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I think you guys due to your disgust for him seriously don't remember things the way i do. Or maybe it's my memory which is flawed... who knows. But from what I remember, Will got quite a lot of ideas from Boogie, but Boogie needed Dr. Will's charm and charisma to carry them out. I have always seen chilltown as Will = Charm Boogie = Brains.

I do think Boogie is a pretty smart guy. His one liability seems to be his ego gets in his way, and he doesn't have the social charms of Dr. Will. This means that more people are on to him/don't trust him so he has a harder road but I do think he's doing a pretty good job as a coach atm.

Smart thinking and I think you are right about that probably!

I like Frank a lot! Might be my favorite person in the house right now! I loved his Chilltown classic DR on tonight's episode with Boogie. That was the best moment on the show tonight!

I must be the only one that likes Joe! I must say I was surprised by his DR when Willie was kicked out. Thought he was going to bad mouth him.

Good bye and good riddance! I will admit Britney wasn't much of a coach in this situation and basically just gave up on one of her players, but still this guy has serious anger issues. Bottom line Big Brother just wasn't his game period!

It might not be cool to another guy but most girls would respect a guy who didn't consider sex to be a casual occurrence, imo. Kudos to Ian. Self-control and intelligent choices are what sets us apart from animals.

Well said! I agree that its something you may not want to put out on national TV, but I definitely kudos him as well. I was the same way as him until I lost mine. Always wanted to wait for the right person.

I like Boogie! He isn't Dr. Will by any means who definitely is the brains of Chilltown! But Boogie is an alright player in his own right!

I really like Ian a lot so far!!! I think he is my favorite! I wouldn't mind seeing him and Ashley hook up they might make a cute couple!

Freaking love Dan! He is one of my all time favorites! Won't be quite the same without his renegade partner in crime Memphis though!

Hated her on Season 6 as I was one of the very few Friendship fans! Absolutely loved her on Season 7!!! Hope her team does well!

I really love Britney!!! She was by far my favorite house guest on BB12!!! Its going to be sad not seeing her with Lane though! She is one of the most entertaining and hilarious house guests ever!

Willie's big mistake was saying he is from Louisiana like Russell. I can't believe he didn't lie about where he was from. Then saying I think that Russell guy lived way up north somewhere. Boogie, Janelle, and Dan sniffed that out quickly.

Poor Dan has really got stuck with a bad team I think. He might not be first to go though because I doubt any of his people are targets. Who knows I think the two he has left could sneak to the end. I wouldn't doubt somewhere down the line they may allow the captains to trade members perhaps.

Also anyone catch that on Sunday they are going to be battling for some new power? What is that going to be I wonder?

Decent premiere! I liked some things, disliked others, and am skeptical of some things. Mainly this mentor twist so these four former house guests will basically be never competing in anything outside of maybe food competitions. BORING especially for them I would think. I really hope at some point they just scrape this coach twist and make them official players that would be a lot more exciting I think. I give this coach twist about 3-4 weeks before it is going to get old.

I don't like that someone leaves the first night. That happened in BB9 with Jacob and I didn't care for it. You barely get a chance to know that person. Just seems like a total waste they even showed. Sure it is a shocking twist, but I still don't like it. Even though Jodi is probably just Kalia 2! lol.

Overall though it is still Big Brother and I still love it!

I honestly didn't mind Adam's game moves at all until tonight. Pretty dumb vote if you ask me oh well.

I am so happy Rachel won. Simply put she deserved to win this game period. Like she said either she was on the block or she was HOH pretty much it was simple as that. I said when they voted Jeff out rather then Rachel it was a huge mistake and I was right. That was the turning point in the game for Rachel when she let Jeff get all the blood on his hands for Daniele.

Shelly to me has exonerated herself from my hate. Thanks for putting personal feelings aside and voting pure game play. I still don't like the woman that much, but at least she voted the right way. Rachel and Brendon I think I hate the both of you together on my TV, but I have discovered I really like you both separate.

Simply put congrats Rachel probably the most deserving winner since Dan in BB10.

Will be sad to see Jordo go, but I really hope Rachel stays she deserves to keep playing!!! Plus I am certain Jordo or Jeff will win America's Prize coupled with Jeff's winnings this year and Jordan's win in BB11. I think they have enough money.

Guaranteed Final 3...In fact, if Porsche gets evicted next...she is pretty much a lock for final 2 but I do not see her winning.

I think she beats Adam for sure.

Adam/Jordan final 2

Votes for Jordan: Jeff, Brendon, Rachel, Shelly (most likely), Daniele (maybe), Kalia (likely)

Votes for Adam: Porsche (I do think Porsche and Adam kind of bonded and had a final 2 deal)

That said I just don't see many voting against Jordan she has 3 absolutely lock votes in her vet alliance. I see Shelly voting for her as sort of a way to payback getting rid of Jeff kind of a sympathy vote. Daniele seems to think Adam is one of the worst players ever can't see her voting for him. Kalia seems to think Adam is completely spineless as well and that he is really responsible for her eviction. I just don't see Jordan losing unless the newbies + Dani somehow band together.

Jordan/Rachel final 2

Votes for Jordan: Jeff, Shelly

Votes for Rachel: Brendon, Porsche

Toss up's: Adam, Dani, and Kalia

This one is a tougher one for me I really see obvious votes of Jeff voting for his girl and Brendon voting for his girl. This could make for a really interesting jury debating in the finale as Jeff/Brendon battle it out. I see Shelly voting for Jordan again as a sympathy vote for Jeff also because she despises Rachel. If she votes Rachel I will official lose any small shred of like I have for Shelly which I think might be non existent anyways. Again I think Porsche votes for anyone who is up against Jordan.

Now let me say one thing I think it would be a crying shame if Rachel lost against anybody she has played the best game this season and would deserve to win against anyone I think. Unless Jordan somehow wins this final POV and final HOH I don't see why Jordan should get any votes really. That said Dani, and Kalia have had there history with Rachel as well I do think they will vote game wise and not personal, but you never know. Not sure who Adam votes for in this situation I think possibly Jordan.

Hey Shelly how did karma taste. You know I wanted to try to maybe reconcile with you, but then the whole fake ring bullshit was just it for me. You really will go to no lengths to win this game. So glad you are gone and you deserve to be sitting there.

I said last week you were a total idiot to make that move so soon and I was right!

On the block and going home!!! Thursday is going to be sweet and then next Thursday when we see the jury house will be extra sweet too!!!

Can't wait to see Jeff's face when Shelly joins him in jury!!!!

Karma's a real bitch ain't Shelly!!! Can't wait for Thursday to see you leave it will be sweet sweet vindication.

Wait until you get out of the house and realize America hates you!!! Sorry, but you were a complete idiot to flip last week and just go very very lucky Kalia and Porsche could win competitions.

You can think you can leave with integrity and dignity give me a break. You have no shred of that at all.

Ever hear of karma Shelly? I heard it's a real bitch!! Hopefully it will be biting you in the ass soon!!

I'm not a Shelly fan by ANY stretch of the imagination. However, Jeff began to believe his own hype, which led to his downfall. He got so used to being able to steamroll everyone in the house that he felt invincible. Well, he wasn't.

Jordan has such an infantile intellect that she's shocked that Shelly "betrayed" her. How is it a betrayal? Would Jordan have saved Shelly over Jeff? No! This was the perfect opportunity to get Jeff out. He didn't have enough time to bully people into keeping him.

Shelly isn't ruthless. She's finally realizing that it's time to play the game.

Jordan should just DOR. No one is forcing her to stay. She won $500K not that long ago. Bah! Sick of the "poor me" thing.

How many times has Jordan been the one there to pick Shelly up when she is down. Jordan gave Shelly perhaps the best gift of all to her the phone call and got stuck with the humilitard. Not only that Jordan and Jeff have always had Shelly's back from the get go. They probably could of easily sent her home last week instead. I am certain if they wanted to vote out her out they could of convinced Adam to go with them.

I am sorry, but personally I think this was quite possibly one of the dumbest moves ever in the game, however it won't go down that way. Because she lucked out big time that Kali and Porsche won big competitions to save her ass. If it goes the other way around her ass could of easily been out the door. And she goes from the alliance that was riding high on top of the game with a big numbers advantage. To weaker alliance and out of the game.

She took a big risk and very luckily for her it paid off. That said she is still in the same position basically not really a chance to beat any of the others left in final 2. Also not likely to be chosen by anyone to go to final 2 as well.

So I guess the question here is would you rather fight against your friends and lose? Or would you rather fight against people who didn't care about you at all most of the game and probably still don't care that much about you and lose? I would much rather lose to my friends and people I like. Rather then lose to fake friends/enemies.

In hindsight kind of wish he would of stayed over Shelly!

Really? I didnt like her in season 8 U sure you didnt like her just because of her father? I know the main reason I didnt liker in season 8 was because of her father

Starting to think it could be a possibility. I didn't hate her this season. She was just always against my side of the house. I didn't mind at all when she was kicking Brendon out though too much. My dream from the get go of this season was Dick, Daniele, Jeff, and Jordan final 4 with possibly Shelly as the tag along.

Season 8 to me will always be the best it just hasn't been topped yet. I loved the Donatos so much. Watching them lie, cheat, and steal to the end was enjoyable for me. And watching a father daughter reunite was cool even though it appears it definitely didn't last sadly.

This season to me is kind of forever tainted due to Dick leaving. I just wonder how things would be different and I personally feel the Donatos would of made there way to final 2 again. Dick & Dani together could of outplayed all these people I think.

At this point I would love to swap out everyone of these noobs left for the worst alliance ever The Regulators lol. It would definitely be more entertaining!

And get out of here those who said he played to the best of his abilities. He screwed up his game within 2 hours by fighting with Shelly! the Jeff fans say Dani played a bad game? Since the golden keys were gone her side won HOH 5 times and Jeff's side 1!

And seriously I dont like Jeff bur I never thought he would fight with Shelly before the HOH tonite. That is what screwed him the most

Shelly had already flipped anyways. Blowing up at her didn't really matter at that point. He ultimately got screwed by the big move syndrome in my book. He took out the big fish Daniele and then who becomes the big fish him. It's how this game works unfortunately and a lot of times the best player or players never win because of it.