Heroes General Discussion
Posted 10 September 2008 - 11:20 PM
Posted 16 September 2008 - 05:57 AM
Last season was pretty good. (I enjoyed it, at least.)
It's just that the writer's strike put a halt to the season before they could work up to what they were going for.
I have faith in the writers, and am really looking forward to this season.
It's got to be hard to top that first season, but I know they can do it.
Posted 17 October 2008 - 09:03 AM
Posted 17 October 2008 - 11:06 PM
Posted 18 October 2008 - 03:48 PM
Posted 13 November 2008 - 04:44 PM
I for one appreciate it! I keep coming in and checking your posts and feeling bad that there's no discussion going on about this show. I'd probably feel better if we had some people even talking about their disappointment with the show. It seems like NO ONE cares for Heroes anymore, and it saddens me. I still like the show, and I still watch it every week!
I love the "Over-The-Top", almost unbelievable evilness of Daddy Petrelli. I'm just waiting to find out why Sylar saved Peter after apparently joining forces with "Dad"! I'm hoping that we get to see Hiro stop with the wimpy thing and turn into the "Kickin' Butt and Taking Names Later" future Hiro we saw in season 1!
There are some really good storylines going that have me hooked again! So . . . once again, Thanks Kayo!
Posted 14 November 2008 - 12:12 AM
This last episode, however, as restored a bit of my faith in the show and the writers. It was much, much better than previous ones and seemed to tie up some bothering questions I had- such as, who to root for. Although several of the characters are still in that realm of greyness, as I call it. That is, we aren't quite sure where they'll ultimately end up or where their true loyalties lie (Tracy, Sylar and Mr. Bennet come to mind). But the most recent episode answered alot by showing the back story of Angela and Daddy Petrelli. What I got out of it is that Angela is basically good, she's just a mother bear who will protect her "cubs" at all costs- even if it means using people or killing husbands. Mr. Petrelli, on the other hand, is definitely pure evil with no redeeming qualities. This was a smart move on the writers part because viewers love to have an ultimate villain to hate and an ultimate hero or heroes to root for (Peter, Hiro and Claire fit the bill). And by moving Sylar (for the time being) into that grey area, they had to have someone for us to boo and hiss at!
A couple of questions and observations I had from this episode:
1. How was Mr. Petrelli able to get a one upmanship on the painting psychic, and WHY did he have to take off his head??
2. What was he doing to Hiro- taking his powers?
3. I've thought about this quite a bit (don't ask me why) and I think I've come to the conclusion that, imo, the most powerful power to have would be the Haitian's. Hands down. No one would ever be able to touch you. Of course, I suppose they could just pull out a gun and shoot you or run you over with a bus or something...naw, I'm thinking too much...
Posted 21 November 2008 - 08:53 PM
Posted 23 November 2008 - 02:34 PM
Actually the episode before last did the best job at clarifying a few things and was my favorite one this season...and then last week's episode muddied everything up again! I am really struggling with where they are going (at this point) with the show. Another eclipse? And what was with the whole Sylar and Elle "romantic" zapping scene? Did anyone else wonder why his shirt zapped off so easily but his pants stayed magically intact? Oh, that's right, this is tv. And is anyone else besides me hoping that they do away with the "Hiro as a 10 year old" storyline PRONTO? I don't want to see Hiro and Ando constantly be the comic relief...it makes me long for future Hiro (the one Peter encountered in the subway in season one)to return!
I guess I'm a bit sad because I have been a huge fan of the show since season 1-episode 1, and I fear the writers are sinking the show. I do hope that the ones that left the show (or were fired) were the cause, and that now that they are gone the show will return to its former glory.
Posted 24 November 2008 - 06:27 AM
Posted 24 November 2008 - 12:22 PM
The question of who to root for gets answered a little bit in the episode "Villains", however, you've pretty much hit the nail on the head as to why this show has been losing some viewers.
Posted 02 February 2009 - 01:36 PM
Posted 03 February 2009 - 05:03 PM
I was intrigued with Sylar. I was waiting for him to destroy the guy he thought was his Dad after he gave Sylar the real Dad's address. You could see him raise his hand and consider, then drop his hand and walk out! Hmmmmmmmmm!
It did seem a little more like season 1 to me. I'm not so sure I'm buying in to Claire being a kick butt super hero type!
Posted 04 February 2009 - 10:12 AM
I do like the idea of the "core" heroes bonding together to fight off the villains/bad heroes. I was drawn into the storyline much more by the end of the episode, when they were on the cargo plane.
What I didn't like was the sketchiness of the "bad" guys and found it confusing...but maybe that's their intention. Anyway, I didn't like it. It's still hard for me to accept that Nathan has become the ultimate bad guy. And the fact that he also has powers makes his stance seem all the more contradictory. Couldn't someone else turn him in at any given moment? And why is mommy dearest working with him- what about her precious Peter? And Mr. Bennett?? What the...? It's not making sense to me. Oh, and didn't Peter lose his powers during the first part of the season?
I guess the thing I find most problematic is the way the show switches gears so much- I think they need to have a more cohesive, running storyline each season.
I still love Peter, Parkman and Hiro...and I actually like Claire becoming a little more independent and tough. It worked for me.
Posted 13 April 2009 - 11:24 AM
are just jumping in and it has gone completley BORING!
Posted 21 October 2009 - 10:44 AM
Posted 24 October 2009 - 12:05 AM
Posted 24 October 2009 - 07:37 AM
Posted 19 January 2010 - 09:06 AM
Grunberg cites Heroes‘ strong DVD sales and international success as two reasons the show will go on. “We will wrap it up properly in the next season and get to 100 episodes,” he maintains. “At least that’s what I would like to see happen. They take so much care in writing the show that I would hope we get the chance to end it right.
“Lost announced an end [date] and I think that helped both the people working on the show and the people watching it,” he continues. “They see the finish line and I think it gives them something tangible to invest in and be excited about. It’s like it’s a movie and they want to see the end of it. That’s what I hope happens with our show.”
Speaking of Lost, Grunberg confirms that his ill-fated Oceanic pilot will play a role in the show’s Feb. 2 season premiere. What’s the context? “Well, with [Lost], they go back and forth in time so you have no idea when and where the last season will take place,” he says. “I may get eaten all over again!” (Reporting by Carrie Bell)
Posted 09 February 2010 - 07:26 AM
Tuesday, February 09, 2010
Now that Heroes has finished season 4, the ball is in NBC's court about renewing it for yet another season. Given NBC's recent track record of decision-making, we suspect Heroes will be renewed for another five seasons right after The Biggest Loser is expanded to three-hour episodes.
But this is a very bad idea. Despite ending with "To Be Continued," the start of Volume 6 is as good as any place to end the series. Keeping Heroes on the air is a deadly mistake NBC should avoid at all costs. Here are just five of the best reasons we can think of to cancel Heroes right now.
1. The Ratings Are Terrible
If NBC wants to get out of the gutter, keeping Heroes isn't the way to do it. It's rare for a show to have such a disastrous decline in the ratings, but numbers don't lie. Here is the average number of viewers per episode of the four seasons of Heroes.
Season 1: 13.86 million
Season 2: 11.46 million
Season 3: 7.81 million
Season 4: 5.24 million
Or to put it in graph form:
In case you're bad at math, that's an 8.5 million viewer drop from season 1 to the current season, making Heroes one of NBC's lowest rated shows.
2. Hayden Panettiere's "Acting"
We're sure Hayden is a nice enough girl, but let's be honest, her acting isn't very good. Maybe it's just bad writing. Maybe it's the fact that her character has been stalled since the beginning and hasn't grown at all emotionally. Sure, she exposed her secret to the world, but the underlying problem is still that she wants to be both normal and special. The sooner Hayden is off our TV screens, the happier we'll be.
3. Nothing Matters Anymore
After four seasons, the biggest problem with Heroes is the fact that there are no ramifications to anyone's actions. Sure, Nathan is dead, but since part of his mind is still trapped inside Sylar, there's nothing to stop Sylar from morphing back into Nathan and letting his consciousness take over. After an entire season of Hiro preparing for death, he's magically cured and back to perfect health. And call me a doubter, but we've seen Sylar bounce back and forth from bad to good so many times that's it's impossible to believe his latest attempt at being a Hero. No matter how Heroes may try to change everything by exposing the secrets, the show has proven that all roads lead to Rome, or in the case of the season 4 finale, a crazy man hellbent on destroying New York City.
4. It Would Free Up Zachary Quinto
If there's one thing we agree on, it's that Zachary Quinto has huge potential. He's a great actor and incredibly handsome, and with success in Star Trek, he now has a ticket to the big leagues. Please cancel NBC so Quinto isn't burdened with such a crappy TV show.
5. It's the Only Way to Avoid Disappointment
Season 4 ended with Claire attempting to disprove her father's theory that "things change, but people don't." While it would be very nice to see that put into practice, the problem is that he's completely right. Claire still wants to be both special and normal, Peter still has to save everyone just like he did in the "Pilot" and Hiro still has all his powers and wants to fulfill his destiny.
The show has already lost its most talented writer, Bryan Fuller, TWICE! Heroes has been given chance after chance to find itself, settle down, and live up to the promise of its first season, and every time it fails. If at fourth time you don't succeed, it's time to give up.
Creator Tim Kring has proven himself to be untrustworthy when it comes to moving the story forward, so there's no reason we should think entering a "Brave New World" would change anything. Instead, let's just end on the possibility of Heroes getting better instead of the inevitability of him somehow screwing it up.
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