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Marty I agree with you also. I am not so sure it was an accident either, too suspicious for me. Both her and her son die of accidental overdoses months apart.

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Ditto on the opinion.

But even if it wasn't a slow sneaky push to her death, it certainly kept her oblivious to whatever he was doing with her money.

I wish the media could do that for us -- follow the money!

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Will be interesting to see what comes of Daniel's inquest, which starts today. According to some ppl interviewed on CNN last night, Howard "wanted Daniel out of the way" (!!), kept him from contacting his mom, tried to keep them apart. According to these sources, the reason Daniel flew to the Bahamas was not just to see the baby, but because he wanted contact with his mother, and whenever he phoned if Howard answered, he would hang up.

So, who knows...???

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The scary thing about that, Yath, is that where Mom was is where the drugs were.

Do we know who he was staying with in Florida?

(I had thought he was there all along, so this is a new wrinkle for me.)

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Wish I could remember the name of the"source" on CNN last night. He was on Anderson Cooper's show. According to him--and he seemed very sure of this--Daniel did NOT take drugs, was always lucid and alert, etc. This guy was very outspoken about his opinion that if drugs were in Daniel's system, someone else had to have put them there.

That Howard is guilty of SOMETHING is, I think, a given. Involved in A.N. and/or Daniel's deaths, lying about baby's paternity. Can he get away scot-free? Sure, and probably will. Just look at O.J.

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Not only get away with, but get paid who knows how much as the "inside advisor" for the movies about to be made.

I'm betting he's getting paid right now!

Did any of you catch her show when it was on?

I used to watch it once in a while - never knew who she was before that.

I can truthfully say that I never liked him from the beginning.

But then, I was suspicious of the girl, too.

I thought everyone was using her, maybe even that little dog.

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I agree with you Yath, that a lot of doctors out there are just pill pushers, the quicker they can get you in and out the quicker thay can get another patient in. Like with your back surgery I dont think doctors take the time to figure out the right med (if any at all) over rushing and usually giving someone more then they need.

I dont think she tried to commit suicide, although the circumstances are weird, I would not be surprised if Howard is responsible, unfortunately like you said he will probably get off.

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Someone asked about the Anna Nicole Show. One of my daughter's roomates is Kim (Kimmie on the Anna Nicole Show) She mightl be testifing I heard. She used to go pick up prescriptions for Anna at times. That was over a year ago so that might not come into play in this case. Kim had always kept in touch with Anna and was at her funeral. For some reason Shannon (my daughter) says Kim stayed loyal to Howard Stern. She doesn't say much now but Shannon thinks her feelings are changing about him.

I think the people that enabled her and supported her prescription use need to be held accountable.

I just want that baby OUT of Howard Stern's hands.

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I have to ask this -- I don't think I've ever heard it addressed... but is that baby OK? I mean, Anna was obviously doing drugs of some kind while pregnant. I don't think there is anything obviously wrong, but couldn't things show up down the road? She may have a tough road ahead of her, even without all this mess about her paternity.

Why don't we know who the father is yet?

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I know they did the DNA to find out who the father is but Howard Stern filed to block the results. Now they have to fight that battle.

In the Bahamas he has legal "custody" and it does not matter about paternity.

The baby looks OK but there is always a chance of problems. Really sad.

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You know there have been many times where I needed help getting to the bathroom, when a person is that sick, I needed help with alot of things and that includes someone making sure I take the correct medicine at the correct time.

Im Just Saying :sherlockani:

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Especially if she was running a fever of 105. I remember having a fever of 104 and I was pretty much almost delusional and I couldnt' function hardly at all. I dont' know how many days she ran fever but even when you take something to bring it down it comes back up after a couple hours and sometimes you just start feeling okay and your out of it again, I was in the ER for 15 hours with them trying to bring and keep my fever down and then when they admitted me I was still running 102-103 for a few more days while being on IV antibiotics. So if she was pretty well out of it between fever, sleeping pills, and depression anyone (Howard) could of slipped her anything and even would of got it past the nurse that was suppose to be caring for her. What I dont' understand is why she came to the Bahamas with Howard to pick out a boat when she was obviously sick enough to need a nurse to travel with her at the time, seems to me this was premeditated before leaving the States...just my opinion so Howard dont' try to sue me I have no money..

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Here is another article, now I know it is from teh Star which may not be very credible, but I figured I would post it anyway...

'Exclusive' from Star magazine:

The ENQUIRER and Star have learned that Anna Nicole had a raging blood infection. The infection was caused by an unsterilized needle and contributed to her death.

The infection was so serious, it would have killed her if she had not overdosed.

Contrary to speculation, tests show Anna Nicole did not have methadone or any other painkilling drug in her system at the time of her death.

The ENQUIRER learned that just before she left the Bahamas for Florida on February 5, three days before she died, Anna Nicole received an injection in her left buttock.

Tests did not reveal what that substance was.

"As she boarded the plane for Miami, Anna Nicole developed a painful abscess at the site of the injection," said a source with knowledge of the case. "The needle wasn't sterile. The pain kept getting worse as the abscess got larger and larger very quickly."

From Miami, Anna Nicole and her live-in lawyer Howard K. Stern traveled to Hollywood, Fla. The pain from the abscess became excruciating and Anna Nicole developed a high fever.

By the time she got to the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino her fever was 105.

Anna Nicole, unaware that her blood was being poisoned by infection, had also developed a second infection from a virulent form of norovirus, which causes intestinal problems.

It was at this point that Anna Nicole

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Dr. Perper the Coroner that did the autopsy and has been on all the talk show says it wa the Chloral hydrate that was the bullet that killed her in combination with the other drugs in her system. He does not make much of the infection aspect. dunnno why.

1) The assholes that had been enableing her for years should be held accountable. They helped kill her

2) I just want that baby away from Howard Stern. I just want to know the results of the DNA test. (probably Larry is the father) I know there is going to be a long long battle for Larry to get his baby if she is his. Howard has the Bahamian law behind him and will fight Larry for a long time. The law in the Bahamas does not recognize paternity just legal custody. Since Howard's name is on the birth certificate as the father that is who they recognise as the father.

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Where are all these pill pusher doctors? I feel like a junkie begging for a fix just to get a percodan after gum surgery.

None of my doctors want to give me anything. I'd love a pill pushing doctor.

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Howard K. Stern Appeals Paternity Ruling

"The Insider" confirms that HOWARD K. STERN has filed an appeal in the Bahamian paternity battle over ANNA NICOLE SMITH's baby girl, DANNIELYNN.

For more information on this breaking story, stay tuned to "The Insider."

Last week, Howard, the man whose name is on the baby's birth certificate, was ordered by a Bahamian judge to bring Anna's daughter in for a DNA swab. He drove the baby in himself, and LARRY BIRKHEAD, Anna's former boyfriend, who also claims to be the father, was also reportedly swabbed for a DNA sample.

Test results typically take three to five days. However, there is a gag order in effect in this case that will keep the identity of the father confidential until at least April 3rd, when the next meeting in the paternity case will take place. The date was set to allow Stern time to appeal.

A battle has also been brewing between Birkhead and Anna's estranged mother VIRGIE ARTHUR. On last week's "Nancy Grace," Virgie's lawyer stated that his client wants to raise Dannielynn, which had Larry quickly responding.

"No one will take my child and raise it except me," he said. "That is final. She is my baby girl and I will raise her."

Virgie responded, telling "The Insider," "The most important thing in my life right now is the safety of Dannielynn. I do not believe Howard is the child's father and most certainly not the right person to be looking after her. If that means seeking custody while this mess is sorted out, then that is what I will do. I know and like Larry but of course I want to be a part of Dannielynn's life and for her to grow up in the happy and stable environment she needs."

Dannielynn's DNA was most likely sent to a DNA diagnostic center lab near Cincinnati, OH, which already has Anna Nicole's DNA. When contacted, the lab told "The Insider" that there is a gag order in the case and that they cannot comment.

"The Insider" has learned, however, that once Dannielynn's DNA test is complete, the sample must either be destroyed or never be used again for any other purpose.

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I don't know anything about the Bahamian law in terms of all this, but it's chilling to think that Howard could, in fact, remain this baby's custodial parent, no matter what the DNA shows.

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I could happen. The way Bahamian law is written.

In the end after a long battle I think they will find out so much bad shi+ about Howard that he will be deemed unfit. By then Dannilynn will be 2 years old. He will end up the most hated man in America. (and Bahamas)

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the most hated man...?? I wonder. Perhaps for a short while, but sadly people have very short memories, and "hates" don't last long.

We could, however, give Howard a permanent position in our Hate thread.

Awww, can't joke about this--that poor little girl.

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When it comes to people abusing and using children my hate is long.

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Me too Marty. And I have personal reasons why that is a line firmly drawn for me. The devastation wreaked upon an abused child is soul-destroying.

That said, I believe that the public indignation and concern for the baby--although it is entirely sincere-- will die down as the next story surfaces.

I just don't want little Dannylynn to be forgotten.

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Entertainment Tonight paid him $3 million, yup -- $3 million -- for the exclusive rights to footage of the funeral.

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I hate Howard K Stern. God help that baby.

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