BB 13 - Questions, Theories, Suggestions

[CasperSabe]

I have no problems with the original floaters, who played a very strong social game, and it was clear that was their goal. They did try in compeitions, they just sucked at them.

Somewhere along the way, and I don't know where, it became this thing to start a) playing for jury and to not even ATTEMPT to win an HOH or POV because you didn't want a target on you .. going so far as to say you are "throwing" the compeition. It's stupid. I don't want people who are going to throw every compeition, barely do ANYTHING and just sit there like a lump all summer running their mouth, and freaking out whenever anyone mentions their name.

It's originally why I grew to like Janelle, even if I disliked some of her attitude towards things in life personally. I grew to respect her for working her ass off in the games to win POV or HOH to stay alive. In the end, I felt crushed for her, when she still didn't win. But she worked her ass off and tried, and both times her down fall was her short-sightedness in her social game, of trusting people who told her to trust them (Ivette, Dr.Will).

It's one of the original reasons I came to like Rachel and Brenden. They were willing to work hard to win, and didn't want to win against a bunch of floaters in the end, they wanted to play against other people, like themselves who would "bring it" as it were and let the best man or woman at the end come out on top.

Their thinking is flawed, because this will never happen, and isn't even the best move for them stragetically but at least I respect the intention.

It does seem like certain people in the house have got to coast all summer, and not do a darn thing. If Lawon wins Big Brother 13 I will LOL because the way these vets and drama-full houseguests keep going at each other, they will be so busy trying to get each other out he will be the last one holding the bag at the end.

Good for him, but terrible for the rest of them. And most fans will think "he didn't deserve it", and they would be right.

I do however NOT think that America should be allowed to pick a winner, because if they were allowed to pick, Jeff would win just for being good looking, not for actually doing anything in the game.

[GingerSnaps]

Now now you know darn well she would never come home with the food!!!

Didn't you ever see the movie Fatso?

that movie is so funny and you're right what was I thinking. lol

[claz1285]

I think people need to define floating. People are still calling Hayden a floater when he won the first HOH, made an alliance with three men that got very far in the game, won comps, and won the game. He picked a side. He wasn't obvious about it and that is one way to win.

Exactly. I was going to mention Hayden. But I know the disdain for BB12. But people call Hayden a floater... he laid low in the beginning, won comps. when he needed to. Played a perfect social game, and kept his alliance in tact and under the radar.

Rachel may think Jordan, or Hayden, floated to victory. And even if they did, they won. So it is what it is.

[uvp]

I've never understood why people think they have to vote for who the HOH wants gone, HOH means nothing after noms & pov

i notice that trend started in bb10 and has continued ever since

it could have been in an earlier season but bb10 was when i really noticed it

keesha hoh really got the ball rolling on it , could have been earlier but i remember she really wanted angie out

[CasperSabe]

If their credentials for the job they were applying were legitimate and relative to the field I was in, sure. I think big brother fans get a tad crazy sometimes, assuming that a) how a person in the house is how they are on the outside and b ) that if they do something "bad" in the BB house, that must mean they're a terrible person beyond all reproach.

It use to floor me when in Season 6 because people didn't like eric or maggie they said stuff to the effect they wanted to call their employer and say what a bad person that person was, and they thought they must be terrible at their jobs, etc.

I was like really? Maybe watch a little less reality television and go get some more fresh air. From all accounts both Eric and Maggie were very good at their job, and that's honestly all their employers needed to know.

I think they're all people, and so long as they're qualified for the job, I see no reason not to hire them. And despite how emotional they act on the BB show, at least I know that they have all passed criminal, psychological and to a lesser degree credit checks in order to be on the show. The real problem for some of these people who are models, or wanna be actresses is that notoriaty actually acts against the principals of acting and modeling. Unless you are so amazing that it's an assest to the company that you're wearing their clothes, and this fact alone is likely to generate sales, they would much prefer to have a pretty, but non-famous face modeling their stuff so that they can be nothing more glorified hangers, for the clothes to drape upon. If you become a reality television star and you become a famous reality television star personality people will project that personality onto whatever you are trying to sell, severely limiting your ability to make money as a model. In acting, it can be even worse, as far as the legitimate acting world seems to be concerned being on a relaity television show is akin to doing porn. As an actor you want to be remembered FOR your charchters you protray, not be Rachel Riley -- playing -- x y or z charchter. It's the reason why there is "type-casting" in hollywood so much, once people pigeon hole you into one genre, or type of movie it becomes difficult to successfully do other types of movies or film unless you do something and get amazing reviews for in a different area.

These houseguests best bet is to ignore Hollywood completely, and simply go back to their traditional lives when the show raps, and for those who have had their legitimate career paths put on hold, they should prehaps consider going back to school for training in a different area, and pursue a different career, one which is out of the public spotlight.

They can live off the psuedo reality tv recognition of some people, with a smile and nod and move on.

[Nikki2005]

I've never understood why people think they have to vote for who the HOH wants gone, HOH means nothing after noms & pov

Yes, I never understood that either.

My definition of a floater is someone who throws comps and just runs from one side of the house to the other following the power of HOH. Someone who can't think for themselves and votes out who the HOH wants out NOT even giving a thought as to who to vote out based on what's best for them in the long run.

[Nikki2005]

I think people need to define floating. People are still calling Hayden a floater when he won the first HOH, made an alliance with three men that got very far in the game, won comps, and won the game. He picked a side. He wasn't obvious about it and that is one way to win.

I'm not a fan of Hayden at all BUT he won comps and made a great alliance, so he was in no way shape or form a floater in my eyes.

[CasperSabe]

The idea of voting with the house, or voting what the HOH wants out, really stems from the "I want to be a floater and play beneath the radar" menality. The newbies were all crazy trying to figure out who those 2 votes were, when the votes weren't what was expected. By voting your own way, and not with the house, you create disention amongst everybody, and by voting against the interest of a particular alliance you are in essence picking sides. (I'm not saying this is right or wrong, I'm just saying why this is done.)

Dr. Will and to a lesser extent America's player in season 8 were the only people that I remember in history ever purposefully voting for the wrong side, to cause chaos.

Sadly, this if used and done correctly can also be a good lithmus test for where people's real loyalties and suspicions lie. The people, people trusted least were the names that they threw out there as having been the other votes. This can be used to make a target on a person, where no target previously exhisted. Unfortunately for the people who get targeted unfairly when they did nothing wrong, it really sucks for them.

[Slimcruz]

Sheldon could be my bodyguard but she couldn't speak unless spoken to. Jordan could do my hair and be my pal and shop with me. Porches could run errands. Daniele-no. Cowpie-no. Lawon-no . Adam-no. Dominic-pool guy. Cassie-no. Brenchel-you must be crazy. Jeff-could dress and train me (heh). If I forgot anyone, it wasn't intentional but doesn't matter.

Just kidding, Jordan.

[Marty]

Jeff could be my naked Chef.

[SugarB]

Depends on the contestant and what job they wanted to be hired for. I'll be honest, there are a few that have been on BB that I wouldn't hire to dig a ditch or clean a toilet or anything else.

[onlinev4]

I'm just going to run how I would play the game if I were in the house.

First day, probably make it about 5-6th place in the HoH competition but no higher than 3rd. I would then proceed to try and make a final 4 deal with the HoH and two other people. Take a person that's not the HoH and make a final two deal with them. Then, you need to gather in about 4 other expendable people in your group to guarantee safety until about the final 9. If something terrible happened, you throw one of your original 4 out that you didn't make the deal with.

As soon as the group is down to 4 people left, the house will be sided. This is the opportunity where you take your final two partner and attempt to pair up with the strongest two competitors on the other side of the house and pick everyone else off. Then it's competitions down to victory.

I don't think floating is a bad strategy. Floating is playing the game without aligning yourself to anyone. For instance, if a competitor was capable of winning every single PoV and never aligned themselves with anyone, are they a floater? Or are they just able to sustain themselves in the game. If I was capable of winning every single PoV and HoH when I had the chance, I would NEVER align myself with anyone and my nominations would never make any sense, just to screw with everyone.

[lvgal]

Ahhhhhhhh, yes, the "perfect plan"

[kywildcat]

I think people need to define floating. People are still calling Hayden a floater when he won the first HOH, made an alliance with three men that got very far in the game, won comps, and won the game. He picked a side. He wasn't obvious about it and that is one way to win.

You're absolutely right and I would never classify Hayden as a floater. Under the radar, yes, and kudos to him for it. He totally deserved that win. It irritated me everytime I heard B/R call him a floater.

[Guest Corky812]

Well, I guess if you had a swimming pool business you could hire the floaters, lol!

I would hope the HG's are different outside of the game. I think some are and some probably are pretty much the same. Personally I took a lot of flack for liking Maggie and Cappy on their season (well, mostly Maggie).

We met Evel Dick just by chance. He was very outgoing and nice, but you could see a lot of "Dick at Night" in him. I didn't like him any better or worse than on the show really. We also met Mike Boogie playing tennis a while back. He was pretty much (just to us) the same arrogant jerk he was on the All Star show.

I'm not sure I would risk my buffet to invite Kalia to a party, but I guess I could in the interest of Big Brother Science, and I usually do make enough food for an extra 25-30 people. (Wouldn't it be a pip if she turned out to have perfect table manners in the real world?

[GreatSaltLuke]

Could someone explain to me why everyone is acting like they have already made jury when there are still 9 people left? Aren't there only 7 jury members?

[TbigbrotherfanW]

Could someone explain to me why everyone is acting like they have already made jury when there are still 9 people left? Aren't there only 7 jury members?

And 2 finalists so they would be in jury if someone wasn't coming back this week

[Calicuddle]

I am surprised AG didn't use this opportunity to return ED to the game since he is so "beloved" (but not by me).

[GreatSaltLuke]

And 2 finalists so they would be in jury if someone wasn't coming back this week

Thank you, I was completely overlooking the fact that it didn't include the F2.

[CasperSabe]

I am surprised AG didn't use this opportunity to return ED to the game since he is so "beloved" (but not by me).

Whatever personal reasons Dick left the game still exist. He can't and wont be returning this season as a player. It doesn't stop them from trying to milk him for his opinion on dani's game though..

[CasperSabe]

What do you think the returning house guest competition will be? In order to ensure the player the best chance of remaining in the house for at least one week, I see the winner of the competition being HOH for the week. If this was the case, I see the competition being endurance. If this isn't the case, than I see the competition to be a quick Q&A and then the HG enters the house to compete for an endurance HOH with the other HG's.

[Sara5229]

I was just thinking about that too. It would be great if they both got to play in HOH endurance and the one who lasted longest would get to stay.. would make for a good long endurance

[BigBroFanTX]

I cannot wait to see Lawon's face when he gets booted and walks right in to a competition. He will panic, while the returning person ( Cassi )will have had time to take it all in. I hope he walks out and right up to a podium and have a little True/False and then the winner rings the bell to get back in. Then all compete for HOH. I hope the returning person does not get a free pass for the week. We will see. I know a lot of people do not like the twists, but I love 'em.

[PlainJane]

I totally agree with you BigBroFan!!! Love the twists & cannot wait to see it play out. Looks like it will be Cassie & now, very possibly Lawon...who would have thought that??....LOL!!!!! LOVE IT!!!!

[Jungle]

some of the people in this season (Porch, Lawon, Adam) are not floaters, they are just useless

I was just thinking about that too. It would be great if they both got to play in HOH endurance and the one who lasted longest would get to stay.. would make for a good long endurance

For some reason I don't see a 'long endurance