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I saw the entire thing, and imo she had no business attacking him without proof that he'd moved her things. He told her GM took her baseball, and GM confirmed that last night. I think Elissa got what she asked for from him, and I was happy to see it, because women must learn to stop attacking men, and expecting them to roll over and respect them because they're females. Respect should flow in both directions.

From a game stand point, I think Mc is doing a very good job. In 8 weeks he managed to stay off the block, and he's now trying to set up a new male alliance that will take out Amanda and the other females, and they don't suspect a thing. Nice work....

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I saw the entire thing, and imo she had no business attacking him without proof that he'd moved her things. He told her GM took her baseball, and GM confirmed that last night. I think Elissa got what she asked for from him, and I was happy to see it, because women must learn to stop attacking men, and expecting them to roll over and respect them because they're females. Respect should flow in both directions.

From a game stand point, I think Mc is doing a very good job. In 8 weeks he managed to stay off the block, and he's now trying to set up a new male alliance that will take out Amanda and the other females, and they don't suspect a thing. Nice work....

and McSloth is doing all this scheming when he is laying under Amanda as she humps away. sHa_wink3.gif He is on the block now but coming off today. Unless he pisses off the Queen. sFun_kickingroin.gif

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I saw the entire thing, and imo she had no business attacking him without proof that he'd moved her things. He told her GM took her baseball, and GM confirmed that last night. I think Elissa got what she asked for from him, and I was happy to see it, because women must learn to stop attacking men, and expecting them to roll over and respect them because they're females. Respect should flow in both directions.

From a game stand point, I think Mc is doing a very good job. In 8 weeks he managed to stay off the block, and he's now trying to set up a new male alliance that will take out Amanda and the other females, and they don't suspect a thing. Nice work....

I saw this very differently.

Amanda and McCrea had been taking and hiding Elissa's things... McCrea had been using everyone's clothes drawers.. he put his filthy unwashed clothes in whatever drawer as was convenient at the time. Elissa took his filthy gear out of the three drawers that she had been using since day one and put them back into the drawers that he had stored his gear in beginning day one. Yesterday she asked that he not touch her things... Seems fair to me. He deserved everything he got from her... I would also say it's time we learn to stop requiring women to stay silent when bullied.

GM did not say that she took Elissa's baseballs... she said that she found one of them in one of the common rooms( I forget which room she said). My guess would be that Elissa is right.. They did hide her stuff(baseballs and all). They have definitely proven that that kind of thing is not beyond them... Amanda hid GM's "nick" gear... She has bullied her way through this game and most recently she left a tinkered with napkin and a condom for Elissa to find... These people are despicable.

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Well, if he DID take the balls out of her drawer, I understand why. It's because he is feeling inferior because his "wife's" balls are bigger than his.

It's too bad that he can't stand up to Amanda the way he just did to Elissa. He's a disgusting dirty worm. I mean, seriously, it'd be a stretch to describe Amanda as attractive in any way (looks, personality), but even SHE should be able to do better than McCrae.


I saw this very differently.

Amanda and McCrea had been taking and hiding Elissa's things... McCrea had been using everyone's clothes drawers.. he put his filthy unwashed clothes in whatever drawer as was convenient at the time. Elissa took his filthy gear out of the three drawers that she had been using since day one and put them back into the drawers that he had stored his gear in beginning day one. Yesterday she asked that he not touch her things... Seems fair to me. He deserved everything he got from her... I would also say it's time we learn to stop requiring women to stay silent when bullied.

GM did not say that she took Elissa's baseballs... she said that she found one of them in one of the common rooms( I forget which room she said). My guess would be that Elissa is right.. They did hide her stuff(baseballs and all). They have definitely proven that that kind of thing is not beyond them... Amanda hid GM's "nick" gear... She has bullied her way through this game and most recently she left a tinkered with napkin and a condom for Elissa to find... These people are despicable.

Monk

Thanks for setting the record straight, Monk. The "ew" factor of him putting his yucky spitty gross fingers on someone else's things is off the charts.

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and McSloth is doing all this scheming when he is laying under Amanda as she humps away. sHa_wink3.gif He is on the block now but coming off today. Unless he pisses off the Queen. sFun_kickingroin.gif

I don't concern myself with what hgs do under the sheets or who they're doing it with. Both are adults, and that is as far as I go with it.

What I've seen is Mc discussing moves with her, and even disagreeing with moves as he's currently doing. He wants Aaryn gone, and she'd like her to stay. I've also seen him argue with her about her behavior, because it could effect him. So regardless of what he does on a personal level, he is playing this game.

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I saw this very differently.

Amanda and McCrea had been taking and hiding Elissa's things... McCrea had been using everyone's clothes drawers.. he put his filthy unwashed clothes in whatever drawer as was convenient at the time. Elissa took his filthy gear out of the three drawers that she had been using since day one and put them back into the drawers that he had stored his gear in beginning day one. Yesterday she asked that he not touch her things... Seems fair to me. He deserved everything he got from her... I would also say it's time we learn to stop requiring women to stay silent when bullied.

GM did not say that she took Elissa's baseballs... she said that she found one of them in one of the common rooms( I forget which room she said). My guess would be that Elissa is right.. They did hide her stuff(baseballs and all). They have definitely proven that that kind of thing is not beyond them... Amanda hid GM's "nick" gear... She has bullied her way through this game and most recently she left a tinkered with napkin and a condom for Elissa to find... These people are despicable.

Monk

I have not seen him move any of her belongings, and I watch the feeds quite a bit. I can't imagine him doing that and putting his things with hers or dumping her things out to use that space. Elissa is not the kind of person who would put up with that once let alone multiple times.

GM said she took one of the the baseballs from the hallway, so it somehow fell out of wherever Elissa had it stored. It makes no sense for him to take her baseball, and just leave it in the middle of a hallway, instead of placing it where she couldn't find it. Regardless, if she did not see Mc do it, as stated before, she should not have attacked him. Especially in front of other house guests when she could have easily pulled him aside and questioned him. She'd just made up a lie the day before, in an attempt to rile them, so she was certainly not above doing so a second time. I just think that when a person complains about having to live with obnoxious people, he/she should not be equally obnoxious.

The incident with the napkin and condom happened after Elissa's attack on them. It was wrong for Amanda to do that, but certainly understandable. At least she didn't take Willie Hantz's form of retaliation.

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I don't concern myself with what hgs do under the sheets or who they're doing it with. Both are adults porn stars having sex on camera , and that is as far as I go with it.

What I've seen is Mc discussing moves with her, and even disagreeing with moves as he's currently doing. He wants Aaryn gone, and she'd like her to stay. I've also seen him argue with her about her behavior, because it could effect him. So regardless of what he does on a personal level, he is playing this game.

If McSloth had any brains he would get out of bed take a shower and play the game ... he may get to the end of game hiding behind Mandy but that does not make him a good player in my opinion. Even if he wins he will be known as the filthy guy that slept most of the time, had sex on camera most nights and rarely ever took a shower. I dunno dirty guys just make me want to throw up in my mouth a little.

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I have not seen him move any of her belongings, and I watch the feeds quite a bit. I can't imagine him doing that and putting his things with hers or dumping her things out to use that space. Elissa is not the kind of person who would put up with that once let alone multiple times.

GM said she took one of the the baseballs from the hallway, so it somehow fell out of wherever Elissa had it stored. Regardless, if she did not see Mc do it, as stated before, she should have not attacked him. Especially in front of other house guests when she could have easily pulled him aside and questioned him. I just think that when a person complains about having to live with obnoxious people, he/she should not be equally obnoxious.

The incident with the napkin and condom happened after Elissa's attack on them. It was wrong for Amanda to do that, but certainly understandable. At least she didn't take Willie Hantz's form of retaliation.

If you are questioning whether Amanda has it in her to take, hide, or remove someone's belongings, she has done it before as I outlined in my earlier post. McCrea has definitely shown his contempt for personal boundaries... He has trespassed upon nearly every HOH and HG's bed. Is it really a leap too far to think that he would put his filthy clothes into another HG's clothes drawers? I'd say that it's not much of a stretch.

As far as Elissa being the kind of person "who would put up with that," well, your right and she obviously did not put up with that as is displayed by her request to McCrea to steer clear of her belongings.

The baseball obviously did not fall out, crawl out, or walk away from Elissa's control... She did see Amanda going threw her things... So, all indications point to the terrible two as the culprits... and that is exactly what Elissa acted upon... They've done it before, they've repeatedly trespassed, Elissa saw Amanda going threw her belongings... They have constructed a history of acting out in bullying ways(again Nicks stuff, Napkin, Condom, screaming fights with several HG's, trespassing, threatening comments, gay slurs, racist comments, etc...) So, I have a hard time understanding your defense of their behavior.

Elissa did not attack McCrea as you keep stating. She did confront him and ask him not to touch her things... It was at this point that McCrea escalated the situation by getting loud and attacking her instead of reasonably and politely saying that he was sorry if he had overstepped a boundary. I still cannot fathom how you find her to be obnoxious with respect to this event with McCrea.

The Condom/napkin incident is certainly not understandable in any situation

Monk.

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IMO Elissa put McCrae up on the block because she's scared sh!tless of Amanda.

If Amanda were up there I'm 99% certain he wouldn't win a veto and 100% certain he wouldn't have used it on her had he the chance.

I don't pretend to be a psychic OR a detective so I won't bother with who digs through who's crap. And I don't care anyways.

Elissa has started her share of fights and certainly hasn't worn the halo a few fans slapped upon her extensions... er, head.

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If McSloth had any brains he would get out of bed take a shower and play the game ... he may get to the end of game hiding behind Mandy but that does not make him a good player in my opinion. Even if he wins he will be known as the filthy guy that slept most of the time, had sex on camera most nights and rarely ever took a shower. I dunno dirty guys just make me want to throw up in my mouth a little.

He won't be known as that by me because I tend to focus more on game play than their sexual behavior. And as long as I can't smell him, I don't worry about his personal hygiene either. Lol

As for him hiding behind "Mandy". That doesn't bother me because I don't view him that way. If he wins it will be because 5 people in jury more than likely didn't view him that way either or they simply love him regardless of his smelly self.

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IMO Elissa put McCrae up on the block because she's scared sh!tless of Amanda.

If Amanda were up there I'm 99% certain he wouldn't win a veto and 100% certain he wouldn't have used it on her had he the chance.

I don't pretend to be a psychic OR a detective so I won't bother with who digs through who's crap. And I don't care anyways.

Elissa has started her share of fights and certainly hasn't worn the halo a few fans slapped upon her extensions... er, head.

It's a bit of an inside joke, so I don't expect that you will understand this post of mine, but your post gave me good chuckle, and for that, I thank you.

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If you are questioning whether Amanda has it in her to take, hide, or remove someone's belongings, she has done it before as I outlined in my earlier post. McCrea has definitely shown his contempt for personal boundaries... He has trespassed upon nearly every HOH and HG's bed. Is it really a leap too far to think that he would put his filthy clothes into another HG's clothes drawers? I'd say that it's not much of a stretch.

As far as Elissa being the kind of person "who would put up with that," well, your right and she obviously did not put up with that as is displayed by her request to McCrea to steer clear of her belongings.

The baseball obviously did not fall out, crawl out, or walk away from Elissa's control... She did see Amanda going threw her things... So, all indications point to the terrible two as the culprits... and that is exactly what Elissa acted upon... They've done it before, they've repeatedly trespassed, Elissa saw Amanda going threw her belongings... They have constructed a history of acting out in bullying ways(again Nicks stuff, Napkin, Condom, screaming fights with several HG's, trespassing, threatening comments, gay slurs, racist comments, etc...) So, I have a hard time understanding your defense of their behavior.

Elissa did not attack McCrea as you keep stating. She did confront him and ask him not to touch her things... It was at this point that McCrea escalated the situation by getting loud and attacking her instead of reasonably and politely saying that he was sorry if he had overstepped a boundary. I still cannot fathom how you find her to be obnoxious with respect to this event with McCrea.

The Condom/napkin incident is certainly not understandable in any situation

Monk.

I don't make it a habit of defending bad behavior. If they're wrong I will call it, as I did about the napkin and condom incident. What I will not do is jump on a bandwagon and rip people apart over something I have not witnessed. The only house guest I've seen hiding things was Jessie shortly before she left.

I don't know how the baseball got on the floor in front of Mc and Elissa's storage unit, but I'm certainly not going to join her in accusing him of putting it there, because as stated before, that simply makes no sense to me. I'm really not questioning whether he and Amanda are capable of doing such, because everyone there is. My question is why did Elissa choose to attack him without absolute proof? I don't buy that she saw them move things multiple times, and never said anything directly to them or complain about it to BB. I just don't. BB would have said something to them had they seen that, and she reported it, just as they told Amanda yesterday to lay off Elissa with her "torture" antics after Elissa complained.

It's okay to disagree with me about any and/or all of this. I don't understand how or why you have an opposite viewpoint of this as well. It's the beauty of exchange between individuals.

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I have not seen him move any of her belongings, and I watch the feeds quite a bit. I can't imagine him doing that and putting his things with hers or dumping her things out to use that space. Elissa is not the kind of person who would put up with that once let alone multiple times.

GM said she took one of the the baseballs from the hallway, so it somehow fell out of wherever Elissa had it stored. It makes no sense for him to take her baseball, and just leave it in the middle of a hallway, instead of placing it where she couldn't find it. Regardless, if she did not see Mc do it, as stated before, she should not have attacked him. Especially in front of other house guests when she could have easily pulled him aside and questioned him. She'd just made up a lie the day before, in an attempt to rile them, so she was certainly not above doing so a second time. I just think that when a person complains about having to live with obnoxious people, he/she should not be equally obnoxious.

The incident with the napkin and condom happened after Elissa's attack on them. It was wrong for Amanda to do that, but certainly understandable. At least she didn't take Willie Hantz's form of retaliation.

Well it's all in the eye of the beholder and in most ppls eyes mcmanda are a disgusting duo, she should of pulled him aside? That's laughable, since when has either of mcmanda pulled anyone aside ? Oh once when Amazebeotch said something to Aryn which I am sure was prompted by production, as Amanda is just as hypercritical and bullish as the rest of them, sorry some ppl only see what they want to see, I see it exactly as Monk saw it, and I rarely watch the feeds, you don't have to watch every single thing to know what is goin on in that house

I don't make it a habit of defending bad behavior. If they're wrong I will call it, as I did about the napkin and condom incident. What I will not do is jump on a bandwagon and rip people apart over something I have not witnessed. The only house guest I've seen hiding things was Jessie shortly before she left.

I don't know how the baseball got on the floor in front of Mc and Elissa's storage unit, but I'm certainly not going to join her in accusing him of putting it there, because as stated before, that simply makes no sense to me. I'm really not questioning whether he and Amanda are capable of doing such, because everyone there is. My question is why did Elissa choose to attack him without absolute proof? I don't buy that she saw them move things multiple times, and never said anything directly to them or complain about it to BB. I just don't. BB would have said something to them had they seen that, and she reported it, just as they told Amanda yesterday to lay off Elissa with her "torture" antics after Elissa complained.

It's okay to disagree with me about any and/or all of this. I don't understand how or why you have an opposite viewpoint of this as well. It's the beauty of exchange between individuals.

He's not the only one with this viewpoint and there is no " beauty " in condoning nasty outrageous behavior, even tho it's BB I have never quite seen any group of ppl as houseguests as wrong and nasty as this bunch in any season of BB.

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CarmenPanter: " I can't look at McCrae the same now after amanda disclosed he has a huge an pretty umm "dang a lang"

There's an old song "My Ding-aLing" by Chuck Berry.

I'd sing it for you - but don't want the Topic to go FOTH

Makes me think of Amanda and her addiction to McNasty's

Is thinking about this again , lawds! lmao ! His new nickname to me now is McBigMac !

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His true self is showing! I would really think twice about buying a pizza for him to deliver in the future!

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If McSloth had any brains he would get out of bed take a shower and play the game ... he may get to the end of game hiding behind Mandy but that does not make him a good player in my opinion. Even if he wins he will be known as the filthy guy that slept most of the time, had sex on camera most nights and rarely ever took a shower. I dunno dirty guys just make me want to throw up in my mouth a little.

Water is to him, what Kryptonite is to Superman!

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McCrea's conversation with Elissa last night was ridiculous. How can he sit there and act like she turned against her allies by nominating him? He wasn't her ally and he knows it. He and Amanda took the first shot last week when they voted out Helen.

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Exactly ShaunnaR! They were never her allies. Amanda has him thinking like her, no one should put them up they are K&Q of the house. Sooo don't want him or Amazon to win next HOH.

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McCrea's conversation with Elissa last night was ridiculous. How can he sit there and act like she turned against her allies by nominating him? He wasn't her ally and he knows it. He and Amanda took the first shot last week when they voted out Helen.

She was a side ally through Helen, so it made sense for him to say that. That's like saying Enzo or Hayden would not have the right to be mad at Britney for putting one of them on the block when she was their side ally through Lane. Elissa sat in on game talk, agreed with he, Amanda, Helen and Andy on who to nom etc., as Britney did with the Brigade.

And if one of them had found out Lane was behind their back with another house guest trying to evict them, you better believe they would have had him go on the block. Helen turned on them, and people were telling them about it. They did the right thing by getting rid of her.

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She was a side ally through Helen, so it made sense for him to say that. That's like saying Enzo or Hayden would not have the right to be mad at Britney for putting one of them on the block when she was their side ally through Lane. Elissa sat in on game talk, agreed with he, Amanda, Helen and Andy on who to nom etc., as Britney did with the Brigade.

Yeah and when they voted out Helen over Spencer all that went out the door. They threw the first punch!

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Yeah and when they voted out Helen over Spencer all that went out the door. They threw the first punch!

They were suppose to evict her over Spencer!!!! They weren't behind Helen's back plotting to evict her, she and Elissa turned on them, so they threw the first punch, and then lied on poor Jessie when she and Mc found out about it. They owed Elissa nothing at that point.

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She was a side ally through Helen, so it made sense for him to say that. That's like saying Enzo or Hayden would not have the right to be mad at Britney for putting one of them on the block when she was their side ally through Lane. Elissa sat in on game talk, agreed with he, Amanda, Helen and Andy on who to nom etc., as Britney did with the Brigade.

And if one of them had found out Lane was behind their back with another house guest trying to evict them, you better believe they would have had him go on the block. Helen turned on them, and people were telling them about it. They did the right thing by getting rid of her.

Lane, Enzo and Hayden treated Brittany with respect and fully intended to take her to the final four! At that point they told her what was going on and felt so bad for having to trick her. They all really were good people that liked one another. There is no way to compare these crazy people with them!

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The ONLY good think I can say about him is he has pretty eyes! That's it!

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I think the McMandas are starting to realize they need replacement minions with Aryan going home and Andy an acknowldeged floater/liar. Elissa can't compete for HOH next week but her vote will be a real factor if she comes off the block (cannot forsee anyone NOT putting her up except for Judd and even that is iffy). Notice I an ignoring GM as I cannot imagine a contest she could win : ).

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