yath Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 LOL oldguy, I asked that same thing in a post yesterday--whether Jen had some remote way of connecting with CT...!! I wouldn't be at all surprised..especially hearing about this latest decision to put up Nick. AAAAAARGH..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Just think how much attention Jen will get for putting up Nick. Daniele will be clawing her eyes out. Dick will get voted out. attention attention attention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catniptoy Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 About the threats from Dick-- He told a few people that if he had a chance to step/stomp on Jen's neck during the veto comp and crush her windpipe, he would do it. He also yelled at her to shut up, and he's yelled at her several times to leave the house. He also told Jen (when she was calmly listening to him during about a half-hour diatribe by Dick as he told her how stupid and horrible she is and how much he can't stand her) that he had to jump through more hoops to be in the house than everyone else, because of his temper and his swearing, and CBS didn't want the liability... I don't know--I just feel that if he were maybe not as "cool" and he did this sort of thing, people would be griping to CBS and demanding he leave the house or something. I really liked Evel Dick at first. But I don't like it when people get almost violent in their hatred of someone because they get put on the block--that is all part of the game. It reminds me of Cappy from Season 6. I also think that Dick needs to look in the mirror when he says that Jen says "I, I, I, me, me, me" all of the time, because he is the SAME. And he loves the camera time as much as she does. So, he's quickly making me dislike him, and I've gained some respect for Jen that I didn't feel at all at first. At least she is playing the game and she's playing the best game for HER. She has listened to his criticism (and that's putting it nicely) and even agreed with parts of it, and has stayed calm and hasn't cried (Amber) or yelled. So, I've got to hand it to her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumblonde Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Somebody let me know when & where the fight video is posted too please. I was outside washing my car & missed it p.s... Catnip, how can you be reminded of only Cappy & not Howie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Just found it on You Tube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catniptoy Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Thanks for the link! I'm glad they got the threat to her in the storage room at the beginning, but they did cut out part of it just after that, before he told her to hide in the bathroom. He said several things to her before she left. He also told several people he would crush her throat in the comp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snancypants Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 so Dick DID say "I can't wait to feel the bones in your throat crushing between my fingers. I Fucking hate you" - hmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumblonde Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Thanks for the link Marty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catniptoy Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Hi, Dumblonde, When I say that Dick reminds me of Cappy, that doesn't somehow mean that he isn't like anyone else, or that he doesn't remind someone else of Howie. Since you brought it up, though, Dick's yelling at Jen was a lot like the one episode where Howie was yelling "Busto" and saying he wanted her resignation. However, when I said that Dick reminded me of Cappy, I was thinking more of the sort of violent fuming anger that they have both shown about being put on the block, as though they shouldn't be put on the block in the game. Dick has said that he has been staring Jen down on purpose every chance he gets, and this is another thing Cappy did when he was put on the block. I don't recall Cappy actually threatening physical harm to anyone, though, as Dick has done, so actually Dick is worse in my opinion. The biggest difference to me between Dick and Howie is that when Howie got upset, it was because he was lied to by "Busto" and he had trusted her. In this case, however, no one lied to Dick or claimed they wouldn't put him on the block and then did it. Again, Dick is worse even than Cappy in this instance in my opinion, because Cappy did feel that Kaysar lied to him when he said he would be safe, and then Kaysar put him on the block after the POV. No one lied to Dick, and yet he feels he shouldn't be put on the block. I just don't understand that attitude in this game. Dick even said before that he figured he would be on the block at least 3 times before the game is done, and yet he didn't follow up on that attitude when he was put on the block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xal Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Screw big Brother. How can someone get away with "I can't wait to feel the bones crush from your windpipe beneath my fingers"? How does someone get away with something like that? You could probably be arrested outside the house if you made a threat like that...hell that's more than a threat, that's say you're going to "I can't wait". I can't believe they're letting him stay in the house after that. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yath Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Well, there's a precedent for BB asking someone to leave because of violent words/behavior. And much as I USED to like Dick, I think he should be asked to leave--and before he's evicted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizzle Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 and in the middle of all that.... he still had it in him to go ask jameka if she was ok, cause she was upset with zach. was that it with the dick/jen thing.. cause from what everyone was posting i thought it was suppose to be heavier.... like over the top, screaming, pointing... and such. she seemed to be egging him on, saying "ahhh evil, my best friend" now there is some baiting if i ever saw it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumblonde Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Here is a more complete version of the Dick/Jen storage room fight Dick goes off at Jen Dick was going off on Jen before he was put on the block. He hates her & IMHO his rampage was cause by what Jen did to Amber not by being put on the block Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catniptoy Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 There was more. It wasn't all in that clip. I transcribed a lot of it on that day. I wouldn't call the "best friend" comment baiting, since he had told her before that that he would crush her throat and he hated her. So, she made the comment of him being her best friend after that--it was more of a sarcastic "I'm not going to lose my temper and let you get to me" kind of thing, imo. Before the storage room scene, Dick had been giving her the finger and dirty looks and saying "F--you" to her every time he saw her. Then he told Jameka, Kail, Zach and someone else (I can't remember who) that he would crush her throat and step on it if he had a chance during the comp, and he was doing everything he could to "intimidate" Jen. Then, the storage room thing happened with Jen trying to make Amber feel better by saying she should have said it to her in a nicer way. Then, after that, Dick followed Jen out and sat at the table and I transcribed most of that--it was cut out of the tape. Then, Dick told her to leave and she said there's no where to go in the house, and he told her to hide in the bathroom, and she said she would hide in the HOH room, instead. That was pretty much the end of it as Jen went upstairs to get away from him, although he still trashed her downstairs, and Joe went upstairs to talk to Jen. Edited to add: Actually, Dick has gone off on Jen several times, and he did go off on her just before she did the HOH nominations. So, he does hate her, and he tells her every chance he gets. I still think he was angry about being on the block, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catniptoy Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Dumblonde, just FYI--That storage room thing was just before the veto comp. It was after Dick was already on the block. It was before veto. So yes, he was upset about being on the block at that time. Regardless of whether he was upset about what was said to Amber (which was strategy on Jen's part, so big deal), he had no right to say all of that violent stuff to Jen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snancypants Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 We all have to be responsible for the words that come out of our mouths. ED hates Jen because she and Daniele have both been called "janie's". ED wants his daughter to be the "America's Choice". Unfortunately we live in a world where you can no longer make threatening statements and have them dismissed as nothing. Statements that say "I want to feel the bones in your neck crush between my fingers" is in fact a threat. If this were in the every day world she would be able to get a restraining order against him. It would go into a permanent file against him. I do think BB must have said something to them all after the big blowup and after the competition. Betcha that clip NEVER makes the aired show though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WickedOne Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Heard many times on all of the BB's by various HG's. "I'm going to kick so and so's ass or everyones ass in the next competition". Should they all have been evicted? Or do people just get nit picky about how a threat is worded? hmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xal Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 If Dick ever did snap and hurt her in any way, there is now documentation he threatened her. Thus, if heaven forbid something bad did happen, Big Brother would be up on a monumental lawsuit for allowing him to stay in the house after he threatened her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumblonde Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 If Dick broke a rule BB would have immediately kicked him out plain & simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOVRules Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Is anyone going to make a complaint to CBS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizzle Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 uhh Xal??? first off... i saw 1 clip and Dick not even yelling, it was over 8 minutes long but the part with dick and jen was maybe 20 seconds. so "can" it. that is why i asked if that was it or if there was more. i am not sticking up for him nor saying jen deserved it, or saying it is acceptable. where did i say that????? i also have said i havent been around in the last few days. so i have no clue what has been said. but i will say this, i do think there is a line that should not be crossed with anyone, male or female. period. BUT..... i also believe that there is also an equal space where men and women should share some blame. nobody is totally innocent in the BB house when it comes to these kind of things. weither deserved or not. do i think he is wrong for saying such things? yes. do i think she is wrong for egging him on? yes. is there a winner of the 2? no Edit: Catnip... thanks for the in depth details.. that was easier than going and looking elsewhere and now i dont have to. AND!!!! coming from you (a trusted source)!!!! like i said, the last few days i havent been around and havent been watching my live feeds so i havent seen any of this. very dissapointed...i dont care if its a man or a woman... nobody should be harrassing anyone like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xal Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Edited for baiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xal Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 She wasn't egging anyone on, watch the feeds. It was all Dick. She only said some sarcastic things about him being her best friend AFTER he said the horrid things he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catniptoy Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 When you are in a competition, isn't "kick some ass" an expression? I mean, it doesn't literally mean that you will go and kick each person's ass, with your foot in their behind. At least, not where I'm from. However, saying you can't wait to crush the bones in someone's neck does seem to be more specific and not a figure of speech. Call me picky. Dick told Jen that he had to jump more hoops to get on BB than the average person, because they were afraid of his temper and didn't want the liability. So, I'm sure they are watching him, and probably nothing would ever happen to Jen. I'm sure BB knows that they could be sued if he actually did something to her. Let's hope that they had a talk with him in the DR about it. It doesn't seem to bother Jen--either she is really thick skinned or she's really not bothered by it. I think we should all remember that our pasts shape who we are and how we feel about things like domestic violence, and it could be a hot-button topic. It does bother me, for my own personal reasons, and I felt upset as I was watching it. But, that's my own past rearing its ugly head. To others, it may seem like nothing. It doesn't seem to bother Jen much, so hopefully she feels safe and is safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catniptoy Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Xal, it really does seem like you are upset, and probably it would be a good idea to not be in the thread for a while, as this is upsetting you. I know you seem to be a real Jen fan, and sometimes our feelings are out of control when we see our favorites abused in any way. However, the first sentence you wrote was inching into flaming, in my opinion, and I don't want you to get into trouble. I certainly didn't mean to upset anyone by comparing a houseguest (Dick) to a past houseguest (Cappy) and leaving out a possible comparison to another houseguest (Howie). I didn't mean to drag up any past feelings about season 6 or anything like that. I was just reminded of Cappy, and said so. I know that we don't want to make the thread about season 6, though, so I apologize if my comparison bothered anyone. I don't think anyone is applauding Dick's behavior when he said that about crushing her throat. I also don't think it is automatically going to make everyone hate Evel Dick and cause them to stop being his fans, and that doesn't make those people wrong. So, we should all just try to tell ourselves that every person's threshold for violence, whether verbal or physical, is different, and while something might bother us, it might not bother the next person. All we should do is give our own opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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