ConcernedQuill

1) If Jordan did to Shelly what Shelly did to Jordan....I would be saying the exact same thing about Jordan....Know that....I am NO Hypocrite!!!!! 2) If Shelly stayed aligned with Jordan......maybe Shelly and Jordan would have been up and the box would have put Rachel in harms way....how many would have routed for that one???? c'mon dede......Shelly's actions were reprehensible......you dont think so...your perogative.......but please do not attack my character as I have not done so to you. Peace

Totally Agree With You!!!

if they are television characters......is Big Brother a scripted show? and all are actors?

I dont think Jordan threw it in her face. I think Shelly provoked the emotion so Jordan engaged. Shelly chose her alliances throughout this game and is the victim of her own demise. some can accept the co-mingeling of personal and game play while others need a clear seperation. I for one need to seperate it because I do not see a reason for the change when Shelly made it. Dani was the wrong choice at the wrong time. Shelly made so many promises and declarations that she obviously had no intention of keeping. It would have made more sense (if you believe the dish shelly was serving) for Jeff, Jordan, and Shelly to get to final 3 and then to each their own. maybe in that case, we all had more respect for Shelly's position prior to all this, that there would have been way more respect for shelly's game play and possibly could have won over them both.

It is common knowledge that human behavior has us choosing a side that is most familliar or most like our own personality. Those with a stronger personality to defend against the perception of a bully will be quick to defend a weaker spirit viewed as defenseless against the superior aggression of the bully. If shelly was truly sorry for her behavior toward Jordan, she would have not carried on for more than an hour continuing her lies. Some seem to become angry at the comments that Jordan is perfect. She may not be perfect and there are some flaws to her game as well, but when you compare her to the antics of Shelly.....Jordan has re-defined the word perfect!

Shelly is in deep denial until the rest of the world gives her a reality check.....I just hope she does not end up on the next season of Celebrity Rehab ....just like the poor girl from CBS Survivor that left the show and tried to commit suicide.They knew she had deep issues by her own admition.

ok......so now Big Brother makes a twist to save face. Imho...this is what they have done. 1) They allowed Dani to talk about production, use an alleged friendship with 2 people in production and how they would leave if dani was voted off. 2) Then they allow Dani to say out loud for production to call housemates into DR for her. 3) Jeff tells us that DR makes suggestions to him that are pro Dani. 4) We hear production interacting with houseguests like we never heard before. 5) They allow an 8 yr old child to be exposed on tv and potentialy put her in harms way. 6) They are selective on whom they reprimand for whispers, lack of mic., production talk....etc. Now.....will Big Brother powers that be do the right thing and allow a simple eviction to happen to Shelly, do the regular protocol, and then pull her aside and talk to her about what happend and then further it with their suggestion that she go home to her family and forget about the jury house? Just a few thoughts to start with......... CBS does watch this forum....it is the best one on the net for a plethora of opinion and diversity not to mention the level of care and integrity it takes to maintain this type of message board.

I do have to agree with Jungle to a degree. Rachel is at least able to admit her short comings and identify her bad behavior. To me accountability goes a long way. This is something Shelly seems to be incapable of since she only identifies with it as a "game move" and nothing for what she did mentally that was unnecessary to Jordan. Some are very good at preying on kindness as weakness to which Jorden is defenseless.

agree with FatCat

1) Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is apersonality disorder. The narcissist isdescribed as being excessively preoccupied with issues of personal adequacy,power, prestige and vanity. Narcissistic personality disorder is closely linkedto self-centeredness. 2) Definition of ANTISOCIAL PERSONALITY DISORDER : a personalitydisorder that is characterized by antisocial behavior exhibiting pervasivedisregard for and violation of the rights, feelings, and safety of othersstarting in childhood or the early teenage years and continuing into adulthood

Good to know. Season 1 is the only season I did not see. Good to know, just thinking it would make it interesting to involve the audience more. Thanks Agreed

I think they should do a season where America votes for who stays and who goes and then who ultimately wins it all.........

My post was not about Jeff being evicted and I did say the "show" has become a poster child. I made reference to Shelly having a complete disregard for Jordans feelings and then has the odasity to say she does not even understand what Jordan is upset about. I think the best player in all of big brother was Dr. Will Kirby. He captivated the audience, lied to their face and told them he was doing it. he had a constant battle of whits with a season full of unarmed players. It was tasteful and with confidence not all that unlike Jeff. Sometimes people have trouble understanding assertive and confident men and women to the point that it rapidly progresses to anger and dislike. Jordan pulls on the heartstrings of america because of who she is....not who she isn't. Shelly will be damned hard pressed to find many votes out there based on the way she manipulated her fellow houseguests and america.

What I find most interesting here is that the behavior isacceptable and welcomed to a wide audience. Reality TV seems to be teaching usthat aggression and manipulation are not just welcomed but preferred. I don