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Echo thinks Taylor is getting unfair portrayal when it's pretty obvious all the kids are getting these great portrayals.

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I've seen better efforts :animated_bouncy:

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Don't worry, she'll have some great moment on the show where she learns something life changing and becomes a much better person because of it and blah blah blah. And I'll bet a nickel the majority of you fall for it.

So true, SC! And if we watch it closely enough, we'll see that some of her redeeming qualities where she's helping out, etc. were filmed DAYS if not weeks before her sudden epiphany.

Taylor was picked because she's cute little pageant contestant specifically so they could play up the diva part of her persona. Lines like "I'm a beauty queen, I don't do dishes" are so obviously coming from her handlers that it would be laughable if it weren't so damned pathetic.

I watch this show with a lot of teachers and principals - most of them elementary level, and part of the fun for us is speculating as to which lines that come out of their mouths are genuine and which are suggested. I taught middle school for years and believe me, it doesn't take much for a kid to pick up on what they think an adult wants them to say, especially if it's a zinger. I can only imagine that the younger ones pick up on it even quicker.

Example: I had set up a state of the art television studio for my eighth graders to make videos and broadcast school news. We got a new principal and he wanted to take us backward and simply read the announcements over a closed circuit signal from an ancient VHS camcorder in the library instead of simulcasting it digitally throughout the school and over the Internet from our studio. I was sitting with some of my students when the principal came into my room to see if his closed circuit signal was coming through on my tv set. It had a picture of an ugly-assed bulldog with the letters KDOG under it. My kids called themselves Channel M and had a kick-assed metallic logo one of the kids designed. Under my breath, I said, "Josh is isn't going to like that" and immediately one of the girls next to me went off on the principal, "Why do we have to be KDOG??? We're Channel M and that logo is weak! We had a contest and our logo is way better than that sucky one!"

Is it too difficult to believe that Taylor, like any 10 year old, complained to her handler, "I hate doing dishes," and then was told, "Tell them you're a beauty queen and that you don't do dishes." ???

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Damn, now that was an excellent post surfgranny!!

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it doesn't take much for a kid to pick up on what they think an adult wants them to say, especially if it's a zinger. I can only imagine that the younger ones pick up on it even quicker.

I concur! It's clear that a lot of the things these kids have said were coached or coerced. Jarred definitely, Mike most probably, and Taylor obviously.

I thought I would hate this show when it first came out. I was on my high horse saying how the parents must be whack-a-doos to allow their children to participate. (Although I still feel that I would not allow one of my kids to try this) I will say that some of these kids impressed me quite a lot.

All of them seem to have wisdom beyond their years in one way or another.

The whole slamming root beer and doing 'shots' is just pathetic to me though. Why would a kid want to chug root beer? I think it's obvious that bit was coached.

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I'm not sure who all is reading the media thread, so I am going to post this here... This is an excerpt taken from an interview with some of the parents...

All the parents we spoke to today felt that their kids were not only portrayed favorably, but accurately. As for the children being coached by producers, Sophia's mom has a simple response. "Sophia thinks that it

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I concur! It's clear that a lot of the things these kids have said were coached or coerced. Jarred definitely, Mike most probably, and Taylor obviously.

Its clear? CLEAR? C L E A R as in transparent?

Why? Because these kids say things you have never heard a kid say? So they are coached or coerced? I do not understand the confidence some of you have. I spent 3 years in an elementary school and I have seen everything. I have seen 2nd grade geniuses. 10 year olds that dress and act like they are 18. I have heard a little girl give a speech like a pro. I've heard words spewed by little kids that would make a sailor blush. I had to investigate an incident where a kid came in with a page of porn websites and tried to access them.

Why can't the show be taken at face value until proof otherwise has been submitted?

I buy that the show is edited. I can understand that some shots may have been restaged because a camera wasn't rolling. But, putting words in their mouths? We might as well be watching a scripted show.

I think everything that comes out of Jared's mouth is 100% Jared. Doesn't one of the posters here know him? That should be an easy one to verify.

[Edit] I was typing when Yana posted the above comment. The quote gives credence to what I am saying. Thanks Yana.

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It's clear that a lot of the things these kids have said were coached or coerced. Jarred definitely,

I happen to know this is not true with Jared.

Fuskie

Who knows first hand that today's kids are much smarter than he was at that age...

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Thanks Fuskie... That's why I posted that part of the article... They talk about the fact that Jared is just Jared...

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I agree Baron and thanks for posting that quote Yana. I always know people are edited to show their worst, funniest, most embarrassing moments, but they can only put on what the kid actually does! You can't be portrayed as something unless that act occurred enough for them to put all instances together. A brat is a brat. A diva is a diva. ...and that's all many of us have been trying to say!! :hurray:

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Sure thing Joa... I just thought it was something people needed to see... If the parents think that they are protraying their children how they are, who are we to disagree?

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What I think messes with people's minds is seeing so many kids who stand out against the kids they know in thier life. Its surreal that these kids can be doing these things and making these comments because we all know that kids don't act that way. One conclusion is these kids are coached and told what to say. I offer this explanation instead. The strangeness comes in the casting. The producers didn't take the first 40 kids that applied. The searched through the thousands of entries to find the Sophia's, the Jareds, the Taylors and the Zachs. That's why it seems the kids are being fed lines, but in reality, they are being themsleves and just happen to be kids with exceptional personalities.

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I'll concur that I do believe every kid was selected because each one have the ability to be articulate in front of the camera. And no doubt 1000s of kids applied and were interviewed on camera. Those who were selected, were selected for many of the same reasons adults are selected to be on other reality shows. They have qualities that fit well into the design of show. A few of them have risen to the top as the stars, while others have their individual moments, but are mainly in the background most of the time; they didn't say\do things that ultimately fit into the how the show was edited together. If the show get released on DVD, there's likely to be a lot footage added of the other kids doing\saying some interesting things.

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Coached or not. Adult or child. Your true personality always shines through.

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I noticed the commercial for the next episode after last weeks show, and the one I saw yesterday were completely different. The commercial I saw first mentioned Taylor, but went on to other things, but the one I saw yesterday made it seem like the whole episode will be about Taylor, and mentioned she might be thrown out of town.

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I saw a preview that showed Taylor carrying water buckets and stopping

and knocking them over, she looked mad. Can't wait to see what thats all

about. :animated_scratchchin:

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I love it when she throws a hissy fit because it is very typical of 10 year olds.

No doubt in my mind that the producers had no problem finding good footage of Taylor. Their problem most likely was avoiding making her the center of every episode.

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She probably had her own camera crew following her every move.

Maybe not at first, but it is likely they did start focusing on her more and more over of the 40 days.

For two summers I video taped kids at a summer camp, and there are kids who make very good subjects. There are always a few that feel comfortable in front of the camera, and are not afraid to be themselves with a video camera right in their face. If they are upset, they're no more inhibited about expressing themselves than when they are happy. My perception of Taylor is that she very much like that, and other kids like her because she doesn't hold anything back. We aren't seeing kids hating her, from their perspective, she is normal and also very likeable.

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The girls in her group seem to like her. One of the boys from another group

was bad to her, ripping up her campain posters. Which I thought was very bad

on his part! And other kids told him to knock it off and defended her. I know

that Taylor is liked by the other kids.

Her not wanting to do her part and work is her biggest problem...and I think

thats what the others will not like about her, if it comes up in the show.

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I find that the "bad girl" is usually liked ........and has a following esp. when they're not having to be her boss .....just a friend. She's pretty which automatically makes her a little more popular too. :animated_bouncy:

When I talked to kids her age, they're always talking about the pretty girl being popular .............and getting all the crushes from guys in their class.

I'm sure when it comes to topics for 10 yo's.....she's quite the expert (looking pretty, new pair of jeans, etc).

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In the second commercial it showed the town meeting and Sophia was yelling at her saying "go home". It looked like she wasn't the only one. I'm guessing she will use the "I want to go home" ploy for attention that we saw so much of on Big Brother, and they call her out on it.

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JFECTH said:

In the second commercial it showed the town meeting and Sophia was yelling at her saying "go home". It looked like she wasn't the only one. I'm guessing she will use the "I want to go home" ploy for attention that we saw so much of on Big Brother, and they call her out on it.

All your comments completely baffle me. My guess is that you don't have any children and are not around them very much. Your comments project a perception that this show is an adult reality show and fans pick a couple of their favorites to cheer, and pick a few to trash, just as they do in the other forums (BB, Suvivor, TAR, etc).

This is a reality show that has a target audience of children (8-13). Each week there are 1-2 themes. We see some good behavior, and we see some bad behavior; all that is very typical for kids in this age range. There is no profiled serial killer or complete dead beat loser. After each episode parents can talk with their children about the show and the choices made during that episode. Kids can discuss with their parents what they thought was good and bad, and what they might have done differently.

There are no bad kids in this show. They all are winners, not just a few. This is the intent show's creaters, not just my opinion. I don't know why this isn't so extremely OBVIOUS.

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One of the boys from another group

was bad to her, ripping up her campain posters.

See I'm glad that I'm not the only one that thought that was a male, but according to the articles it was a female...

ETA: The excert from the article that says Markelle is a girl... Which can be found in the media thread...

In which we finally met Markelle only to discover that she's Karl Rove, minus the subtlety. Ripping posters down? Pogo-sticking them into pulpy submission? That's illegal anywhere outside the city limits of Bonanza, hon

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