Jump to content
echo

The Bachelor- Ben Flajnik

Recommended Posts

echo   

^^ Nothing surprises me with this show. And it wouldn't surprise me if they setup her up one way or another simply so they have someone that leaves the show suddenly (it part of their formula\script)

Pre-production meeting:

Head Producer: Looks like we have everything in place, except for we have not decided who we want to throw off the show. Any ideas?

Assistant producers: I think that Casey S is hot. Let me see if I can sleep with her.

Head Producer: Naw, we already did the "producer-bimbo" thing once a few seasons ago.

Assistant producer: How about if I sleep with her, then during production we surprise her by saying you just found out, but give her the option to leave because she got a boyfriend at home. Pretty sure she'll go with boyfriend story than look like a total slut on prime time TV for having slept with a married producer.

Head Producer: That might work. Go see if you can seduce her.

Assistant Producer: I already did. She was in my office last night; she was making so much god damn noise security knocked on my door to see if everything was alright...lol

Head Producer: Damn, you're too good. Some day you're going to make a great head producer.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I literally can't watch this show with feeling repulsed.

I joined the last 10 minutes last night to watch some ridiculousness with Courtney and within seconds was hating what this program has become.

I honestly can't remember a bachelor less appealing since Duckface/Alex (I think that was his name). But even with Duckface the show had a Cinderella appeal to it. Not anymore.

I am sure Ben is a nice guy but he is blah for TV and the "manufactured drama" is just terrible.

I think it is time to retire this show or somehow get it back to its roots..

I think that ABC and related companies like People magazine keep trying to promote these people as stars of some sort And it is just annoying and I am getting to resent having these nothings forced upon us like they are something special.

Totally unrelated side note: Hi txcyclone...I have seen your name on Morty's for years but we seem to run in different circles during Big Bro. I am speculating you may be named after the roller coaster in Fiesta TX? or, maybe like me is is just a reference to a nickname and/or generic Cyclone was already. Or it might just be that you are another windbag...like myself :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Slowpoke   

I don't feel like he really likes any of them romantically.

The poor guy is floundering around saying about the same thing to every one of them.

..... Truthfully... this is the 1st time I've watched about 4 shows of any of the series for Bachelor.

BUT... I'm having a blast watching that :stirthepot: biatch (I think you know who I mean)

I laugh thru at least half of the show.

They have GOT to be kidding....

Me thinks the show has finally sunk to Dumpsville.

Bye Bye 'The Bachelor' ..... SNAP

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
echo   

^^ I agree, he does not appear to serious about any of them. Likes them at best. And if the rumors flying around have any truth, he's going to make an unpopular decision in the final show, a decision that is an option created by the producers to allow the Bachelor out of actually having to be REALLY engaged to someone who he does not want to marry.... But, rumors are rumors, so we shall see what happens.

Kacie B appears to be clear favorite, but she might also be the clear favorite to be the next Bachelorette after Emily Maynard. The way they are editing the entire season there does not appear to be a strong, soul mate, bond going on with Kacie or any of the other woman. If we are seeing the best romantic footage they got, its stuff that could make it into any Disney movie for preteens.

Another thing to take note, there is no "Over-night-date" this season (according to the previews). That is very telling, if he doesn't want to sleep any of them, or they won't sleep with him, then the season is a total bust (which it appears to be). Not that true love means they have to go on national TV and agree to have premartial sex, but you can bet to get on this show, the women are asked "Would you be willing to have sex with bachelor if he were to ask you on a over night date?". At the very least, they need to agree in advance they would seriously consider it, otherwise they aren't going to make the list of 25. Wouldn't surprise me if several of them say: "I'll F*** his brains out the first night if you want". And based on history of this show over the years, many of the woman have had one night stands on many occations before\after being on the Bachelor, and use sex to get what they want, and to get ahead professionally. At best 1-2 each season is the girl next door type that is truly selective, and doesn't have a long history of sleeping with guys going all the way back to high school.

What maybe the strangest part of this season is the woman who gets the most air time is "The Bitch", Courtney. She gets as much air time as Ben, while the rest of the nicer girls are almost background characters. Courtney is nearly has bad as Bentley in terms of constantly trash talking. It seems clear to me that the producers are coaching her, and she knows her role on the show is to be the bitch. The next woman to get more air time than the others was Emily, and that is because she having cat fights with Courtney. And of course they wait to send her home just before the home town date, so they can have those two create (fake) drama. We hardly know the other 3 women who have gotten home town dates, and the one we know the best is The Bitch.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
SugarB   

Very possibly the worst Bachelor everrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Big doofus.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
echo   

Courtney. For those who follow Reality Steve, I am going to disagree with his belief that Ben is madly in love with Courtney (ie just madly wants to have sex with her). I have very little doubt that Courtney is hired by the producers to play the Bitch and also provide Ben with a way to exit without actually choosing one of the real women there (Kacie, Nicki, Lindzi). This entire season she gotten exclusive access to Ben that no other woman was allowed, all of which is staged\scripted by the producers to give the show more drama. Do not believe for a moment that any of the women are free to sneak off and have secret hookups (ie skinny dipping) without it being OK'ed by the producers in advance, and all the women know that. And if, by chance, it were OK for any of the women to do whatever they wanted, the bachelor would be having an orgy with at least a half dozen woman the first night, and every night. And to get a head, they would would be doing more than flashing their boobs on prime time TV as Courtney did, they'd doing the same crap seen in hardcore porn videos. Not all the women would stoop so low, but Ben wouldn't need every single one in his bed at night, 1-2 would be enough. Sorry, the Courtney drama is faked and scripted. Even her home own date date was BS. Maybe her parents might have been in the dark, or maybe given just enough info to know their wasn't any true romance, and then through the magic of editing, it was made to seem more real than what actually happen. To me her home town date appeared scripted; I mean, come'on now, a fake wedding where they practice their vows, that truly was awful, and it was intentionally scripted to be awful. They've even done it before as a joke a few season ago on the Bachelette. If the producers wanted to make it truly romantic, we clearly have seen in the past that the show has the money and high production values to create some amazing (fantasy) romantic moments; this one was a big bad dud, like getting married by the justice of the peace. Surely no woman watching the show was swept of her feet by that one, nor was it intended to be either.

Kacie B. She and the other three women are real. Nothing fake about them, at least they not hired by the producers nor added because the producer's research found they had a personality flaw that would add a lot of drama. Kacie was sent home, maybe some what of a surprise because she was the hands down favorite to make it to the final rose ceremony. Then again, she maybe a future Bachelorette in training. I can only speculate why she was sent how after her home town date. It would appear that maybe in the next episode there might be an over night date or something sexual that's wasn't agreeable to Kacie plus Ben had decided that he would not propose to her anyway, thus to save her from further rejection, they let her go before getting to the point where she would refuse to get naked in bed with Ben, or worse she does accept an over night date (I think she would have) has sex with him, only to get the rejected further at the final rose. Imagine her parents reaction watching their daughter agree to have premarital sex on national TV, then have Ben reject her during the final rose episode. Man, in the South that's akin to saying to them: "I slept with your daughter which makes her a total slut that everyone throughout the South now knows she's nothing but a common whore" Overall, Ben never seemed interested in her beyond thinking she was a very nice girl, some one he'd like as a friend, but not marry. But, I also beleive that is how he feels about all the remaining woman. Basically he has no romantic interest in any of them. High probability she'll get an offer to be a future Bachelorette, or god forbid, appear on the the truly god awful Bachelor Pad, where wannabe reality celberties are willing to have sex on a major prime time reality show. Let's hope Kacie does not stoop that low in her attempt to break free from her parents and live her own life. Bachelor Pad is not the place to do it.

Lindzi. Nice person, but I think its pretty clear she loves horses more than Ben, and he knows it. Whenever she does get married, its going to be to some guy that loves horses too. That, or she becomes an old maid that everyone comes to know as "The Crazy Horse Lady" that once was on the Bachelor.

Nicki. Another woman Ben would like as a friend, but never would marry. Both her and Lendzi, and even Kacie B, hardly got any air time for the audience to get a sense of their personality and relationship with Ben; clearly a lot of stuff happened that never made it on the show. These three woman truly appeared be in love with Ben, but they were were mostly background characters in show that was highly dominated by Courtney bitching about them. And even when Courtney was bitching, she was ranting about stuff we never saw. Country was bitching about how they were spending so much time with Ben, and she wasn't. When? we never got to see much of it. Its hard to talk about any of them with much detail because they got so little air time.

And by the way, when Courtney flashed her boobs (last episode), do you think it was for Ben? Nope, more like flashing her boobs as a message to the publishers of Playboy saying "Give me call".

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
jenw_72   

I've never wanted to jump threw my TV screen so bad and slap someone!!!!! WTH he sent Kacie home!?! Ugh this man is gonna kick himself in the rear end. I like Linzie and Nikki but he had such chemistry with Kacie... ugh I am so disappointed right now.

Oh and my opinion on Courtney well it is not a good opinion so I got nothing to say about her except RUN BEN RUN

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
echo   

I've never wanted to jump threw my TV screen so bad and slap someone!!!!! WTH he sent Kacie home!?! Ugh this man is gonna kick himself in the rear end. I like Linzie and Nikki but he had such chemistry with Kacie... ugh I am so disappointed right now.

Oh and my opinion on Courtney well it is not a good opinion so I got nothing to say about her except RUN BEN RUN

Well if the rumors hold true, the next two episodes only get worse. Basically, if you were to rank the remaining three girls, well, Ben ranks them in the revervse order, leaving the TV auduances saying "Your F'ing kidding, he pick her? Maybe he's the type of guy that loves abuse and can't get enough of it.".... From a guy's perspective we call it being pussy-whipped or a guy with no you-know-what between his legs. Other than that, it just makes you wonder if the guy is simply gay and is looking for a Fag Hag (hey, gays have no problem with that slang term).

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Marty   

I honestly don't see Ben showing any chemistry with any of the girls. I am really shocked he sent Kacie home. Wow.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Slowpoke   

I was innocently standing in the line at the grocery store waiting to unload my cart....

when I looked over at the magazines at the end of the check out line.

Guess who was on the front of US Weekly ????

http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/bachelors-courtney-robertson-calls-other-girls-fatty-horsey-2012232

:frusty:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
echo   

I honestly don't see Ben showing any chemistry with any of the girls. I am really shocked he sent Kacie home. Wow.

hi Marty... my guess is that they sent her home because tonight is the overnight date. Behind the scenes the decision was likely made by the producers so that she didn't have to deal with the choice of accepting or turning him down. It really wouldn't have matter what she decided if she was going to be last girl standing, but since she wasn't, it really would have looked bak if she accepted to have premarital sex on National TV, but then he rejected her. It would look like she was rejected for being (assumed) virgin or a girl with very little sexual experience. If she turned down his offer, the it would look like she was rejected because she was didn't have sex with him. If she was a virgin, it truly would have been a cruel joke to force her into having sex if she wasn't ready for it (yeah, even at 24)..... IMHO, Kacie is being groomed to be a future bachelorette, so they want to make her look as good as possible if she accepts that offer. I'm firm convienced that the producers decide what order each woman is sent home, Ben just informs the producers which girls he likes. Hell, it highly probable (90%) that Ben has known who he would pick within the first 10 days of shooting, from that point forward, the other girls are sent home based what drama chemistry they have together to get good TV ratings.

If you want to believe my personal theory\speculation on how the show works, I think she was specifically cast to be on the show as a screen test for being a future bachelorette. It gives her experience\training of being in front of the camera and how production works, and the producers can see if the audience likes her enough to be a future bachelorette.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
echo   

Seems pretty clear that Ben is going to pick Country as the love of his life (for 3-6 months), while every single person who watches the show is running to the bathroom hoping to make it to the toilet before they throw up.

The question is not so much why did he pick her, but why did the producers make her look like the biggest bitch on TV? Abby-Fairgate-Ewing could have taken lessons from Coutrney. If a person wants to be naive and beleive that they are just showing her the way she truly is, then might as well beleive in Santa. The producers have 110% control over how the show is edited, and they can make anyone look great, bad, or anywhere in between. If they wanted, they could have made this season' sweet heart look like a total bimbo or even a total bitch, simply by selecting her worst moments in front of the camera, and editing into the show out of context. In the case of Courtney, we rarely got to see anything that made her look remotely likeable. At best, the likeable parts of her personality seemed forced and self-serving, like an actress crying on cue. I still beleive she was hired by the producers and acted like a bitch because that was what she was paid to do, not because that is how she is in real life, at least not to the same degree that we see on the show. Maybe she is a bitch who is good at playing the bitch. My best guess at this point remains that at the start of the season there no more than 4 real girls that the bachelor (Ben) is looking at, all the rest are whackos of some kind, or hired women to play a role. IMHO, emily and Courtney were both hired to play off each other. At some point Ben decides hed does not like any of the 4 real women. Since Ben decided that non of the 4 real women are a good match for him, then he has the option of selecting one of the hired women to be his fake fiance for 6 months. Hey, its not against the law to get engaged to someone who you never intent to marry or even lie on national TV and say that you did.. And if it is indeed is completely fake, both Ben & Emily get nice big paychecks for completing their contracts which is to get engaged on national TV. I am guessing 6 figures is the amount they are getting paid to stay engaged for 6 months. The show doesn't care what happens to them once the next season starts, they are old news by that time, and everyone has come to expect that these enagements are on par with falling in love in the 6th grade; if its last 3-4 months, everybody thinks its true love.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
jenw_72   

I think Ben is stupid and when he picks monkey face Courtney he gets what he deserves.He was warned but all the other girls and he ignored it,,Next time he better start using the head on his shoulders.I dont even think Courtney is pretty at all.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
echo   

I think Ben is stupid and when he picks monkey face Courtney he gets what he deserves.He was warned but all the other girls and he ignored it,,Next time he better start using the head on his shoulders.I dont even think Courtney is pretty at all.

The rumors are that this entire season is a complete sham\bust. He's not picking her because he madly in love with her, he is picking her because is not madly in love with anyone of the women. Personally, I'm confident he does a big paycheck if he completes his contract and asks one of them to marry him, and it might be even bigger $$$$ one if she says yes. Same deal goes for the bimbo who says yes. Therefore, there is a huge incentive for both to agree to a fake romance. I could see something like this happening during the filming, when the cameras are off.

Ben: I don't want to marry any of these woman, and i know you''re here to promote your carreer. How about we strike a deal?

Coutney: What kind of deal do you have in mind?

Ben: I take you to the end end and propose, that way we both get a huge paycheck and huge boost to our professional careers.

Courtney: I like that deal, and we can milk it for several months after the show and then have a fake break up, or maybe go on the Amazing Race.

Ben: that's even better. was fake a romanance for a while that way we can't get even more exposure after the show.

Courtney: I am hoping that playboy will call.

Ben: That would be cool too, and then later I'll get to say I was engaged to a playboy bunny!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
jenw_72   

haha I am willing to bet thats how it is too.. Sad when reality shows are all fake now with scripts

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
echo   

Oppps

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
echo   

The Women tell all was like watching an episode of Jerry Springer, lots and lots of yelling, woman calling each other names that had to be bleeped out for national TV.

While they didn't confirm that Courtney was chosen by Ben, it was something everyone in studio knew to be true from having read Reality Steve. Personally, I didn't believe her tears were real, and the moment she left and behind the cameras she most certainly said something like "What a bunch of dumb F'ing Bitches". Doubtful that Ben care either because he glad he didn't have to propose to any of them. My best guess is that Ben made up his mind pretty damn early; no later than week 3. Not so much that he wanted Courtney, more like like he knew he wouldn't date any of the women seriously, so the came up with his plan to take Courtney to the end, and Lendzi was just a pawn. And I still firmly believe all of this happened with the producers fully in the loop, if not working directly with Ben on what he should say\do to make sure the girls remained under his and their control. For example, the producers are constantly feeding the egos of the girls, as well as fueling the flames of conflict with other girls. It goes something like this:

Producer: You're so beautiful today, every time I talk to Ben, he say he crazy is about you. I can't repeat what he says, but just know thinks you're one of best women here.

Bachelorette: Thanks, some days I just don't know what to think, or even if he likes me at all.

Producer: You have nothing to worry about, Ben can see a future with you?

Bachelorette: You really think so?

Producer: I know so for a fact. Its all the other girls that should be worried, but not you.

Bachelorette: I know what you mean, some of those bitches shouldn't even be here. they just want to promote their careers and get as much TV time as they can.

Producer: Not only are you attractive, but you clearly are very insightful. Ben knows that too. He thinks you're highly intelligent and he loves that about you.

Bachelorette: Wow... he really thinks that about me.

Producer: You're the total package, smart, beautiful, successful, independent. What more could he want?

Bachelorette: You're right, I all those things.

Producer: And much much more!!!

The producers would be much more personal and focus in on what really would boast their individual ego and give them a high level of confidence, which is why so many of them are blindsided when they get sent home. The producers know well in advance who being sent home, but the will continue to make sure each woman feels like they are #1 on Ben's list. So its not so much what Ben says to them, its what BS the producers tell each one. If any of this were real, which of course its not, many of the women would loose interest in Ben pretty quickly because he's not the type of guy they like. And as the group gets small and smaller, most of them would start to get a strong sense that things are not working out, but that where the producers step in and make sure REALITY never has a chance to be controlling factor.

Reality Steve. He does get some good info, but IMHO, a lot of what he gets is intensionally leaked to him by the producers, even the results. There are two groups of viewers, one group totally buys into the show's fake reality and think what is shown is real, and the other group follow his blog thus knowing the results in advance. By feeding Steve info, they control what he knows and does not know, and makes the show fun for those who love to hate it. The second group has their fun after each episode, reading Steve's blog, posting their own comments, and asking him questions. The producers don't care if the results are known, as long as its not reported in the mass media. Reality Steve is helps promote the show which increases the ratings, so they really don't care what he does as long as its increases the ratings.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Slowpoke   

This season of the show has become a real joke....

Sooooo....

I watched a little bit of Ellen today and she's done 2 spoofs about this show that I've seen.

Here's one http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00047913.html

(you'll have to scroll down a little for video)

And you can also Google .... Ellen's video of her on The Bachelor Women Tell All You Tube.

At least you might get a little giggle out of this rediculous thing.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
jenw_72   

ha-ha-ha Ellen cracks me up. That was good.Thanks for sharing.

I think it's a real shame that they are ruining this show,but either way it's still entertaining. It may be fake but I do watch tv to be entertained...lol

I really hate that they make all the reality shows scripted now. What's the reality in a script? lol

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
echo   

ha-ha-ha Ellen cracks me up. That was good.Thanks for sharing.

I think it's a real shame that they are ruining this show,but either way it's still entertaining. It may be fake but I do watch tv to be entertained...lol

I really hate that they make all the reality shows scripted now. What's the reality in a script? lol

Yeah.... you can take any of it seriously nor assume very much of it is real.

The fact the show itself promotes Courtney as "The most hated woman in america" is clear sign the show is exactly what the producers want it to be. They wanted all 10 million viewers hating her because she is no different than a Soap Bitch that everyone loves to hate, its good for the show. If the producers wanted her to be more likable, they could have edited out all the "Winning" comments and endless (scripted) nasty comment she made, and only kept the footage where she was sweet and nice. But the thing is, the producer gave her specific instructions on what to do, and what to say, to be this season's nasty bitch that everyone one hates; that was what they hired her to do, and all the crying we've seen her do, is all part of the plan after Ben evaluated the 4 real woman, and decided he wasn't interested in them. Once he told the produce he couldn't see himself dating any of the woman, that was when the producers switched to Plan B, and it was decided that Courtney would be the woman Ben choose at the end. Plan B is all scripted from the moment they start filming, and only takes effect if he decides he would not date any of the women after the show. If he had been truly interested in one of the women, then the show would have a been fairy tale romance from start to finish; and the romance not faked, even if the naked swims with Courtney were scripted. For example if Ben was truly in love with Lindzi and proposed to her at the end, later Ben just tell her very canidily "All that crap you see me doing with Courtney, its totally scripted by the producers, its all faked, so don't take any of it seriously" thus, Lindzi wouldn't be upset by something she knew was fake.

Unless they can get a gig on the Amazing (boring) Race, Dancing with the Dorks or some other reality show, the producers will time a public breakup toward the end of Bachellorette with Emily. You can easily see that it will be announced that Ben & Courtney's trouble relationship was not able to overcome their trust issues, etc, etc, etc. Mean while Courtney modeling\acting career has taken off with an offer from Playboy, and Ben's Wine business has gotten several million dollar new contracts.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Slowpoke   

Echo quote: " and Ben's Wine business has gotten several million dollar new contracts. "

WHY... oh WHY would anyone put their trust and money into anything that this guy

is associated with ???

Seems like business men would distance themselves from him and his judgement.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
echo   

Echo quote: " and Ben's Wine business has gotten several million dollar new contracts. "

WHY... oh WHY would anyone put their trust and money into anything that this guy

is associated with ???

Seems like business men would distance themselves from him and his judgement.

If he is a bad business man, they probably won't. If he is perceived as being a smart man for being able to get on national TV in an effort to promote himself (therefore his business), then he'll earn a lot of respect from others who are in the same business. And the bottomline really is about making money, so if his being a celerity helps them make more money, they could care less about his personal life.

Another thing that made me laugh about After The Final Rose. The show spent the last 20 minutes interviewing Ashley & JP because the producers (and ABC) wanted the season to end on positive note demonstrating that the series does create real romantic couples that live-happily-ever-after. Well maybe, the couple has not yet gotten married, but clearly there is no doubt that they are in love and have real life plans to get married.

Overall I see the series as having a split personality 1) a show that truly does try to create lasting match between two people. 2) A show that fakes\script a lot of drama. And if there is no real romance during a season (like this season, and the season with Jake and Veinna), then the producers go with Plan B, a fake romance with high drama. I personally do not believe for a moment that Ben and Courtney are a real couple with love in their hearts for each other. I think they are a fake couple created because there wasn't any real romance to be found this season. No way would Chris say at the end of the season: "Ben met at all the women, went on several dates, but has decided he doesn't want to date anyone of them after the show. See you all next season, maybe we'll have better luck".... Nope that is not good enough, producers would rather create a fake romance than be honest that the season was a total bust out. My guess by the end of week 2, Ben had decided that he would not propose to any of the women, so from that point forward, the season was over as far as finding true romance.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
echo   

And I love the producers send Lendzi to do post Bachelor interviews and guest appearances, rather than have Ben & Courtney do them.

Lendzi did an outstanding job on Jimmy Kimmel. And IMHO, I am beginning to wonder if she was also an insider as to what was really going on behind the scene during filming. On Jimmy Kimmel, she was very well prepped and completely at ease, bantering with Kimmel who, as you might expect, was totally ruthless about the show, especially Ben & Courtney. Lendzi wasn'teven remotely upset about how things turned out, she had a great time and nothing to bitch about, not even Courtney. Maybe she never really felt any love for Ben either, but had a great time traveling the world on a fake romance, and even a better time now. Now, she gets to do all the TV interviews, while Courtney has to sit at home watching (alone).

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


×