Kalhuua Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfRealityTV Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 Ericit's theme song is the "Twilight Zone"... What a waste of skin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalia Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 The only thing I'm thinking of through all of this is how Erica's is going to get a nice slice of REALITY pie smashed in her face Tuesday night. After she gets second behind boogie, learns that Jani wins AC....and Boogie dumps her sorry self, she's going to be eating her words. What a low class broad...(and I really hate using that term, but she has totally lost ANY respect I had for her, especially hanging on to the illusion that Boogie and her are dating. UGH) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCRebel Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 The sadist in me would love to see this on Tuesday night. Julie Chen: Mike, Erika any last words before we reveal the final jury vote? Mike you first... Boogie: Yeah, Erika, you're a ho, please stay the hell out of my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samg Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 For the record, since someone earlier suggested seriously that Erika had "mental problems", I thought I'd add my opinion: I suspect that both W. and Janie are more "diagnosable" than E.. And MB might be also - he's been a little silent so it's hard to be sure. The thing about it is that all the diagnoses in question are "personality disorders', and they are the category of "mental disorder" in which the person her/himself almost never seeks therapy - "It's just who I am!" (That's why they're called personality disorders.) When such a person ends up in therapy it's almost always because someone with whom they have a very close relationship (or a judge) insisted on it: these disorders affect those around the patient much more than the patient her/himself. Look at what just WATCHING these people has done to some of us posters! Now imagine LIVING with one of them. The funny thing to me is that they had to live with EACH OTHER for all those weeks (and of course reality-show producers WANT people who are rather far from the norm, in the hope that during the season something will push them still farther from the norm until they cross the line into "abnormal", which viewers seem to enjoy watching - even if they "hate it.") What I found interesting (and what made this season seem so boring to so many posters in the early stages) is that most of those personality types whose styles involved aggression (either displaying it or inducing it in others) were evicted fairly early in the game, so things were rather more peaceful in the BB House than they have been in other seasons. (Perhaps the early evictions were the result of the other HG's KNOWING who was who from the start of the game.) And the two "big personalities" left at F4 were a ridiculously complementary pair with (I suspect) two diagnosable "disorders" each, one the same in each of them (which is what made them want to interact with each other, since that enabled them to "be who they were") and one in each that was different from the other (which led both to Will's controlling Janelle for so long AND to her evicting him after hearing that he called her a "slut": I have no doubt that that - and NOT the "discovery" that CT had been saying the same things to both females, since J. could have rationalized that as CT's playing E. IF she still had faith in Will - was the factor which caused J. to evict Will.) But of the F2, I think Erika's obviously dependent personality (I'll bet that when she comes home to an empty house the first thing she does is turn on TV or radio, to have a human voice in the backgound) still has a better chance of forming a meaningful relationship with someone than does MB's personality - too much self-loathing there I think. But of course all of that is just how I see it. Unlike Bill Frist, I know better than to feel confident in a diagnosis made on the basis of video data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityKari Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 I can't believe I'm about to say this but after hearing all about Erika's spew of why she should win, GO BOOGIE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCRebel Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 Bill Frist is a dork. I'm glad he's retiring and that his presidential campaign is bound to fail. Hopefully the Republicans will retain the senate majority and install a good guy like Mitch McConnell as Majority Leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
word_girl Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 After the conclusion of Big Brother, Erika Landin was seen on the doorstep of Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItWasntMe Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 How many hours do you think Erika will spend in Dr. Zachary's office today? Serious question here... At this point, do you think BB is taking things too far for the sake of entertainment if they let this continue until Tuesday? As much as I don't like either of them, it looks like Erika is truly having a mental breakdown. How far are we all willing to go for the sake of entertainment? For me, fun is fun but it bothers me that I might actually be willing to watch another human being go completely mad just for the sake of amusement. Even Boogie seems like he is going to come out of this with his "living in Will's shadow" complex fully intact. Which means that money or not, his entire reason for being on BB this time was a waste of time. I believe that both of them have put themselves in the situation they are in. Reminds me of a "too the death" gladiator fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityKari Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 Oh that is great stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalhuua Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 Omg I'm going to hell...but that was funny word_girl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItWasntMe Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 Ok, I take it back. She's purely an idiot. Go Boogie!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamTheCat Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 Oh okay, I just read the daily updates - yeah I agree that Erika seems to be taking credit for events of which she only played a part combined with a lot of luck. But actually, isn't that essentially correct that she was largely aware of the dynamics of the house - that's not something that she can really explain, but accurately assessing people and house dynamics is crucial to anticipating how people are going to react and her actions pretty much demonstrated that she was largely accurate in that respect. I mean she looked like an idiot everytime she said she was an honorary member of Chilltown and that they were being 'real' with her but not Janelle but at the same time she'd also say to them she was worried they would take Janelle over her, and that they were probably feeding the two of them the exact same lines, etc - like she seemed to oscillate between believing them and doubting them . . . Why I would tend to think her doubt was more than just generalized skepticism is that when the chips were down during final 4 she didn't hesitate to act on it and in fact was able to argue convincingly to Janelle that they were both being played - that took a checklist of redflags to pull off. . . . also it's true that she did have some idea about Danielle and James being in with Chilltown because when George wanted to put Will up she knew she'd get evicted even before Danielle piped in. I mean, like she probably didn't know about the name and stuff but Chilltown saving Danielle the week before was kind of the giveaway. Also, if Janelle had won HOH this week and taken Erika, isn't it true she'd have had the votes to win? I thought everybody had done the math and the only votes Janelle had was Howie, George, and maybe Will, so that part is true too. I mean, yeah she's pretty cocky and bitchy for a butt-kissing leach, but are people just calling her crazy because she called Janelle that first? Not that Janelle is crazy, just apparently really pissed. Granted Erika didn't do a good job of explaining her gameplay, but I do think the reason she was able to make it so far in a house that had a lot of people trying to coast (Diane, George, Howie, Marcellas, etc) was largely due to her ability to accurately assess her risk factor and that involves accurately assessing hidden alliances. Not saying she deserves to win over Boogie or anything though . . . just saying that for her to say she was aware of hidden alliances or to overestimate her contribution to certain events doesn't make her crazy . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityKari Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 It doesn't make her crazy but for her to give herself that much credit is almost crazy. She got this far because she was a tool for CT and that's it. It wasn't through any skill that she thinks she had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chips&TV Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 :lol: that's a great pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamTheCat Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 He he - I know what you're saying . . . Maybe it's more a matter of Erika just not doing a good job of selling herself - like if you agree that what Erika has is the ability to accurately assess risk and identify hidden alliances well then that's one skill she has that Will apparently does not since he had no clue that Janelle and Erika had conspired to evict his wrap-city ass. And if Will was trying to impress Erika with his 'puppetmaster' reputation during the roundtable, it should have been pretty easy for somebody in her position to play to Will's ego and say yeah Will you're the greatest, your unparalleled - so what does that make me for me to have engineered your ouster using the very skills that make you so great. I mean, she'd never get his vote anyway but maybe that'd have locked in Danielle's . . . I mean another way to look at how having the ability to assess risk in this way is so key is that Erika was a target from week 2 - the sovs wanted her out because they knew she had the ability to make it all the way to the end of the game and that made her a threat. Somebody who was aware of peoples' thinking like Erika seemed to be would act to address that risk by either making somebody else look like a greater or more immediate target, or by making themselves useful to that alliance in order to neutralize that threat - which is exactly what she did. Like the whole way through this game people have been saying, omg we need to get rid of Erika or else she's going to float to final 2. Well then why the heck didn't they? Or more importantly, how much of a part did Erika play in making them think that they didn't need to follow through because there was always next week . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityKari Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 Yeah good point. I can't wait to see how she handled herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laydeebee Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 What skills does Erika have? Her & Janelle got together and told each other the truth they were both being played. That's the only reason her and Janelle hooked up. Not because of some master plan Erika had. Erika was at one point in this game a "Scorned Woman", there was nothing intelligent about that move, it was purely emotional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamTheCat Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Sounds like she handled herself pretty crappy PS I'm not at all digging all the bashing she seems to be doing on Janelle and Danielle - not cool! What skills does Erika have? Her & Janelle got together and told each other the truth they were both being played. That's the only reason her and Janelle hooked up. Not because of some master plan Erika had. Erika was at one point in this game a "Scorned Woman", there was nothing intelligent about that move, it was purely emotional. The point is that everybody is saying she was Chilltown's puppet, but at the one time it was crucial she actually used that 'puppetry' against them and in her favor AND she was able to give Janelle the key info to get through to her. I think she would have had to have doubt all the way through the game to be able to persuade Janelle that they were both being used at that point, otherwise she'd have just come across like the used puppet that everybody thinks of her as. I don't know though . . . I mean even if she is able to accurately gauge people in that way, how do you really demonstrate that to people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest StarBaby Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 I'd like to know where samg got her/his medical degree or psychology license? I am sure Will and Janelle will be fascinated with your diagnoses of them both. Frankly, I would like to see anyone go in that house with the sensory deprivation, game playing, pressure, etc. that is present, and not look a little nutty. That being said, I do think Erika has some serious issues. Maybe it took the BB house to bring them to a head, but she seems a bit warped to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laydeebee Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 "I don't know though . . . I mean even if she is able to accurately gauge people in that way, how do you really demonstrate that to people?" The way Erika would demonstrate it is, she would tell them over and over and over and over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamTheCat Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Well then I guess the issue would really not be that Erika hasn't 'done' anything to 'earn' the $, but would really be about her not being able to sell herself as well as Boogie. I mean how would you demonstrate an interpersonal skill to others that they themselves seemingly don't have or have to a lesser extent (like Will as explained above, or Janelle since Erika had to tell her about them both being played)? Because people don't respect what they don't understand . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lianna Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Erika didnt play the game with knowledge of all the stuff that was going on at the time, she was clueless for the most part, just floating along because there was always a bigger target. She did not figure all this stuff out as it was happening using "interpersonal skills" lol. It was AFTER she and Janelle started comparing notes that she started looking back and fitting other pieces together. Dont give her the credit she is trying to claim for herself now. She played with little strategy, and largely got to the end by luck and one well timed pov. Will tried like hell to get that POV to ensure that Jani stayed and Erika was evicted. She is now trying to rewrite history to make herself look like she was the all-knowing most strategical player this season. She has deluded herself into believing that she has been behind most of the evictions, not Will and Boogie....lmao. She now thinks that she could have beaten Janelle if they were final 2. The woman is no master mind....she has lost her mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalhuua Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 I co-sign that lianna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 I still can't get over the night that Janie left and she and Boogie were all hyped up about being F2. Erika kept saying over and over. We made America so happy. America loves us. We gave America what they wanted. * delusional ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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