volzzilla Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 SCRebel, Totally different. Dani wanted to backdoor Eric, and thought doing the expected thing of nominating Kail/Jen first to keep it on the downlow. Problem was Dani/Dick letting Jess in on the plan. They should have either held off saying anything about backdoor, or just put up two of the NHer's instead. After that, the entire blame of Kail is on the NHers. Whereas Jen straight up was lying to Kaysar...though he shouldn'tve believed her anyway, as original NHer. Catnip, non commital, or can't think for self just still playing devils advocate as could be either case right now.
ranjake Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 jen, daniele, jess. i can't tell with zach. a lot of times i can't compute the things he says! who do you think is the biggest liar? i'm thinking amber...
SCRebel Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 Breaking your word is breaking you word, Daniele could have honored it by not putting Kail up. That's like using Jen Vazquez's excuse that it wasn't really a lie cuz she meant what she said at the time and changed her mind later.
MissyA Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 Jen lies the least. Eric and Dustin lie the most. Amber doesn't count since she can't tell the difference between telling the truth or lies.
WickedOne Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 I root for who lies the most. Take no prisoners in BB!
DeanMachine Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 I don't remember Jessica ever lying. Even when she ran to Eric to tell him D&D were after him, I don't remember hearing her say she wouldn't tell him (I could be wrong though, but I'd have to watch the footage again). As for Jen, I really don't think she did lie when she said she thought Eric made an alliance with her. He was always offering her deals so she probably believed him. The other day when Eric and Jen were chatting she mentioned something about it and he didn't even try to deny it because they were alone. If it wasn't true he would have asked her why she'd say it.
yadayadayada Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 Jess lied when she said she wouldnt tell eric about being back doored. Jen lied saying kail and eric were an alliance. they all have lied. every year we hear about lying like that is against the rules. this is big brother. they all lie Dick and dani are thinking of what lies they can spread right now among other nasty things they want dick to do.
yawnie Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 Dick is the ONLY one who has not lied. He has told the truth everytime, especially when he speaks his mind and says exactly what everyone else is thinking but is too gutless to say.
TCS Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 I think Zach hasn't been that big of a liar......but who really knows.....I think they're all a pathetic group of people....this is the first season that I don't have a favorite and I can't wait to see their faces when they see how they were taken in by Eric and CBS........
Justin Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 Probably Zach, he hasn't given himself an opportunity to lie..
surfgranny Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 Daniele told Kail she would be safe if she got down from the upside clock thingy. No different than what Jen told Kaysar in season six. Totally different! J-blow asked Kaysar to let HER be HOH and promised not to nominate him. Dani never sought out a deal with Kail. Kail was about to drop and wanted to get something out of it, so she offered to go up as a pawn if Dani would keep her safe. Dani said she would, and that the target would be Jenn. After Dani dropped, she learned about the banner and decided to backdoor Eric, use the POV to save Kail, and nominate Eric. Then Jenn won the POV - and she and Dick went into overdrive to get people to vote for Eric. They worked on Jess telling her that Eric said crap about herThey worked on Amber and had she not sworn on her daughter's life, she would have voted him out instead of KailThey worked on Dustin, and he agreed to their plan. Of course, he was lying, but oh well.They flipped sides and all of a sudden befriended Jenn whom they've hated and wanted out since the start of the game so she'd vote for Eric. J-Blow, like was said before, knew full well she was going to put up Kaysar and so did we when she winked to the camera when she said it. Dani, on the other hand, went far above and beyond in trying to keep her word to save Kail. She may be the spawn of Evel, but she's no J-Blo.
GingerSnaps Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 I though I heard each of them (Kail and Dani) say give it to me, give it to me, regarding HOH. Then the promise of not nominating her. I could be wrong.
ShelbyLynn75 Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 I thought I heard Kail ask Dani not to nominate her, then Dani say I can't promise you that, but I'll keep you safe. I'm not sure though.
GingerSnaps Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 Yes, that is it.."Keeping safe" well she lied on that one. But, I really think they both (or could just be Danielle I heard) say "give it to me."
ShelbyLynn75 Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 I don't view it as a lie, as she didn't campaign to put Kail out. She did try very hard to keep Kail safe. Kail, IMO, was not bright taking that deal! I would have not taken it unless she said she wouldn't nominate me.
GingerSnaps Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 I think it was assumed that keeping "safe" would mean no nom, everyone knows once nom'd anything can happen. but, I'm not sure if that play on words was worked out by them before hand.
ShelbyLynn75 Posted August 11, 2007 Posted August 11, 2007 I honestly thought that Kail asked to not be nominated while they were hanging and Dani told her she couldn't promise that. But I really don't know if that's what happened or not. I can't remember clearly.
surfgranny Posted August 12, 2007 Posted August 12, 2007 I can - and what Shelby says is exactly right. Kail doesn't feel like Dani was doing her wrong and D/D's reaction @ Kail being evicted was devastation, not the triumphant smirk that J-Blow had. I don't really care about the lying. Anyone who thinks that the people in the house are going to tell them the truth is delusional.
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