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10:25AM BBT 

Bowie Jane announces that the screen in the LR now says “Nominations Today!”

10:36AM BBT

Blue is cooking breakfast.

10:40AM BBT

America is showering while chatting with Matt about dreams. America says all she dreams about in the BB house is BB, but she really wants to dream about anything else but BB to get a break.

10:52AM BBT

America is talking with Bowie and Cirie in Comicverse about exchanging “I love you”s with Cory. America says Cory told her he slipped up 3 weeks okay and told her, but she didn’t hear. He told her it must be in the feeds. She is very happy she met Cory and can’t wait to spend more time with him. She talks about Cory like he is her forever guy.

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Cirie: Well, I am happy for y’all! 
Bowie: Same!

Cirie: You know Rachel is my people and it happened for her, so it can happen to you.

America: How is Rachel? Is she cool?

Cirie says that Rachel is exactly as she portrays herself on tV “she is exactly what you see, and a beast!”

America: she is a comp beast

Cirie: Rachel is good, like a BB icon. Shout out to Rachel! I’m soooo happy for you guys.

America says they are doing Thanksgiving with his family then fly to NY for a week to visit very one there then Nashville in early December and Christmas with her family.

Felicia: Well, y’all done got serious!

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1:20PM BBT

Jag is talking with America in the HoHR. He says everyone is expecting she will be the target, "You are the target. Everyone fully knows and believes it will be you on the block. It's just who is next to you."

America: If you do get the veto, I would love if you used it on me. 

Jag says he will if he gets any inkling that she will be the one evicted, "Yes that will reveal my cards, but at that point, Blue will be out the door. I want Blue gone."



Jag started his one-on-one meetings around noon. I'll summarize them all soon...


12:04PM BBT

Felicia meets with Jag. Jag tells Felicia he was happy to get a picture of his sister's wedding since he couldn't be there. His family put a cardboard cut-out of him at the wedding.

Felicia: They were saying you are here in spirit.

Felicia asks Jag what he is thinking (for nominations).

Jag says that everyone knows who his target is and now it's just who sits next to America. What is your thought?

Felicia: Well, you're the HoH, so it's what you want to do. I think if we are in a true final four then we gotta make sure none of us land on the block. I do believe Blue's feelings will be quite hurt if she ends up on the block, again, even though she knows she's a pawn. I know you don't want to put up Bowie Jane. But if she knows...you say, 'As long as you know you are the pawn, you're okay.' That's just my thought. I think you will lose some trust with Blue if she goes up, unless that doesn't matter. I don't think you lose Bowie Jane. I don't know. You just got to figure out what your best path is.

Jag says that's what he is trying to figure out. "I really don't want to get more blood on my hands. If I put up Bowie Jane, I feel like that's..."

Felicia: I think she is anticipating it.

Jag: But me, you, Cirie, Matt? I am serious about that.

Jag tells her that he doesn't want to put her up. "Under no circumstances do I want to put you in a position of danger. You are someone I want in this game."

Felicia: Thank you.




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12:24PM BBT

Jag walks Felicia out and calls in Bowie Jane. They hug.

Jag: I'm gonna put up Blue and America. I told her I didn't want to get any more blood on my hands so essentially it came down to you or Blue next to America. She tried pitching you going up. I am playing it off as we are not close. She was saying she has been a pawn so many times and it's stressful. Ultimately I told her I am not nominating you.

Bowie: Maybe she could help you. We just have to get through next week.

Jag: I told her whoever it is sitting next to America, obviously they are the pawn, so if you could let Blue know. If America does win the veto? Perfect, it doesn't matter. I put up Mama Fe.

Bowie: I talked to Cirie this morning and she said she could tell it was going to be Blue (next to America). 

Jag: That might be better because...anyone winning veto other than Blue is perfect. He says he will tell America, straight up, that she is not the target. "I'll just see how that goes. I'd rather America competing in that competition next week than Blue."


12:39PM BBT

Jag: Blue is the target. The only people that know Blue is the target are you and Matt. Not even Cirie. 

Bowie says Cirie already believes Blue is the target. Jag says he won't confirm it then wonders if he should tell Cirie to build trust.

Bowie: Maybe. I don't really think she would pass that on. 

Jag: Maybe I will talk with her.

Jag tells her that she can tell everyone he is just trying to figure out who to put next to America.





12:45PM BBT

Jag meets with Cirie. They talk about his sister's wedding and the photo his family sent him.



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12:51PM BBT

Cirie says that Jag being the Invisible HoH and missing out on that (pics and letter) was hard, so he deserved this love! 

Jag tells Cirie she is not going up, and Matt is not going up.

Cirie: I know America is coming for you.

Cirie tells Jag that she and Bowie definitely feel they have to study and do their best to protect him and Matt, "We feel wholeheartedly that our best chance to get to the four is with you and Matt."

Jag: We are going all the way to the end.

Cirie: We are going to put every effort! If I can provide that protection you guys have given us, that's all I want to do. 

She says she will do whatever he wants to do. "You got a lot of people in here playing for you." (in veto)


12:57PM BBT

Jag tells Cirie that ultimately, his goal is to get Blue out because she is more of a competitor. Cirie says she will leave the HoHR with the idea that America is the target and let him handle who he brings in on the plan. He shares the plan to tell Blue that he just can't afford to get new blood on his hands so she is going up and that the one bad outcome is America winning veto... that he trusts Blue to win the veto more. Cirie agrees that's the best way to deal with it.


1:34PM BBT

Jag meets with Matt. He tells Matt he only has Blue left after talking to him.

Matt: How did she take it? (America)

Jag: Fine! She doesn't want to, but I told her she is going on the block.

Bowie Jane checks in quickly and Jag tells her that he told CIrie that Blue is the target.

Jag tells Matt all about his conversations.

Jag: Blue is gonna go up. I haven't told her yet. I'm gonna tell Blue that I need a competitor.

Matt: You don't want her winning.

Jag says that Cirie is down for Blue going home.



1:48PM BBT

It's Blue's turn with the HoH.

Jag heads into the HoH bathroom and Blue hides under his comforter. He comes out looks for her then and heads to the door thinking she left. She uncovers herself and says, "Surprise!"  

Jag: Oh my God! I could not see you! That's crazy!

Jag tells Blue that if America saves herself, Bowie is going to have to go.

Blue: Mama Fe really deserves to be here!

Jag agrees! He tells her this week will be a house move and he has to put her up against America to fight for that veto.

Blue: If you were gonna tell me Mama Fe was gonna be the pawn, I was gonna tell you, 'Nah, just put me up" because I can beat America in literally, almost, anything.








3:00PM BBT

We have RCHS on the feeds for the nomination ceremony.

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4:13PM BBT

The feeds move from RCHS to WBRB Gold Swirlies


4:15PM BBT

The feeds are back to Jag and Bowie going through food in the SR.

Cirie is alone in Comicverse just shaking her head.


It seems Jag is trying to combine 3 cans of soup to make a minestrone soup.


4:16PM BBT

Felicia enters Comicverse, "That's why he didn't want to put Bowie up because he knows Bowie could go."

Cirie: Why can't Bowie go home?

Felicia: Right! If she going home anyway, why can't she go now?


4:17PM BBT

In Scaryverse, Jag asks Matt, "Was that speech mean?

Matt: No!

Jag: I was trying to be funny.

If I get houseguest choice, it's you. If Blue gets houseguest choice, it's you.

Matt: America would choose me

Jag: She can't choose you because then Blue would know something was up.

Matt: I don't want to be the one mother fucker that doesn't play.

Jag: You have to play. What if it's slip-n-slide? If so, I need to be out there. You need to be out there, and Bowie needs to be out there.

Matt: Yeah, 'cause it's long and tall!


4:21PM BBT

They head to the kitchen where Bowie has combined the soups.

Matt: What are you making?

Bowie: It's minestrone

Jag: It's vegetable, chicken and tomato.

Jag tries it and says it is strong on tomato. Blue tries it and says it needs more chicken.

Jag: Let's do chicken noodle.

Blue: Once again, cooking for a bitch that has put me on the block.

Matt says America is tripping and that was so expected. Blue says she is in DR.

Jag: I hope she isn't in there saying, "That is so mean."

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4:45PM BBT

Blue, Jag and Bowie are eating grilled cheese and soup in the kitchen. America just came out of DR and joined Felicia, Matt and Cirie in Comicverse. Jag wants some traditional Indian dishes like Tandoori chicken or Butter Chicken.

Felicia heads to DR to ask for chicken thighs and heavy cream to make Jag a chicken dish for tomorrow.



I'm out for now  -ML

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5:45PM BBT

The HGs have been quizzing each other on possible questions about items in the house.

Felicia: Tell me the order of the four balls in the living room. (the globes that light up)

Jag: Uh oh

Bowie: I have tried to learn that and I haven't.

Jag: Comic, Humili, Scramble, Scary...Final answer

Felicia: Wrong!

Felicia: Cirie, you know?

Cirie shakes her head, no

Jag: Okay, let me change that: Scary, Humili, Scramble, Comic. Final answer. Lock it in.

Bowie laughs

Felicia: No

Jag slaps his leg.

Jag: Okay, Boom, my life on the line: Comic, Scramble, Humili, Scary, final answer.

Felicia shakes her head no.

Bowie: What is it?

Felicia: It should be Scary, Comic, Humili, Scramble

Jag gets up to go check. The correct order is Comic, Scary, Humli, Scramble

Jag stops in Scrambleverse where America is bundled up because she says it is freezing in the house. Jag quizzes America. She gets it wrong.

Jag opens the door to Comicverse and gives them the correct order.

Felicia: C, H, S, C

Bowie develops a way to remember, "The comics are scary. Let's humiliate the scrambled eggs."

Jag: They are memorizing things wrong. That's good for us.

Jag: Was my speech mean?

America: It only made me cry.

Jag: Oh

America: No, you had already told me it. I thought it was funny. 'You want trouble, let's have trouble.'

The laugh over things they are memorizing that would never be questions.

America: It's freezing in there. They started counting dots and stripes, so I had to get out of there. (being sarcastic) 'How many holes are in the cheese bed?'

Jag adds one: How many feathers did Cockadoodle Zoom were there?

Jag: Do you think there's going to be slip-n-slide this season at all?

America: Could be but I don't think so.

Jag: Do you think there will be the spelling thing?

America: Could be. 

Jag: If so, it's this week. 

America: I have to think of words.

Jag: You can hang out in the HoH Room if you want

America: I haven't listened to the music.

Jag: We have to think of words!

America: Consensualism...all of the sudden, I can't spell.

Jag: That's not really a word, is it? 


5:52PM BBT

Bowie joins America and Jag in Scrambleverse, and they laugh over all of the crazy things they are counting and memorizing.

Jag: Yo! They ain't going to ask those questions. What are we doing?

Jag gets up: Okay, come on up to HoH Room whenever. 

As Jag walks out, America shoots the bird at Jag 'Fuck off'

Bowie yells, "Fuck you! She said 'fuck you!' I heard it."

Jag walks back in like he is about to have a confrontation, "I don't know how to make it more clear."

They all laugh

America: What are you gonna clip? What are you gonna clip next? My little chicken legs?

Bowie: How did you prepare that bloody speech?

Jag: You like it?

Bowie: I did!

America: My parents are going to take it so seriously.

They mimic how her parents will react.

Jag: 'Nooo! He's a monster!'

Bowie: They are gonna say fuck Jag

Jag: He's a monster! 'I'm gonna clip your wings! You're gonna plummet through the sky!'



6:50PM BBT

Felicia and Cirie are prepping dinner. They are making chicken strips. Matt made homemade honey mustard. There is potato salad and rice, too. Matt comes in to check on dinner. They chat about the dining table be smaller but thinner and higher. Matt heads back upstairs.


7:10PM BBT

Blue joins Felicia and Cirie in the kitchen. Felicia laughs, "They must be hungry. It's like my kids at home, 'Mom, is dinner ready?'

Felicia: I wish we had some wine! Big Brother? Day 80!

Felicia tells Big Brother the SR is still open.

Blue: Nah, they say 'You guys have veto tomorrow.'

Blue says the kitchen smells so good and the smell is rising to the Hoh Room.

Matt is back down, again, checking on dinner progress.


7:25PM BBT

Dinner is finally ready. All of the HGs take the food up to the HoHR to eat around the coffee table. 

On their way up the stairs, Matt thanks Cirie for cooking dinner.

Cirie: You're welcome. It's just chicken strips.

Everyone is enjoying dinner. They call the honey mustard 'Matty Sauce'

Matt and Jag are the last to fix their plates, yielding to the ladies.

[Their mamas raised them right. These two guys have always been very courteous and respectful to the women in the house. They are just all around great guys. Great casting, BB!  -MamaLong}





7:50PM BBT to 8:22PM BBT

WBRB Gold Swirlies


When the feeds return, Felicia is recalling her confrontation with Jag. Bowie says she had no idea what was going on.

Jag: I got a full clip to the head.

Bowie: What was it about?

America says she thought this was family time and it's turned into a full on house meeting.

Jag says it was because of something Blue had said.

Blue: Me? What did I do?

They then laugh about Hisam going on his "apology campaign tour"

Felicia says Cameron mumbled, "I didn't get an apology" and Hisam replied. "I know you didn't!"

They continue recalling funny things that happened or were said.

America: 'I am sitting here bleeding everywhere'

Felicia cackles: I am remembering some shit!

[That cackle is so extremely annoying. Felicia is fun, and I do like her, but I would never be able to spend much time around her because of her obnoxious laugh! She also just talks extremely loud as if everyone in the world wants to hear what she is saying. -ML]

Cirie: I think we all remember, we just don't want to be rude and say it out loud.

Blue: I'll just stay completely still and maybe she won't know I'm here.



8:31PM BBT

Felicia goes to find America in Scrambleverse.

Felicia: America, I want to apologize. I wouldn't have brought it up, but...

America says she is fine, it was funny and not to worry, "I just had to lay down because I am a little gassy."

Felicia: Okay

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8:33PM BBT

Jag checks on America in Scrambleverse.

America: That was funny. She came and apologized. It was funny, though

Jag: 'Like mom told me to stick..' I was like, holy fuck.


Jag: I don't know if everyone is that chill.

America: I don;t think so! I was looking at Cirie and she was like (shocked face) What are you doing down here with the peasants?

Jag: I was born a peasant. I will live a peasant. I will die a peasant.

America: I am in the animal hospital after my wings were clipped earlier today...After the veto ceremony, I'm going to say, 'I can't believe he called me a bitch.' Your rates are going to plummet.

Jag: Well, how are you doing?

America: I'm okay. I just miss Cory! It sucks obviously. Yesterday was hard, and once you won I was like, well I have to.

Jag: It will be Bowie (going up as replacement)

America: I talked to Bowie and told her if I get houseguest choice I would pick her because she is a good competitor.

Jag: Do you have a second choice?

America: Well, I mean, I feel like Blue will pick Matt. There's no one else.

Jag: Yeah

America says she doesn't know how many HG choice there even are.

Jag says if he picks HG choice, he will choose Matt.

America: I would probably do Bowie and then Cirie because she hasn't had any. 


9:36PM BBT

In the HoHR, Bowie, Jag and Matt talk about how Blue is suddenly trying to work with them.

Bowie: I hate this fake shit

Matt: It's hard doing the fake shit

Jag says if they are getting tired of hanging out with people and having fake conversation, they should just go have a long chess game, "You guys know I am super easy going." He says that stuff doesn't get to him, but if it bothers them, they should just do what they need for themselves.

Jag: We don't have much time left. This week will go into a double.

Bowie Jane: I'm trying

Jag: If Blue and America leave (in DE, things will go perfectly).  I think Felicia would put up America. 

Matt says he doesn't think she would make that move. 

Bowie: Me and America, probably

Jag: Either way, we would need to win the veto. Next week is important. If we win HoH, we avoid everything. Second is we need to win veto. 

They begin discussing words anticipating the spelling competition. Bowie says they need to think of words with little vowels because they do not put as many vowels out, "She told me that" (She=America)

Bowie says that America told her that she mentioned to Jag to put Bowie up next to Blue as a replacement because it would be the best option and that she told Bowie she would never put any of them (Matt, Jag, Bowie) up on the block.

Matt: She would!

Bowie: I trust her more than Blue. She said, 'After the nominations, I want to chat'

Matt: Why? Because she thinks you would go up?

Bowie: Maybe

Matt: She wanted you up next to America.

Jag: She would say that, regardless.

Matt: Yeah, she would take the shot.

Bowie: I really fucking want to win next week! (HoH)

Matt: Same!


9:45PM BBT

America and Blue are talking in Scrambleverse. America tells her she has been wanting to talk to her but she has also wanted time to herself since it all just happened. Blue says she understands, "Yeah, it's rough"

America: I didn't even look at the first key. (she knew it would be her)

Blue: It's never fun being on the block

Blue says she has been on the block 4 times, and Felicia has been on the block 5 times.

America: This is my third.

Blue: It never gets easier, though.

Blue wonders what the veto will be.

America: People are saying slip-n-slide but I don't think it will be slip-n-slide. I don't think it will be the word one. We already did OTEV.


10:30PM BBT

Felicia and Cirie are talking in Comicverse.

Felicia: But what we supposed to do? We can't do nothing. Well, on this one vote we can decide to go awry. But we gotta get one person to go awry with us. 

Cirie whispers to Felicia but it is very hard to hear. All I heard was "Bowie Jane" so I can assume they are discussing voting out BJ if she ends up the replacement nomination.


11:12PM BBT

America joins Felicia and Cirie in Comicverse. Discussion is about Bowie Jane following them around the house because she knows eviction is coming.

America: It's Bowie (replacement nom)

Felicia: Bowie Jane? She done sat her all season! But what does the house think?

Cirie begins talking about Louise, the side eyed ceramic cat in Comicverse that she loves so much.

[Cirie picked that bedroom when they moved in because of Louise. She felt Louise brought peace to that room and would watch over her. She feels the same about the dog in the HNR. -ML]

Cirie put a hat on Louise earlier, "I may have to take her hat off. Louise, are your ears covered up so you can't hear anything?"


11:16PM BBT

Jag is called to DR, "For who I am nominating?"

Big Brother: Yes!


11:17PM BBT

WBRB Gold Swirlies.


11:56PM BBT

Jag heads into the DR after visiting the loo in the HOHR. Matt heads to bed. Bowie Jane is already in bed, asleep.


11:57PM BBT

Blue says "good night" in Scrambleverse and heads to be in Scaryverse.


11:58PM BBT

All cameras are on a dark Scaryverse where Bowie Jane and Blue are in bed reenergizing for another day of competition.

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