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Well CBS comes through for Jordan again, riding someone else's coattails and screwing over a more deserving player, how pathetic. How many twists to affect the game in one season CBS? Next time Jordan or her immediate alliance member is in trouble are you going to throw in the fortune teller twist to save them once again? Shelly made a play and deserved better than some twist sending her home and someone like Jordan being safe.

My question to you is who is the more deserving pair? Porscha and Kahlia? Until this week those two haven't done a thing for themselves. Porscha coasted the entire season and Dani ran Kahlia until she (Dani) was evicted. Adam and Shelly? More coasting...in my opinion. Rachel is the ONLY PLAYER that has fought the entire house against incredible odds. She's like a cat with nine lives and SHE saved Jordan, not CBS.

Rachel and Jordan should take her cigarettes....tell her to return the dog and nobody gets hurt!! She's on the brink....all it will take is a tiny push and they may as well bring in the strait jacket.

Yes! Shelly needs to return Rachel's dog and take back the comment about cutting off its legs and painting it with red nail polish. After all, stealing and threatening someone else's property isnt something a person of high moral and character would do.

Shelly is in deep denial until the rest of the world gives her a reality check.....I just hope she does not end up on the next season of Celebrity Rehab

....just like the poor girl from CBS Survivor that left the show and tried to commit suicide.They knew she had deep issues by her own admition.

Good point. And it just occurred to me that Shelly may be doing all this tonight in an effort to get some good tv time for America's Favorite Player ($$$$) - since she knows she's out of the house on Thursday.

When I think of some of the great lies told in BB in past years, of course the inimitable Dr. Will comes to mind. Yet, he told people all along that he would be lying and he did keep it about the game and he did not get so extremely personal. Now, we have Shelly. Tearful Shelly in the DR how she will never forget what that angel Jordan did for her. Spiteful Shelly who claims Rachel is being hard on her but is so blatantly taunting Rachel about Jeff's successes. Others have mentioned the theft of personal items and threats to destroy them.

This is a whole new level of lying and is not just game; it is very personal. Too bad Shelly could not see the clip a few weeks ago when they were filming Josie and her dad and Josie said, "She needs to not keep lying so much."

Out of the mouths of babes.

Um - not to mention that Dr. Will laughed at his own lies in the DR and let the audience in on the fact that he KNEW he was a big, fat, deceitful, liar. He made it fun. Shelly is serious - and she doesnt think she has done anything wrong. She thinks she is a classy, honest, player that has maintained her character and she can walk with her head held high. Oh dear.

Shelly just told Kahlia not to play the game personally - as she isnt. I have to ask, if this isnt personal, Shelly, why are you talking about Rachel's reputation outside of the house? This woman is SUCH A HYPOCRITE! It really irritates me. That is all. Now she's selling Kahlia on how classy she is, how classy she played the game, how she can leave the house with her head held high and how no one will vote for Rachel because she is so hated by everyone in the house. Gee - that sounds personal to me?

Has she tried to turn the picture on the wall of the skull? The fortune teller has a crystal ball in front of her with a skull in it. There is a picture of a skull on the wall next to the fortune teller. I'm thinking that maybe if you turn that picture, it will start the machine?

I'm still trying to figure out the fortune teller - ha. Also noticed that underneath the picture of the skull, there is a light that looks like a crystal ball. I'm telling you, there is a clue over there. Hoping, if I'm right, Rachel or Jordan figure this out and NOT Shelly!

Has she tried to turn the picture on the wall of the skull? The fortune teller has a crystal ball in front of her with a skull in it. There is a picture of a skull on the wall next to the fortune teller. I'm thinking that maybe if you turn that picture, it will start the machine?

Rachel is not the meanest of them all by far. She cries when she doesn't win true, and she has been known to lash out when she feels threatened with a catty comment or two, but she doesn't sit around doing NOTHING ELSE but bash other people. She is not mean imo.

While we're on the subject of mean .. these "mean girls" you are defending are STEALING her dog and hiding it from her. In that house you latch on to the few things you have from home which remind you of home .. and if people take it, it is the height of disrespect.

Shelly, who cuddles her bear or whatever from her daughter so preciously said she wanted to take Rachel's puppy, cut it's leg off and pain it with nail polish to look like blood.

But Rachel's the mean one?

Yeah right...

Get a reality check!

Agree with you, Casper.

I don't like Shelly, either. I didn't like Britney, didn't like Natalie, didn't like Ivette, didn't like Alison, didn't like Jun, didn't like Maggie. All needlessly mean (including Shelly), in my opinion. We've had some mean-ass men, too, but this is about women; specifically. I said in the very beginning that I found Shelly to be odd. It had nothing to do with her being overtly masculine. I just did not trust her. She came on way too strong. Shelly is loud, aggressive, tacky. I suppose that she hand-picked Jeff and Jordan. Easy pickings, to be sure. It could and would have been someone else had they not been in the game. It is clearly Shelly's game but I don't think that she planned on liking them and it is going to cost her with votes, most likely, if she manages to sit before the jury. I would never, ever, ever vote for Shelly to win BB13.

Question: of no importance but just curious.......are shelly's lips enlarged cosmetically?

You and I could be friends. I didnt like Britney, Natalie, Ivette, Alison, Jun and especially Maggie. All needlessly mean. Shelly AND Kahlia should be added to this list, in my opinion. I understand the need to vent when things go against one in the house, but these ladies were/are ruthless - nauseating, and hard to watch. So yeah, I dont think Shelly will end up having the votes in the end should she make it to the final two. At least I hope not. I cant forget that Maggie and some of those other witches won their seasons with all their bad behavior.

Dani also respects this game and went out with class and her head held high. Big Jeff went out bitter as cat chit.

I dont think Dani went out with class...however, she did hold her BIG head up. Glad she's gone.

I was a Dani fan in the beginning and I thought she was playing a great game...until she got sidetracked by Dominic. Then her game went downhill and now she's turned into Brittany without the humor. I dont like her at all and I hope tomorrow she's outta there. I can barely watch the feeds because of her. She's depressing.

Brendon is a assclown.... the way he is talking to Rach on the feeds gets me angry. He is a controlling, verbally abusive jerk... if she doesn't leave him she is an idiot.

He told her she has a "Big F****** Mouth"... maybe she does BUT he is a rude jerk...

I actually agree with Brendon on this one. He knows his arse is on the line this week and he was trying to work Adam. Rachel kept interjecting and screwing up his attempt to sway Adam with ridiculous comments. Rachel is a handful and she is sort of clueless as to how to handle the social part of the game. Dont get me wrong, I'm a huge Rachel fan but Brendon is frustrated with Rachel because she is so socially inept. Jeff was doing the same thing with Jordan last night. I think Brendon and Jeff need to team up and dump their counterparts.

WELL, I've gone from super happy back down to super upset. I cannot believe Brendon got voted back in the house ( that makes me happy) but now Dani is HOH - (somebody just shoot me)

I cant take this roller coaster ride two weeks in a row!!!! they need to slow it down!!

OMG - BB has to show the conversation that Lawon just had with Dani and Porscha. I thought I was the only one that had no idea what he was talking about but when he left the room the girls started cracking up. It was hilarious! They think he's on crack because he made absolutely NO SENSE! HAHAHAHA - THAT WAS FUNNY!

And Lawon is the only one that is on to Shelly. He just tried to convince Dani that Shelly is working with the other side and Dani told him he was wrong.

Interesting.

Rachel is compelling tv. If you like her or you hate her, you watch and talk about her.

Agreed. Love her or hate her - she is one of the most watchable house guests.

oh come on. CBS manipulated the show to make Cassie look like a princess. I have the feeds and I can tell you that it was quite the opposite. She knows how to play for a camera but Rachel had her figured out pretty quick.

(P.S. Go look at the You Tube clip of Cassie and her country western boyfriend - sorry, cant remember his name. Her attitude is what got her dumped from him and exactly what Rachel was able to see pretty early on. Rachel doesnt get much credit here but the girl is intuitive and smart. She saw through Cassie and it was a smart move to get rid of her.) Go Rachel!

All of this "Rachel is jealous .. they're targeting her for being pretty.." is such BS.

Remember last week anyone? When Jeff/Jordan Rachel/Brenden wanted to strike a deal with Cassie and Shelly to be part of their alliance .. and Cassie basically said "I know I'm going to be the low man on the totem pull in that kind of deal .. so I have concerns..."

Remember again when the vets ALL agreed (not just Rachel) that Cassie and Dominic were CLEARLY working together because they both came up to the HOH and were BOTH saying the same thing in the exact same way (that the vets were their targets in so many words).

THEY ALL DECIDED to split up Dominic and Cassie. They decided to gun for Dominic first and he represented a stronger physical threat to them, they felt in competitions.

Then Cassie had a skirmish with Porsche (someone the vets had decided to keep as a side member of their alliance).

Then Cassie was being anti-social and refusing to take group pictures in the HOH.

Then when Rachel addressed the entire group of the non vets (ill advised, but she was not just targeting Cassie), CASSIE jumped in the frey with Rachel deciding to be the spokes person for her "side". (OTHERWISE KNOWN AS MAKING HERSELF A TARGET)

Sure Rachel didn't need to feel the need to stick it to the other side .. but Rachel is Rachel and she gloats sometimes when she shouldn't. But since they vets had a solid alliance, the behavior of the newbies was ill-advised. When you're in the big brother house, you kiss the ring of the "pope" when really you'd like to slit his throat. It's what you do. It's the way of things, Cassie wasn't playing along.

For ALL of these reasons she needs to get out the door. And it irks me to no end that the Vets are blaming all of this on Rachel as if THEY had no hand in this decision when they clearly DID.

It drives me nuts as a Rachel fan listening to everyone saying "she's only targeting the girls" as if there was no strategic reason behind it as well. I'm not saying that Rachel has never had a self conscious or insecure thought about Cassie, cause I'm not in her head and I don't know what she thinks, but it isn't the only reason .. in fact I would guess it's not even a pretty big reason.

And from what I have read .. Cassie IS jealous of Rachel. She has made comments several times about how she can't believe Brenden is with Rachel .. and how SHE (Cassie) doesn't even have a boyfriend..

So there you go for that one. I would hazard a guess they are BOTH jealous of each other.

I love Rachel, and I always will because at least she speaks her mind. Even if god help her, it gets her in trouble. I am sick of people vilifying her, where there is no villain. I just know that's how it's going to be shown on CBS and it annoys me. Jeff and Jordan - Jeff in specific wanted Shelly and Cassie on their side. Because Cassie and Shelly both had the stars in their eyes view of them. When Cassie said what she said to prove she was with Dominic .. Jeff was upset they couldn't pick her up for their side, because it would of been a partnership which would of benefited them and not the other members of their alliance.. but them alone -- because clearly it's better for Danielle if Dominic stays.. and clearly Porsche is more likely to align with Brenchel/Danielle because Porsche worshiped Evil Dick and Rachel.

Rachel was so upset Cassie was spending all that time with Jordon, not because she doesn't want Jordon to have any friends, but because Jordon has a soft heart, and Rachel knew that Cassie was going to try to turn her against the rest of her alliance. That being said it's human nature for Dani to want Dom in her back pocket, Rachel and Bren to want Porshe in their back pocket and Jeff and Jordan to have wanted Cassie n Shelly in theirs. Just as it's human nature for all sides of this alliance to not want the others to have this back pocket person. It's selfish .. on each person's side.

I just don't think it's an excuse worthy of Jeff and Jordon turning on Brenden and Rachel .. they all agreed to get dom or cassie out this week. It just so happens that Dom got the POV. They shouldn't be taking it out on the rest of their alliance mates because she has to go home. I know that Rachel mouthed off about Jordon in the POV contest .. but Rachel and Brenden were trying hard for the veto .. and Rachel felt that Jeff and Jordon weren't trying as hard.. which of course is going to upset her .. because it's going to make it seem like Rachel and Brenden are the biggest targets NOT Jeff and Jordon if they have only one an HOH and Brenden and Rachel have won both a POV and an HOH. Rachel had every right to feel like she was being back stabbed. And rightly so. She already felt before the comp like Jeff and Jordon's allegiance wasn't with their alliance, it was to furthering themselves..

Finally, a post I can relate to! Thank you for posting this. After reading all the comments in this thread I was beginning to think I was watching a different set of feeds!

I was on Joker's Updates and looked at pics of area.  The hills are rolling hills, grape vines and hot air balloons much like Santa Ynez, Los Olivos area of CA.

I go to that area wine tasting every three or four months and was just up in that area last Sunday.  When I saw the pictures, it clicked. 

Could be Napa area also.  I haven't been there in years.  They also have the hot air balloons though.

Dang it!  I meant wine country, not wind country.  LOL

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We were talking about this on a feed chat last night. Someone said the sequester house is just north of Valencia, Calif. Not in wine country but much closer to Studio City - where the BB house is.

Ivette's head would explode into a million ugly pieces if Janelle won because America helped choose her.

Ahhhh - a great season finale. Janelle wins and Ivette's head explodes.

The only scenario that could top that would be seeing Janelle win and then the entire nerd herd drinking their kool-aid on cue while looking into the camera and saying BYE BYE AMERICA!

I think the Biggest Secret Yet is more likely to be that America gets a choice in the decision.

If it gets down to two or even three - and Janelle is in there, we know who AMERICA will vote for!

Wouldnt that be fun?