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Just finished the Killing Club novel. Eh -- fare summertime reading. Doesnt really give you an clue who did it, but I cant see it being anyone other than marcies agent. YAWN.

The outing of daniel at his swearing in though was awesome. Lindsey and Rex were great as usual. My heart broke for poor Riley and I even felt bad for Mark, so naive but so sweet in his childlike love for Daniel. But the best part was seeing Nora fall off that high horse she is always riding around on. Even Lindsey saw through Daniel. HA!! And now of course she will try to blame her humiliation all on Bo. Heaven forbid she should look in the mirror. Bo warned her, Lindsey warned her, hell even her little kid warned her. There was practically a neon sign flashing over Daniel's head reading NO GOOD LOSER BEWARE but Ms. I Always Know Better Hannon Gannon Buchannan Colson was so sure that she was right and everyone else was an idiot. (Can you tell I am sooooo tired of this character :wink: ) And then Bo tried to reveal all behind the scenes to spare her, but NO she couldnt trust him to look out for her and insisted that everything be told then and there BECAUSE SHE SAYS SO.

She is always so holier than thou, especially with Lindsey that she forgets that she was the one who killed Bo's first wife Sara because she refused to stop driving after she started having medical problems, she was the one who had the affair with Sam even though HE was married to Lindsey, she was the one who had an affair with Sam even though SHE was still married to Bo, she was the one who had an affair with RJ when she was married to Hank, she was the one that was vicious towards Marty back when Todd raped her and then once she realized she was wrong committed malpractice by throwing Todd's defense (legal code of ethics be damned), and now she is the one who married Daniel in spite of everyones admonitions.

With so many interesting characters lacking airtime, I dont understand how Nora always remains front and center. BORING!!

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Lauren, your post left me speechless, thanks!

Any idea how many more murders we have to go as per the Killing Club? ... and does the book name a murderer in the end, or leave it open?

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Not sure what speechless means LOL

I will pm you with the book scoop so others dont learn what they dont want to know.

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speechless meant impressed to see someone discussing this show!

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I dont know why I bother with it though anymore. I have been watching the abc shows for longer than I care to admit, but all three, but esp. OLTL has really gone down hill. Dont know if its budget cuts/smaller audiences or just crappy writing but ...

Just take the Jess/Tess DID story and compare it to the Vicki DID story and you have the problem in a nutshell. Comparing the two is like comparing a good bottle of Cabernet with a wine cooler.

There are no good complex villians (unless I guess you count Todd who really isnt a villian anymore and Asa who gets almost no air time) Margret is a sad version of Ursala. And yes they are finally bringing back Carlo, but they brought back Mitch and then wrote him so one-dimensional that they couldnt keep him on, so I am not optimistic that they will do better with Carlo, esp without Alex.

And where are the great love stories? I still remember Tina going over the falls and the awesome love triangle (with more than 3 sides :wink: ) of Tina/Max/Cord/Kate/Gabrielle all searching for the baby Milagro. And the Max/Megan/Jake triangle with Megan dying in Jake's arms looking at their tree. And Sarah's and Bo's lavish wedding.

Which leaves the Killing Club. If you were watching years back then you may remember when Todd's quiet cousin who got all squirrelly after being dragged into marty's rape turned out to be a serial killer. NOW THAT WAS SURPRISING!! If the KC killer ends up being some lame ass character that we've seen next to never where is the fun in that? Look at the best shows on tv now -- shows like Desperate housewives, Lost, 24, Alias -- they actually kill off major characters to move plot. They dont create huge story lines, promise big payoffs and then trot out a character nobody even knew existed as the sacrificial lamb.

<<Insert long sigh here>>> Nowadays I watch all 3 abc soaps in about one hour when i watch, fast forwarding through all the boring stuff.

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I too remember the heydays of OLTL ... way back when Jenny and Karen were on and Marco! And you are so right about Vicki's DID ... I am so disappointed in the whole Jess/Tess thing ... not well acted, and I fast forward through it too!

Any word on whether Alex might come back? Alex, Carlos, Asa ... now those were great days.

I have never really gotten this new Todd ... yes, I know we are supposed to move on, but I just really appreciated Roger Howarth's portrayal ... and what about the never well used Joey? Wasted character IMHO ...

I just can't figure out where OLTL is headed ... I think they have lost their focus ... seems like a jigsaw puzzle strewn all over the floor ... I want someone to pick up the pieces and put it back together again!

As for Asa, now that the actor's contract has been negotiated, I hope he is featured more.

Even Vikki is weird to me these days, a cardboard cut-out of a character I have followed for so many years!

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Word is that they arent bringing back Alex but who knows.

I agree that everything is a mish mash. Jess/Tess is just the beginning. What was the deal with Dorian the last two months? First they make her a half-crazed, abrasive as hell, busy body. Then David breaks up with her over it. Then she is a little less crazed but not really and with no conversation at all between D&D poof they are back together. Thats not a plot line -- thats oh shit we dont have anything in mind so lets just play musical chairs to fill up time til we come up with something. And what happened to Dorian's crusade to bring down Vicki that popped up again over really nothing and then faded away again just as easily.

Then theres the Kevin is Lt. Gov, oops no hes not, hey he is again, um no that was last week. What a joke. In what state have you ever seen someone hold office like they are there on a whim?

See you got me started and now the list goes on and on ..... LOL

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One Life To Live

Spoilers Highlight to Read

Week of May 30 - Natalie decides to put herself in the line of fire to help John nail the Killing Club Killer.

John confronts Hayes after his suspicions are aroused.

Evangeline is disturbed when witnessing John's reaction after he thought Natalie might have been hurt.

The Killing Club killer sets his sights on Natalie.

Rachel returns to town to help her devastated Mother.

Nora has an emotional breakdown after sending Rachel away.

Bo faces off with Daniel who still maintains his innocence.

Lindsay, Mark and Nora visit Daniel in jail to separately confront him.

Blaming Mark for everything, Riley attacks Mark physically.

David and Dorian celebrate their reunion vowing to never be apart from one another again.

Todd makes it his mission to find out all he can about Spencer.

Asa tries convincing Renee to stay with him in South America.

Todd gets some shocking news regarding Asa

Tess emerges and tries masquerading as Jessica in front of a highly suspicious Uncle Todd.

Antonio catches Todd snooping to get answers about

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FROM TV GUIDE: Soap Scoop

Friday, May 27, 2005

Relieved to see Jack on the mend, Blair takes Todd to task for questioning Spencer's motives. Evangeline is astonished to learn that the district attorney has been arrested on a double murder charge. At the precinct house, Natalie helps a grateful John keep the press at bay. Meanwhile, Nora asks Bo to leave her alone with her husband. Riley lashes out at Rex, then collapses in sobs as Marcie tries to console her devastated friend. Vowing to fight the charges, Daniel begs Nora to believe that he is the innocent victim of Bo's efforts to railroad him. Paige is rattled to encounter Spencer in the halls of Llanview Hospital. Riley sadly confides to Marcie how he's been forced to question his own identity now that he knows his father has been lying to him his whole life. Though Daniel fervently declares his love, an enraged Nora rails at him for deceiving her so cruelly. John bristles when Evangeline criticizes the way he handled Daniel's arrest. Natalie encourages a broken Nora to lean on her family and friends during her terrible ordeal. Later, Natalie's supportive words to John lift the detective's flagging spirits. Todd takes note of some simmering tension between Spencer and Paige. Riley falls off the wagon once again.

Monday, May 30, 2005

When Tess runs in into Todd, she has no choice but to pretend to be Jessica for him. Todd suspects something's wrong with her and she goes along with his idea that Dr. Jamison has her on some medication. When he starts to badmouth Antonio, Jessica's voice inside Tess starts to make noise. Taking a break in the ladies room, Jessica and Tess struggle for control of Jessica's body. Bo plays the hero when he chases a reporter away from Nora's door. However, Rachel refuses to allow Bo to come in for a visit with Nora and accuses him of deliberately embarrassing her in public when he arrested Daniel. Bo defends the way he arrested Daniel.

Finding him hitting the bag hard and often, Evangeline argues with Antonio first when he claims he lost custody of Jamie and then when he boasts that he'll do anything to reclaim his little girl from RJ. John won't hear it when Natalie offers to act as a decoy in order to bring the "Killing Club" murderer out into the public. Though he tries to talk her out of it, she's not completely convinced and decides that she might act anyway.

Blasting the hired thug for kidnaping her, Renee is not pleased when Asa suddenly appears, all smiling about her arrival. She's quick to start calling him names until she finds Duke is there too. He admits that he followed the kidnapper and stowed away on the plane to South America. Alone with Duke, Asa suggests that he and Renee live in South America with him. Later, Renee starts to soften towards Asa.

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YEAH!!

YEAH #1

ASA is back

YEAH #2

CARLO is coming

YEAH #3

RJ + LINDSEY = HOT and baby makes 3!!

YEAH #4

Dorian and David finally back together. Now if only the writers will let Dorian go back to being that glorious force of nature that only she is!!

YEAH #5

It must be strong woman week on OLTL (and none too soon) Jolie (John+Natalie) is just around the bend and Evangeline is finally realizing that it is possible to really know someone just not for her to know John! Natalie -- YOU GO GIRL!!

YEAH #6

Evangeline was the one in a million who finally stood up and told Antonio what everyone else was afraid to -- the custody case isn't about RJ, the Santis, Jessica, a bad attorney or any of his one million and one excuses -- ITS ALL ABOUT HIM AND HIS TEMPER!! Evangeline -- YOU GO GIRL!!

YEAH #7

Rachel dressed down Bo "I'm to big for his Britches" Buchannan. Or as Bo would sing on American Idol -- she tied him down to the WHIPPING POST!! Rachel -- YOU GO GIRL!!

YEAH #8

(I havent seen today's ep) but LOVING the clip with Linsey choking Daniel by his tie through the prison bars!! Lindsey -- YOU GO GIRL!!

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST

YEAH #9

Renee sucker punched Asa so hard for his shenanigans that he actually lost his breath. Renee really loves the oh so loveable old coot but she doesnt take any of his BS. Renee, YOU GO GIRL.

ITS ALL GOOD!!

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Watched the tape of todays epi. If you watch tomorrow you will see the gallery of pictures for the Killing Club Victims targets. I would have to assume that anyone on the wall is not the Killer. Today's pan was the clearest so far. I could make out Nat, Jess, Nora, Riley, Marci, Marci's brother Ron, and Michael. Anybody else catch any of the photos?

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FROM TV GUIDE: Soap Scoop

Tuesday, May 31, 2005

Natalie confides to Rex her risky plan to trap the Killing Club serial murderer. Though R.J. tries to dissuade her, Lindsay storms into the police station and demands that John allow her access to her daughter's killer. Concerned about his niece, Todd argues with Antonio about the best way to help Jessica. Meanwhile, "Tess" again attempts to retake control of the body as Jessica fights off her alter ego. Bo pays a visit to Daniel's jail cell and pressures his prisoner to explain why he felt he had to snuff out the existence of two young people just to cover up the truth about his own double life. Rex urges Natalie not to endanger her safety by acting as bait for the psycho who's been knocking off members of the Love Crew. Antonio finds Todd searching Dr. Jamison's office for answers about Jessica. Bo locks himself in with a nervous Daniel. Jessica goes to Xanadu and is rattled to realize that the bartender recognizes "Tess" as one of his regular customers--and a wild one at that. John takes Hayes to task for using the notorious killings to boost sales of Marcie's book. Bo forces Daniel to look at photos of Jen in the morgue, then icily reminds the D.A. what he has to look forward to once he's sent up the river. Antonio warns Todd to back off.

Wednesday, June 1, 2005

Nora assures Rachel she can go home now that things are calming down. Meanwhile, Bo wonders how to explain the latest turn of events to his son. Rex again urges Natalie not to risk going after the Killing Club murderer by herself. At Xanadu, Jessica is shaken to encounter one of "Tess'" many lovers. Michael fears that Riley is using again after spotting him withdrawing a wad of cash from an ATM. Face to face with her daughter's killer, a seething Lindsay vows to see Daniel burn for his crimes. Intrigued to learn that R.J. is facing financial ruin, Antonio realizes that his nemesis' problems could mean a break in the custody case. Insisting that he's not guilty of any of the charges, Daniel is relieved when Mark apologizes for ever doubting him. Bo hesitantly fills Matthew in on the truth about his stepfather. Antonio enlists Rex to spy on R.J. Thinking back on her short and unhappy marriage, Nora kicks herself for buying Daniel's lies. Ginger hints to a fretful Adriana that she and Duke seem to be growing apart. Rattled by a flash of memory, Mark shudders to realize that the man he loves is indeed a murderer. Riley gets busted while buying drugs. Rex reluctantly agrees to help Natalie catch a killer.

Thursday, June 2, 2005

Evangeline suffers renewed pangs of jealousy after hearing John fretting about Natalie. Meanwhile, Natalie drags a grousing Rex to a nature preserve in hopes of luring the serial killer out into the open. A desperate Daniel declares his love to Mark and begs the young man to believe in him. Nora snarls at her ex when she finds Bo on her doorstep. Concerned about Matthew, Starr scolds her father for printing gloating headlines about Nora's scandalous marriage. Jessica gathers stunning new information about "Tess" during a confusing conversation with Ginger. An enraged Nora accuses Bo of paying her back for her long-ago indiscretion with Sam by publicly humiliating her now. Certain Daniel's blind ambition led him to commit murder, Mark bitterly informs his lover that they are through. Later, Daniel is shocked to see his son being led into an adjoining cell. Starr lends a sympathetic shoulder to an unhappy Matthew. A by-the-book murderer takes aim at his next target. Ginger begins to sense something different about "Tess." Warning Bo she'll never forgive him, Nora orders her ex out of her life. Todd has an eye-opening chat with his children's new sitter. After Rex is knocked cold by an unseen hand, Natalie gets caught in the serial killer's crosshairs.

Previews for next week:

Evangeline or no Evangeline, Natalie feels sure that John really loves her. John thinks he has caught the Killing Club killer. Evangeline and John end up in Splitsville! David Vickers is not happy to see Dr. Spencer Truman in Llanview. There's more split-personality drama when "Tess" is revealed to be keeping a dark secret from Jessica. (Didn't Jessie's multiple mama Viki also used to keep secrets from herself?)

Friday, June 3, 2005

Nora comes to her husband's jail cell and demands that he affix his signature to their annulment papers. Spencer overhears Todd telling Blair he doesn't trust the new doctor in town. In the nature preserve, John shoves Natalie to the ground just in time to save her from being shot by a crossbow. Dorian and David happily celebrate their reconciliation by making love. Ignoring Todd's grousing, Blair presents Spencer with a pair of cufflinks to thank him for saving Jack's life. Daniel urges Nora to believe that he loves her but she icily insists she never took a vow to remain faithful to a murderer. Michael urges Marcie to stop blaming herself for setting off a serial killer. Natalie shakily explains to Rex how close she came to taking an arrow in the neck. Later, John scolds Natalie for pulling such a dangerous stunt in the first place. Blair accuses Todd of being jealous of the handsome Dr. Truman. Kevin invites Kelly out for dinner. Riley seconds the emotion when Nora pledges to erase Daniel from her memory. Natalie is secretly thrilled by John's slip of the lip. David suggests to a delighted Dorian that they jet over to Paris for a special evening. Alarmed to learn of Riley's arrest, Nora decides to post the young man's bail herself. Todd's romantic gesture pleases Blair and they finally make love for the first time in months. John gets a possible lead on the serial killer.

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Thanks Springtime ... and all I can say is wow!!!!!!! :wink:

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if the KCK is in fact Ron, as we have been speculating about for the last few weeks, all I can say is what a waste. Why does One Life always do these "who done it" story lines where the "done it" person is someone who is hardly ever one the canvas and we could care less about and the people "done in" are also bit players. Better had it the KCK been Michael or Tess or even Marcie. If they were hell bent on making it Ron, we should have seen more dates between him and Nat, maybe Ron moving back down to town to "protect" Marcie, and some level of contact between Ron and the Love Crew. Before their death, I would say it had to have been at least 2-3 months minimum (and probably more) since we had seen either Ben (Ben who) or Julie (the only thing I can remember about her is Jen fixing her Bulimia with one 3 minute conversation).

And if they are doing away with Tim Adams because of the bad feelings between him and Kamar de los Reyes (over Keri Saum) I say keep Timmy baby and make An-phonio the KCK. I am soo tired of phonio and his anger management issues, his wholier than thou attitude and his righteous indignation. Oh, and dont get me started on him calling his "MAAAMMI" every five seconds.

As for Nat/John, it wouldnt surprise me if they bring David Fumero back, given that Christian still kicks off the shows opening credits (or whatever you call the front end.) I use to love Christian and Natalie but that ship has kind of sailed and I would rather see him play the temporary roadblock to Jolie than to have Nat go back to him and abandon John.

What does everyone else thing??

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FROM TV GUIDE: Soap Scoop

Monday, June 6, 2005

Evangeline introduces herself to Spencer after accidentally spilling a cup of coffee on him. John informs Natalie and Michael that Hayes purchased the arrow which came from the crossbow. Meanwhile, Hayes reminds an appalled Marcie how all the publicity about the serial killer can only help spike sales of her book. David learns that Spencer has taken a suite at the Palace. Duke appeals to his grandfather to let Renee go home but Asa refuses to allow either one of his "guests" to leave. When Viki wonders why she's reading up on DID, Jessica nervously claims she's researching a story for the Banner. Natalie tells a skeptical Michael why she's certain his brother still has intense feelings for her. David conducts a surreptitious search of Spencer's hotel room. Viki offers Jessica the benefit of her personal and painful experience with multiple personality disorder. Duke manages to place a brief call to Adriana before Asa's goons catch him. John takes Hayes in for questioning in connection with the Killing Club murders. Renee asks Duke to promise that he won't turn Asa in. Marcie quizzes Michael about his growing friendship with Natalie. Adriana decides to travel to Argentina to search for Duke. Forced to release Hayes, John secretly assigns a cop to tail the press agent. Determined to keep Tess at bay, Jessica locks herself in her room and vows to stay awake all night. Spencer asks Kelly out to dinner.

Tuesday, June 7, 2005

As Jessica sleeps, "Tess" emerges again and is annoyed to find herself locked in. In Argentina, Duke eavesdrops on his grandfather in hopes of learning the details of Asa's secret plan. Spencer finds David waiting in his hotel room but merely laughs off the threats from his uninvited guest.

Jessica battles back for control of her mind and body and wins the fight just in time to prevent "Tess" from taking off. David angrily warns Spencer to leave Llanview on the very next flight. As Adriana arrives in Argentina, Duke tries a new approach on Asa. Marcie has a nightmare about Hayes killing Michael. Jessica scrambles to make things right with Antonio with a tearful declaration of love. Later, she offers to pull some strings to help her man get the dirt on R.J.'s financial problems. Spencer taunts an edgy Paige. Rex overreacts when Ginger casually comments on the Colson case. Jessica accepts Antonio's engagement ring to wear around her neck. Marcie reassures Rex that he was a good friend to Jen.

Wednesday, June 8, 2005

Marcie explains to Ron why she needs to find her old high school yearbook. Natalie tells an exasperated Michael she's going to openly pursue his brother now that she's sure John still loves her. In Argentina, Asa meets with a wary Carlo Hesser. Meanwhile, Duke tells Adriana he fears his grandfather is plotting something terrible. Michael warns Natalie that John is bound to break her heart. A dejected Riley tells Nora he's leaving Llanview but will find some way to repay her for skipping bail. Hayes accuses a jittery Marcie of turning on him after all the help he's given the fledgling author. Kelly and Kevin continue to grow closer as they reminisce about happier days. Nora encourages Riley to get some help for his drug problem because Jen would want him to face a brighter future. Asa offers to wipe the slate clean for Carlo if he'll kill Blair. Evangeline eavesdrops on Natalie and Michael. Marcie explains to John why she now believes that Hayes couldn't be the serial killer. Riley finally agrees to enter rehab after Nora reminds the unhappy young man how much Matthew looks up to him. Later, Nora calls Bo and asks him to bring their son back home. Worried that Asa is going to murder Adriana, Duke hurries his girlfriend away from the estate. Evangeline angrily confronts John.

Thursday, June 9, 2005

Todd and Blair bask in the afterglow following a session of lovemaking. Declaring that she needs to stop "Tess" from destroying her life, Jessica asks Dr. Jamison to hypnotize her. David offers Spencer one hundred grand in cash if he'll leave Llanview forever. Evangeline warns John that they are through unless he can say to her the words which came so easily in front of Natalie. A beaming Nora welcomes Matthew home. Spencer calmly informs David he has no intention of going anywhere.

Fearful that Evangeline has the upper hand, Natalie bitterly complains to Rex about her rival for John's affections. Jessica explains to her therapist how she met her alter ego, then is disappointed when Jamison cautions that hypnosis may be too risky. Antonio attempts to enlist Jackie's help in bringing R.J. down. Matthew senses the renewed tension between his parents in the wake of Daniel's arrest. Paige hisses at Spencer that he's playing with fire. Tired of being the only one making a true emotional commitment to their relationship, Evangeline sadly breaks off her romance with John. Jessica finally convinces a reluctant Dr. Jamison to try luring "Tess" out through hypnosis. Antonio threatens blackmail when Jacquie balks at cooperating. Later, Antonio puts Todd on notice after reading the Sun's headline. Spencer plays rough to warn David off.

One Life to Live Spoilers

Evangeline or no Evangeline, Natalie feels sure that John really loves her. John thinks he has caught the Killing Club killer. Evangeline and John end up in Splitsville! David Vickers is not happy to see Dr. Spencer Truman in Llanview. There's more split-personality drama when "Tess" is revealed to be keeping a dark secret from Jessica. (Didn't Jessie's multiple mama Viki also used to keep secrets from herself?)

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FROM TV GUIDE: Soap Scoop

Friday, June 10, 2005

Michael finds Evangeline sitting alone in the park and is flabbergasted when she tearfully confides that she and John have broken up. Kevin is irked to see Spencer arrive to pick Kelly up for their dinner date. A worried Viki questions Todd after hearing him tell Blair how messed up Jessica has become. Meanwhile, "Tess" hints to Dr. Jamison that she knows what childhood trauma triggered Jessica's split but has no intention of letting him in on the secret. Fending off "Tess'" sexual advances, the therapist attempts to bring Jessica out of her hypnotic trance but the alter ego secretly maintains control. Natalie wonders about the cause of John's dark mood. Todd cautions his sister that Antonio's custody battle has been stressing Jessica out. A very pregnant Margaret peruses her scrapbook as she daydreams about her plans for the bun in her oven.

David urges a perplexed Blair to keep her distance from Spencer before the dangerous doctor ruins her life. Michael berates his brother for blowing it with Evangeline. Viki prods Kevin to confess that he's fallen back in love with his ex-wife. Todd heads to Xanadu to corner his newly wild niece. Spencer is revealed to be David's big brother.

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So what do you think Jessica's big secret is. I am wondering if one of Vicki's alters did something to her.

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probably something sick like Mitch having raped her as a child or Joey? This show is wandering into the gutter!

I remember her being around as a kid, and she seemed just fine!

Hopefully Carlo Hesser gets together with Lindsay and life gets good again!

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WHAT??!!! Lindsey is with RJ. Its about time poor RJ got some good lovin. Let Carlo go get a woman of his own! :D

(I loves me some RJ)

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well, my dream would be to have Alex back ... remember her as Cleopatora? :wink:

I am liking Lindsay more and more all the time ... and RJ too ... believe it or not, it is Antonio who just gets on my nerves!

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one of her alters probably did ...!

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one of her alters probably did ...!

or jessica did and that is what tess is hiding...though It must go back further since Tess seems to hate Vicki so much

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I CANT STAND Anphonio. I think he is the worst part of the show.

Apparently there has been a lot of criticism about the jess did storyline because in real life it almost always involved sexual abuse or some other really horrible abuse in childhood.

Jess said the first time she remembered Tess maybe being there -- when she was having unaccounted for time/blackouts -- was when she lost her baby.

I am guessing that since we already know about that, it has to be something in her childhood. Jess was too young when Mitch was around so I dont see how it could be him, so I am going with it something Vicki did when under the influence of one of her alters. Maybe she locked her up or something like that.

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