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This is too funny (not laughing at her), its evidence to my casting forumula; they stack each season with individuals who are only there to be eliminated (zero chance to win). There are no more than 4 singles that have a chance. They all may beleive they have a chance, but most likely several understand they were chosen to create drama\shock (like this middle age woman), and the producers will protect them for a while, but ultimately they will be sent packing. http://www.zap2it.co...helorettes-pics,0,7962321.photogallery?index=25 Bachalorette.jpg

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I think I read that she is just someone's Mom or Grandma and she gets out of the car to introduce them or something. I don't think she's an actual contestant on the show.

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Season Premiere is Jan 2 at 8/7c on ABC

No info on the girls yet but there should be some soon....

Bios

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I don't think the Bachelor franchise will go the route of incorporating the token 'mature adult'!!!

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Who are the real 4 girls Ben is evaluating, and who are just there to provide drama?

Well we know for sure its not going to be Monica (The Bitch) and Jenna (Bi-polar wacko) because they were cast on the show to have a series of cat fights that surely will last for half the season.

Also, the girl who got the First Impression Rose is goner too. They should call it a "Friendship rose", or the "First Rose of Death", because by design the first immpression rose is given to someone who will be sent home sometime after the halfway point. The first rose is like the Immunity Idol on Suvivor, except on The Bachelor it gives the girl two things, safety until the half way point, but also kiss of death. The first impression rose really means on the very first day the Bachelor has made the decision she is going home; he thinks she a nice person keep around as a for being a nice person\friend, but not a girl he feels any attraction. Only he and the producers know this about the first rose, the girls do not.

Here are a few key things to keep in mind when watching The Bachelor:

  • The person who gets the very last Rose at the end of each episode is really getting the "Rose of Death" or kiss of death just like in Godfather, that person is going home in a future episode; dead woman walking.
  • The Bachelor does not select who is sent home, except when he selects the winner (thus, the other girl gets the option to be next Bachelorette). How the show really works is that he basically discusses with the producers which girls he is not attacted to, and the producers decide who goes home based on what the producers feel makes for good TV (drama). Some girls stick around for a long time because they created drama (ie cat fights), not because the Bachelor wants to kept them, he might even prefer a few go home in a very different order. Truely, when they start filming there are really only about 4 girls who the bachelor feels any attraction and he knows it pretty much the first couple of days of shooting. The rest he may like on a personal level, but would never ask them out on a romantic date. Friends maybe, but no romance. And the flip side is just as true, many of the girls don't feel a romantic connection either, but they want to stick around as long a possible for the fame, money, and hopes their antics get them on other reality shows like Bachelor Pad. Just take a look at all wackos on bachelor Pad, do you really think any of them are looking to find true love, or simply want to be a reality TV star, same is true for all of them when trhey first appeared on The Bachelor\Bachelorette.
  • Some 1:1 dates aren't true dates, they are kind of fake dates; you can tell because the date lacks the romantic music and high production values $$$$, these dates tend to be fun and funny, more like two friends having a good time rather a couple falling in love; such fake dates are never seriously romantic; holding hands but not much than that. The bachelor & the producers know that he is not seriously interested in the girl, the date is created for the purpose of having stuff\variety to show on TV show, even if the relationship will never progress further than friends. And of course, a couple of the fake dates are just major bombs, with funky\clunky music, a lot of awkward moments, wierd facial expressions, really stupid things a person never should say on a date, etc.
  • All filming is completed before they edit the footage into episodes, thus the girl the bachelor select is known and each episode is carefully edited not to reveal too much. But... There are ways to identify the potential winner because she's never ever is shown with any serious personality flaws nor too extreme one way or another. She's not shown as bitchy, or a schemer, or involved in all the cat fight drama. However, there was one exception that has happened in the past, where Jake chose Vienna not because he wanted to marry her, but because he didn't want to marry any of the girls; she was his escape clause. Someone like him, who was into it for the fame\money\etc; basically they used each other to get what they both wanted, and didn't want. And they didn't want love. That entire season was a total scam from the start. Gay boy Jake likes sleeping with guys, not girls, so no way in hell is going to marry one. But wouldn't it a be a total hoot to have Jake come back, but next time have it be a gay version, Jake tries to find love among a bunch of flaming gay hunks.

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Tonight we should see some good cats fights and backstabing along with a few tender moments on a romantic date.

Just a reminder, the girl who gets the last rose of the evening is really getting "The Rose of death". The last rose really means he had decided truly interested in her, but the producers want to keep her around a while longer whatever entertainment value she brings the show.

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now that was a curveball last night

When they pull stunts like this it just makes me laugh. It was a complete setup where the producers knew in advance that what-her-name wasn't going to get a rose. They knew Ben wouldn't give her one simply because he wasn't really into her. Its likely he talked to several former Bachelor women as part of plan to possibility of bring one on the show, and of the women he did talk to on the phone, he told producers he found her nice, but not his type, thus they brought her on as a surprise to evoke drama, but to send her right home. And of course it makes Ben look good for not keeping her.

Part of what these stunts are about is to 1) provide drama among the women who are there to add drama, and 2) get a honest reaction from the 4 women who Ben is dating; do they handle it with maturity and honesty, or does 1-2 of them crack under the pressure. Basically the idea of these stunts is expose any personality flaws in the 4 woman so Ben can see their true colors, and not have to wait until after the show is done filming to find out the girl he selected is really a pychopath...lol

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so who are the 4 he is really into?

Kacie B is one of the 4.

What is easier to determine is who isn't one of the 4.

  • Any of the women who have in the past\future received the final rose during the rose cermony. The final rose is "The Rose of Death" any the woman who gets the final rose will be going home within the next two episodes.
  • Courney. She was included this season to be "The Bitch" that creates drama. IMHO, "The Bitch" is hired by the producers to cause drama. They likely give her specific things to do that will cause drama among the woman. Ben is aware who she is and what she is there to do.
  • Blakely. Already had one or more on prime time pyshco moments\breadowns. The final two women never is show poorly. She is going home before the final 4.
  • Cacey S. Not sure excactly what here role is, but she not there as serious love interest for Ben.
  • Alyse. She is the backup bitch. Here role is be there to create drama so that Courtney is not the sole hate woman in the house.
  • Emily. She got this evening Final rose, which as I have explained, it the Rose of Death. She will gone during the next 1-2 episodes.
  • Rachel Her date with Ben barely got her a rose, and which means she is likely to be around for a few more episodes, but nothing seriously remantic is going to heat up with here. They don't click.
  • Lindzi C. She seems decent and real, but sadly she got the "First Impression Rose" which really is a "Friendship Rose". She seem to be a nice emotionally stable woman, but not a woman Ben would date seriously.

So that leaves possible real woman of:

Jamie

Nicki

Jennifer

And in reality, Ben may decide very quickly which single woman he wants to continue dating after the show has concluded, but for the purposes of the show, he needs to continue to go on dates with other woman during filming simply so they have enough footage to create 16 episodes.

Another thing to speculate on is who is being setup to be the next Bachelorette. My current frontrunner to be either win Ben's heart or be the next Bachellorette is Kacie B.

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Good news for fans of Emily.

Source: http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2012/01/emily-maynard-is-the-bachelorette-its-official.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zap2it%2Ftelevision+%28Zap2It+-+Television%29

It's official, "Bachelorette" fans. Emily Maynard, the girl who won Brad's heart during the last season of "The Bachelor," is going to be looking for a new love this summer on "The Bachelorette."

ABC says in a press release:

Emily Maynard, the beautiful, sweet, young mom who captured America's and Brad Womack's heart on the 15th season of "The Bachelor," finally thought she had her happy ending. She accepted Brad's proposal and was looking forward to walking down the aisle. Unfortunately her relationship with Brad ended, along with her dream of moving to Austin with her daughter, Ricki, and starting a family. But Emily is ready for her luck to change and to bring her the love she so richly deserves. It's hard to meet men as a single mom, but Emily will have her pick of 25 bachelors when she gets a second opportunity to find love starring in the eighth edition of "The Bachelorette" when it premieres this spring on the ABC Television Network.

Emily, 25, led a tragic but fulfilling life before meeting Brad. In 2004 she became engaged to famed NASCAR driver and team owner Ricky Hendrick. Sadly Hendrick died in a plane crash in October, 2004, leaving his fianc

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^^ I was surprised the Brad picked Emily they seemed awkward together throughout the season, it was like he was dating his sister or something strange like that. It was my perception at the time she was on the show for the primary purpose to be the next Bachelorette.

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Been reading various rumors about this season, and one of them is stating that Ben's final decision is very controversal, something that many, if not most, viewers will not like ....Hmmm, we shall see. Rumors however are generally 98% BS, and 2% fact.

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I hope he picks Kacie B. She carries herself well and genuinely seems interested in him as he does in her.

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I had to pop into Morty's to comment on The Bachelor.

For the last several seasons I catch the show periodically...when I have time and the stomach to sit thru this hot mess of series.

When exactly did it jump the shark from being a Cinderella fantasy type show to becoming a reality based Fatal Attraction.

This is just sad. I can't say that I did not sleep with someone after a few dates (when I was dating).... But it certainly wasn't in an attempt to "win" him over a bunch of other girls. Would I do it for a million dollars, maybe? But that is not the premise of the show. This is just wrong and the squishy, gooey romance is so far gone that we are left with a prime time show that is just too cringeworthy for me to like.

To me this show should not be about how people get air time for playing others like fools or playing this like a game to win.

Or, maybe I should just give up that there can be feel good shows and start hoping for mass firings on Undercover Boss or giggling with glee as Ty Pennington pushes down on a TNT plunger just after saying "move that bus" in front of a destitute family.

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I had to pop into Morty's to comment on The Bachelor.

For the last several seasons I catch the show periodically...when I have time and the stomach to sit thru this hot mess of series.

When exactly did it jump the shark from being a Cinderella fantasy type show to becoming a reality based Fatal Attraction.

This is just sad. I can't say that I did not sleep with someone after a few dates (when I was dating).... But it certainly wasn't in an attempt to "win" him over a bunch of other girls. Would I do it for a million dollars, maybe? But that is not the premise of the show. This is just wrong and the squishy, gooey romance is so far gone that we are left with a prime time show that is just too cringeworthy for me to like.

To me this show should not be about how people get air time for playing others like fools or playing this like a game to win.

Or, maybe I should just give up that there can be feel good shows and start hoping for mass firings on Undercover Boss or giggling with glee as Ty Pennington pushes down on a TNT plunger just after saying "move that bus" in front of a destitute family.

Indeed the show is a bunch of smoke an mirrors, and no one should take it seriously. It has changed significantly since the first couple of seasons. If you want some insight to how the show now works, check out some my posts in this thread that goes into some of the details. Basically, only a handful of the women have have a chance, the rest are specifically cast because they have personality flaws that will 1) create drama\ratings, and 2) Give the bachelor reason to send them home. From the very start there are maybe 4-6 women who the Bachelor is considering, and the rest are there simply for the drama they will bring to the show. Overall, realistically it is completely absurd for one guy to have to sort through 25 woman to hoping to find the love of his life. There's a lot stuff we never see, and we don't see it because if we knew how the show really worked, it be obvious that very little of what we see is "Reality".

As for Courtney, (the Bitch), without a doubt in my mind, she hired by the producers to stir things up, and have fake scenes with the Bachelor, all of which are created by the producers. She a lot of secret moments with the Bachelor, which are filmed later to give the false impression she does a bunch of crap behind the back of the other women.

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Episode Jan, 30th 2012 (Poerto Rico)

Skinny Dipping BS: Here is a basic secret rule about how The Bachelor reality game is played: "No unauthorized contact may occur with the Bachelor (Ben), all contact must be coordinated with producers in advance. Failure to coordinate with producers will result in elimination from the production and is considered a breach of contract"..... So when we see a skinny dippy scene, its either authorized by the producers, or a scene created by the producers. IMHO, the scene was created by the producers to be inserted into show for dramatic effect. No doubt in my mind Courtney has been hired to do BS like Skinny dipping, and its a good chance the scene was shot out of sequence (before\after the main filming) and never happened on the beach there Puerto Rico. If it had actually happened as we are lead to believe, and other women found out, 1) some women would request to be allowed to do similar extreme acts (ie dance topless, give him a BJ, etc), 2) other women would say "If that is the type of guy Ben is, and I need to strip naked for cameras too, then send me home ASAP, I'm not here to get a spread in Playboy". Too much of a risk to do any of this kind of crap during the main filming, so it was created before or after.

Emily: OK, she gets her second consecutive final rose; the rose of death. My general thinking is she may also be hired by the producers to be part of a tag team with Courtney, that way they can play off each other, create a lot of drama between themselves that is approved by the producers. Her role is mostly to play the good girl opposite Courtney bad girl. Anyway, right\wrong, she's only there to help create drama, not really as a love interest.

Who goes home, and when: I've stated it before, and I stating it again: The producers decide the order of who goes home, and under what circumstances. This week Elyse gets a one-on-one date, and doesn't get a rose, so she sent home immediately. The producers made this decision, not Ben. Some days\weeks prior to their one-on-one date, Ben made it clear to the producers that he wasn't interested in her, so the producers then planned her exit, and this case they decided she was to be sent home during a date. Why did they choose her? I have no idea. She was a bit unlikeable, so maybe she just seemed like the best person to get rejected that way; a woman that audience could care less about.

Kacie B: The clear front runner. As far a I see it, she guaranteed a home town date. So far out in front its hard to see how Ben might be seriously interested in any of the other women. Could Ben have made his final choice very early (week 1-2) and the remaining time was simply a process to send the other women home and film their drama? I guess we shall see. At the moment, I'm not seeing any of the other women getting the same level of positive spot light as Kacie B. There are a few that remain that are clearly likable women (Linzi, Nicki, Jamie), but they remain in the background too much. If Ben was undecided and liked 2-3 more-or-less equally, then they would get more air time, and their good qualities highlighted.

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Imo...

1) Ben isn't/wasn't ready to find love or knew that with the group of girls provided he didn't see a potential wife.

2) Producers knew about Ben and the Bachelorette from the other season before the season started. I'm sure they knew all about the conversations they've been having and the time or two that they met up. Producers thought it would be a great twist if he wasn't really feeling it for anyone else, to bring her into the mix. The plan was for her to stay and that Ben WANTED her to stay.

3) Unfortunately, big backfire with the other girls still there and so, Ben's chance at finding love had to be thwarted for the sake of the show.

4) Ben picks Courtney at the end. Where he will once again have his heart broken (not really) when he asks her to marry him and she says no. I just wanted to win the competition... I just wanted to become a reality star... I just wanted to get an offer from Playboy... I just wanted to be the 1st Bachelorette to turn down the final rose.

5) This franchise has jumped the shark and it started last season and continues this season by having the "star" humiliated week after a week.

6) Kacie B will be a future Bachelorette.

Btw... I'm embarrassed that I actually watch this ridiculous show.

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Imo...

4) Ben picks Courtney at the end. Where he will once again have his heart broken (not really) when he asks her to marry him and she says no. I just wanted to win the competition... I just wanted to become a reality star... I just wanted to get an offer from Playboy... I just wanted to be the 1st Bachelorette to turn down the final rose.

Btw... I'm embarrassed that I actually watch this ridiculous show.

Wouldn't that be a total hoot if he did picked her and she did turn him down. :)

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Imo...

1) Ben isn't/wasn't ready to find love or knew that with the group of girls provided he didn't see a potential wife.

This actually brings up a important point in how the show works (behind the scenes). The bachelor is only considering about 4-6 women from the moment the women arrive, rest are there to provide a bunch of drama and then be sent home. However, there is always the risk that the Bachelor will discover that none of the REAL woman interest him enough to want to date after the show ends. I specifically use the word "date" rather than "marry". This show is not about finding a person to marry, its finding someone who the bachelor likes enough to date in real life, and if things works out, then marriage would logically follow. So anyway.... how do they handle it if the Bachelor decides he does not want to date any of the real women by the time they reach the end? There are a couple of options, he could choose not to propose to any of women in the final show and they all get sent home (really bad option), or he could propose to one of the women hired by the producers to be on the show (ie Courtney). The idea being, he knows, and she knows, there is no true romance between them and they are there simply to get a huge paycheck + the fame that comes along with being on the show. AND....I highly suspect there is a huge six figure bonus for the bachelor if he actually proposes to one of the women, and she likely gets a similar bonus if she accepts, and of course they agree not to date anyone else before the final show airs. Kind of hard to walk away from a large sum of money when the producers provide him the option of proposing to a woman hired by them to be safety measure; in other words, Ben has known from the very beginning what all his options were, including picking someone hired by the producers to be one of the women.

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Can someone explain why the baseball scoreboard last week showed the Blue team won 7-6 after 3 innings?

The way the episode was laid out for us, they were supposed to play 2 innings, and the winning team gets to spend the evening with Ben. After one inning, the Red team was up 5-1, and the Blue team comes back to tie it 6-6 after 2 innings. So the game goes to extra innings, and Ben is interviewed to say they kept tieing it up, until it was the bottom of the 5th and the Red team was ahead 10-9. Blue team is shown to strike out, and the Red team wins 10-9.

The only problem is the scoreboard is shown going into the bottom of the 5th, with the following:

Red: 5 1 0 2 2

Blue:3 3 1 2

So according to the scoreboard, after the 3rd inning, the Blue team was ahead 7-6.. game over! lol

I'm curious what happened?

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Can someone explain why the baseball scoreboard last week showed the Blue team won 7-6 after 3 innings?

The way the episode was laid out for us, they were supposed to play 2 innings, and the winning team gets to spend the evening with Ben. After one inning, the Red team was up 5-1, and the Blue team comes back to tie it 6-6 after 2 innings. So the game goes to extra innings, and Ben is interviewed to say they kept tieing it up, until it was the bottom of the 5th and the Red team was ahead 10-9. Blue team is shown to strike out, and the Red team wins 10-9.

The only problem is the scoreboard is shown going into the bottom of the 5th, with the following:

Red: 5 1 0 2 2

Blue:3 3 1 2

So according to the scoreboard, after the 3rd inning, the Blue team was ahead 7-6.. game over! lol

I'm curious what happened?

LOL.... Good eye, but do not try and figure out the sequence of events in this show, or at least try to not assume events are in chronological order. The producers have no problem switching around the order of things said or done if it makes for a better episode. They have even filmed comments weeks later and created fake scenes. Very very little about this show has any basis in reality. If you want, you can think of the show like a weird dream where things happen that don't always make any logical sense or have much connection with real life. Its practically a romantic fantasy with drama thrown in to keep the audience guessing. Basically, its 90% BS, but that why its so fun. You can't take it seriously. smile.gif

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Episode Feb 6th, 2012

  • Cacey S. She was completely setup by producers. She comes on the show while still seriously in love some guy she been dating for at least a couple of years. Come'on now, who's fooling who. Does anyone truly believe the producers didn't know about her past before coming on the show. Hell, they probably tracked down every boyfriend she ever had since the 6th grade. So when they drop the bomb, is because they planned from the very start to confront her about it, and forcer her to leave. Likely they were hoping she might confess on camera to one of the girls or otherwise make it very dramatic, but if she didn't, well they just confront her and have Ben ask her to leave. A few weeks ago, I couldn't figure out her role, but its now clear.

  • Courtney. Nobody gets more air time that this nasty witch. Not even the hands down favorite Kacie B. Courtney has nothing good to say and is always scheming to win, and I highly suspect a lot of her dialog is written by the producers. She is such a caricature of "The Bitch" when she is doing her side comments directly into the camera, and its not the best acting job either; its good enough, but it lacks the realism and complexity that defines a true bitch. If she were "for real" she would more two-faced with the girls, winning them over to her side by BS'ing them, then making off hand comments to Ben about them, but in causal manner. As an professional model\actress Country is smart enough to know that making "bitchy" comments into the camera is unprofessional and makes her look bad, thus she knows exactly what she is doing, because she is doing exactly what the producers have hired her to do.

  • Kacie B. Ben either proposes to her or she is be offered a future Bachelorette. Hate to say it, but at the moment I am not seeing a lot of romantic chemistry between the Ben and Kacie. Clearly coming into the show she was cast as the "sweat girl" who would make it to the final 4. The very big question will be if she accepts The Over Night Date offer. If she makes some excuse and turns the offer down, then it very unlikely that Ben will propose to her. Yeah, I know Emily Manard turned down the over night date and still got a proposal, but IMHO, there never really was any romance between them, she was the his exit clause; both get a big pay check, but after the show ended, they never seriously dated, and likely never had sex. With Kacie, if there is romance and a sexual attraction, then Kacie will accept the over night date, if there isn't 1) there may not be an overnight date this season, or 2) she has some (fake) reasonable justification for not accepting. Like, got 24 hour flu, and the show's doctors won't let her have sex; you get the idea.

  • Blakely: No surprise she got sent home on the two-on-one date. Several times during past episodes she was shown as flaky and emotionally unstable. Her date with Ben just seem weird. And nearly always when she was the focal point in a scene (not standing in the back ground), they inserted clunky music to enhance the feeling that something was not quite right with her, someone that was slightly off or just weird. You know, the type that might do something totally unpredictable like talk to herself in the mirror and think its perfectly normal to have conversations as if her mirror image was a twin... WACKO!

  • Emily. Yep, she is the other hired person this this season. I think she nows has holds the Bachelor all time reacord for getting the Rose of Death three straight times. As I stated previously, her role is play off Country, the producers instruct them get into cat verbal fights while around the other girls to create drama for the camera. The reason they have at least two hired girls is because it would be unfair for the producer to have Country verbally attack\insult the other girls who don't know she hired by the producers, thus Courtney and Emily get into verbal cat fights that are arranged by the producers. If these two are at the center, then the other girls are focused on them rather than any REAL conflicts that exist.

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