hty Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I don't understand why they don't go after Will... they have to...He is playing his game...He should have been the first one out the door.... If he doesnt go this week well then they are fools for not getting him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moksha Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Because Kaysar.. being you know, the smartest man on earth.. decides that it's more important to put up Nak and Diane to see if it pisses Jase off, than to put up people who are actually.. well, true threats. Week 2, they're nominating two people, who are threats but definitely not the biggest, just to see if it pisses one person off.... yeah, he's a genius . But lets keep in mind, this IS the same group that let Maggie walk away, when James KNEW it was a stupid thing to do, so it really doesn't surprise me if they'd just let Will and Mike walk away too, lol. I still think Kaysar and Will have an alliance hence the reason he doesn't want to put Will up. But that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bos3000 Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I think both moves work. It just depends who you want out first. It seems to me that Will/Boogie will not win many competitions, while Diane and Nakomis will. But then again, Will and Boogie are a strong alliance that plays the game with talking and can influence a lot of people's actions in the house. Instead of putting one of the alliances for eviction, choose one from each camp. Will/Nak or Boogie/Diane or whatever. And if any of them manage to win the veto, just put the other partner up for eviction and evict the better player, which would be Will or Diane, IMO. Now if you talk about wasting an HoH, then you'll put up George. I think Jase, Danielle, and Marc are loners and will be out of the game eventually. And even if one of them stays until the end, they won't have the votes needed to win. So the strong alliances have to be dealt first: Will/Boogie, Nak/Diane. My two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moksha Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Oh I'm all for putting up Diane and Nakomis if it's for, well.. because they're threats. But the only reason Kaysar put them up was to see if it'd piss off Jase, that's why I think he's an idiot. Kaysar was always overrated when it came to the intelligence department, but this move is just.. idiotic. I sure hope he changes it before nominations come around. I have to agree, one of each would be best, you're guaranteed to get one of them out, no matter how you look at it. And if Jase is in an alliance with them, it'd still piss him off. For me, I would have personally put up Will and Mike, because like you said... Will and Mike KNOW how to talk to people, and they KNOW how to make people second guess themselves as well as their alliance. With James being the odd one out in his alliance, if W&M stay... they're going to start putting thoughts in James mind (which mind you, won't be hard.. he doesn't trust them anyways), and things can turn ugly for the Sovs after that. Diane and Nak however, don't really have that talking power W&M do, sure they may be a threat in competitions, but they're not even that big of one. Jase is a bigger one than them. I think it'd be smart just to get Will or Mike out (preferably Will, obviously he's the brain of the alliance), early. And Kaysar being the "genius" he is, should know this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cindyannie Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Actually the reason he said he was putting up Nakomis and Diane was to weaken the alliance he believes Jase has with them and then Jase would be with them. It's more a strategy of keeping your enemies close (jase) and losing a good player (either Nakomis or Diane). Kaysar sees Nakomis as a very smart player and knows he came within one question of losing the HOH to her. That would have been a disaster as she would have nominated Kaysar and Howie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cindyannie Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Oh and as for nominating Will. Will WANTS to be nominated unlike all the other sane players. He says it's insulting to him not to be nominated. So maybe Kaysar doesn't want to give Will what he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbrovaz Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Will says that because he knows he can't win the game this time, so he might as well leave in the beginning than stay till the end and give a vote to someone. It's like all or nothing for Will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cindyannie Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Yeah I know he says that but I am wondering if he's waiting to see what Kaysar does and then change his strategy about staying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbrovaz Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 of course he will change his mind. he thinks that now that kaysar is HOH he might as well give up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngeliaCG Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 For someone who says they do not want to be there he sure did some serious pacing after Kay won HOH. He tries to act like he doesn't care but we all know he does! If it were me in HOH I would put up Nak and Will. Those are the two strongest players in the house IMO. Will likes to play like he doesn't care and that confuses people and Nak is downright tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelulu Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I'm glad he's not putting Will up. I'm not ready for Will to leave. Boogie on the other hand can go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orionvierling Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 The SOVs are not smart enough to put up Will....it wasn't done last week and it looks like it won't be done this week. Bad move. Really stupid to think they will be able to manipulate Chill Town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizzle Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 correct Onionhead.. very true. it would be a big mistake if they dont nominate will i think they should.. and so does Will! lol i say give him what he wants.. a challange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tric Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I don't really care for Nakomis, so she can go anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis_3 Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 If Kaysar was as smart as he thinks he is, he would put up Will and Diane. Why mess with the floaters while they're flaoting you way? Ya know. Veto comp...If Will or Diane are taken off, replace with either Booger or Nakomis. But the serious game play will be getting the rumor out that that is the plan. So Nakomis and Booger know they could be in the noose, as well. But then again, as much as I like Kaysar, he is never as smart as I think he should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelegyrl Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Kayser's best bet is one from each alliance Will/Boogie and Diane/Nakomis. I would rather see Diane and Nakomis go up but for Kayser one of each makes more sense. That way POV won't affect anything cause the other would just go up in the place of the one coming off of the block. I also think that if Boogie is evicted, Will will try his best to get out of the house. He really doesn't seem to want to make sequester. I think he'd probably end up quitting. He's only there to help Boogie, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarman12 Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I guess it's gonna be Nakomis and Diane. Kaysar's plan seems very involved and complicated, so it will probably blow up in his face. It involves flushing Jase out from his alliance with Diane, some fake alliance with Chilltown to sow dissension-----I guess he never read Thoreau. "Simplify, simplify"-----. Or was that Emerson ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikala328 Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I Think Boogie/Nak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamTheCat Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 omg - I almost died when I heard the sov's conspiring to manipulate Chilltown. Dr. Will's 'won' . . . he's totally won (figuratively speaking) - like even if he goes next week, the fact that he survived even 2 weeks without being nominated is a huge achievement. Gotta respect Dr. Will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gill332211 Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 I think it will be Will/Nakomis because out of all the people in the house i think they are the biggest gamers. I was also thinking Jase but they already told him that he was safe and i dont think they want to piss one more person off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheera Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 If they were smart, they would put Danielle back up there and try to get her outta there. She is coming after them....They will probably put up Nakomis though and maybe Diane or Will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuzMe Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Every one keeps talking about getting out the floaters, but I think there are only gamers trying to appear to be floaters. I think there are alliances that no one knows about yet. I may be wrong but I think some will be surprised about some alliances that are just playing smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamTheCat Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Okay yeah, I'm better starting to see the beauty of the 'floater' strategy. I think people were only talking so much about getting rid of them last week because people didn't really respect that game - the way last week's voting went back and forth George, Marcellas and Erika came out looking a lot more relevant since they ultimately determined the outcome . . . AND did it without pissing anybody off. They might really benefit from another heated vote campaign like last week, otherwise the sovs might not feel like they need them and might start talking about how they 'deserve' to make it farther than the floaters, eh? PS Yeah, sheera - Danielle's like a lion who's just in retreat to lick her wounds. Can't wait for the 'eye for an eye' stuff she promised Ali . . . roar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbrovaz Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Will cannot believe he's not being nominated, that he thinks he's being backdoored lol "I'm ready to go home" Yeah, right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cindyannie Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Did anyone else see James tell Diane she was safe this week? She said thanks. Then we lost the feeds. So it looks like Nakomis and Will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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