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The reason you don't see anything adorable or redeeming about Elissa is BECAUSE you see her as a Grodner tool and have the assumption she was promised jury. You are already biased by your conspiracy theory.

Yes, it was Amanda that told Helen not to trust Elissa, and that's when she started to cry. I didn't get to catch it live, but they added it in the Highlights section, click on "Helen gets emotional" (if you have the feeds). However, I think Helen's crying was fake, in a good way. I think she realized that everyone is alienating Elissa, and she didn't want to be seen as associating with Elissa, so she played the "I just got played" card and fake tears. It drew A LOT of sympathy for Helen from all of the other girls (and even Judd). Later on last night, after the POV, Helen was talking to Elissa in the Have-Not room and telling her to lay low during the week and that she wants her to stay and she's going to do whatever she can to make sure she stays. I think Helen is brilliant!

6Borders, you keep saying that the whole house wants her gone, but you are wrong. Only a vocal minority want her gone, mainly the "mean girls". In fact, in private conversations, all of the following people have said they want to keep Elissa: Nick, McCrea, Helen, Howard, Spencer, and Andy. She has the numbers to stay. And that's without any "rigging". What tends to happen is a "mob mentality". Everyone is going to say out loud what they think everyone else wants to hear, so everyone keeps saying that they want to get rid of Elissa. However, in reality, most of them want her to stay. Their main reasons are: 1) they think she will always be a target, and 2) they think she will be MVP a lot, so they want to control the MVP nominee. These people are playing it smart, instead of someone like Aaryn that keeps pouting about how unfair it is that Elissa is in the house.

"And Julie said the MVP would find out who they are right before the veto comp. But when is the 3rd nominee picked? Does that person get a chance at veto?" Julie said the 3rd nominee will be announced right before veto, not the MVP. She implied that all 3 nominees will compete for veto.

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I think one of Peter's main goals was to create a "character" or at least someone people would remember. Either because he wants to be considered for future seasons, or because he wants to somehow market this persona along his YouTube channel. I think that goal got in the way of actually playing the game competently and efficiently. Oh well.

"It's only fate that by choosing Jillian, he messed with Topaz's mind so much she couldn't get Jillian off her mind and ended up putting her key in the voting slot." I love how you worded that. It's interesting how things work out sometimes, heh?

After watching her interview, I do truly feel bad for Topaz as well. Admittedly, it was a huge mistake. But, we all make mistakes. Some just have bigger consequences than others. I think the worst mistakes we can make are those that negatively affect others more so than ourselves. However, it seems like Gary took it like a champ, and everyone is moving on. Btw, I wanted to briefly address brookteag's comment. I never said Jillian didn't have integrity, and I only said what I personally hope I would do in her situation. I didn't say anything negative about Jillian and, in fact, I said Jillian won and she can do whatever she wants with her win. "When someone from another team makes a mistake we don't all go awwwwww we'll give you the win, we take advantage and claim victory, it happens all the time!" This is an incorrect comparison. Gary did not make the mistake, and it was outside of his ability to correct the mistake. Also, I'm not sure who that "we" is that takes advantage of other's mistakes, but you should really try to speak for yourself. There are many people in the world that don't do that and, therefore, you can't just use a hypothetical "we" that doesn't really exist. If you would do that, that's absolutely fine, but use "I" statements and speak for yourself. There is no "we".

Shaggy, I thought exactly that. Obviously Jillian can do as she wants because she won. However, if I was in her position, I'm pretty sure I would forfeit the win to Gary. Obviously I've never been in that position and can't say I'm 100% sure of that. However, I know myself and I like and value doing what I believe is right for me. I would not be happy with a win like that, and I would not like to take advantage/benefit from a mistake such as the one Topaz made. I want to be rewarded for my own behavior, not because of someone else's mistake. I'm pretty sure I would just say that I forfeit my win over to Gary and take second place. But, it's Jillian that won, and she can do as she wants with her win.

Yes, that I'm surprised about. I have no idea why they would believe him about jury. Even Emmett believes him! Gary must be good at lying.

Nope, I'm not surprised. Gary has really done a good job of making Emmett believe he would take Emmett to F2, while at the same time making him think that the jury wouldn't vote for Gary at F2 because they are bitter at him for coming back in. Gary has played his cards pretty well, considering the huge advantage of being in the jury for 2 weeks.

That's not exactly right Brekkie. Jillian didn't want to vote Andrew out. So if Jillian would have made it a tie, Emmett could have chosen to keep Andrew. However, Jillian voted against Andrew because Emmett wanted Andrew gone.

Emmett can definitely evict Talla. That little talk that Jillian had with Emmett on the hammock basically solidified the fact that Talla takes Jillian to F2 if she wins final HOH. And given that final HOH usually has an endurance component, Talla could possibly win it. But who knows, Emmett might feel safer if him and Jillian are against Talla for F2.

You clearly didn't watch the feeds. They cut out a lot on the episode. He had way more strategy talk with each one. He clearly didn't want to tell any of them what to do, but he asked them questions that could guide their strategy.

Just kidding. BB Canada tweeted that tomorrow is regular HOH, then 3-part HOH next week.

So they announced today that final HOH is tomorrow. What do you guys think that means? Final 3? Super HOH that gets to evict 2 people? This might be interesting because the hgs are not expecting this I think.