Why Are Bb "fans (!?)" So Judgemental

[GingerSnaps]

Excellent post!

[WickedOne]

<---- Vents on BB HG's after a crappy day. It's theraputic. My witch doctor recommended it.

[Depeche221]

It's like each HG on the show represent a certain type of labelled group "the dumb jock", "the slut" whatever. Often I'll judge and dislike these people for their own ignorance...then somewhere along the line my eyes are opened and I'm caused to see my own.

ElleNaturale, that is one of the best statements I have seen. I totally agree. Very well said.

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[Depeche221]

Moxie and WickedOne also bring up very valid points.

I have to say, I too find it therapeutic to bash certain HG's after a rough day or if something is bothering me. And the fact that it is from the safety of a computer screen seems to make it that much easier.

I do sometimes think afterwards though about the things I have said, both good and bad, and wonder what the reaction of an HG would be when and if they ever saw it. They would be reading it long after the event took place, while I was venting or complimenting in the heat of the moment. Would be interesting to see if they are able to put themselves back in that moment and so they understand or if they totally don't get what I was so worked up about.

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[Yana]

I do sometimes think afterwards though about the things I have said, both good and bad, and wonder what the reaction of an HG would be when and if they ever saw it.

They do read it... Trust me they read these boards... Morty's, Jokers, Sucks, Reality BBQ, and TVGrapevine are the most popular, but they read others too... They also have family that reads these boards while they are in the house... That's why you won't find me saying bad things about any of them... I did say that Libra was lying in her thread (think it was her thread, might have been the daily thread), but it's a game of lying, deceit, and blindsides...

I watch the show and come to this board because I love the drama... You have to admit at times there's as much drama here on this board as there is in that house, and I love to cheer for my favorites and jeer my least favorites...

In a way the show is like a fairytale or a soap opera, and after all doesn't every fairytale and soap opera have a hero and a villain?

[Depeche221]

Yana, I was hoping you would chime in on this one as you have access to the HG's that most of us will never have. I alwasy respect how well you temper your comments to make sure you are as neutral as possible. I know sometimes you are choking back so much, but you are better at self edit than some of us Although, I think I have seen some posts occasionally from you in past seasons where you spoke your mind hehheehhe

I was contacted by a poster who said that there was an underlying depressed tone to my original post in this topic. I went back and read it and I can see that, but that was not the intent at all.

I posted this thread because I am a fan of BB and I enjoy other peoples thoughts and opinions. Many times when I log in I search the threads only to find quick, snarky, one sentence (often with bad grammar and spelling which is a sign of posting without thinking IMHO) responses to things. That is great for many of the topics, but there is only so much "coming up with funny names" or "let's insult so and so" that I can read before I want some actual discussion of BB. There is so much deeper societal stuff going on every season that is not addressed, I just try to provide some substance with the fluff.

I often fail and many could care less, but I try.

Regardless, it wouldn't be summer without BB and Mortys.

Now back to the bashing hehehheh

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[echo]

There is so much deeper societal stuff going on every season that is not addressed

Can you provide an example of what you mean?

When Kid Nation was on last fall, I took a huge exception to the bashing & trashing of little kids as if they were just like any adult who signed up to be on reality TV show. A few just didn't get it: "They're just kids"

[Fatcat]

I was over there from time to time myself in the Kid Nation thread, and people really gave you a hard time Echo.

I have a somewhat different take on this whole BB fest that we have here every summer. I really think that a lot of the posters and members of this board come here for the distraction from their daily lives, we have met and made friends with a lot of different people who have a lot of different views, it is like a little family here at Morty's, dsyfunctional at times like all families, but we come here to chit chat, voice our opinion and bond, it is a social thing. I have been watching BB since the first one but did not find Morty's till season 5 and this place is addicting as the show, Bashing the ones we don't care for I suppose is a natural thing, just like in our life the tendancy to gossip and talk is a natural one. I just can't resist reading what you all think and adding my own take, sometimes it gets mean and over the top, but then we pull ourselves back in because we really like coming here and chatting with our friends. I love the sense of humor a lot of people have, Marty, Gingersnaps, Wicked Reaper, Elle, Mrs F, Erin, Moxie, just to name a few, have the best senses of humor and keep me rollin, it is sooo funny what people will come up with.

I also think it is a way that we look at our own shortcomings by watching these House Guests lie and cheat their way to 500 G's I am sure all of us question ouselves as to whether we would act or react the same way. I will always come here to Morty's and not just for BB, there is the OT thread, and the other shows we watch as well.

[sisu power]

I found Morty's when I finally bought a computer, but I would still be watching the show without the added drama I read about here. I loved the first season that most people found boring. Reading about the darker side of the activities in the house just adds a different dimension. The reactions of the posters is as interesting to read as the actions of the houseguests. You get the same group dynamics happening in the threads as in the house, albeit not as extreme since we aren't -- literally -- in each other's faces.

Sometimes I feel myself feeling sorry for houseguests, knowing that they will find out how they were despised on the message boards, (i.e. Natalie - thought there was something wrong with her) but since it's no secret that those cameras are on them, for the most part I think they signed up for this ...

[Slimcruz]

It is JUDGMENTAL, not JUDGEMENTAL. And.....it is neither to offer an opinion about anyone or anything on any reality television show. People place themselves in that situation willingly and should be prepared to face the consequences. Who cares, anyway? It is simply a diversion from true reality.

[ILoveDaniele]

YES!!! My type of topic! A wonderful place for a windbag from Chicago with a psych degree but no masters!!! :-p

Seriously I am not that conceited

Anyway...to the fun

I cannot express how much I love this topic.

I think there are a few factors here and I am going to start by throwing out a serious caution I will hope everyone reads before attacking me

[caution]This is NOT about anyone here at all. This is merely generalized statements based on what I perceive to be true and I won't pick names because frankly I am guilty as anyone here. IN FACT I will gladly use myself[/caution]

Fishbowl syndrome,which I am sure is not a real term, has most people in the world in its grips. People love to watch people especially behind the scenes. I am willing to bet several people loved when the several sex parties busted out last season just as much as they love the scandal they see today in BB10. The way I see it there are a few different scenarios...

1. Voyeurism as has been already mentioned is huge. Alot of people love to watch what isn't them. Their own lives are ever so familiar and they adore viewing another's whether it disgusts or titilate (sp?) them.

2. Distraction...also mentioned is very important. Many people who aren't fully self-actualized prefer not to look inward because they have been doing so all day. The old say that 'getting is better than having' really holds water for many people. You HAVE yourself to view throughout the years but you can GET a different view by taking a glance in someone else's direction.

3. Self realization. In some cases of HG bashing, it can come because the viewer sees some nasty behavior in the HG that they themselves share. Example...

I am in the Air Force and are very mouthy and when I see someone like that idiot Libra doing it, I think about myself doing it and it irritates me and in the end I project and self-loathing back on her. (PS I still don't like her) This can actually be good though in a way because a useful therapy model called reverse projection can use this exact method to help heal you issues. The thing about psychology is that it uses big cool latin-sounding words to make a very simple statement expensive. Here's the idea...

I am mouthy and pushy, I watch Libra doing the same thing, I hate Libra for doing it, I turn the picture on myself and hate myself for doing it, I change behavior. Before anyone even thinks it I will say I know this doesn't work 100%. Every single medical and psychiatric treatment doesn't work for all but I have had one HG actually change my opinion on myself...take a guess who it is. Look at the avatar. I won't tell you however which personality trait I shared with her though. I'll let your imaginations wash in a torrent of thought...here's a hint though (whine whine whine nag nag nag) GOOD LUCK!!!

4. Opposition...In the other side of the spectrum we have opposition. I am a very self-stabilized individual. I couldn't care less what people think of my looks or certain actions I do. So when I see people like Jen from 8 whining and balling over a stupid picture, I abhor it. It's so stupid. The people on BBAD and feeds are going to see you when you just wake up looking far worse than that picture and you are crying. She is a whiny little baby. I oppose that view so it's so easy for me to tear apart.

5. Jealousy. Some people wish they could be what those HG's are in certain aspects of their lives. I WISH and PRAY I could be as bold as ED (without the violence). I get walked on alot because outside of the Air Force where structure is set, I don't like confrontation. So one of two things will happen. I will either like and admire ED for being what I can't and hate his enemies as well or I will disdain ED for being what I couldn't and hate him.

6. And THEN there is just plain and simple good-old-fashioned holier than thou attitudes. I watched a girl in BB feeds talking about how upset she was that Natalie would allow her body to be used in the manner she did. A day later I saw that same girl talking about a wild sexual adventure she took place in a couple months ago. The thing I find is, we are all equal and frankly nobody is better than anyone else. Usually the people who talk the loudest hide the most. After all...I hate Maggie for blindly following Cappy despite his flaws (IMO of course) and I myself just recently FINALLY dumped a friend who has been using and abusing me for a decade. Huh...imagine that...I am just as dumb as Maggie

Well thanks for following along and if you'll excuse me...I think I'll go kill myself...or heal...one or the other..You'll be able to tell when I post later

GO TEAM BLONDE!!!

-Kyo

[sisu power]

btw, both spellings - judgemental or judgmental - are accepted.

I agree, ILove, so often the traits that we complain about in other people are the flaw we don't like (or refuse to see) in ourselves.

[bearpawz]

i might just be shallow but i dont take this to serious. It's a reality TV show with "characters" who I either like or dislike. The only draw back IMO is that they have families and lives outside the house. They may not be the same people we see and most certainly are not always the people edited for the ratings.

I do what I do here because I feel like it at the time. No other deep dark secret.

but that's what makes it so good, we all have our reasons why it works for us

i like to people watch and laugh