passed on him (Willie) once, I passed on him twice. Boogie: no, I passed on him twice too! (It's difficult to convey their tone in text here, but it sounds like both of them REALLY regret not picking WIllie more than they're letting on.) Dan and Boogie think noms will stay the same. Dan thinks Frank vs. Kara is the best he could do given the circumstances. Boogie says they need an HoH next week. Ian joins the convo and announces he is the first 90's born person to do BB in the US.

(sorry, forgot to log in and can't edit my posts above) K & D continue to talk and K decides that Janelle and Brittany's teams are working together. K says she just has to make it through Thursday. K wants something geared to girls so they can kick their (the boys) asses. Shane enters to the bathroom. Game talk ceases for now, and talk turns to the veto competition and K & D said they did terrible. K & D inform Shane that Frank was leading for most of the veto. Shane is surprised by this and thinks "that's crazy." Shane on slop can't wait to eat real food. D says she's going to cook them whatever they want. They're already talking about wanting luxury competitions. They believe the veto ceremony is tomorrow (going from past seasons, the veto ceremony is on Monday) They discuss that they've been in the house for a week already and FISH. Girls talk about how they were drowning in suds during the POV comp, and Kara was walking around like a blind person. Ian joins. K wishes she had done better. POV was laundry with washing machines, and something to do with coins, money and laundry baskets.

I thought this would be kinda interesting, sorry if it's been discussed before! Anyway I was in a chat on the live feeds during season 4, and I asked someone who had won the veto.. or been nominated..something to that effect. They told me so and so had been nominated but for up to minute things, check out mortys! They gave me the URL and I have never looked back. I only post at one other BB board "in season" but this is by far my favorite, and most comprehensive of them all. How about the rest of you?

and wasn't it janelles idea?

ivette said only one round for her

well you all have convinced me to turn on my feeds.

I think it's amusing that we gave the producers so much credit. we all had theories of other rooms, a larger jury, HGs being sequested in the house, all hgs being connected by a link, people who know more then one other person, theories on the 3-17, etc. It's actually really funny how pathetic this season is when you compare it with things that could have been.

I was hoping the last safe would be somewhat interesting, but its probably just something someone will win that will have no effect on the game