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2 hours ago, omahaguy said:

 

Late last night Sam talking to Rockstar saying that she thinks Brett has been the one making fun of her (if he has, I've missed it). She also has a crush on Brett and thinks that it might be mutual (If he does, that's another thing that I've missed). Sam feels that Brett only flirts with the other girls to make her jealous. 

 

At the start of this season, Sam was one of my favorites. But after the way she's acted the past few days she's now near the bottom.

 

 

As you put 2 and 2 together, you realize why she attacked Haleigh and Kaitlyn in her nom speech. They were seen as competition to her having a showmance. 

6 hours ago, CrazyBBFan said:

I gave too much credit to Tyler's gameplay.  I thought he was on the level of Dan, Derrick and Vanessa.  If you come up with stories throwing people under the bus, you don't suppose to get blood on your hands.   All he had to do was apologize to Bay and play fake nice to her and her friends.  After the HOH comp, he was telling all of L6 to talk to her about keeping him off the block.  The members of L6 do not know about his power but Sam does.  L6 now wants her to replace one of them with Sam who can blow up Tyler's game.  

I think a lot of people gave Tyler way too much credit for his gameplay. He's playing the best game when you compare it to the people from this season. But, he's looking good because he really hasn't had to play yet. You go back over the game and there's been a lot of game that has just fallen in his lap and he's really haven't had to face any real adversity yet. He's made a couple of good moves by getting the psycho or psychic to backdoor her own alliance member early in the game and he did a good job of working Sam early on, but neither of them were good players and allowed him to have control of their HOH's. But, let's see what happens if he ever ends up on the bottom side of the numbers and he's sitting on the block after veto.  

5 hours ago, CrazyBBFan said:

So glad that she is on the block.  Your main goal of HOH is to making deals with everyone in the house and securing jury votes.  Even on the block, she making the same mistake Angela made by protecting L6 over her own game.   

I am assuming you meant Rachel, but yeah, IMO she failed to improve her standing in the game by really improving her position with the opposing player and securing her safety for a couple of weeks. 

4 hours ago, CrazyBBFan said:

Sam is not a member to L6.  Sam do not even know about L6.  Which person is being unfair Sam or Tyler?  Tyler could have made Sam a part of L6 along time ago but, he did not want to give her that protection.   If he trusted her enough to reveal his power app, why did he not trust her enough to tell her about L6?

Tyler didn't tell Sam anything because Sam was supposed to be his Victoria. However, as lame as Victoria was, she knew more about how to play the game than Sam. IMO, she is more dead weight than Victoria was.  

7 minutes ago, HeleneL said:

You read my mind.  ITA.  Had to rewind and listen again because I couldn't believe she had just said that.  I never really took a liking to her because she's too cute, perky and "nice" to play this game.  When you play and live in those conditions for that amount of money it's not summer camp.  It's dog eat dog and clawing your way to the end  while being subtle about it.  They may string her along as pawn but they'll have to be careful; if they wait to long to get her out she just might win by default. 

I don't think she can win unless two other hated people make it to the f3. I don't think the other HG see her as a game player, she just someone who's in the house. And, I really think that let her win thing probably lower her standing among the people in the house. She made herself look like a joke.

6 minutes ago, Keepittogether said:

I like the hacker twist.  It may be the only thing that  can equalize the power in the house.  And I say that as someone that doesn't really like one particular side of the house over the other.  I prefer certain players, but not a specific side.  And in my opinion, the game isn't really as fun to watch if one side completely dominates the other.  Or if one person completely dominates the game and everyone else just does their bidding and everyone defers to them each week.  While I enjoyed how crafty Derricks game play was for example, the overall game that season was kind of boring.  One of the most fun seasons to watch, (to me), was when Janelle kept coming back and winning HOH's after everyone counted her out.  So, personally I'm all for a hack that will help to keep all the houseguests guessing and keep the power bouncing back and forth from side to side.

 

For all the BB purists out there, (which I  consider myself to be ), the game will never go back to how it used to be in it's original simplistic format.  The only way they can continue to get viewers - especially in the golden 18-35 age range - it to keep it technologically savvy and keep us guessing.

I like balanced sides also and I also agree that Janelle's first season was the best. I think I like that season because strategy was thrown out the window and it was just pure in your face disdain for the other side. And, keeping it even was what made the season great. But, I don't like twist that gives too much power to one person. I like the twist that can tweak the game but not dominate. 

As boring as the game is for me, if Bay is voted out, I will be looking at at least a month of complete boredom in the game. 

1 hour ago, WOC said:

 

I don't think she has a clue. She's a nice person and that will be why she get voted out. She wants to be at camp and roast marshmallows while catching lighting bugs and making wicker baskets. The real players want to pillage their way to big money.

I thought her "everyone should refuse to play and let me win the hacker challenge" was about the dumbest thing I ever heard on BB. Her voice as the robot in the first week was kinda cute and all, but now, her voice just grates on my nerves. Every since her HOH, I have been ready for her to go. 

3 hours ago, BBLover4ever said:

I was thinking how mean she was on Rachel's good bye message!  She didn't have to be like that, especially to an alliance member. I rather Brett stayed, but Rachel did tell Angela about Bay's power and she did run to Angela with Bay's lie about Tyler. BUT, Rachel did cry a lot about the L6 alliance. I'm just happy Angela is saving Tyler

I think when you trash a person when they are on the way out the game, it really says something about your own character. You can't chalk it up to gameplay because there's absolutely nothing to be gained by it in the game. It made Angela look even worse because she was trashing the person who absolutely believed in their F2 deal. and was trying to help her.

3 hours ago, BBLover4ever said:

She is the Hacker and she gets to replace one nominee, pick a veto player AND steal a vote. Way too much power on this IMO. HOH is really nothing with this power.

I kinda like the hacker twist, but I agree it is way to much power for it. The hacker should have been allowed to use one of the three options.

5 hours ago, BBLover4ever said:

I don’t understand her picking Kaycee to play veto if she wants Tyler out. Unless she thinks she would take down RS cause of the girls alliance. Hope she goes soon. She is playing Fesse now. She gets what she deserves now, clinging.controlling. Etc 

My understanding is that she picked JC so that no one would suspect her. It makes it look like someone in  L6. But they all believe it is Bay. 

3 minutes ago, Keepittogether said:

If Bayleigh had shut up about her power and not told Rachel, everyone wouldn’t know about it and she probably wouldn’t about to be backdoored. Dumb move. I don’t think even the people in L6 know about Tyler’s power app. And it’s that kind of good judgement that’s going to take him far in the game. 

She would still be on the verge of being backdoored but you are right, they talk too much. 

1 hour ago, graceomalley said:

exactly! - especially with this group - the majority has diarrhea of the mouth in that house! - he is wise not to tell anyone -  

If you tell one person, you just as well stand in the kitchen and yell it out for everyone to hear, that way 2 minutes will be saved. 

2 hours ago, Hikiki said:

To another member of her alliance. Rachel had totally turned against Tyler and even their alliance by then. She had sworn loyalty to Bailey. Angela annoys me, but I don’t think she did anything wrong. They had to get out one member of their alliance at this point so why not get out the person whose loyalty was most questionable?

I know we are not going to see things the same way on this, but I didn't see where Rachael had turned her back on her alliance. She had spent some time trying to find a way to get the target off of Brett and on to someone else, while she herself was on the block. As to swearing her alliance to Bay, how many people haven't done that over the years. About half the people who play the game swear their allegiance or agree to work with the HOH and that all changes as soon as the power changes. IMHO, Angela was just looking for an excuse to sell Racheal out. She knew that going to Tyler would be a death sentence for Rachael since she was sitting on the block.

A good portion of "reality" tv is scripted. I am pretty sure this Swaggy C meets the parents was scripted TV, from the cloths to the dramatic dressing up to the drive over to his exaggerated knock on the door.  I suspect they had already talked before this "first" meeting on tv. 

10 hours ago, Hikiki said:

 

I heard it like Kspen did. He basically went, ‘if I did use the veto, Angela would be the one to go up?’ It sounded like he was feeling her out.

 

Bayleigh somehow turned that into: Tyler said he will only use the veto if Angela goes up because he wants women out. We should do a women’s alliance since there are more of us and guys like Tyler don’t want us to do that.

 

Of course, I don’t really blame Bayleigh for trying. She’s down in numbers and trying to change that course. 

 

Rachel was super quick to believe Bayleigh though, which was her ultimate downfall, because it rang false with the other women in their alliance.

Here is the way I see it differently from you and Kspen,  Rachel and Angela were supposed to be besties and they had a f2. Rachel, while being on the block gets word from the current HOH that the guy most sees as the leader of L6 dropped Angela's name as the replacement nominee. Rachel, as I think most people would do, went to her bestie and F2 partner and warned her that Tyler dropped her name to the HOH as the possible replacement nominee. Angela, without digesting and processing the information she was told, ran straight to Tyler. What was Tyler supposed to say, "yeah I dropped your name" to feel her out? That would be a dead give away that you are the expendable person in the alliance. If she wanted to check it out, Baleigh should have been the first person she went to, to find out what was said and how it came up. Also, if they were supposed to be F2, why did Angela immediately feel like Rachel was lying?

Lastly, I still believe she deserved to go because she was more loyal to the alliance than she was to her own game. She tried to get the target off of Brett while she was sitting on the block, But as to her situation with Angela, she tried to help Angela and Angela sold her out without a second thought.  

54 minutes ago, Hikiki said:

 

She didn’t believe what Rachel said so she didn’t trust it. It wasn’t to be trusted, but Bayleigh was the liar not Rachel, who was the only one to believe the lie. If she thinks Rachel is lying to her is she supposed to just ignore it for the sake of Sisterhood? I think women can be good friends with men and women. 

 

I dont really care for her though. 

Tyler did suggest that Angela could be the replacement didn't he?

18 minutes ago, CrazyBBFan said:

She is just another person Tyler can use to win the game.  

Another female that at the first sign of trouble she sells her girlfriend out to a guy. The women have the men outnumbered right now, but at the end of the game, the f3 will be 2 guys and 1 woman unless the guy decides he wants to go against 2 women.

34 minutes ago, CrazyBBFan said:

Paul had Christmas and Tyler has Kaycee.  If she does not wise up fast, she's going to be sitting on the couch losing to Tyler.

One of the drawbacks to laying low and not drawing attention to yourself is you are not gaining any credit for gameplay and you end up facing the jury with no resume. 

33 minutes ago, CrazyBBFan said:

Rachel biggest mistake was being loyal to Brett and LV6.  The price you pay for not keeping your mouth shut is being voted out by all your friends.

ITA. She never recognized or understood that she was at or near the bottom of the alliance and that she was expendable. 

He's still playing the best game. He's involved in everything and everyone trust him. 

He may have one of the weakest games I have seen in a while. he's a real disappointment. he doesn't have any real strategy that I can see and he's just bumbling along without a clue of what's happening around him.

I don't like Brett, but this idiot needs to go. If you are on the block and the other person is the target, it is stupid to go up and advocate to remove the target from the other person, because that leaves you as the target. 

I still haven't formed opinions about most of the players, but I don't like this kid. He's too arrogant and rubs me the wrong way.

1 hour ago, WOC said:

 

I don't think backdooring him got her evicted. The numbers were on board with that. IMHO, what got her evicted was her own stupid behavior. The nagging, mind games, the boo-hoo'ing for sympathy did her in. If she would have been cool last week she would have probably stayed. But that's just my opinion.

 

Of course with Bay as HOH the backdooring of swagless might have done her in this week.

If she would have gone after someone in L6 and got them out, Swaggy would have still been there as a primary target when Sam became HOH. Sam may have still put her up because she "didn't like the way they were playing the game", but I think the dynamics in the house would have been different.