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Duggar Family Expecting 19th Freaking Child!

Sometimes, 18 kids is simply not enough, so Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar of Tonitown, Ark., are expecting a new addition to their household this spring.

That's right, at that point they will have five more children than Nadya "Octomom" Suleman and 11 more children than Jon and Kate Gosselin. Wow.

"We are so thrilled," says Michelle, 42. "We just can't believe it is happening."

You can't, Michelle? Not after the previous 18 times you were pregnant?

Her husband, Jim Bob Duggar, 44, agrees: "I never gets old. We are so grateful for each child. We look forward to our first grand baby and 19th child."

Their first grandchild is due soon, as their oldest son Joshua, 21, is apparently getting a fast start in joining the family profession of making humans.

He and his wife are expecting a daughter next month, who will be older than her new aunt or uncle: "I think it is going to be awesome," Josh said.

THAT'S A LOTTA KIDS: The Duggar family is still growing, too.

Ridiculous as it seems to have 19 children, at least the Duggars live debt-free (cough, Octomom) in a house they built themselves with their kids.

Their names all begin with J, naturally. Yep, all 18 of them.

There's Joshua, twins Jana and John-David, 19; Jill, 18; Jessa, 16; Jinger, 15; Joseph, 14; Josiah, 13; Joy-Anna, 11; twins Jedidiah and Jeremiah, 10; Jason, 9; James, 8; Justin, 6; Jackson, 5; Johanna, 3; Jennifer, 2, and Jordyn-Grace, 8 months.

Eat your hearts out, Kim, Khloe and Kourtney Kardashian.

Like Jon and Kate Plus 8, the Duggar family's TLC series, 18 Kids and Counting, may have to be renamed in light of these recent life-changing events.

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You know how when you are scolding your child and you blurt out the wrong name and then get flustered and keep blurting out wrong names? Imagine what that is like at their house

Joshua, er Jana, I mean John-David, ugh Jill, crap Jessa, damn it Jinger, um Joseph, oh hell - YOU RIGHT THERE (pointing finger) :animated_rotfl:

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I think this is awful. Not as bad as octomom, but getting close.

Why it's not as bad, is because they obviously wanted a large family. I'm not sure at what point they started their show, or started thinking 'hmm -- maybe if we have the obscenely huge family, maybe we will get famous', but it seems to me like having babies has become less about creating a new life, than getting more attention for their family.

I wouldn't really care if people wanted that large of a family. There are probably other families out there who live like the Duggars do. ( not that I can claim to know much, since I don't watch the show).

Aren't they religious? Don't they limit tv time, and what they watch on tv?

The kids are home schooled and most likely somewhat sheltered from the real world.

I'm really not trying to criticize that, or make a statement as to if that is an appropriate way to raise children. I have an opinion, but I try to keep my nose out of other people's business.

But they supposedly live this certain lifestyle, far from main stream America. And yet they allow themselves to be filmed, just like your average fame-you-know-what, on any other reality type show.

Seems hypocritical, and a sell out.

I have no respect for the parents, and feel bad for the kids. Either stand behind your lifestyle, and live it. Or cut the crap.

On a more petty note-- can't stand the wife's voice. How could anyone stand to listen to that for very long? And all the J names annoy me. It even kind of annoys me, when someone only has 3 or 4 kids, and they all start with the same letter. So this is beyond annoying. Also, the dad's name is Jim Bob. Oh for John-Boy's sake! What adult male would allow people to call him Jim Bob, if you're not living on Walton's mountain during the Great Depression.

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I agree-- get off the TV. I think it's ridiculous for them to have their own show, but that I can simply choose not to watch. It's the coverage they get from the Today show, and other media that irritates me.

They had a big frickin' deal on the Today show to announce the sex of the grandchild. I was just innocently starting my day, and expecting the normal Today show 'infotainment', or whatever you might call it. Maybe a bit of news, a bit of fluff, a bit of weather...

But then this segment came on, and they made such a big deal about it, but I could not figure out why I, or anyone, was supposed to care. ( aside from immediate family). It annoyed me so much, partly because this family annoys me, and also because it was such a non event -- I couldn't believe it.

People all over the world are finding out they're expecting, finding out the sex of their child, finding out all kinds of amazing wonderful, or maybe not so wonderful things, every single day. So why is it national news worthy to cover the freakin' Duggers?

And of course, baby 19's announcement made big news too.

I don't want to see them anymore. I hate that I know that they have a daughter named Ginger, but they have to spell it Jinger, because of their stupid 'J' issue. Why do I know that? I don't care about these people, and I don't want anymore of them taking up my limited brain space.

Stop shoving them down our throats.

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My 16 year old said something about this family -- he said the kids are 'manufactured'. He meant because the parents are so controlling about what they expose this kids to -- it's like they are controlling their personalities. How can they decide what they like or don't like, if they don't get to see much about the real world?

I'm not really sure what they are or aren't exposed to. But I do have concerns about kids who's parents are so over protective and controlling, that they don't even get a glimpse of what the world has to offer.

And I also the the 'manufactured ' term was kind of appropriate, because it does seem like they are running a baby factory. To me, it seems to have less to do with religion, and letting God determine how many children they have, than with 'making hay while the sun shines'. I think they are purposefully keeping the interest in their family up, while people are paying attention. I think they show has some loyal viewers, but I also think more people might be tuning in due to the Jon and Kate fiasco.

Whatever their reasoning, for having more kids, for doing the show, and for raising their kids the way they do ( but really , how else would you raise a brood like that -- they couldn't be involved in outside activities-- there's no way they could get everyone where they needed to go when they needed to go there ), it still gives me the creeps.

Some people fine them admirable. Not me.

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I don't have a problem with them... They aren't on welfare, they don't owe any money on anything they have, including their house, which they paid cash for, they are still together after many years and that many children... They seem like a really nice family... I'm from a really large family too, well, I guess my mom didn't really have that many children, but her mom had 11 and in total I have 67 cousins and 115 second cousins on my mom's side alone, I guess the fact that my mom, my aunt, and my grandmother were all once expecting at the same time, that part doesn't bother me either, of course my uncle is older than my brother and my cousin, but still, and I guess that I grew up in a church sort of like the one they seem to believe in, except they do seem to cut their hair and wear makeup, which we never were allowed to do until older and out of the house, and they do seem to celebrate holidays we weren't allowed to also... I say live and let live, or don't judge lest ye be judged is the best course for me to follow, it's up to each of you to feel how you want and I understand and support you in that right...

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If they weren't doing the tv show, I wouldn't' have a problem with them. I wouldn't agree, but that's why I am raising my children the way I am. I can respect their right to raise their family however they want. But to me it seems like they say one thing, and then do another.

I just can't grasp not letting children watch tv, or limit it severely, and then be on a television show.

I'm sure there are other families like the Duggars, but they are living their lives privately.

A lot of what I hear about the Duggars seems hypocritical to me.

But I also respect that other people have different opinions. And I can see the points their fans make, in that they aren't in debt, are seemingly happy, and a loving family.

It also wouldn't surprise me, if down the road, some of the kids step forward with less that flattering accounts of what life in the Duggar household was really like. It's not that I suspect or am suspicious of anything, but it seems like that is real possibility. Could be one of the kids looking for their own 15 minutes of fame? Or a kid with a genuine complaint?

I don't know, and I really don't hope for that, but there's something about the Duggars that rings insincere with me. Just a gut feeling -- nothing to base it on.

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I need to weigh in again because being Mormon, I know a lot of families like this. The ones who are "heeding God's call to multiply and replenish the Earth"... "providing bodies for those spirits just waiting to get the chance to come here"... They have all these children because to them they are doing what God wants them to do. It's almost like children are worn like jewels at church. I know, I can't believe I'm actually vocalizing that, but I am. Seriously, a baby hanging off your breast might as well be a big freaking diamond ring. And heck, if you have 8 other children sitting beside you, man, you're totally carrying out God's work..good on you.

Meanwhile, like Ivy pointed out, those other children aren't always so joyous. It's a huge sacrifice for them to have that many siblings and a huge responsibility for the older ones who are just expected to pitch in and help parent. How sad that they never had a say in this. I find it quite selfish to be honest with you. I know, how could I think having that many children is selfish when it's such a huge job for the parent?

It's selfish because the other kids aren't enough. It's selfish to take from time you could be giving to them. Selfish that they have to put up with a parent who isn't fully there because she's always pregnant, on bed rest, or coping with a miscarriage (I'm speaking as someone whose watch her friend's oldest child want nothing to do with her because of those reasons) while the dad is out working his @ss off to pay for these children. Selfish because why do they have to come from them to be sacred? Why can't they come from someone else that you adopt?? Ya, they're "spirits who needed a body" as well. So why aren't they good enough for you?

For sure... if you want to have that many children, go for it. I hope your family is happy, healthy (with no disabilities since the chances of them having a disability increases with age), and fully functional. I don't wish ill on anyone. I just think it's excessive and from what I've seen at church with these families, it isn't always what it appears to be. Too add to that, it's interesting to note that those members who had the most kids, are now divorced.

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I have never watched the show and don't know much about his family but I hate when children are exploited. Even if they weren't on TV I would think that 18 or 19 children is way to many and not fair for the children.

heck I feel bad having 3 dogs and worry I don't give them enough attention. I can't imagine with children.

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I think they might be worse than John and Kate.

I don't know what you mean by worse, but the Duggars at least seem to love each other. IMO their marriage has always seemed solid and loving, I don't think Mrs. Duggar would ever treat her husband the way Kate treated Jon. I also don't think they're doing their show for fame like Kate is, I think they're only doing it for the money.

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I think the 'ick' factor comes in, at least for me, because I wonder if they don't keep having kids, in order to keep the show going. I do think they would have a few years of shows, if they did stop having kids. There's always the interest with weddings and grandchildren. I don't know if they are having all these kids because they really really want them, or because they think it will keep people interested.

But anyway, I don't watch the show, so I probably should just keep my mouth shut about them. I do wish I wouldn't have to see all their big announcements splashed across the tv, and on the internet. I don't like them. I know some people do, but I still feel like they are being shoved down our throats.

I think that is why the media covers them too. Because they know some people are like ' aww- how sweet -- what a wonderful family', and others are like 'gross--stop exploiting your family and join the real world'.

And publicity is good publicity, so they say, so I imagine any discussion is good discussion as well.

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They'll keep having them til she either dies in childbirth or can't have anymore.

Once she gives birth, the older children raise the kids, cook, clean and do the chores so it's not like the average family at all where parents raise their children.

I have mixed feelings about this family - like them a lot but not the way they live.

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I probably shouldn't say this, but will instead just clarify that these are my thoughts. There is nothing about what I'm going to say that is based in any type of fact, just my gut feelings.

I always get a 'cult' vibe, when I see these people. Like Jim Bob ( what an idiotic name for an adult) has this desire to father his own little community, and that he would take on more and more wives, and just keep impregnating them. I think it gives him a rush to see all these children that he fathered. Like he is super special... 'Look at what I've created'.

And yes, he did have a part in creating each child. But I can't help but think this guy would love to have a stable of wives to breed. Yes, I know that's a gross way to put it, but that's how I think he might think about it. Which is a big reason why this family gives me the heeby jeebies.

But like I said, these are just my simple thoughts. I'm quite sure I"m wrong -- I hope I am anyway. But I wonder if anyone else kind of gets that vibe from them.

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I grew up in a church like this... What they are doing, I honestly believe is getting the word of God out to the masses in the best way they know how... They are tought to do this from a very early age... Is it a cult, well no, the people in our church were free to come and go as they pleased, and were free to disagree with each other in open and it not cause problems... I no longer hold to these believes from my childhood, but I know where this family is coming from, and no the children aren't always happy, you can't tell me that any family any where is always happy with everything that goes on, but they believe strongly that they have to let God decide how many children they should have... Jim Bob isn't out working, they own property to pay for their lives... I guess I just know where they are coming from, because I grew up in it... My parents started going to the church when I was around 7...

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If they lived privately, it wouldn't bother me quite so much. I would still probably get the 'cult' vibe, but since I probably never would have heard of them, that doesn't really matter.

It does seem hypocritical to me for them to be involved with something as cheesy as a reality tv show.

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