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Thank you for you honest reply.  It gave me a good giggle this afternoon.  I will address the comment about the comps.  You are correct in that the puzzle veto comp she did very well.  I don't discount she performed very well.  If you go back and read the blog where I discussed this actual comp you will see that I gave her credit for killing the puzzles.  The blogs are fluid and since there's so much to cover they do become 'long winded' as you yourself point out imagine if I had to go back to week one and walk people through every single thing I've already covered to make a current point.

 

I also never implied she played in all eight comps.  That may be how you interpreted it, that was not my intent.  I've been blogging about this since the BBOTT season began and many things are referencing what I have said or reported in previous blogs.  These are chapters in one 10 week season by design. As I mention all the time in the blog, I ask Alex fans what they like about her game.  Also, as I have said, the one of the most common answers I get is 'she won two comps'.  The sword comp she totally earned 100% on her own merit.  Again, they make it sound like Alex is the only one winning anything, she's no Janelle.  Plastic fans go on these tangents about she's the best competition player in the game. If you wish to give her that label for winning 2 out of 8 total comps played, feel free.  I however, don't agree with the reason she's this amazing player is because she's won two comps.  She hasn't won every comp she's played in, she hasn't won every comp that's happened. She's won 2 comps, that's a fact. That's where the reference to 2/8 (total comps not just the sum of which she's competed in).  LOL.  By the way, go cut out the actual transcripts of today's post detailing nearly word for word of the DR's for almost 100 minutes of talking by the all 10 HG collectively and it would be drastically shorter.  Trust me I know, I am the one that sat there and endured listening to them all more than once and typing nearly every word almost word for word in most of it. 

 

However, the "crap shoot" reference I make in this blog for people that read them all, refers to how that veto comp was designed to begin with.  That head to head type competition there is time for rounds no just a single elimination. This was discussed by a LOT of LF's on how that comp was played.  The one and only round in this one typically could have been played and the last person, Danielle would have been eliminated completely from round one.  By design (the rules on the comp and how it was played) the puzzle veto the way BB did only one round, you lose, your out is a crap shoot design.   The draw determining the order, and essentially the minute Justin chose Danielle Alex was guaranteed one of the two vetoes. She earned it in that she beat each player she faced off with and was damn fast.  However, had it been played in multiple rounds, eliminating only one veto player each round would she still have won?  I'm not so sure about that. Had it been solely a mental comp (puzzles) where one HG was out of the running by the end of the round was and started a new round with remaining players again last one knocked out eliminated would have not made this a crap shoot type comp.  The comp lasted all of what 9 minutes?  The design of that comp and how it was played makes it by a 'crap shoot' type comp. It was also her COMP, in the same way that the golf comp was Shane's comp.  Let's not forget she sits around, by her own admission, playing Tetris all the time!  

 

BB has done it both ways single elimination one round and multiple rounds.  For things like double eviction night quick comps like this are used to limit the time comps are played during live shows.  This is live feeds and we can watch 5 hours of competition if we need to.  Not saying that should have been a 5 hour comp but I am saying the odds of her winning that same comp in multiple rounds are not nearly as good as the odds of her winning this format.  Do you honestly think she still beats Justin had she been forced to face off with him.  Or Danielle for that matter?  Luck had a lot to do with the outcome of that comp.  Pure and simple.  It doesn't hold as much weight for me as her standing there with that sword for 2 1/2 hours. If it does for you, great.  I don't just talk about what I see on the feeds, I also address twitter trends, forums, chat rooms, podcasts, things I talk to other fans about.  I try as much as I can to keep a pulse on as much as I can.  In the end, these are my opinions woven into the hours and hours I spend on the feeds every day.  Feel free to love the Plastics for whatever reasoning you have.  I will continue to feel free to be annoyed and frustrated with her lack of game (like MANY other live feeders) and how it has drawn such a large following who have chosen to get behind her because she won 2 comps and manipulates them with what she says versus what she actually does.  To each their own.  

 

 

 

 

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@Janthanks for the support.  I know there are plenty of LF's that talk about all these same points.  

 

For the blog readers, It's not just about Plastics v LNC.  It's the Alex specific that was just baffling, not just me but many live feeders. Whether we like the LNC or not. I do get the fan groups that like the "Plastics" personalities over the LNC personalities.  That's a personal preference and it's always going to happen in this game. 

 

I am not surprised that people suddenly turned on Jason because he spewed so much that was strictly a personal attack on Shelby and not just focused his rant on basic points versus calling her a prostitute and giving sexual favors for votes.  LF's in general don't like that kind of behavior.  But where was that same uproar when Shelby or Alex says things that are just as bad?  They applaud Scott and want to save him after he does these things to Danielle? Danielle or Jason says something about the Plastics and there's a huge campaign against them?   I could list pages and pages of things Shelby especially has said that are no better than what Jason said.  Fans are as hypocritical as HG's sometimes.  

 

As I finish this Jason is calling Scott out on this very topic 8:29 pm.  Explains his back and forth with Shelby is not a strategy it's two people who just don't like each other.  Scott does it to pimp America's vote, harassing and personally attacking Danielle (and Kryssie) for that matter all the time as his strategy!  Just like Shelby does!   Thank you Jason for making my point for me once again! 

 

It's ok for Plastics to do it (and the fandom grows the meaner they are) to the point Alex says keep being a b*itch to Shelby clearly America loves it.  She's not wrong that's exactly what they like about her and the same exact reasons they use to hate the LNC.  I don't like listening to the Plastics trash talk all day but I attack their games or lack of game.  I say it frustrates me they waste all their time doing that when they could be strategizing, playing a good social game to help them get things done, plant seeds, build connections so when you need to make a game move you can on your own with leg work.   Instead they do as little as possible, rely on America to come in and do the work they didn't bother to do themselves because they were too busy laying around talking crap about how much much they don't like everyone else, or how much trash the other side talks and they aren't like them.  For that they get handed things for it vote after vote? 

 

 I'm not too worried.  The Plastics are getting cockier and cockier and all this 'America loves me' will be what also ruins their chances in the game. Just like the live feeders creating free trial accounts to rig voting in the Plastics' favor ended up with CBS suspending all trial subscriptions. What goes around comes around.  Be glad things have not been going well all season long for the LNC side all season so far, because the second half of the game is about to begin with the week 5 HOH competition right now and there's lot more game to be played by players actually playing!  

 

 

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Halfway There!

 

Week 5 is a pivotal week for both sides. Let’s talk ACP!

 

Plastics fans are pretty much all voting Shelby ACP.  They don’t split votes which makes them more effective in voting.  A Shelby ACP means she can cancel 3 of the misfits votes (all of them) and maybe one of their own if they don’t manage to get a misfit as nominee (they want Kryssie since Dani isn’t available).  

 

Shelby ACP guarantees no matter who is on the block come eviction Plastics control the vote and if a misfit is there they will go home no matter what. Even with two Plastics OTB they still have 3 votes.  If by some miracle a Plastic is America’s nominee they still have ability to cancel all 3 Misfits votes and decide which Plastics go home.  Saving Alex and potentially Scott or Shelby sending Morgan or Whitney home in their worst case scenario.

 

If there are 2 Plastics up as Dani’s nominee, and a Misfit ends up  OTB as America nominee the misfit goes home.  Shelby can cancel the other 2 misfit votes and one of the Plastics and still have deciding power on Kryssie going home (assuming she will be their nominee which is how things are trending). 

 

Now lets talk misfits.  There are arguments for giving to Dani and letting her control HOH.  However, there are other things to consider.  This is week 5 and week after week Plastics are winning the popular vote because misfits fans keep splitting votes. If Plastics win ACP this week misfits are more likely to lose another number and the house will be down to 3 v 5 in the house.

 

Danielle is HOH.  If we give Dani ACP, trying to save a ‘better’ one for Jason next week then Jason wins HOH the misfits fans only option is Justin for Co-HOH next week.  That’s it, if fans gave Dani ACP this week. 

 

However, voting Jason ACP this week lets him control the votes as long as two Plastics are on the block he can eliminate the other three Plastics votes assuring Misfits have voting power whether a Misfit is up as America nominee or not.  That also means next week, when Plastics fans come for Dani (she wont be eligible to compete in HOH week 6) misfits fans can all give her the Co-HOH ACP.   Saving her from being nominated week 6 and giving a misfit a nominee to name whether Jason/Justin/Kryssie wins week 6 HOH or a Plastic. That can still help protect Jason/Justin if you can manage to save Kryssie this week. If Kryssie goes home this week and a misfit doesn’t win HOH, or get the ACP Justin/Jason/Dani all in serious trouble. Remember if fans waited to give Jason ACP week 6 he wouldn't be eligible to play in DE HOH in week 7. This way it's Dani who can't compete in DE HOH week 7 not Jason. 

 

Taking the approach of Jason ACP this week leaves Justin eligible to receive week 7 ACP and receive the DE veto if misfit doesn't win that HOH.  Also leaves Jason/Justin eligible for week 7 double eviction HOH comp as long as neither wins week 6 HOH. Even if you don't like Dani, saving her one more week next week leaves her vulnerable week 7 when double eviction happens and saves the DE Veto CP for Justin. 

 

Imagine if misfits’ fans are left with only Justin as an option for Co-HOH next week (week 6) if Jason happens to win week 6 HOH because you gave Dani ACP this week?  Then neither Jason/Justin could play in week 7 double eviction HOH comp and Justin can't get DE Veto ACP week 7 either.

 

That would be the only real option left for misfits fans to vote ACP for a misfit if the vote went for Danielle this week anyway.  Quite frankly if you try to vote Dani this week and so many others misfits are campaigning and voting Jason the vote is split and Shelby wins the majority giving her ACP.  Jason/Justin are dead in the water next week if Plastic wins week 6 HOH. Or if Jason wins HOH week 6 he can't compete week 7 double eviction and fans only had Justin as option to give co-HOH ACP next week you've now made it so your two favorite players can't compete in week 7 HOH! 

 

Remember the splitting votes is giving the Plastics the advantage so if you're a Plastics fan that’s great for you and your favorites.  If you’re a misfits fan you are handing the control to Plastics week after week.  Plastics fans went so far last night on Reddit to enlist people on twitter and Reddit to go take polls for misfits ACP voting polls and all vote Danielle to throw off the polls and split the votes so Misfits fans can never win the popular vote.  That’s how petty this has become.  Even the Plastics know everything this week depends on them getting the ACP again this week. 

 

While the idea that many misfits have in giving some control back to the HOH, much like fans did the week, Scott had HOH as things stand today BBOTT is well beyond that point in this season.  I’ve heard a lot of Jason fans say they want to save a better ACP for him in future weeks but the chances of nailing that when looking at the voting they are up against gets smaller and smaller every week.  It’s a sad fact fans are so entangled in this voting war they willingly messing with the integrity of the game but that’s where BBOTT and all the voting power given to America has led us.  In the end voting Jason this week is the best strategic option based on the facts. 

 

Bottom line Plastics will vote Shelby ACP and if misfits fans continue to split the votes as they have week after week they are handing the majority vote to Plastics.  Dani ACP sounds all well and good but this is BB and you always have to be thinking ahead.  Dani ACP this week means if Jason happens to win HOH next week, Dani will be the Plastics America nominee, and the only misfits eligible for ACP will then be Justin as CO-HOH with Jason.  Dani ACP week 6 for co-HOH only leaves her vulnerable week 7 HOH comp of neither Jason/Justin wins HOH next week. If Jason does win HOH neither he or Dani can compete in week 7 DE HOH but fans can hand veto to Justin at least. 

 

A Jason ACP this week, leaves Dani eligible for ACP next week where she can be CO-HOH, avoid being nominated by Plastics fandom,  and actually have the ability to make one of the week 6 nominations.  Jason ACP this week also means Jason has the ability to actually get a Plastic out this week, shaking their numbers down to an even again 4 versus 4 in the house.  So when week 6 comes around the odds are equal on people will have to start making some tough decisions versus letting Plastics run away with this game because their fans are handing it to them.  So choose carefully.  Twitter is pushing hard for a Jason ACP on the misfits side understanding all the factors to be considered and explained in today’s blog for you misfits fans.  

 

Plastics fans are using better strategy in America voting than their players in the game. LOL. Misfits fans can’t keep complaining everything is going Plastics way if you aren’t willing to agree as a majority the way they do and pile all the votes on the same misfit.

 

One key thing to remember is Jason/Justin/Dani are actually playing the game!  They have the tools and strategic chops to maneuver this game against the playersi in the house but they can’t beat America’s voting. 

 

Plastics have relied so heavily on the votes going in their favor that we have yet to see what they can really do when things aren’t handed to them.  Fandom has set them up to fall and fall hard.  They walked in the house last night after the HOH and in less than 3 minutes (9;33 pm cam 1/2) started pleading with America to vote Kryssie for the nominee and the ACP knowing thats the only way they can assure their survival.  Do misfit fans want to give that to them again?  Quite frankly, I can’t knock the Plastics’ fans voting at this point (week 5) all they want to do is save Alex and they know if misfits give misfits ACP her odds of survival go down drastically.  She or Scott have a very good chance of going home.  Remember Alex cannot receive another CP at this point!  Neither can Scott!  

 

Vote for your team.  Use what the BB Gods gave you at this point.  I just hope people are really thinking about the big picture and how these ACP and eviction votes roll out based on your voting and are thinking about where the game is at in week 5. 

 

Did Plastics fans really consider that giving Alex ACP week 4 make her incredibly vulnerable right as the game reaches the halfway point?  Scott and Alex the two strongest players on that side of the house are out of the ACP running for at least this week and next no matter what. Where misfits all, three of their strongest players are eligible and if fans unite and pile the votes on the Jason they can take back voting control.

 

 

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I've lost interest in this America's game.  They might as well just fast forward to the end and end this stupid concept that America has total control of.  If I was in the house I would just leave because it's not even bb anymore.  it's American idol.

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Aimee. First, TY so very much for all your hard work and even your efforts to be equitable to P fans. However, you are 3 hrs behind the majority of misfits fans on east coast. I kept coming to your blog for insight on how to vote. Finally, I went by those other poll sites - showing dani as fave for misfit getting CP. Now, I'm stuck knowing I gave 20 votes already to Dani and not knowing where to put the last 20 - Jason or Dani? No wonder our votes keep getting split. I really wanted to vote with majority of misfits fans. No resource on internet reliable to get a feel for who that truly is. I will wait this time as long as possible to be sure for my last 20 votes. Will keep coming back to this blog. Your blog above still leave misfits fans wondering who to give - if we can't trust other sites with Polls, then we will be split yet again. I encourage you to be quick and decisive for all the other voting opportunities for us misfit fans who are lost on the internet like me! I promise that if you do that - I'll wait to read your blog before voting from now on. Again, TY for your blog and insights - I've seen mostly the same way you have for a while now.:D I had to write this - because above you helped P fans know exactly who to give CP to- with no doubts - yet you left us Misfit fans in the dark between two choices - knowing Dani is shown on other sites as fave for misfits vote = I would of just stuck with that - so vote isn't split again - but it is not my blog. Sorry. Begging for a clear choice for misfits - quicker and clearer - TY!!

HOLD UP  - I just found out the CBS VOTING SITE was RESET because they had mistakenly put ALEX on it earlier today - SO ALL YOU EARLY VOTERS CAN NOW GO BACK and RE-VOTE!! MY first 20 just now went to JASON for CP!!  YAY!! No split votes for Misfit fans! Oh, and the P fans should go and recast today's votes also - to be fair .

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Not sure if you or your readers knew that the votes were reset! Inconvenient, but a fortunate favor to those who may have voted for Dani or Morgan.

 

 

 

 

 

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The Calm Before the Storm

 

Here is a summary of the conversations and events from he point of the final two questions of the HOH comp through the first 15 minutes in the house following Danielle's win.  It includes the details of production cheering for Whitney at the end of the comp.  How the Plastics reacted to Danielle's win and how the Misfits react4ed initially to the victory.  Jason is really seeming down.  The production reactions and the way voting has been going he feels he is likely to be the next America's nominee.  Not dwelling but what his reads are based on the voting and the events last night during the comp he feels they are definitely not liked by America and he and Danielle agree they are just going to handle it and Danielle is dying to win HOH to make sure if the AN is a misfit they won't stay on the block.

 

 

Question 5

 

Daniele v Whitney HOH 

Both answer True

True is correct

 

You can hear production very softly say 

“yes!” 9:23:24 pm 

Just before comp host/announcer confirms, “You both got it right, please reset.”

(throughout the announcements by the competition host/announcer you can hear the announcer being fed lines juts before they are spoken)

 

Question 6

In Breaking Ball there are 4 green balls on the ground?

9:23:47pm

Danielle starts to answer False hesitates (clearly thinking) to change to true, at the same moment but sticks with initial instinct and sets false.

 

Whitney begins to very slightly turn and false is looking like where she’s turning initially

but quickly decides to Answer TRUE

 

You can hear production whispering in the background in between announcers promptings

“oh, no…” (when Danielle has gone false and Whitney chooses to go with True)

You can hear “shhhhhhhhh!” by production female voice

 

Danielle second guesses herself flips it to TRUE for a split second and you can clearly hear

“Oh shit!” and various whispers but that you can make out cleary because Danielle has now changed it for a split second to True (matching Whitney’s incorrect answer which would have meant they went to the next question. 

all of a sudden you hear excitedly, “Oh Shit!” background whispers from production again followed quickly by the female voice from production angrily,

“shhhh you guys f*cking stop!.” (female voice)

 

Danielle had changed to True all of a sudden, but just as quickly back gone right back to false without hesitation. 

 

-Honestly I was screaming at her ‘never change your first answer!  Always stick with your first answer!  I had no idea if she was right or not but my gut said she was and she needed to stick with it!  I’m a teacher and  9/10 times your first answer when you second guess yourself is in fact the correct answer.  Never change an answer you had chosen once you chose it. Instincts out perform over thinking almost every time! If she had changed it they both would have answered incorrectly and gone on to question 7, which at least they both got the same answer right or wrong.

 

You can also tell production muted all their sound momentarily just before announcer returns saying, “Answers Locked.” the second you hear his Mic is turned back on.  

 

BB Announcer

“The answer is Fasle.”

Long pause 

“Danielle’,(hesitation before continuing) “You are the winner! “

 

All the HG spend a few minutes admiring the background photos which include sharp shots of live show pictures they haven’t seen. They’ve been called for an indoor lockdown nd the announcement is repeated at 9:30:01pm and you can hear Justin, “Yeah, we got it, we got it.” to the LNC and you hear Danielle say to BB as they all herd their way to the back door, “we can’t hear you, but we know we are supposed to go….”

 

9:30 pm HG begin to re-enter house from BY all four cams on general kitchen area

 

Shelby, Morgan, and Whitney head straight into TKB, Alex begins to and says “I’m gonna get water first.”  

 

Danielle enters Kitchen where Alex is and says, “I learned form those pictures I need to get dressed more often.”

 

Alex makes an effort to laugh

 

Danielle, “I was in pajamas in every single one of them.” heads back to BR area

 

cam change

1/2 KIT area

3/4 TKB

Justin enters house from BY (cam 1/2)

(Jason sneaking a quick smoke)

Justin walks to Alex who is at the frig with both doors open looking inside.  Justin says,“Good game Alex.” giving her a slight side hug from behind.

 

Alex, “Thanks. Thats was a good game, good game everyone.”

 

9:31 pm cam 3/4

Scott, Shelby, Morgan, Whitney. TKB

 

Scott whispering to Shelby and Morgan 

 

It’s his time.  If he had to take one for the team…I made it to Halloween 

 

Morgan

Yeah, America’s nom.

 

Scott

Don’t get down, don’t give up, we till have hope.  We still got a lot of game left.

 

M

Right

 

 

Scott

I haven’t counted the vote scenarios but

 

Took them all of 90 seconds to begin asking America to play their game for them.

 

Morgan

America’s nom.  Care Package could go to one of us.   

 

Alex has joined the room 9:31pm

 

Scott

Yep. Yeah.  It could be Co-HOH. Don’t know. 

 

Shelby points to Scott, then Morgan, then herself saying

You’re (Scott) the most screwed, You're (Morgan) the second most screwed.  I’m the third most screwed.

 

Alex

Hey America, want to help us out again? 

 

Scott

America that would be great.  America, I think I’m gonna have trouble getting Danielle out this week. (In his many long chat with LF last week he promised to get Danielle out this week and maker her life a living hell.  Promised to troll her all week and make it his mission to get Danielle out of the house.

 

Morgan

I adjust happy at least we got Neely out. 

 

Shelby

They can’t all go our way.  

 

Scott

Exactly

 

Shelby

It went our way last week (week 3).  It went our way this week (week 4).  It’s not all gonna go our way.

 

Alex

Eventually one of us is going to end up going.  We’re gonna fight.  We’re gonna make it interesting. 

 

Random topic change to food.  The entire time Whitney has been unpacking her suitcase while these four stood in a circle in the middle of the room talking. 

 

Alex

Whitney you were so close

 

Whitney

I know.  Like I am so upset.  Yeah, that’s hard one question away.

 

-Considering the only three people that got the very first question wrong were; Alex, Shelby and Scott.  Leaving it all up to Morgan and Whitney.  Morgan went out soon after the three amigos leaving only Whitney to battle against J/J/D all by herself.  

 

Shelby

I know.  We were all routing for you Whitney.

 

Alex

Man, the second us three got out first I was like

 

Shelby

Like we’re f*cked

 

Morgan exits BR

Kryssie enters BR

 

Alex

yeah

 

Shelby and Alex immediately exit the BR headed to KIT talking about cookie dough

Scott exits same moment and heads into HNB

 

Leaving Kryssie and Whitney alone

 

Whitney finished unpacking rolls her suitcase out at the same time Scott walks out of HNB and into the KIT after the girls

 

9:33 pm

Morgan, Alex, Shelby enter storage room together to get food talking about food for a second until Scott enters and then they stop cold turkey huddle up and Alex begins…

 

Alex

Alright, we need to get Kryssie up as America’s Nom

 

Morgan and Shelby nod agreeably 

 

Like hard core

Alex immediately turns to camera. giver her rah rah smile and says

America, if you wanna keep helping us out (basically if you wanna keep playing the game for them) 

 

Scott

That’d be great.

 

Morgan and Alex actually turn away from the camera Alex was facing and together face the opposite came so we see their backs and throw they arms up

Alex Kryssie for America's Nom

 

Shelby laughs at them

 

Morgan does some random cheer move and begins to spell out Kryssie’s name with her body but to the wrong camera.

 

Shelby

So with two of us up, one of them is America’s nom

 

Alex

For sure

 

Camera cuts away from them changes room to TKB where Kryssie and Whitney are

 

K

I you win it next week it will be even better for you.  Cause you know you’re staying.

 

Whitney is crying and not one of her own squad pays her really any mind, bothers to console her, just het you almost had it and left the room.

 

K

And you know somebody up there was really sad that you didn’t get it (They all heard production! Kryssie is referring to productions’ comments during the comp.

 

W

I know.  That’s hilarious. 

 

K

Which, I though was really cute.

 

Whitney can be heard sniffling while she busies herself unpacking.  

 

Kryssie

Well here, as the house crier, I’m gonna give you a hug.

 

Whitney crying hugs her and says

Thank You

 

Kryssie

You did great.

 

W

Thanks

 

K

And I’m glad I didn’t compete in that because those comps are impossible. 

 

 

W

I’m really good at memorization.  So I was like, YES! 

 

K (getting ready to change her clothes)

Well, its tough because you never know what they’re looking for. 

 

W

I know

 

K

But, you did great.  Don’t be disappointed.  I know that’s easier said than done but…(as she heads out of the room).

 

Camera cuts back to storage room again

Shelby

Ok. I’m gonna go change into pajamas and eat ice cream.

She and Alex exit

 

Scott fist bumps Morgan

 

Morgan

I am happy we made the move against the house. I would have been so upset if I went with the other side of the house.  And, we got out a big player (LOL-Neely is a big player?).  Like she was a huge social threat, we still have the numbers, the care package could go our way.

I don’t think they should be throwing your name in the mud like that.  I think you deserve to stay to have a fighting chance because I think that’s B*LLSH*T!

 

I’m out you can go back and watch this if you want.  Not dragging through the post eviction drama.  Scott is being a jacka*s on purpose as part of his strategy to get America to vote for them and it’s both he and Alex’s idea. 

 

 

 

You can see the totally different actions and conversations on the two sides the first 15 minutes back in the house.  

 

9:42 TKB 

Kryssie/Whitney 

Whitey is crying and Kryssie is trying to comfort her.  Encouraging her.  When Shelby comes back in TKB format he UKB and sits on the bed next to Whitney.

 

Alex enters and Kryssie exits

 

Alex

You ok Whitney?

 

W

Yeah, it just sucks to be that close.

 

Alex as she shoves a handful of food in her mouth

I know.  Your time’s going though. 

 

Scott enters sees Whitney crying and approacher her with a side hug to comfort her

 

Whitney 

Im just sad it was so close

 

Scott

You did amazing

 

Alex still stuffing handfuls of some snack in her mouth

You really did

 

Scott

Me, Alex, Shelby we had no f’ing clue what we were doing. 

 

Whitney

When you guys went out first I was like ohhhh OMG

 

Alex

I almost flipped it at the last second and I flipped it back. 

 

Scott

That’s the thing Whitney, we still have a lot of game left. 

 

Alex munching away

A lot…of…game….to be played

We have a care package.  It’s probably going to be Co-HOH, that can change things. 

 

Scott

If it comes down to it this week, and it’s my time to go, I made Halloween! I’m such a big target right now, don’t even sweat it Whitney.  DOn’t even sweat it.

 

Whitney crying and crying

 

Shelby

Whitney, no one’s disappointed in you.

 

Alex munching and looking at the camera not Whitney 

No, no no no.

We’re real proud of you.

 

Morgan enters with her bowl of whatever sits next to Whitney

 

Shelby

We all dropped like flies.  I’m gonna cry watching you cry.

 

Morgan gets up and give Whitney a hug and tells her its ok.

 

 

-Talk about the CP begins again.  Alex says There’s so much that can happen in this game. Just keep fighting. CP could be co-HOH, there’s America’s nom.  This is mostly Morgan, Scott, and Alex doing all the relying on America’s voting as you can see. Morgan’s America mentions are  almost as bad as Alex now.  Been mentions hat America doesn’t like Danielle.  

 

No actual strategic game talk at all.  No mention of winning an actual veto.  Just America, America, America.  No focusing really on the fact Whitney was this upset for about 12 minutes while Kryssie and Justin have both consoled her.  Great team!  Way to let Whitney know exactly where she falls in these branches.  If I were Whitney this would be my biggest take away.  

 

Shelby is the only one to point out, “things can’t go our way all the time” when they all keep going back to America’s voting.  It’s been 14 minutes since they re-entered the house and this has to be at least the 14th time they’ve mentioned it.  

 

 

 

 

Kryssie point out again that at least she knows someone out there (production) adores her.  Whitney says she knows, how surprised she was.  Kryssie tells her again she’s thinks its sweet.

 

 

 

9:31 pm KIT cam 1/2 Jason/Kryssie/Danielle

Jason is pointing out the way they are being portrayed in the photos from he season. 

Then replaying pictures and questions from comp bananas, balls, colors of things, etc…

 

Kryssie heads off to TKB

Danielle goes to memory wall and whispers to Shane’s photos but talking to both Shane and Nelly.  Jason meanders over and joins her at the memory wall photos.  

 

Dani

“This is for ya’ll.  I love ya’ll.  I love you Neely. I love you Shane. Well, I don’t know if I can tell you I love you, but I like you a lot.  

 

Jason cracks up, then tells her “You’re an idiot.”

 

Dani

But, Neely, I love you girl.

 

Jason heads towards BA does a arm throw you celebration for 1.2 seconds and says “Well I’m still not eating.

 

Danielle

Well, anything you want…I can save for you. I will say the alcohol for Friday night. 

 

Jason

Yes. Please do, so we can be like tipsy messes. I am so proud of you.

 

Danielle

I will save it for you.

 

Jason

I am so proud of you. 

 

Both head towards BA

 

Danielle

When I heard that it was just me, you, Justin, and Whitney

 

Now we have picture in KIT but off camera we can her Danielle, Jason, and Justin all talking over each other about winning this comp

 

Danielle

When they went out, the first three I was like

 

Justin

Congratulations!  You held it down.  You held that down, YOU HEAR ME!  YOU HELD THAT SH*T DOWN!  

 

Danielle

When I heard the first three I was like Praise Jesus thank you God!  Now let me get the rest of these questions right.

 

Talks about the question everyone got wrong and she was still in it.  Then she asks Jason, 

Could you hear them (production) say, “no, Whitney.”  I could hear them say that when she got it wrong. I was like what if I got it wrong too?  Then when they like…

 

Justin yells at the camera or BB in general

Well, thanks for letting us know who you favor on the uh other side production, we appreciate that. 

 

Danielle

Maybe they just wanted it to drag on

 

Jason 

Much appreciated

 

Danielle suggests, 

To make it more dramatic.

 

General chit chat, Justin washing his face, Jason needs to wash make up off.  

 

Danielle asks

BB can I get a picture of my sonic the DR please? We idon’thave to bring it out. I just want to see his picture in the diary room.

 

Justin

We get this sh*t another week.  Yeah. 

 

Danielle

And please don’t make it all pictures of me.  It will make me look so self centered. Please?  No pictures of me lol. I just don’t want a bunch of selfies of me from my IG.

 

Jason

Who cares?  Those girls are gonna tear them apart anyway right?

 

Danielle more seriously 

No.  They’re not. Because my IG pictures are fire as f*ck. lol. No one can talk sh*t about my IG pics.  I only post the best of the best. Trust and believe. 

 

Kryssie enters with Whitney close behind.

 

Asks is Kryssie was going to change.  Kryssie tells her to go ahead.

 

Shelby enters and Dani tells her Whitney just went in the WC

 

Talk about food begins.  Pizza, ice cream.  Justin and his pizzas.  Shelby asks what she thinks she will get pictures of.  Will there be pictures of her friends?  Hopes for pics of her sisters, friends.  Talk about who signed releases. 

 

Camera cuts away as Shelby begins to change in BA while talking to J/D.

 

Morgan cooking turkey burger.  Scott and Alex in KIT dealing with food as well.

 

Camera back to BA

 

9:38 pm 

Alex enters.  Morgan enters.  Justin exits.  Whitney exits WC.  Shelby enters WC.  They are discussing BY, shade, the photos from comp.  Danielle’s guess about the number of balls. 

 

Shelby puts on a zip up hoodie and says Monte’s jacket is pretty comfy.  “Thanks Monte, I know you would never lend this to me if you had a choice. “

 

Morgan asks why his sweatshirt is a small?  They joke about Monte’ clothes and Alex says everything but those tights he didn’t want to wear. 

 

Back to talking about photo’s in comp outside.  Jason asked which CP that one photo was, where he had a towel or something and Alex says it was her CP.   All the girls leave together and discuss having the UKB tonight to themselves.  

 

-No, tKryssie isn’t HOH so she will go back to her room. 

 

9:40 pm Jason and Danielle alone in BA discussing who to nominate.  Jason speculates he will probably be America’s nom.  They can’t make him a HN again.  Danielle says she’s gonna have to win veto this week she doesn’t want AN OTB. 

 

They whisper to each other the girls coming in and being chatty and friendly.  Jason asserts they’re gonna do whatever they can and throw all kinds of things at you like hanging out.  Too late, isn’t it?  They discuss Neely leaving. 

 

Danielle

I would nominate very single one of you if I could.  I want them all out. I have to win veto I don’t want AN OT, if it’s one of us.

 

Jason

Seems like it will be. Clearly production favors them.  And America favors them ,so…that’s fine we’ll just have to fight along.  I will probably be AN, because they can’t make me HN again.  I was next in line behind Neely, so…

 

Danielle

I just pray to God they make Scott a HN, I mean make Scott America’s nom.

 

Jason

Scott can’t be a HN

 

Danielle

He can’t be a HN but he could be America’s nom.

 

Jason

I don’t think they will if  they just voted for him to stay.

 

Danielle

I don’t think that They did.  Do you know for sure that Justin voted to evict Scott?

 

Jason

I think so.  I asked him.  He said yeah. IDK

 

D

IDK

 

J

But to hear production cheering for Whitney and not you definitely is telling. 

 

D

I hear them clear as day on the last question

 

J

It was oh no Whitney

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The Week of the Grasshoppers and the Ants

 

 

So there was so much going on leading up to the eviction and following it that I want to just quickly touch base on a few key points.  After the blow up between Scott, Jason, and Danielle calling Scott out for using ‘bullying’ like tactics to gain favor form America as a part of his strategy.  Scott saying he was going to terrorize Danielle.  The point Jason was trying to make was that attacking someone like that all the time isn’t a good look and not a good way to treat people in life.  You never know what someone has been through and what kid of damage you can really be doing.  That was the big picture point I took away of the point.  Danielle’s reaction and talking about being bullied her whole life and how she’s been treated by the Plastics+Scott is dredging up all those personal feelings for her (which we have seen since the beginning) was her unloading what she’s had building up.  Remember in this context of this game very often you can’t really say or do things in reaction because this is a game and doing so can hurt your game.  

 

Shane and Neely got their digs in on the way out the door.  They no longer had anything to lose their game was over, so now they can unload and get everything they wanted off their chest in 90 seconds in front of everyone all at once.  Right or wrong, that’s how I see that.  Same with Meech BB 18, she didn’t really call people out in major explosions until she really thought she was leaving and took the ‘sometimes you just gotta say WTF, and go balls out.’  Not saying it is a good or bad idea to do so, just saying this is my read on why it’s happening.  Misfits especially are playing the game but from their perspective every card is stacked against them and they are fighting a losing battle no matter which direction they try to play in their games.  They are not entirely wrong.  They also have 24 hours a day to sit and wonder why America hates them and why America loves (what I now refer to as America’s team) the Plastics+Scott.

 

Keep in mind they don’t see what we see.   They don’t know the fandom division happening outside the house which is just as great a division and battle outside as it is inside.  All they feel is it doesn’t matter what I do I can’t catch a break.

-First 3 weeks other side in power.

-Finally get power and their own team member goes home.

-Voting has been completely 1 sided the last two weeks which feel like a lifetime in that house.

However, they may be having meltdowns and blow ups which are side effects of their frustrations they are also like, well we are gonna have to play harder and better and keep trying to make things work in our favor. Not getting any kind of break the last 2 weeks has made them more focused on they own abilities in the house.  

 

Morgan and Whitney we did see some more active short term game play.  Good or bad it was game play.Week 4 strategy for them revolved around the fact they thought America was gonna side with them, but they talked about how they can try and make sure they get their way just in case America didn’t this point they have their owns fans to thank for that. Why work inside the house when you can just act a certain way and get others to do the work for you by soliciting America to play the game for them?  Of course, in their mind the best thing they have in the game is America loving their snarky and b*tchy personas causing lots on conflict in the house, That’s the strongest part of their games.  I really see them aware of this fact and actively basing the majority of their game play on, as a group and individually,  with the exception of Whitney.  What a surprise Whitney is at the bottom of the ratings for that fan base?  Whitney capitalizes on it for now, it is benefiting her in the moment but I also see her looking around, playing a great social game, building more and more trust with Justin and Kryssie.  

 

Lying is a part of the game, always has been.  However let us to forget it is only week 4 heading into the halfway mark.  While this game feels like it’s been going on a long time and there’s an epic battle brewing between fandoms as the weeks continue, lying so much tarnishes credibility and desires by other HG.  Whitney, however does take steps in advance of making a decision she feel sis in her best interest and knows that telling Kryssie in advance is in the best interest of her game.  Do you ever really want to volunteer to be a pawn?  No.  Was she at least looking at what was best for her game, trying to keep her word to everyone all at once by not being made to vote?  Yep!  I give her credit for knowing right now whether she wanted to keep the deal with Kryssie or not she saw the value in not setting that bridge ablaze and adopting Morgan’s attitude of oh well I don’t care I don’t need them anyway.  She’s staying loyal to her team for now, but they also see her as a threat and they should!  I see them thinking about it not he surface because they know Whitney is playing a far better social game and has other options unlike them.  That scares Alex the most.  Tells me Alex knows she should be dong the same but refuses to.  Good luck with that we will see how it works out. Something to keep an eye on.  

 

The heavy ‘America’ influence will continue a couple more weeks but the actions now as a result of the voting has created a situation where there is less and less potential for people on both sides to consider working with ‘America’s team’ members later in the game.  Blatantly lying about voting and breaking deals when there are so many people still in the house and so much game to be played won’t soon be forgotten by people who look around and think, ‘who can I potentially build something on the side or something new down the road with?’  The one side isn’t looking around much at all because they are just banking on America playing their games for them.  The other side is looking around like there’s less and less chance I want to work with those people at all so here’s what I need to do.  

 

Players like Jason and Justin are not trusting anyone over there but aren’t burning any bridges so if they need to use those people they have the connections to at least try and do that further along in the game.  Will they trust an Alex or a Scott?  Hell no, will they use an Alex or a Scott?  Any chance they get you better bet on that!  We also see this with Whitney and Justin. Last night (9:38 pm cam 4) there is a convo that happens with the two and it’s one you should watch if you haven’t already.  I know Justin has said to Jason he doesn’t trust Whitney.  I am undecided at this point if that’s really true and he’s smart enough to use his connection to her purely as an advantage.  Or if he’s smart enough to know he needs to build some other potentials to be able to jump ship with the Misfits foreseeing they could go down in the next two weeks.  I think this week will have a heavy influence on which road he takes with this but he has roads!  Smart game play on Justin’s part. I brought this up prior to eviction night as well based on a convo between the two before Whitney heads up and tells Kryssie to make her the pawn so she doesn’t have to vote. Justin make sit clear to Whitney she’s the only one on her team he trusts at all.  She confirms he and Kryssie are the only ones on his team she trusts at all.  Justin does make sure Whitney knows that Jason likes her.  She thinks he doesn’t and she doesn’t trust Jason.  Justin asks Whitney who she’s closest with of her people in the game and she says Alex.  That concerns me a great deal.  Of them all Alex is the last one she should trust.  Now that wasn’t the question, the question was who is she closest to?  That will be something I begin to really pay attention to.  I was surprised she didn’t say Morgan since those two spend the most time together. 

 

I was getting a little concerned that Whitney may not be seeing where she lands on the hierarchy of her team.  She’s chosen to stick with them for now, which for her is smart in the moment.  Is she really paying attention to all the little clues and breadcrumbs they are blatantly leaving for her to see they do not have her back at all?  She is the most expendable in their eyes?  They don’t treat her very well, they have tons of “team meetings” that she’s excluded from, they do not give her opinions or insights and real consideration.  Alex has said over and over that Whitney can go.  They shouldn’t tell her anything because she’s close with Justin.  Something to watch in Whitney’s game as this week plays out as well.  For a player I really had no motivation to watch the first two weeks she’s certainly peaked my interest the last two weeks and you should be watching her as well. 

 

Don’t be fooled.  The heavy America influence has had a huge impact on the game.  However, what goes around comes around.  So much equity has been spent on Alex and the Plastics so early in the game and they threw ACP’s to their strongest players VERY EARLY!  Yes, they still have a couple they could gift things to, but how much benefit that will be to Scott and Alex as the game progresses lessens by the day.  America’s team fandom isn’t as invested in Morgan or Shelby for that matter.  They like Shelby’s snarky attitude and DR’s but none really talk about her as a gamer.  Mark my word, the voting will shift soon!  There are 4 ACP’s left to be awarded and three Misfits (all the strongest players) who fans will want to protect.  Danielle may not be universally liked, and Jason may have annoyed a few people after the America’s nomination but there are short memories when it comes to fans.  There are plenty of fans on that side of the fence who do like Jason/Justin.  On the misfits side of the fence those really the only players we were ever holding out on to help when they needed it in the second half of the game knowing they were safe the first half.  Now, if we can help them with voting to get to the final 7 you will see some very aggressive game play on both their parts.  Danielle could quite frankly get there on her own by her own merits the way she’s navigated this game despite so many people disliking her personality she is one of, if not the best players in the house.  Love her or hate her despite everyone coming for her form day 1 she has managed to survive and the HN week and America’s nomination did exactly what I hoped, gave her a reality check and she took that as a chance to sit back and little and take a look at what she needs to do differently.  Now with this HOH we will see where she landed. May be the best thing that happened to her game.

 

When things happen this early on once and someone goes to another player  that had some kind of relationship or deal with and says, ‘hey, I know I said this but I had to go this way instead for my own game’ that goes a long way in keeping the future opportunities in working together open.  Lying and breaking deals over and over with the mindset my team is the only people I will ever need in this game, may be working in the short term, especially (since America is helping them so much now).  The long term game, this same approach could, and likely will, keep them from having longevity.  Not saying what they’re doing now isn’t working for them in the moment, but these same things will work against them as the game progresses and they really need a lifeline and no one else is even open to hearing anything they have to say. That first 15 minutes after the HOH was very telling if you look at the big picture.  When evaluating those aspects Whitney is really in the best long term position by her own merits in the game.  While she is benefiting from the voting right now and knows it she’s not building her entire game around it. We also see that Shelby is aware of it (the fact they are getting so much help externally) and has said it wont last forever, but don’t see her really doing anything to prepare for when the tides turn.  That being said having heard Shelby say it to her group more than once I will watch her more closely and see if she does actually begin to put anything in place to prepare for the winter when things get to a point where perhaps she cannot ride out with Team America any longer in the interest of her own game.  

 

As I resisted various moments the last 48 hours I fond this convo interesting.  Not from really a game or strategic perspective, more a foreshadowing moment and conversation that Jason should give some deeper consideration to upon reflection to maybe lead to an aha moment for his game.  I know if I were in the game this would actually make me go hmmmm?

 

BY Friday 1:45 am cam 3/4

Scott/Jason discussing BB History 

Scott shares that he began watching BB3 and he was in love with Danielle Reyes and Jason Guy and then Lisa wins and he’s like Danielle was robbed! 

 

Jason

Lisa played a better game than people say she does.

 

Scott 

Lisa is one of my favorite winners. Like Lisa did amazing.

 

-This is what caught my attention about this conversation.  Listen to Jason describe the two types of games.  My feeling, as I listened to this was Jason needs to stop and think about what he says right here. 

 

 

Jason

I love Daniele Reyes, and she definitely is a deserving winner but I’m not down when people shade the Lisa, I will shade Maggie before I shade Lisa.

 

Scott

Yes

 

Jason

Steve was a big Maggie supporter.  Maggie did play but I think Maggie did also have a lot of shields around her that helped her play. (Alex)  Where Lisa really groomed  and grew in the game and switched sides on her own demeanor and betrayed her own. (Are we foreshadowing Justin here?)  I definitely look at Lisa like she doesn’t get enough credit for sure. But in that moment, you are like this was wrong, this is terrible.

 

-I’m just referring to the context of this conversation not really comparing those two games to Maggie and Lisa just to what Jason actually describes here.  That’s what caught my attention as Jason was describing it.  My very first thought to “she had a lot shields and helping her play was well that’s Alex for sure.  The same with Justin reference, in that he came in knowing nothing and we’ve watched him evolve, learn along the way and there’s so much LF’s conversation about Justin playing both sides of the house.  Speculation if he’s betraying the misfits. People I think are waiting to see if he actually does.  At this point Justin has remained loyal to Jason above all things.  You know this because he doesn’t plan to do or actually do anything without conversing with Jason about it.  They are always working together but it is a very give and take alliance where one isn’t like NO you have to do this my way. 

 

Scott

Daniele was robbed! 

 

Jason

You’re still like this is terrible, Danielle played so much better when you’re watching it live.  Lisa did play a very good game.

 

Scott

Yeah and when you re-watch it multiples times like we have you can be like wait a minute Danielle and Lisa played like top 10 games, they both played like really well this season. (Ok, Scott maybe top 10 games for the first 3 seasons of Big Brother.  Maybe this is why you are so terrible at this game.) I think Daniele was a lot flashier.

 

J

And Lisa was able to do it almost in a way that still a lot of people are not able to do it. Kinda like with social, she’s like the original Jun, I’m gonna float this way now, I’m gonna float that way now. These people are the best one’s for me to roll with.  These people are the best one’s for me to roll with.  (That’s what people watching are seeing in Justin.) But also when it’s Marcellus time to go and Jason and Daniele were bamboozling him into not using the veto.  Lisa was still like, Marcellus is my friend, I’m gonna vote for him to stay. So she (Lisa) definitely had the strength to say I’m gonna make my own decisions but I’m also gonna know when is the right decisions.  (Now I wonder if Jason is planting a little seed here with Scott?)

 

Scott (smiling)

Yeah.

 

1:47 am cam 1/2 Justin/Kryssie/Danielle)

Kryssie gets called to the diary room

 

Justin says maybe it’s to talk about your experience

 

K

Oh about sending one of my friends home on my HOH?

 

Justin

Oh, Kryssie it’s not your fault.  Don’t beat yourself up.

 

K

I’m more worried about beating one of these other people up (laughing slightly).

 

D

I know I’m worried about that too. (Sympathetically)

 

J

When you want we can just go in the yard and scream.

 

K

Ok. That sounds like fun. 

 

 

Another conversation I mentioned in the last blog was the one with Morgan and Alex at 1:50 am cam 3/4 early Friday morning.  

 

We don’t get a lot of one on one game talk for any length of time with Morgan and Alex.  They are alone in the UKB and use this opportunity to discuss current events.

 

 

A

Do you think this is the week they will finally put up the Willet sisters?

 

M

Hell no.

 

A

We’ll see what we can do? I kinda talked to Justin a little bit.  I didn’t really say everything but…

 

M

He’s giving me nothing, he…

 

A

That’s why, before HOH (he was) we good?  We good? I said you got me if I got you right? He goes yeah. Then he walks away.

 

M

Yeah he came in here I was like I wonder what’s going to happen this week?  Like who are the targets gonna be? He says, well I’m just gonna tell you she’s gonna make it suspenseful.

 

-Justin has told Dani not to tell him what her plan is.  He doesn’t want to know. He knows Dani has questioned his loyalty and that he was being blamed for all the information leaking to the other side when in fact most of that was coming from Jason.  I blogged about this last week when Justin confronted Jason about him getting blamed.

 

M

I was like…He was like well ya’ll lied to Kryssie. I was like ok, well I mean if I am the target this week will you just let me know?  He was like, yeah.

 

A

You wont be. It will for sure be me.  I’m not an idiot.  I’ve hear multiple time from Justin and Jason. I think once from Jason that Danielle wants me out.  She was the one person that I did not want to win because Justin and Jason we have this thing…I don’t know how much they would stay true to it, but they always both come up to me and go ‘you got me if I got you right?’ If you win HOH don’t put me up and if I win HOH I wont put you up. So I know if Jason won, while I don’t necessarily trust him, I think I probably could have used that against him. I could have found a way with Jason to not put me up. Where with Danielle, I was the first person to put up her and she’s been holding that against me ever since. (Well, what did you expect? LOL)

 

-This is where Jason has outplayed her.  He has already told his people that Alex and Scott came to him or are believing on their own that they are ‘in an alliance’ with him.  Days ago in the BY Dani went on a mission to get Justin to understand why Scott would believe in his own little mind that Justin was in an alliance with him.  Justin played this off perfectly completely playing dumb and giving Danielle the floor to seem like she is the all knowing BB player.  

M

Right, you’re the reason Shane went home, which is stupid. 

 

A

During her and Scott’s fight yesterday she brought me up again.  She’s like well Alex is a smart girl. Like everyone thinks I’m like this secret genius.  It is weird. (No, they know you’re the head of the scale on that side but you’re the only one who thinks you are a secret genius.)

 

-When Alex made herself the leader of the pack she put herself in that role happily, but didn’t make any attempt the first couple weeks to hide that at all.  She’s hidden herself away from everyone else so even when she’s not the one doing the dirty work she gets blamed for it.  Alex does send everyone out to do the dirty work and thinks in her mind that keeps her from seeming like the one puppeteering things, and her read on how the house was viewing it has been far from the mark which is one thing I’ve emphasized over and over, by the time she did realize it and had done so little to prevent it form happening it was already a runaway train and she gets the ‘credit or blame’ for pretty much everything that side does. Not a good position to be in at all.  

She’s no Derrick.  Pulling strings and staying camouflaged for so long.  Add to that the America votes going her way since the end of week 2 and that only enlarges the target on her every time the vote heads their way.  Way to go Plastics’ fandom!  

 

M

Idk, I guess I’m back to my lay low scenario, which…

 

A

No, honestly for you this week, I’m not that worried about you, but I would hate for you to be like the back up option for her if her target doesn’t go home. It might behoove you to go up and talk to her, like wait until the CP

 

Right. Oh for sure.  I’m gonna go talk to her

 

A

But maybe make a deal like I will keep you safe if you keep me safe type thing.

 

-Right after she’s made a couple deals, broken them all? 

 

M

The only thing that sucks, anything I say people are gonna be like, well you lied to Kryssie. 

 

A

Yeah like, they’ve been doing that to me since week 2. It sucks, but in this scenario it worked out for your benefit because Neely went home.

 

M

It really did.

 

-Yeah in the moment but not really in the long term if you spent all of your equity on sending Neely home when you all were really willing to let Scott go.

 

A

I know that Neely was a close ally for you and it would have been more beneficial if it had been like a Kryssie instead of a Neely 

 

M

It does suck.

 

A

But at the same time, for me I’m super stoked,

 

M

It does suck, but at the same time that’s numbers for us, if he stayed he owes me, he;s gonna keep you around, he’s a big target, if he keeps you around you’re gonna have my back. 

 

A

Well, he keeps saying things like, ‘well even if I win veto I’ll use it on you instead of me.’ I’m like I don’t think you’re going to do that.  That’s 

 

M

I think he would.

 

A

You think he’d do that?

 

Morgan (nodding) 

He said I will do everything for Alex to win.  He’s like…

 

A

He needs to not be telling people that because that makes people want to target me even more. Also, that’s kinda weird, like thank you, if you wanna do that, thank you but I’m a little bit like

(she’s making creeped out faces and putting her hand up like stay away stalker which is what a lot of fans have discussed about Scott’s obsessions with Alex.) I don’t know how to react, I feel weird, I feel…

 

M

I was like all right!  It sucks, its like everyone has an ally on that side and mine was Neely and she went home.  There’s literally no point in me talking to Jason.

 

A

No I think Jason would be like, you can’t trust him, you can’t trust him

 

M

You can’t trust what he says 

 

A

He told Scott he feels like he can approach you with game talk, but he says it does feel like you’re closed off to it. 

 

_I had to laugh they say don’t trust what Jason says then says oh but he told Scott this so it must be true.  

 

M

That’s right. Justin…

 

A

Don’t trust Justin

 

I won’t trust Justin I am going to stay on Justin’s good side.  I am going to keep talking too him.  He’s gonna do whatever with Whitney, so him Kryssie can screw that one up I could care less about Kryssie the same as Danielle. 

 

A

I think Danielle might be your best.  Danielle doesn’t have any one she’s working with form our side and you may want to sneak in there again before Whitney or Shelby. 

 

M

That’s what I was thinking too.  Cause like out of everyone I’ve shown like, Whitney obviously, everyone likes Whitney…

 

A

She let it slip today too,  

 

M

She’s dangerous.

 

She let it slip out loud, which is very unlike Whitney, she let it slip out loud that like getting out of the deal with Kryssie because she volunteered to go up as a pawn. 

 

M

We’re not stupid.

 

W

She’s playing smart right now for sure. 

 

M

We’re not stupid.  At the same time, she’s smart but at the same time people are going to realize she can’t go to the end. 

 

A

Yeah, she’d win.  But I’d rather see her win than someone like Danielle

 

M

Right, of course I’d rather see her win, but I would rather see me WIN. 

Yeah, my thing, I would approach Jason

 

A

No, don’t approach Jason.  He’s working with Justin and Justin is getting information from Whitney.  I think your only untapped source is to use Danielle.

 

M

(Sighs annoyingly at the thought)

Which honestly out of all the girls she close with Kryssie, and now Kryssie is going to be like Morgan isn’t trustworthy but..

 

A

The thing is I tried to explain to Kryssie

 

M

It’s a frikin’ game!

 

A

It’s a game move

 

-So I am gonna leave this here and if you wanna go watch the rest of the conversations I highly recommend it.  They are brainstorming all the things they should be and they are hitting all the very walls I have been discussing for weeks.  Yeah great you want to make big moves, you don’t care what America thinks, it’s a game people lie and break deals all the time, you don’t like those people and have no desire to hang out with them great for you.  How’s that working out for you now?  All those game moves lands you in the very spots you’re in with limited options on where you can now navigate your games. So the ‘go to alternate’ is PLEASE AMERICA we’ve burnt every potential bridge, we don’t have power, we have no trust with anyone else in the house save us again!!!  Not a game I respect, not a game I had any desire to reward.  Most of the time not a game I can stand to watch.  Go back to the week 1 blogs when we began and I said that Alex has a great mind for the check boxed version of BB, make alliances, get out the showmance, create some shields, blah, blah, blah.  It’s not enough to know that you need to do those things its how you go about doing those things that really make you a player people want to watch and get behind.  

 

Well, it’s almost time to find out who is getting ACP this week. It’s come down to a horse race between Jason and Shelby.  Shelby for obvious reasons on that side of the house but Jason for more strategic reasons that really were lead by the majority of those fans feeling like Jason over Danielle was a better vote looking forward to the next couple weeks.  Can the misfits finally get an advantage in the game?  Are there enough LF’s who want to keep an even going back and forth from side to side not letting any one side steamroll the other?  Or are Plastics fans so obsessed with their Team America HBIC that they will spend the last little bit of equity they have on Shelby and try and force Kryssie out this week leaving the two sides down to 5 v 3 in the game?  Ironic how we all started out in agreement none of us want to see one team just railroad the other.  Most fans were hugely disappointed that CB wasn’t as entertaining as they had built him up to be in his mind and collectively sent him packing.  That decreased the size of this 8 person voting power no one wanted to see dominate the game.  Then week 2 everyone wanted Monte out because he was the WORSTE game player, insufferable to watch on the feeds and many of the things he was saying that were inflammatory were by way of association hurting the girls alliance.  That brought the two teams to a more equal balance.  Did that help keep the misfits from getting steam rolled? Yes.  Was the motivation really behind eliminating CB and Monte? No.  Then we all agreed Scott should get the ACP for the3 most part being how much our voting was really impacting the game play and while we were all prepared to waste the first couple CP’s on players like Kryssie and Scott the real goal for many was let the HOH have some power back this is way more than we really expected.  From there somewhere along the way it went off the rails and became a war between fans and had very little to do with actual game play and everything to do with the America’s Favorite HG mindset.  

 

The fans themselves are now responsible for creating that exact same steamroll scenario again and if we don’t take a step back and start looking at which players are playing the best and who do we want to keep to watch once the house gets much quieter around final 6 you are gonna end up with four girls who go to bed at 10 pm every night play middle school sleepover games and Kryssie and Danielle.  Not because of game play but because all that power has gone to your head and the entertainment of it all right now seems so appealing to you.  This game is like those chapter books when you were a kid where you came to the end of the chapter and could choose to take the story one way by turning to page 62 or another way by turning to page 92.  Every time having two choices which away the story would go.  This BBOTT has become that live book and we all get to choose which direction the story goes.  

 

 

 

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Aimee. - you are so insightful.    Thank you.   

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:wub:  Totally agree Fin. So who should be Our next nominee and do we feel safe enough to get rid of a Scott or a Justin? And if so what would make for an interesting week but not pump up Dani to the point of hatred to her character? And are we trying to set up more girls in general, or what?

 

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Happy Saturday LF's! Been a crazy busy day for me but didn't want to miss a day. Tomorrow I will cover a lot! I've been noting tons here and there but here's just a quick summary to satisfy you until I can do a complete rundown of 48 hours tomorrow.

 

After ACP was awarded to Shelby yesterday, BOO! The Plastics went crazy knowing America is doing all the work for them. They've talked about refusing to even bother talking to Dani. While the misfits had a hard blow from this feeling their worst fears were confirmed, "America hates us." They poured briefly but Justin gave the whole squad a pep talk! 1:15 pm

 

Within an hour they quickly ended the pity party and went back to what makes them the better players in the game! They actually rely on playing the game. Dani admitted she plans to nominate two low hanging fruit from the Plastics' tree (Shelby/Morgan) before the ACP was revealed and not target Alex or Scott out the gate. She's known since she won HOH she will need to win veto to make sure America's Nom (predicting likely a misfit) and force not only the Plastics but Amerixa to vote out a member of the 'dream team'. She told Jason she had hoped if she got a chance through Veto to take a shot at Alex she would but was satisfied if she could just take out one of the four girls since they are the tightest group of the 5. 

 

Today, HN's were revealed and again LNC fans lost the war. Kryssie, Whitney, and Justin were the HN's for the week. If you didn't watch the reveal go back its funny because all the Plastics, Scott, and Jason ran around screaming and celebrating like Justin has week after to week to give me a comic relief for his misery. 1:03 pm

 

3:45 pm BY Hammock

Scott/Alex were joined by Shelby. 

 

Scott to Shelby

The only way I would vote you out is if you and Alex were the 2 OTB together. 

 

Shelby 
Well I know to cancel your vote if that happens. 

 

Since this happened Shelby has been planting seeds about Scott within the Plastics accepting the harsh reality that Scott will always choose Alex over her and that's a problem. 

 

Two good LNC strategic convo's you should watch if you haven't: 

10/28 2:30 pm cam 3/4 
Dani/Jason BY hammock 

They discuss Dani's plan to nominate Shelby/Morgan. She knows she has a better chance to make some deals with Alex/Scott by not targeting them. She also knows if she did their backups will fight to the death to save them where A/S are far more likely to be persuaded to let Dani pick off one from their side that they would have to target eventually anyways and this way they don't get any blood on their hands. 

 

Jason/Justin 5:18 pm BY today 

Dani wants to Nom low hanging fruit on Plastics side. The two discuss Dani's strategy and J/J using this as leverage with S/A selling they are doing what they can to keep them safe. 

 

Jason/Justin also discussing same strategy Jason had come up with, keep Scott/Alex aligned with them potentially. That way in case Jason is AN, likely Shelby would cancel one of the weaker of that sides votes banking on the fact Shelby/Alex/Scott more of a trio makes Shelby less likely to cancel Scott/Alex votes come eviction night. 

 

Lots more going on in the house but I haven't had enough time today to dedicate to being thorough so that will have to wait until tomorrow. 

 

The Plastics have had several convos, although they have ACP and in their guts expect America to nominate a misfit there's no guarantee and you keep hearing them all say they are worried this week! Finally! 

 

Took all of less than 30 min after the HN reveal for Scott to scamper up to the HOH and have a one on one with Dani. This gained attention from the Plastics since he's been saying for days he won't even bother talking to her and expects to be her target. 

 

Eventually one one by one they all tucked their tails between their legs and made the dreaded trip upstairs which I will also cover in greater detail tomorrow. 

 

Finally, it's not official yet, we still have a little less than 24 hours before America's nominee voting begins but...Scott is leading the polls not only on LNC fan sites but on many Plastic fans sites as well! Don't jump the gun yet 24 hours is a long time in the BBOTT house and on SM, but it is looking like for the first time in weeks Plastocs fans are splitting their votes! While some want Kryssie to be the AN, there are a lot of others worried Scott will break up the Plastics and take Alex with him over to Justin/Jason so they are coming out in droves in support of nominating Scott and getting him out this week! 

 

LNC fans polls are very heavily leaning towards Scott as well. Tomorrow night once Dani's final safety ceremony is over I will put my official stamp on which Nom each fan base seems to be leaning towards but as of Saturday evening BB time this is what things look like or now! LNC fans are chomping at the bit! Hopeful to finally get a nominee they want on the block, prevent another misfit from going home and finally shift the momentum. 

 

Dani has played this HOH very well. Kept her plans to herself before ACP announced. Had various scenarios in mind but never planned to Nom Scott or Alex. I do think putting Shelby OTB now that she has ACP is better idea. She will have to use votes to protect herself first and foremost. Shelby hasn't done well in most the comps. Always landing in the middle except really last HOH where Scott, Alex, and Shelby all eliminated on first question. Plus the misfits are beginning to use the voting pattern in their strategy. There's been discussion that getting Morgan out would be advantageous since there are only 3 ACP's left this season. The Plastics only have 2 eligible players left to receive them so if one happens to go home this week (best case scenario) not only are the girls broken up from being a strong foursome but that also leaves only Whitney eligible to get 1/3 last ACP's and America will have to give 2/3 to misfits! 

 

I don't care which side of the fandom you fall. Who you like or dislike. Danielle has been a great HOH surprising many and her ability to read and play this game is worthy of some respect! Jason and Justin have been working hard and making plans, drawing Alex/Scott back in just in case AN happens to be one of them (Jason is certain he's going to be the America Nom). They may not be getting any love from the voters dominating and handing the Plastics the easiest path in BB history but misfits aren't taking it lying down and are playing this game HARD this week! Jason will be out of cigarettes this weekend and BB will provide him with nicotine patches. Thank goodness he didn't run out on a week where he was a HN too that would have been cruel and unusual punishment but...buckle up because he's gonna get REAL very quickly without his smokes. 

 

Tonight's safety ceremony: 

Kryssie, Justin, and Jason are safe! Good girl Dani make those girls sweat another 24 hours they've been doing it to you all season long. 

 

One last note. Justin has said he won't be cooking for those girls this week. He has to taste as he cooks and is a HN so they are on their own.  At least he's keeping us laughing as he deals with not eating and told Whitney its ok they will get through this week together. He also said this is the best week, if he has to be a HN at least they get to eat for an hour on Halloween for the party and that will help all the HN's get through the week! 

 

So  there you are. Some key moments in this quick post. I will have a long one tomorrow to catch you up on everything! Then I will post at least one more tomorrow after 7pm BB time when the final safety ceremony is complete to report the official nominees for both sides of the house in the America's nominee that begins 8pm Pst/11 pm Est. 

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From the Bottom to the Top!  

 

Here is a recap of both Friday following the ACP reveal through early this morning!  It's a very long post with lots of transcript, and analysis but that's because I didn't have enough time to do a full post yesterday.  Tonight is the final safety ceremony and once nominees are locked in place looks like most of BBOTT fandom on both sides is ready to Nominate Scott!  Misfits went from being down in the dumps thinking what's the point, America hates them to climbing back on top one small step at a time and they don't even know it yet!  Plastics have begun to worry Scott will break up the all girls alliance so the majority on both sides of the house finally agree for the first time since we sent Monte packing!  

 

Friday 10/28 Post ACP reveal-Shelby received ACP allowing her to eliminate three votes this week on eviction night. 

 

It takes about an hour for the Misfits to get their minds right after Shelby receives the ACP.  Justin of course, like the others has now concluded without hesitation that America hates them all.  He doesn’t dwell on it and gives his team a pep talk.  He is genuinely the most humble player in the game and really tries to keep the others thinking positive.  It worked Justin just kept telling them they have to have faith, stay positive, realize that it’s not over and they have to keep pushing and playing the game.  I think they would have gotten there, but it may have taken a little longer without his pep talk.  Jason feels certain he will be America’s nominee this week.  He was next on the HN list, voting has gone the Plastics way week after week and despite them finally changing the tide of HOH power the last two weeks they still can’t catch a break. We all saw Jason the last 48 hours so certain he was going to be AN tomorrow. 

 

By 2pm most of the misfits have decided they aren’t going to let this discourage them and they are focused on the veto again, which they have all discussed sine pretty much the moment Danielle won HOH.  Dani had said within 15 minutes of winning HOH she has to win veto because if America’s nom is a misfit it’s the only way she can make sure one of them goes home.  Then they will have to decide together which one of their group has to leave just like the misfits did the week there were three of them on the block, Danielle, Shane, Kryssie and Shane went home. Danielle has had her head in the game all but one hour after the ACP was announced.  Quite frankly who can blame them?  

 

The Plastics, with the ACP win have only gotten more confident and no one really cares to bother to talk to Danielle.   They will of course, but meanwhile I am enduring a lot of attitude and comments insinuating they don’t need to bother.  Or when they talk about actually taking the dreaded walk upstairs they are describing themselves basically being b*tchy and self righteous in what they tell their fellow Plastics what they will say to her which alludes to the fact they feel like they have all the power, don’t need to even have a one on one strategic talk to help secure their own safety from the block and the chances that they need to be worried are virtually non existent.  This is based on all the little snide and antagonistic comments they've made the last two days which got worse and greater in numbers after Shelby got the ACP. 

 

The pendulum has swung completely in the opposite direction from last week when Kryssie was HOH in the approach to managing the HOH.  Last week I felt like they all went up there and talked game and nominations, deals, etc… way too early.  Making an appearance prior to ACP and HN reveals was certainly from a strategic perspective isn’t a terrible game move in itself.  It wasn’t actually the going up before HN’s, or AN were revealed it was spilling their guts, proposing deals, and talking about things as if they are already in a certain position before they had all the voting results.   That was premature in my opinion last week and ended up forcing them to have to return at least 3 times to have multiple discussions and revealing more than they needed to initially and then kicking themselves for saying something had they known that Alex was safe she would have not said some of the things she said.  Whereas this week they immediately decided to wait until after the ACP reveal. Which was a smarter idea, some of that I am sure came form the fact they hadn’t been in the position since they had the HOH power on their side of the house for the first 3 weeks.  Which I felt like was smarter.  Now they are all giving off the impression to the other side of the house that they don’t need to bother acknowledging Dani has HOH.  We hear a lot of their group and side chats among each other as Dani being irrelevant in their games this week now that Shelby has ACP.  It’s always one extreme or the other with this group of players.  

 

10/28 1:18 pm Plastics+Scott TKB

The group is running the various scenarios whether America Nom is one of them or one of the Plastics how this eliminating three votes works to their advantage.  Even worse case if in fact one of the Misfits is AN and wins veto leaving only two of their own team OTB they decide who goes home.  Best case misfit is AN, doesn’t win veto and they get to vote one of them out. 

 

Alex

God, if America just nominates one of them and we…

 

Morgan

Kryssie

 

 

Alex 

Any of them 

 

Shelby

I feel like they may still put me up though just to f*ck with me, surprise Shelby!

 

Alex

God America controls this again, great.

 

Scott (sounding giddy)

We’re just the SIMS.  We’re just the SIMS living our lives, they’re the ones really playing the game. 

 

Morgan

Another thing is we need as many of us as possible to be playing in veto.  If two of them gets pulled and a Kryssie is up they win and just pull her down anyway.  

 

Whitney

If Kryssie is up there we need her to stay up there

 

Morgan

Then it doesn’t matter which two of us votes she goes home

 

Alex

Basically (smiling confidently) we need America

 

Morgan

Help us out

 

Alex

Help us out.  Come on America.  God, if Kryssie went home on Danielle’s HOH. (Pounding her hand into her fist) America could F w/Danielle’s entire HOH. COME ON America!

 

Morgan

Also, that would send them scrambling

 

 

Alex

Well it sends such a strong message

 

Scott

They’d go into f’ing scramble mode so hard

 

Alex

Then next week would be so interesting they would literally disintegrate and have to come to us

 

Scott

They would have no choice

 

Whitney

Ands they always thought it would be the other way around

 

-This next comment should give pause to Whitney (Shelby was called to DR a minute ago).

 

Alex

If that happens and they disintegrate that would move this game into the next phase, new chapter.  That’s gonna be nuts.

 

-Now in this house the smallest comments can be taken and some very valuable information can be found or some random comment really meaning nothing on the surface and completely change how someone else perceives you.  That’s true of any BB season. We all remember Nicole’s reaction to James in the KIT arguing with Paul and saying Natalie wanted to keep Victor.  This happens quite a few times in the complacency resulting from the voting going so heavily in their favor.  Comments made especially by Scott and Alex make today and tomorrow begin to make the other lower tree branches of this group start to really come to terms with the fact they are not in as good of a position as they need to be as this game does push on.  

 

If the vote wasn’t going this so Plastic’s heavy I don’t necessarily think these kind of little mistakes would be happening because to the degree it is this week because they wouldn't be so overconfident. Alex is literally telling Morgan and Whitney if another misfit goes home we are all going to be looking at new chances to make alliances in our best interest and giving off the feeling although Alex is a big target she’s feeling like this is great for her game.  While Whitney has, what appear to be, better connections not he other side of the house which every knows about Alex is hinting that she does as well and their wasn’t such blatant assumptions that was the case.  Scott does the same type of thing in front of Shelby tomorrow (Saturday) which you will see in a convo that he does in fact realize almost as soon as he says it that it spooks Shelby and she does in fact begin to take action against it.

 

Alex goes on this convo to keep talking about how if Kryssie does go home it’s a completely different version of the game, it’s gonna shake it up.  

 

Um, Alex when you’re sitting with someone like Whitney who has made decisions the last two weeks to make sure to side with you guys and you are now telling her hey, this gives ME some other options next week and it’s not going to just continue to be us against them until they are gone.  Whether thats true or not she should not be saying this in front of Whitney!  Alex may have a duet with here sister, a duet with Scott and in all honesty some form of a trio with Shelby the only connection she has to Whitney is the Plastics collectively two to sit there and say wow next week we can all have new ways to go isn’t that great  is a huge tactical error.  Enough of that, let’s keep moving on because this is still Friday information and a whole lot happens on Saturday!  

 

1:21 pm BY Misfits

 

Jason

Why did I agree to come back again?

 

Justin

Positive vibes man!  

 

Jason 

Oh trust me it’s not over till it’s over. 

 

Justin

America’s nom is tomorrow right?

 

-I love Justin!  LOL. It’s week 5 and he still doesn’t have the routine down but despite that you can see how much he’s strengthened in his game play.

 

Kryssie and Jason both correct him.  Tomorrow is HN, Danielle still has to do her safety ceremonies and America’s nom isn’t until Monday.

 

Justin

Oh that’s tomorrow and Sunday.  We have live DR’s tonight. 

 

Jason

If America wants it to be that simple where those 5 people are just chillin’ at the end then that’s fine.  If that’s the season they want to watch?

 

Justin

But that’s so boring.

 

Jason

I know but maybe that’s the season they want.  Maybe they hate us that much that, that’s what they want. I’m not gonna do PR like Scott does and try to convince people I’m a good person.  If they don’t wanna see it or know that we are good people, then that’s fine.

 

Dani and Kryssie are just sitting there quietly in shock.

 

-They are still reeling from a shocking result even though a huge part of them were prepared for it.  Jason especially is feeling like America really must hate them all!  Why else would they vote one sided two weeks in a row of misfits finally getting HOH power and still targeting the misfits?  You can’t really blame them, it’s exactly how it looks from where they are sitting.  Just know they recover forms his petty party within 60 minutes and come out swinging! Don’t worry though, I have been trying to reassure Misfit fans the last two weeks that all this ‘casual’ voting based on a popularity contest on people and not players will eventually come back to bite them in the butt.  This week we really begin to see sure signs not only in the house but in the voting war.  What goes up must come down.  

 

Justin

I really wanna see the episodes, yo. (lauging). I would like to see how they portray us in the episodes. 

 

 

 

Jason

Probably like terrible petty people that just talk sh*t and they’re just gonna show them having such a wonderful time. (After a silent pause) Maybe no one is even watching anymore except these people’s family.

 

Justin cracks up

 

Jason

You know what I’m saying? Maybe people were like this sucks and the BB real fans fell off of it and it’s just Shelby’s mom. 

 

That makes Danielle crack a small smile and Justin crack up again.

 

Justin

No man

 

Danielle stands up without saying anything and leaves, follow day Kryssie saying she’s gonna grab some water and go inside.

 

Kryssie 

We just gotta do what we can to protect each other cause we are literally all we’ve got now.

 

Jason 

We are literally all we’ve got.

 

-I don’t care which side of the fandom you are on.  Watching the evolution of a player who knew nothing coming into the game is such an amazing journey to watch unfold.  I love watching Justin learning the game, learning and developing his own strategy, and watching him maneuver things all the time!   

 

 

10/28 2:09 pm (cam 1/2)

BY lounge chair Shelby, Whitney, Morgan discussing if they are going to talk to Danielle at all.  Shelby says she’s going to have to go talk to her since she got the ACP and Morgan asks what she thinks Danielle is going to try and negotiate.

 

Shelby says she’s gonna do her and her stuff because her talk with Dani will likely be used on the episode.

 

Morgan

What do you think she’s going to present you with? I think there’s very few options.

Shelby

I think if she does the threat thing I’m gonna be like really you're gonna threaten me?  That’s the stupidest tactic I’ve ever heard, I’m going to go downstairs and give you some more time to think of a better game plan.

 

Morgan

Right.  I think she’s smarter than that.

 

Shelby

Idk, I think that is their best game plan but that’s just how I’m gonna respond to it if she says that to me. 

 

After a few moments of silence and really know reaction:

Whitney

And that will definitely make the episode.

 

Morgan

I’m gonna go give you 5 minutes to reevaluate…

 

Whitney

I don’t know what really she’s gonna try to say.  I just try to think, if I was her?

 

Shelby

I think I ‘m going to have to go up there a lot because we’re both gonna try to say some things.  Both try to give each other zero information. 

 

Morgan

I’m just very curious if she’s gonna like tell you who she’s trying to get out this week. 

 

Shelby

She will probably ask me who on my side of the house I would be ok with going? 

 

Alex joins

 

Shelby

I’m just gonna be like no one. Put up one of your people.  

 

Danielle told Jason she’s done feeling defeated.  She’s got her head right and going to play this game.  She then tells him she’s gonna put on her bathing suit and walk around showing off her perfect body.  Jason replied so you play that petty betty girl.

 

2:11pm (cam 1/2)

Danielle enters the BY and heads to the pool to tan and all 4 Plastics look at her.

Morgan says about Danielle

That bathing suit is really cute.  

 

Shelby 

That suit is really cute.

 

-Just wait until Sunday rolls around the go back to talking about why Shane would ever pick Danielle over any of them.  It’s week 5 and they are still stuck on their week 1 personal jealousy of Danielle.  IMO these girls are the real Petty Betty’s of the house and Danielle will always be prettier, smarter (in many ways), and a better gamer than any of them.  They need to just suck it up and deal with it and focus on the game and not their personal jealousy of Dani it’s clouding their games. 

 

Alex

It got super hot.  Has anyone gone in the pool (as Dani enters the pool)?

 

Other three simultaneously mumble nah uh.  Shelby and Whitney discuss the pool and Shelby comments:

I never go in a pool that isn’t at least 80 degrees.

Then asks Danielle, how cold is that pool?

 

Danielle is floating on one of the pool logs. 

It’s not cold at all.

 

Alex leaves to get her sunglasses.  Morgan and Whitney ask her to get theirs too.

 

Meanwhile we see Jason/BA, Justin wanders from BA to KIT

UKB 2:10 pm cam 3/4 

Alex passes through and Justin says

What up girl

 

No reply as she heads into the BY

Since the ACP delivery the Plastics have pretty much decided they don’t have any reason to talk to the other side.  

 

Justin pours coffee.  You can hear Dani exit HOH room off camera

Justin says

There she go, creature of havoc

 

Danielle can be heard giggling to the comment

 

Danielle grabs a towel form BA where Jason is and heads out to BY.  Justin heads to BR 

Shouts out to camera

What’s up New Orleans, LA baby, all the positive people out there. ya’ll keep on remaining positive (enters UKB where Kryssie is lying down).

 

Justin

How you doin’?  You alright? 

 

Kryssie (is having really bad cramps)

You know.  I’m physically f*cked, I’m emotionally ok. The first like 12 hours are the worst, so once this passes I will be alright. 

 

Justin

Well, I pray for you.  I hope you're gonna be ok.

 

Kryssie

Thank you.  I appreciate it, I appreciate the positive energy and all that.

 

Justin (folding clothes)

It’s all good, positive vibes.  Only way to thrive.

 

Kryssie

Doing my best.  Trying my best to trust the process here and maybe they’re seeing something we’re all not seeing.

 

Justin 

Yep.

 

Kryssie

I wonder if America did give it to her just to make them all finally chose between each other? What of they plan on nominating one of them?  What if they plan on nominating her? 

 

Justin

Right?  It’s gonna be interesting to see yo. I don’t know.  I have hella faith.

 

Kryssie

I do to.  It’s gonna make me try that much harder to win the veto.  I’m just like praying that my hands are better by Monday. 

 

Justin

You’re gonna be alright mama. You been putting Neosporin on it?  

 

Kryssie explains she’s been tending to them, it’s just that the cuts are in the middle of her palm so whenever she grips anything, or opens her hands all the way it keep ripping the cuts back open again.  Then she asks about the time.

 

Justin

Idk. However I got a fresh brew of coffee.  I couldn’t really drink the coffee earlier that Morgan made cause she doesn’t know how to make coffee. 

 

2:13 pm Cam change to TKB where Jason is putting on his shoes and getting dressed for the day. Alex enters from BY to gather the sunglasses and finds Jason alone. Asks Jason if anyone is in the UKB.  Jason whispers he thinks Kryssie is in there cause she was laying down somewhere. She sits on the bed next to Jason.

 

Alex

Ok, I told Justin that I still want to work with him.  Idk what your relationship with Scott is like? 

 

Justin

He was basically like F.U. cause I didn’t take him deal last week. 

 

Alex

I had figured that ya’ll had like split away, so I didn’t know what it’s like between ya’ll.

 

Jason

You’re still fine with me. 

 

 

Alex

I haven't told anyone that I’ve been like talking to you, but for me the way I see it is if like you or Justin get HOH you… or if like I get HOH I wouldn’t target ya’ll. I would just expect the same of ya’ll. 

 

-That’s not true.  She has told Morgan about this and how she’s trying to keep Jason believing they have a deal.  10/27 1:55 am cam 3/4

 

Jason 

That’s where I’m at with it. I went up to Scott and said I assume thinks are different now?  He was like yeah, basically like yeah I don’t want to work with you anymore.  I was like ok that’s fine. But, uh, like you’re still find with me. 

 

Alex

Yeah I know. Ya’ll are not anywhere near being my target.

 

Jason 

Ok 

 

A

I feel like now it’s good now we’re all together because we’re all big targets.

So as long as we’re all in the house, kinda protecting each other

 

J

Yeah, exactly. Cause I’m like, especially this week it’s gonna be interesting.

 

A

I’m like Idk what to think about the CP.

 

J

Idk what to think about it either but I just know that I may be America’s nom, so I may be up there. 

 

A

I could be AN too.  We don’t know. 

 

J

I have no idea.  We’ll just have to wait and see.

 

A

I just know that if like you go up there I will campaign for you not to go home.  And if you can protect me with Danielle as much as you can…

 

J

Oh, she’s not coming for you. 

 

A

I mean, I’ve heard, I feel like I would be her #1 target. 

 

J

Let me get back to you on that.

 

A

Ok. 

 

J

But where she was saying, it didn’t sound like that. 

 

A

Just know if you can keep me off the block, I have your back. 

 

J

Ok. 

 

A

You know what I’m saying?

 

J

I know you’re kinda steering the ship over there. 

 

A

That’s what some people think.

 

J

Well it kinda looks like that. But, girl I ain’t got no problem with that. I ain’t going after the captain. 

 

Both

LOL

J

I’m gonna do what I can do.  We’ll see how this week plays out. You’re as fine with me even without the Scott which is kinda off now, which is fine.

 

A

You protect me.  I protect you, I got you. 

 

Ok

 

They shake hands and head off.

 

Right as Jason grabs his jacket to go smoke Justin exits the UKB and follows him down the hallway. Alex looks for sunglasses in the TKB.

 

2:17pm

cam 1/2 BY Shelby has decided it’s too hot and she’s going in just as Alex returns with sunglasses. FYI Scott has been walking laps in BY this whole time never far form Alex as usual. 

 

cam 3/4 Justin returns to UKB with his coffee. He is wandering just moving from room to room busying himself. 

 

Game talk resumes between Alex, Morgan, Whitney

 

M

I think she’s gonna put Shelby up, to guarantee that she has some leverage over Shelby. 

-This is one of the first things I thought when the ACP was announced.  Shelby needs to see the block that way she has to use the votes in some way to protect herself first and foremost.  

 

W

I do too.

 

A

Well as long as AN is someone that’s not one of us and as long as they don’t win veto. That’s just a lot of ‘what if’s’. 

 

You can hear Scott and Jason chatting about random chit chat by the couches off camera.

Whitney

I’m still really, really, worried about this week.

 

M/A

Me too.

 

M

There’s a possibility it could go in our favor. There’s a possibility it could go in a 1000 other…

 

A

Yeah I’m really worried.

 

M

It sucks we have to wait until Monday to see AN

 

Friday   BY cam 3/4

8:08pm Danielle/Kryssie/Justin.

Danielle and Jason have realized that the elimination of votes in this ACP going to them didn’t make any sense.  They are in HOH power this week.  What would be the point, they had the votes, so they would be eliminating the Plastics votes and that didn’t make any sense for America to give it to them.  

 

Jason has also been determined to try and access the Paris room since last week so discussion of the Pandora’s Box where Dani had a dream she got to choose one player to come back into the game.  

 

Friday evening right after Alex’s DR 

8:50 pm  HNB cam 1/2

Alex/Scott

 

Alex tells Scott:  Jason basically told me that he can convince Danielle to keep you and I off the block this week if we keep him safe and don’t touch him next week. 

 

Scott 

He told me if he convinced Danielle to not put us up, then if he is on the block as America’s nominee that we go after one of our own people. 

 

Alex 

If you don’t put me on the block.  We can work with that deal. We can work with that deal! 

 

Scott 

Exactly. I don’t even think he is going to be America’s nominee. 

 

 

Alex 

How is he going to keep Danielle from nominating us? 

 

Scott 

Because the strategy is that Danielle is going to nominate the two weakest competitors. Nominating us would be the high risk, high reward strategy. If they win the veto, then one of us is going home. 

 

Alex

If we win the veto they are completely screwed. 

 

Scott 

They’re scared of us because we’re competitors. HOLLA POWER COUPLE! They want to nominate weak competitors so they can win the veto and take off the third nominee.

So that Shelby’s care package doesn’t mean anything. 

 

Alex

Who would they put up? Whitney & Shelby? 

 

Scott 

That’s what I would assume. 

 

Alex 

I still don’t believe Danielle won’t nominate us. Its too good to be true. 

 

Scott

They have to prove it be for we do. I don’t think Danielle even knows about this. 

 

Scott is basically saying we get everything out of this and then we don’t even have to keep our word if we don’t want to.  Same old, same old, with these two.

 

Alex

America PLEASE make Kryssie your nominee!  

Jason must be scared he’s gonna be it this week.

 

Scott 

Jason got so scared after Julie asked him what AN surprised you the most.  That shook Jason. I think that’s silly, but if it gives us this beautiful deal I’m not going to complain.

 

Alex is of course saying she doesn’t really wan tot go talk to Danielle, but she knows she needs to now.  She needs to save face with her, but she will protect Jason, she doesn’t want to have to say she will protect Dani too because she still wants her out.   Danielle is getting nothing out of it and Jason is getting everything out of it.

Scott says he doesn’t think Danielle knows anything about this deal.  In fact he suspects Dani had already decided to take this route and maybe Jason is just using it to hustle a side deal out of knowing Dani wasn’t going to target them anyway.

Alex does say she thinks Jason is being brilliant with this.  

-Nice to see her actually give him some credit.  

 

-This is both true and untrue.  Jason has been co-signing and encouraging this approach to nominations.  Dani had already in her mind planned on doing the noms this way (targeting the low hanging fruit) and didn’t share it with Jason until after the ACP was announced but both were really thinking the same thing on their own, he has been encouraging this plan and he is revisiting the Scott/Alex side alliance thing that started a couple weeks ago when Scott was HOH to try his best to keep them form voting him out because he’s so worried about being the AN.

 

Justin joins them. He tells them he doesn’t think they’re going up. Scott and Alex still haven’t spoken to Alex/Scott yet and say they should still go talk to Danielle after the HN’s announced.  

 

Justin

I am trying to keep the heat off ya’ll.  

-This was actually get timing on Justin’s part since they were both sitting there discussing the fact Jason has told them the same thing. He doesn’t tell them who she’s putting up, just that they are not the targets. 

 

Justin leaves the room and once again Alex begging for America to put Kryssie up.  She says, as expected, if Kryssie isn’t the nom they are better off voting Whitney out and not Morgan.  

 

Alex

I can see Whitney more at winning this game than Morgan.  

 

-Well of course you are going to protect Morgan, she’s a plus for your game for now.  Although, Whitney is playing a better game than most of the girls in that she has some protection on both sides of the house.  I’ve mentioned before I wish I could definitively tell if Whitney is being too blindly loyal to the Plastics or just setting herself well to jump ship when it’s time.  There are things she gets form the other sI see her run right back to the Plastics. I also see her not run some things back to them this week.  I hear comments Alex and the others are making that if I were Whitney would let me know exactly where I am sitting in that group.

 

Whitney chose to side with the Plastics last week.  She also did it in a way that didn’t make her break her word to Kryssie.  I was very confident she wouldn’t break her word to Kryssie but there is such a huge part of me looking at Whitney’s game that thinks last wee was actually the best week for her to go ahead and play her own game and quit feeling like she’s safer riding things out on her side.  I guess we will all just have to keep watching.  I am a bit worried about Whitney this week.  

 

If she doesn’t go OTB she’s in a better proton to some degree.  However, Dani has been very savvy in out thinking the voting and since it’s less likely she can take a shot at Alex if all the cards fall correctly for her to do so, the  ACP makes that much harder to do with the other 3’s undying loyalty to Alex.  If Whitney can stay off the block this week that will be huge for her.  If she finds her way up there as a replacement nominee then she will be the one that goes home.  Again a victim of America’s voting and not to be credited with the Plastics. With Scott likely to be the America’s Nominee that adds a whole other layer of mess that voting is contributing to interfering with the integrity of actual game play by the players in the house.  Yes, it’s looking very likely Scott may actually end up being the AN this week, being voted by misfit fans as well as a section of Plastic fans.  We will get to that at the end of this blog. 

 

 

 

 

Friday 10:15p-12a 

In the HOH room Justin, Kryssie, Scott and Danielle are chatting. 

 

Jason 

They’re being nice today.. but they got a care package today.

 

Alex the last couple days keeps bringing up she doesn’t know why people think she’s this huge threat.  She also tries to sell LF’s she didn’t approve of Scott’s terrorizing of Dani.  She knows Julie brought it up again inter live post eviction interviews and that purely damage control on some level.  Although she really lacks self awareness in this game. 

 

-Alex encourages things like this.  So does America’s voting by Plastics fans for that matter.  She’s been gas lighting other people to do things all season and then she just sits back and watches it happen believing that all the attention will go onto the person actually doing it and not effect her game.  Partially because she likes to put others in the line of fire to try and deflect some attention away form herself and then more recently working on the assumption that America likes that they are doing these things which is what they keep getting the votes to go their way. 

 

Problem with that is she’s known for weeks that people are blaming her, or associating her with it and although she usually has a brief moment like this, or when Shelby week 3 getting so much negative attention she decided ‘ph I am going distance myself form her’ but she never does.  She encourages the entire antagonistic approach, gets entrainment from it but feels like she wont get any of the blame.  Then she wonders why people think she’s such a big threat?  Because they all know you are co-signing this mess and none of those girls or Scott make a move without running is by you first! 

 

 

Back to the most recent events in the house over the weekend!  

Saturday 10/29

 

2:22 pm Scott enters house as Justin enters BY. Polite exchange as they pass each other. cam 3/4 follows Scott inside heads to HN room to follow his chat with cameras running voting scenarios, nominees, his chances.

 

Scott

Shelby has the votes to cancel so if I’m on the block against anyone but Alex or Shelby I should be ok for the week. 

 

2:30 pm BY cam 3/4

Dani hammock alone

 

Let’s make this a game worth watching.  Let’s make this a game worth playing. Don’t make it so easy for them to just push us out of the house.

Let us make it interesting for you America. Let’s make sure you get your 5.99 month.

 

Jason joins her near the hammock. Dani telling Jason she’s been talking to herself holding the mic because she was on her stomach but wanted them all to see that she was talking to herself alone over here. General chit chat for a minute turns into game talk.

 

Jason

I was trying to figure out how we can turn it into a positive.

Dani

Well, when I was in the place no words, I got very upset.

 

Camera cuts away to Alex and Justin shooting pool.  Off camera you can hear Shelby and Whitney discussing that Dani has been over there talking to herself. 

 

Whitney

I’m still scared sh*tless for this week.

 

Shelby

Me too. 

 

-Really production?  The minute Jason and Dani start to talk game you leave us with all 4 cameras on Alex and Justin shooting pool talking about nothing.  Not even on Whitney and Shelby who are talking crap about Dani and being worried about the game this week.  Yeah you’re not playing favorites at all are you?  Smh

 

cam 3/4 finally back to Dani/Jason

Dani’s plan she shared (after the ACP) was that she had planned to put   Shelby and Morgan OTB. She wanted to break up the 4 girls not target Scott.  

 

-This is actually a smart move for her.  Diffuses the Scott/Dani drama rather than it seeming like tit for tat and the idea being to break up four girls they KNOW would be willing to lose Scott but those four will stick to together for now.  So, let’s break up those four girls and make them lose one of their tight knit group.  Don’t target the big targets, target the smaller targets hopes that Scott/Alex will be more likely to want to let the low hanging fruit go more willingly.  Then she had the option BD if it presented itself but now that ACP went to Shelby stick to targeting the lowest hanging fruit and count on Alex/Scott and Shelby having to pick one of them to cut.

 

Jason

They’re still scared.

 

Dani

Yeah, I’m not gonna put them (Scott/Alex)  up.  

 

Jason

Because they’re the ones that are gonna be easiest to work, they’re the ones that are maybe still gonna be willing to try and work some deal with them.

 

Jason

The rest of them I see as not ever being willing to make any type of deal. 

Alex and Scott are playing hard enough at least it will be a consideration. 

 

Dani

Right.Yeah. This might be a chance to take out someone that America likes. On their side.  Without getting blood on their hands. While they’re on the block.

 

Jason

They wont have to do it later.

 

Dani

They won’t have to be the ones to nominate them. And it would make sure they get in good with us.  We can bring them and be like we know Scott versus them, normally we wouldn’t work with them but this is a game. This is a good game move. 

 

Jason 

We gotta try and get them there alone, so we can try to work them.  Because of we try to touch them, their friends are just going to defend them and not break away from them. But those are the two most likely to try to do some shit.

 

Dani

I didn’t plan on touching them. I was only going to touch Alex if it was like the perfect opportunity.  If AN one of them and there were three of them OTB and we had all our votes and I won veto I could pull someone down and put her up. But its not gonna happen this week, she’s not gonna go. 

 

Jason 

Even if you get a little fish out of their pond, it’s still a fish.

Dani

Its still not one of us. 

 

 

2:23 pm IWR

Shelby/Morgan/Alex

 

Alex

Do ya’ll think Whitney’s gonna be AN?

 

Morgan 

I have no idea.  I think there’s a good possibility.

 

I will be so happy if the AN this week isn’t one of the HN’s because all of the HG’s speculations have revolved around only potential for that 3 rd nom is from the HN’s of the week since the Plastics’ fan base has made it so predictable week after week after week.  Every week the others in the house just breathe a sigh of relief after HN’s are revealed because the way voting has gone HN has been the actually AN every week.  Yes, they may still go oh well he (Scott) was HN last week, but it does break the voting pattern for once.  Could you Plastics fans make this game any more predictable for them? 

 

Now, I know there are a lot of readers for this blog but I didn’t know how much the blog was actually being relied upon for up to date voting statistics.  Wow! Now that I do know that, when possible, I will post a blog dedicated to voting information an hour before voting opens.  This way for those of you looking for reliable information on what the majority of either fan base appears to be voting (to be fair) based on what I have found can have access to it before voting opens.  That being said, if you choose to rely on the information that’s exactly what it is information, a resource.  That doesn’t mean you have to vote that way.  It doesn’t mean I am saying 100% this is what everyone is doing.  It simply means I check as many reliable resources across a multitude of platforms, I do the leg work and based on the information I saw this is what I see a majority of fans doing.  I don’t have a crystal ball but with the voting war among fans, I have committed a great deal of time and effort to scanning the resources.  What I report will be how I vote in the best interest of avoiding a split vote to improve the chances of a majority vote among the misfits fans.  

 

This is literally the first time a BB season has gotten so heavily weighted this best case scenario and not necessarily where my opinion may lie from a purely strategic assessment of the game.  Those can be two very different opinions and in the interest of doing what I can to help the best case scenario based on the voting wars, this is where things have landed. I am not crazy about the fact I have to withhold my actual personal assessment of the game, players, strategy, and based on what the HG are currently doing in the game but sometimes you have to sacrifice the ‘me for the we’ in any game. Also, coming to the realization this blog has gotten far more attention, than I ever could have predicted just sharing my personal assessments of the game, there is now an added layer of delivering accurate fact based (voting) intel and not just me sharing what I think from watching the feeds all day. Based love of this game, I am willing to do it for now.  If I decide to change that you will be the first to know. LOL.

 

Saturday 3:40pm 

There’s a rare sighting of Morgan doing dishes!  She needs the practice because once Justin became a HN he will not be cooking for anyone!  For those not aware the Plastics wait until everything they own is dirty before doing a ton of laundry, rarely clean and always leave their dishes in the sink or the kitchen which drives Jason nuts (as well as some of the others).  There are also some LF’s who take day counts on how long it takes for Alex to take a shower. I have to say Jason didn’t last long on BB 17 but he was known for never washing dishes so this in some ways is karma and makes me laugh.  He has done a lot of cleaning this season from week 1 making sure he’s seen doing it because he knows last time he played this was a point of contention for other HG’s. 

 

BY

Kryssie and Jason 

 

Kryssie says at first she felt she didn’t have a chance but now she thinks she does. Danielle comes joins BY tells K/J that Production is trying to push an agenda, “I’m like NO” 

-Of course cameras cut away but based on what you see when they return you get the idea that they want her to work with Alex. The fact they even tried to sway her through questions in the DR or direct prompting, after she could hear the cheering for Whitney during the HOIH comp is laughable!  Seriously?  Why would she even pretend to consider that?

 

10/29 9:28pm cam 1/2

Whitney heads up to the HOH room to talk to Kryssie and Danielle. Jason joins them. 

 

Whitney to Dani

I just wanted to come up and talk to you before tomorrow. I’m sure you already have a plan on what you’re going to do. But I don’t know if you expect me to be the America’s nom. 

 

Danielle 

No, I don’t expect it. 

 

Whitney 

I don’t know if its going to influence your decision in anyway. I’m kind of freaking out about that. 

 

Jason – why would you think that. Whitney – because I was the last name. Do you know what you’re going to do? 

 

Danielle – I was waiting till after HN and that didn’t give too much information. I don’t think you’ll be America’s nom. Its really up to Shelby and who’s votes she cancels out. 

 

Jason 

Oh for sure we’re not voting. 

 

Kryssie agrees. 

 

Danielle 

Its not really up to me who goes. I don’t have a target. I don’t have a game plan. As of right now I don’t think you’re a threat. I think America likes you a lot. 

 

Whitney 

Well, we’ll see won’t we. 

 

Danielle 

You’re probably the last person. I want to be the only HOH to have 2 noms at eviction. If America put you up and I won the veto, I would pull you down. My talk with Shelby was pointless. She said she was going to us it in her favor. So I was like I guess this talk is over. 

 

Danielle 

I’m anxious to see who America’s nom is. Jason – b***h its going to be me. 

 

Whitney 

I really don’t have anything to offer you. Whitney leaves.

 

You can literally see Danielle handling this conversation with kid gloves.  She pauses sometimes to make sure she doesn’t say something she doesn’t want to.  It’s a very calculated conversation and one of the best HOH ones we’ve seen all season.  Regardless of which side of the fandom you are on, I know Dani had annoyed a lot of fans.  We have to credit her self imposed reset after we made her a HN and America’s nom.  Some may have expected the HOH to go to her head and she reverts back to all those same habits.  Yes, she still likes to talk about herself too much, but not nearly to the degree she had been doing and she has steered this HOH with purpose, paying attention to key details and done all she can to think about every angle and be prepared for it.  That shouldn’t surprise anyone she’s proven the way she thinks about the game is very strategically sound and in some ways all the personal attacks by Plastics with the voting against her has actually created her underdog story and they may live to regret it.  Let’s not get to far ahead of ourselves because who knows what changes by the end of this week, or going into week 6, but she deserves some credit for her actual game play.  She is by far one of the best players in the house.

 

10:35pm HNB

Justin/Whitney 

 

Justin working his own game along with some of the LNC overall strategy that’s been discussed this week.

 

Justin

I trust you more than anyone else on your side. I know you care for Alex and Scott but you can’t trust them because they will vote you out of here because they know they can’t win against you… 

 

Especially with America voting like this is the Homecoming King/Queen elections and not Big Brother. 

 

You see what I’m saying? Justin explains it’s the same thing for him on his side of the house. 

We like to think we have loyalty but you can’t trust nobody. I just want you to know that, I’ve got your back. I’ve talked to Scott . Scott and Alex they’re sharing the same ideas. They’re their own alliance. They’re going to eliminate Morgan and you and then Shelby last. 

 

If you’re up on the block they’re going to vote you out of here because they’ll be like they had no choice. My side loves you. But they see you as a threat at the end. There are only 3 care packages left. 

 

Justin explains why Morgan needs to be the one to go this week for both their games.  Morgan goes and America wants your side to have it then Whitney will get the next ACP.

 

Justin tells her that he is going to try and win HOH this week and  he hopes she gets the ACP. 

 

Justin

I don’t want you to go home. I don’t trust Morgan. In my favor the good thing is that Danielle is still in the house. If you’re on the block its the perfect opportunity for Morgan and Alex to vote you out and for them to be like we had no choice. 

 

I don’t want you to be blindsided by this. You’re been taking care of me and I appreciate it. 

 

Whitney 

I’m just going to take everything you say and make some moves if I have to and just take it day by day. 

 

Justin 

You can’t tell anyone what I tell you. My side won’t trust me if you do. 

 

Whitney 

 I won’t tell anyone. 

 

Justin 

This is best for our game if we just keep this between us. 

 

Whitney 

I won’t say anything.

 

12:30amHOHB cam 3/4 Misfits 

 

Jason 

Alex is a smart girl. I ain’t mad at her because we need her this week. 

 

Discussion about how Shelby will use the votes, who she will eliminate and knowing she’s going to leave Scott/Alex to vote. 

 

Danielle 

Whatever Alex does, Scott will do. 

 

The group discusses the ACP and what it will look like. 

 

Justin 

She (Shelby) will eliminate us three. 

 

Jason 

By nominating Morgan and Shelby we’re pretty much asking America to nominate one of us. 

 

Jason 

They’re not going to get any better scenarios to take out one of their own. If they decide not to do it, its bad game play on their part because they’re going to have to deal with them chicks later. The conversation turns to talking about random things.

 

BA Morgan/Alex (sorry forgot the note the timestamp)

Morgan tells Alex about her conversation with Danielle. Morgans says Dani is open to work with them.  Open to bouncing ideas off of her.  She was like I really respect how you got Neely out. She said she was happy I did it so that she didn’t have to do it herself. 

-Clearly this attempt by Dani to plant seeds is working to some degree.  She sold the I’m glad you did it and I didn’t have to with the girls.  That seed working into the idea that maybe losing someone on their own side means they go ahead and get what they would have to do later without getting blood on their hands. 

 

Alex 

She wanted to take Neeley out? 

 

Morgan 

Yes. I also told her that you have to think about who you want to take to the final 3. She said she wouldn’t take Justin. Everyone knows I wouldn’t beat him. She is going to want to target Justin. 

 

Alex 

Wow, she told you a lot more than she told us. You should try and work with her if possible.

 

This weekend started off looking like a terrible mess thanks to the crazy voting that is reminiscent of HS Homecoming King/Queen and not an entire community of Live feeders who love and know this game.  However, the misfits, like myself have chosen not to give up hope.  If you had a delusional perception that the misfits aren’t playing this game you were sadly mistaken. As I have said several times in the last 2 weeks that    as annoying as the voting has been not because one team’s fan base has been getting all the votes for everything in their favor for three weeks in a row.  If it was happening on its own merits and they were actually playing the better game misfit fans wouldn’t be so frustrated with the entire experience.  We are all paying the same amount every month but we are not all getting the same experience.   I have to clarify not all Plastics fans are guilty of the ridiculous manipulation, some see things in the game play on that side that they like and none of us have any issues with that at all.  We certainly aren’t seeing what you are seeing but if you really are watching and enjoying the game play more we all could respect that.  Its the blatant lack of strategic analysis of the game play by a portion of viewers and voting accordingly as well as the blatant cheating one particular fan base has been guilty of.  As the week has played on, I actually began to laugh. 

 

Danielle, Jason, and Justin are all playing hard!  Shelby has suddenly woken up and begun to flex her muscles a little bit.  Morgan is blind to what her sister is really doing. They’ve looked at what they are playing up against more outside the house than in since that’s where it’s coming from but they took immediate and swift actions.  Scott said some things to Shelby that made him land in her crosshairs.  Alex has been saying quite a few things that have to have both Whitney and Shelby looking around like ok, so according to you next week we are irrelevant and you are going to jump ship and form some new alliances? Justin reached out to Whitney and had a straight up convo.  He’s watching what’s happening to her and quickly realizing it could happen to him and already beginning to harvest some crop potentially from he seeds he’s been tending to for weeks now.  The final safety ceremony tonight with confirm which Plastics are officially the HOH nominees.  As long as it isn’t Scott thats who most people from both sides are nominating.  Polls have Scott up over Kryssie on Plastics polls and Scott is by far the majority opinion as America’s Nominee for the Misfits fans. Voting opens this evening at 8pm PST/11PM EST so make sure you get a vote in this evening and tomorrow morning.  If some wonky unexpected phenomena happens and Scott winds up being one of Dani’s nominees I will do an additional Voting blog with the name of the alternate for Misfits.  Plastics will already have Kryssie as a back up plan. 

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Happy Saturday LF's! Been a crazy busy day for me but didn't want to miss a day. Tomorrow I will cover a lot! I've been noting tons here and there but here's just a quick summary to satisfy you until I can do a complete rundown of 48 hours tomorrow.

 

After ACP was awarded to Shelby yesterday, BOO! The Plastics went crazy knowing America is doing all the work for them. They've talked about refusing to even bother talking to Dani. While the misfits had a hard blow from this feeling their worst fears were confirmed, "America hates us." They poured briefly but Justin gave the whole squad a pep talk! 1:15 pm

 

Within an hour they quickly ended the pity party and went back to what makes them the better players in the game! They actually rely on playing the game. Dani admitted she plans to nominate two low hanging fruit from the Plastics' tree (Shelby/Morgan) before the ACP was revealed and not target Alex or Scott out the gate. She's known since she won HOH she will need to win veto to make sure America's Nom (predicting likely a misfit) and force not only the Plastics but Amerixa to vote out a member of the 'dream team'. She told Jason she had hoped if she got a chance through Veto to take a shot at Alex she would but was satisfied if she could just take out one of the four girls since they are the tightest group of the 5. 

 

Today, HN's were revealed and again LNC fans lost the war. Kryssie, Whitney, and Justin were the HN's for the week. If you didn't watch the reveal go back its funny because all the Plastics, Scott, and Jason ran around screaming and celebrating like Justin has week after to week to give me a comic relief for his misery. 1:03 pm

 

3:45 pm BY Hammock

Scott/Alex were joined by Shelby. 

 

Scott to Shelby

The only way I would vote you out is if you and Alex were the 2 OTB together. 

 

Shelby 
Well I know to cancel your vote if that happens. 

 

Since this happened Shelby has been planting seeds about Scott within the Plastics accepting the harsh reality that Scott will always choose Alex over her and that's a problem. 

 

Two good LNC strategic convo's you should watch if you haven't: 

10/28 2:30 pm cam 3/4 
Dani/Jason BY hammock 

They discuss Dani's plan to nominate Shelby/Morgan. She knows she has a better chance to make some deals with Alex/Scott by not targeting them. She also knows if she did their backups will fight to the death to save them where A/S are far more likely to be persuaded to let Dani pick off one from their side that they would have to target eventually anyways and this way they don't get any blood on their hands. 

 

Jason/Justin 5:18 pm BY today 

Dani wants to Nom low hanging fruit on Plastics side. The two discuss Dani's strategy and J/J using this as leverage with S/A selling they are doing what they can to keep them safe. 

 

Jason/Justin also discussing same strategy Jason had come up with, keep Scott/Alex aligned with them potentially. That way in case Jason is AN, likely Shelby would cancel one of the weaker of that sides votes banking on the fact Shelby/Alex/Scott more of a trio makes Shelby less likely to cancel Scott/Alex votes come eviction night. 

 

Lots more going on in the house but I haven't had enough time today to dedicate to being thorough so that will have to wait until tomorrow. 

 

The Plastics have had several convos, although they have ACP and in their guts expect America to nominate a misfit there's no guarantee and you keep hearing them all say they are worried this week! Finally! 

 

Took all of less than 30 min after the HN reveal for Scott to scamper up to the HOH and have a one on one with Dani. This gained attention from the Plastics since he's been saying for days he won't even bother talking to her and expects to be her target. 

 

Eventually one one by one they all tucked their tails between their legs and made the dreaded trip upstairs which I will also cover in greater detail tomorrow. 

 

Finally, it's not official yet, we still have a little less than 24 hours before America's nominee voting begins but...Scott is leading the polls not only on LNC fan sites but on many Plastic fans sites as well! Don't jump the gun yet 24 hours is a long time in the BBOTT house and on SM, but it is looking like for the first time in weeks Plastocs fans are splitting their votes! While some want Kryssie to be the AN, there are a lot of others worried Scott will break up the Plastics and take Alex with him over to Justin/Jason so they are coming out in droves in support of nominating Scott and getting him out this week! 

 

LNC fans polls are very heavily leaning towards Scott as well. Tomorrow night once Dani's final safety ceremony is over I will put my official stamp on which Nom each fan base seems to be leaning towards but as of Saturday evening BB time this is what things look like or now! LNC fans are chomping at the bit! Hopeful to finally get a nominee they want on the block, prevent another misfit from going home and finally shift the momentum. 

 

Dani has played this HOH very well. Kept her plans to herself before ACP announced. Had various scenarios in mind but never planned to Nom Scott or Alex. I do think putting Shelby OTB now that she has ACP is better idea. She will have to use votes to protect herself first and foremost. Shelby hasn't done well in most the comps. Always landing in the middle except really last HOH where Scott, Alex, and Shelby all eliminated on first question. Plus the misfits are beginning to use the voting pattern in their strategy. There's been discussion that getting Morgan out would be advantageous since there are only 3 ACP's left this season. The Plastics only have 2 eligible players left to receive them so if one happens to go home this week (best case scenario) not only are the girls broken up from being a strong foursome but that also leaves only Whitney eligible to get 1/3 last ACP's and America will have to give 2/3 to misfits! 

 

I don't care which side of the fandom you fall. Who you like or dislike. Danielle has been a great HOH surprising many and her ability to read and play this game is worthy of some respect! Jason and Justin have been working hard and making plans, drawing Alex/Scott back in just in case AN happens to be one of them (Jason is certain he's going to be the America Nom). They may not be getting any love from the voters dominating and handing the Plastics the easiest path in BB history but misfits aren't taking it lying down and are playing this game HARD this week! Jason will be out of cigarettes this weekend and BB will provide him with nicotine patches. Thank goodness he didn't run out on a week where he was a HN too that would have been cruel and unusual punishment but...buckle up because he's gonna get REAL very quickly without his smokes. 

 

Tonight's safety ceremony: 

Kryssie, Justin, and Jason are safe! Good girl Dani make those girls sweat another 24 hours they've been doing it to you all season long. 

 

One last note. Justin has said he won't be cooking for those girls this week. He has to taste as he cooks and is a HN so they are on their own.  At least he's keeping us laughing as he deals with not eating and told Whitney its ok they will get through this week together. He also said this is the best week, if he has to be a HN at least they get to eat for an hour on Halloween for the party and that will help all the HN's get through the week! 

 

So  there you are. Some key moments in this quick post. I will have a long one tomorrow to catch you up on everything! Then I will post at least one more tomorrow after 7pm BB time when the final safety ceremony is complete to report the official nominees for both sides of the house in the America's nominee that begins 8pm Pst/11 pm Est. 

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Good evening LF's! Here's the results of the safety ceremony and the polls results for America's nominee this week! After that I have added the 1-1 talks each of the potential targets had with Dani on Saturday that I omitted from today's earlier post. 

 

Scott is safe!
Alex is safe! 
Morgan is safe! 

 

Shelby/Whitney have been nominated for eviction this week. 

Dani says this week she doesn't feel like she's in control other than keeping herself safe. There are limited choices and the only way she really has say in who is safe for the week is giving people a chance to play in the veto. Good luck to both of you. 

 

You can tell Justin is not happy. There's a halfway gesture to clap after she says now we wait to see who America's Nom is. 

 

Speaking of which! Voting opens in about 45 mins! 8pm Pst/11pm Est so make sure to get your votes for Scott in if you're voting with the majority on either side this week the nominee is the same! Polls on both sides of the fandoms have Scott in the lead so make sure you vote and ensure its a Plastic who hits the block and save the misfits. 

 

Plastics are wanting to target Scott. They worry he will split the Plastics up and they aren't down with that as a possibility. 

 

Misfits won't decide on a target for eviction just yet. Let's see how veto plays out and I will report back over the next two days and see what the popular opinion is as far as misfits fan majority vote for eviction! 

 

Now here are the one on one convos Plastics and Scott had with Dani on Saturday. If you haven't seen them yourself I recommend you go watch them. There's no substitute for these types of interactions where you can observe body language, see the flow of dialogue as it happens but I've summarized the gist and included the specifics that were really most relevant. Whitney's made in to today's earlier post but here are the other four. 

 

Dani/Shelby 1-1 HOH chat
1:28 pm cam 3/4

Dani assures Shelby Scott isn't her target. She doesn't view him as a threat to her game. Personally she doesn't like him but game wise he's not her target, doesn't view him as a threat. Also tells her she's not her target. Even if somehow she ends up on the block, use the votes to protect herself, and know no one on her side is targeting Shelby. 

 

Shelby tells Dani she feels like they are good for each other to take to the end. She's been trying to keep Dani's name out of topic of targets on her side because she realizes there are a lot of people in this house neither of them would win against, but the two of them at the end gives them a better shot evenly at winning over some others in the house. Mentions there might be someone mutually beneficial for both of them to go this week, once noms are up then they can chat about that. 

 

Contrary to what she told the Plastics in the BY she told Dani she doesn't expect her to put anyone up from her side. She has been thinking about working with Dani to get some other threats to both their games out and the ACP gave her the opportunity to come and approach her with her idea. 

One note, it's funny Shelby comes in HOH and literally lays down sprawled out on the couch talking about her ideas with Dani which actually was a very non-threatening posture to take. 

Scott asks to speak to Dani after Shelby convo ends and Dani is in KIT. 


1:34 Scott/Dani HOH 1-1 cam3/4
Dani is the far bigger person in this scenario. She comes at him very passively. Explains until recently their games hadn't really crossed each other's paths. She had no idea about the 4 guy alliance he had with Shane the first night and had she known she would have made her moves very differently. 

 

Scott says he thought she knew about that. She confirms she knew Shane had a thing with Monte but never knew all four of those guys had any kind of deal. 

 

Dani tells Scott last week she considered approaching Scott and telling him that she was going to back Justin and go ahead and vote Neely out along with Justin.  Explains she was safe for the first time and was able to sit back and observe more and knew Neely was going to be more loyal to the others in their group, knew Justin didn't trust her and this is an individual game at the end of the day it made sense to come for Neely while she had the chance because at the end of the day she knew Neely would take a shot at Dani given the chance. 

 

Dani admitted the KIT thing with him she felt like she needed to apologize initially she knew she over reacted emotionally but then when she was told about the whole plan to terrorize her it struck such a deep personal chord from her past/childhood and experience she was like forget that and things just snowballed from there. She apologized to him for screaming at him across the house. Said there's no hard feelings. 

 

They discuss the events to that led to the divide between them. Dani tells him he's not her target this week. Explains she feels like she's the low hanging fruit in her own alliance and sees him possibly being in that same position so for that reason why come after him? Tells him if he's AN she wins veto she plans to take him down. 

 

Scott admits Alex is the only person in the game he's not going to turn on. Says as long as Alex isn't OTB this week he will know there's potential for the 3 of them later down the road. 

 

Scott says he appreciates that. This full convo is one you should go back and watch. 

 

Dani relays most of her convos honestly with misfits after the occur. Misfits feel like Morgan leaving is the best target this week. If Whitney has to go that's the game, but prefer to keep her over Morgan. Jason confirms Alex/Scott would vote Morgan out over Shelby of its those two OTB. 

-wouldn't that be a glorious situation for Alex to find herself in?! Especially since Morgan said to Alex she's considered having to vote her out soon and Alex said if she did that she would unfriendly her on FB and delete her number from her phone. 

 

Morgan wants to talk to Dani before Whitney has a chance to. She actually ends up waiting until after the safety ceremony. They are really all priming to vote Whitney if it comes down to one of their own. It is very sound for Dani to target one of the Plastics over Scott. They would cut him first and have their 4 girl alliance in tact and Dani knows all too well that is the case. She is all about breaking up the girls even if it's one of them that's a better play for her and I agree with her since Shelby got the care package unless Shelby is prepared to take a big shot and I don't see for her that being anyone but Scott after this weekend. 

 

Sat 3:54 pm TKBCam 3/4
Shelby/Alex after Scott mentions he would vote Shelby out over Alex. 

 

Alex says she wanted to talk to him alone because she knows he wouldn't really spill everything i know front of the whole group which is why she wanted to talk to Shelby alone now. 

Shelby says after talking to Dani and to Scott she knows Scott is working with Dani. 

Alex says is that why he's not going OTB? Shelby says yeah. Alex says so she's probably going OTB for sure. She asks how she knows. 

 

Shelby explains he told her Dani mentioned the fact that she and Scott are both low hanging fruit. That he talked to Dani about keeping Whitney over Morgan. She also tells Alex Scott made a one week deal with Danielle for no Nom's, veto, no BD, no renom. Which Scott later confirms to Alex. That leads Alex to believe she could make a deal with Dani in addition to Jason. 

 

That got Alex's attention! She's like wait no we need to keep Morgan over Whitney. Alex says with Shelby's ACP she can control that with her votes. That Alex would vote however Shelby wants. Shelby says wouldn't you rather keep Morgan over Whitney? 

This all ties back into Justin confiding in Whitney and making sure she knew those girls are trying to offer Whitney up as the sacrifice this week of one of them has to go home. 

 

Jason/Justin have told Alex/Scott they are doing everything they can to keep them safe.
Dani told Scott/Shelby/Whitney they are not her targets. They aren't biggest threats to her game and she's willing to work with them because she knows she would be the one her group would sacrifice first. 

 

Alex/Scott want to keep Shelby/Morgan safe. 

All LNC wants to keep Whitney safe. 

 

The Plastics are very threatened by Whitney's ties to LNC. She better smell the coffee or she's a goner for sure soon. 

 

Alex wants to keep Morgan knowing Morgan will stay loyal to her. Would sacrifice her for her own game if she had to, but over Shelby/Whitney she would protect Morgan. 

 

Alex wants Scott under her thumb and knows he's going to protect her. 


Shelby's steady looking around knowing Scott/Alex tighter than her with either one of them. 

 

Alex tries to troubleshoot the divide growing between Scott/Shelby by suggesting they offer a F3 deal with her. 

 

7:15 pm Alex/Dani 1-1 HOH chat
Cam 1/2

Alex tries to make friendly small talk about baby powder fight in HOH last night. This is so weird since she never bothers to talk to Dani normally if I were Dani it would all seem so fake. 

 

Alex says she doesn't know, but assumes she would be Dani's target since Shane/Dani went up and she voted to evict Shane. If she is the target she's Willing to make a deal to not be the target and not be put OTB. Alex tries to sell the fact that there getting to a point in the game where the groups aren't going to last much longer and when that happens the two of them are the two stingray female players who will be the biggest targets in the house. 

Alex explains it seems smarter for them to start protecting each other because if one goes then the other becomes the next target. They should be each other's shields. Then after saying all that offers a 1 week deal to keep her safe. 

 

-She really is terrible at this part. So went into whole story about sides breaking up, we need each other. Then says I'm willing to offer you one week deal? Lol. Then says she can totally convince the girls on her side to not target her as well. And she wonders why
People think she's steering that ship? LOL. 

 

Alex tells Dani she knows Scott has mentioned wanting to work with her as well. That he already talked to Dani. Dani had pretty much let Alex talk the entire time, didn't interrupt her.

 

Once Alex was done Dani says "so my only question is I know you've gone back on deals before."  

 

She couldn't even get the sentence out and Alex is talking over and through her, begins fidgeting with her hair, Alex starts dancing around the first deal with the Monte week and the LNC trio saying they would vote Scott out if she put him up and that would keep Monte safe, so when Alex went back on her word she felt like is was an eye for an eye because she'd been told they were lying to her when that all happened (Kryssie/Neely/Jason) week 2 when Alex was HOH and they approached her. 

 

-here's the thing. Were they trying to run game on Alex? Yes. Did they ever go back on their word? No Not like Alex put Scott up and they voted Monte out instead. Kryssie already told Alex she relied on bad Intel from Shane. No way to fact check that. Alex never bothered to talk to Kryssie and they have now had this convo and she still doesn't own that she apologized to Kryssie, used that to her advantage she just wraps it up in too many words and spews the exact same regurgitated mess she said to Kryssie. She knows they talk! She has to know Kryssie told Dani exactly what she said and she's now in a way contradicting herself by not zoning in on the keys points instead of rehashing everything Kryssie already shot down. 

 

Why is she bringing all that up. There's a much more diplomatic way to address the question than replaying and making justifications when there really were none. She never even addresses breaking her word with Kryssie just rambles more about them lying to her according to someone else and I tried to resolve that with Kryssie last week and this kind of if she's still holding on to that that's her problem not mine kinda attitude. Plus she threw all these new things at Kryssie last week and she got safety and everything she agreed to with Kryssie went right out the door. Never even really said hey I'm safe now so...just...next lie in the works. 

 

Alex actually says to Dani in this game all I really do have is my
Word. All I can do is prove it to
You in the Coming weeks. 

 

-isn't this the same player who makes a point of telling everyone that lying is a part of the game? People make deals and break them and that's part of BB why don't those people understand that? Who's the hypocrite-diot? OMG she is so BAD at this game! It's painful to watch. She just chased her own tail every week and then stands around going I don't know why people see me as the biggest threat, think I'm at the top of the Plastics alliance? 

Alex finishes with, whatever you decide to do I respect it. I think you're a really strong player in this game. 

 

Dani politely just says, ok, thanks, I think you made a lot of valid points. Then she says I am interested in deals in the future. Don't really know what I'm gonna do this week but I think people expect me to Come for you and Scott. 

 

Once again doesn't let Dani finish, cuts her off, talks thigh over her again. Is Monte channeling his spirit through Alex right now? When Alex lies she always shrugs her shoulders, makes the exact same hand gestures this IDK hands up thing. Every single time! 

 

They end their chat and Dani actually exits HOH right along with Alex gets halfway across the sky bridge and you hear Morgan yell up to her wanting to talk now.

 

REALLY? You guys don't even try to talk to her all day? Couldn't you spread it out a little? And waiting until after safety? If I were in the house, saw this happen the next time I won HOH I wouldn't save all
My friends first. I would throw someone I wasn't targeting that already talked to me up there just to scare the bejeezus out of these fools. How do they not understand that faking the funk is a huge part of being effective in this game?!

Dani replies telling her she told Kryssie she's looking forward to talking game with people she's never had a chance to talk game with. 


-look at how she worded that. Not accusatory or inflammatory. She could have easily specifically said now you all have to talk game with me. Or you girls have never talked game with me. None of that. In all the convos with the exception of Alex when she says you made a deal with Kryssie and broke it and even that she does it in a non threatening way. 

 

7:20 PM Morgan/Dani HOH 1-1
Morgan enters much more directly and says she just wanted to talk to her before she eats. Brings up the fact this is the first time she's ever talked game with her.

 

Morgan has got to stop going last or close to last! She ends up saying the same things the others say and when she comes in after all of them it makes her seem like the least sincere and most unprepared. 

 

Morgan says almost the same thing. I think you're a smart player. I wanna play this game with my head and not my heart. If you keep me safe this week if I'm HOH next week I will keep you safe. I know this house division is not going to last more than a week, two weeks max. I've seen some people talking, I don't know if they're working together but I don't think anyone would see this coming. You have to start thinking who you want to take to the end. There's a lot of big personalities in this house. I'm not America's sweetheart. I've yet to get ACP so I know America hates me. I've yet to make a big move. For me, I think it's something to think about keeping me. Then if we get to that point, Idk. 

 

Dani lets her finish as well. Says she feels like this week is going to be a big game change no matter what happens. 

 

Morgan
Oh yeah I agree. 

 

-Again doesn't let her finish talks through Dani which considering all these girls always discuss how Dani talks through everyone and never lets anyone else talk and then she and Alex both do the exact thing they criticize her for with a scripted deal is just hilarious to watch. 

 

Dani points out this is the halfway point in the game. Things will shift the next week or two and as much as it feels like this 5 weeks went by slow (as it was happening) it now feels like it went by like that! 

 

Ok, there you have it! Sorry I forgot to include these in the earlier post. Now go VOTE! No matter who you vote for just vote! 

 

 

 

 

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You Can't Rewrite History

 

There are times when its necessary to take a step back away from the game and reflect on the game as a whole and not constantly immersed in the ‘politics’ of it all. Even players in the game inside the house need to take a few hours to not think about game all day and come back with a refreshed point of view.  I said to several people over the weekend this voting war between the two sides of fandom has seriously taken the enjoyment out of the game for me.  Not because fans like one side or the other, that always happens.  Misfit fans in the interest of protecting their favorite players, generally speaking Justin/Jason, because it became evident that the voting trend of the Plastics fan base was going to inevitably put them in danger.  Since we are in a holding pattern between last night’s nominees announcement and this morning America’s nom and veto draw there are some things it may benefit all of us to consider. 

 

 

First, let’s not rewrite BBOTT history.  I see a lot of comments that misfit fans didn’t mind when the voting favored them the first two weeks.  To a degree that is true.  We certainly weren’t mad it.  What isn’t true is that the voting the first two weeks was done to protect the misfits because their fans didn’t like the Plastics.  That is not true.  Let us all remember that Cornbread was a character a lot of LF’s in preseason were excited to watch on the feeds.  The expectation of how funny and entertaining he was going to be was quickly deflated the first week of the game.  Before players even really had made a line in the sand in the house as we got to know the HG’s the majority of LF’s collectively voted him as America’s nominee for two basic reasons.

  1. He was a huge disappointment to what they had created in their minds.
  2. LF’s collectively, once the two four person alliances formed and agreed to join together to create a powerful voting block, were completely against allowing one huge voting block come in and steamroll the LNC.

That’s the bottom line.  It wasn’t oh we like the LNC better than the Plastics, we quickly were coming to the conclusions as LF’s we were disappointed in CB and we were rapidly growing in dislike for Monte as a player, as character, and watching him on feeds was insufferable. Thats’ the truth in why CB went up, despite his own alliance member being HOH, and its why he went home.

 

Week 2 begins and Monte begins to gain more and more momentum from the general population of LF’s and their dislike of him.  He was entirely against Justin, which still for the most part both fan bases liked as a fan favorite.  Add to that we all were sick of and Monte’s rants, terrible game play, his inability to shut up and let anyone else talk, obsessive compulsive behaviors, general arrogance, and how that was beginning to effect the girls in the Plastic alliance and we were all collectively on board with eliminating Monte again despite the fact his own side was in power.  That wasn’t purely misfit fans targeting the other side of the house that was all LF’s saying get him out now!  Enough!  We don’t want to watch him and he will come for Justin.  

 

Did those first two weeks as a side effect benefit the misfits?  Yes, but that was also the secondary motive of LF’s in general because again none of us wanted this huge voting block to just run away with the game from the gate.  We want to see a great game.  Then the discussions among us became we have to be careful with this voting the HG are going to misread it and we need to mix it up and keep them guessing.   My first few weeks of this blog were very much weighted on thinking about how voting impacts the players you like and always voting their way is not a good idea.  It makes them complacent and cocky (which we all saw in Dani and Kryssie the first couple weeks).  None of us liked that whether we were fans of that side or the other it’s historically not a look LF’s like in BB which shifted our focus on the showmance.  

 

Both sides of fandom didn’t like watching Dani/Shane on the feeds.  We didn’t like the comments Dani was making about how America loves her and not ‘them’ and we collectively felt like she needed a reality check in the form of a week of HN’s.  Then Scott won HOH which had the LNC side of things begin to get very concerned for the safety of J/J long term in the game and much of our voting began to be motivated by protecting LNC because that in turn protects J/J.  We were all talking about how negative and annoying Kryssie was.  We were putting Dani under a microscope.  I dedicated a blog early on week 1 conveying that always putting three players form the same side as HN’s was a terrible idea, and we are partly responsible for planting that seed in Dani’s head.  That LF’s should use HN’s as a strategy and mix the HN’s form both sides of the house, one to keep them guessing and prevent the idea they are so loved on one side or the other, and two to create opportunities where people form both sides were forced to interact with each other because the great divide between the two sides was just going to keep growing with America’s influence impacting the game is such a significant manner.  

 

So now, the Dani hate is growing and although from a game perspective, Dani/Shane were a shield for J/J they had done the leg work intentionally to create no only were most LF’s on board with breaking them up when Scott hatched the plan, the misfits had already discussed week 2 that she was quickly becoming a problem more than a benefit, that voting was not going to keep going their way. Jason knows all too well how this works, and had met as the primary 4 person alliance  J/J/K/N and agreed it’s coming, their side is going to have to prepared for it an agreed if one of the 6 person voting block has to go it was always going to be one of the showmance and they preferred it was Dani but Shane was an acceptable loss.  Misfit fans were in agreement.  J/J were almost always the two players we liked best out of the gate and much of our voting was done to protect those two.  In the same way that by now Alex had gained a significant fan base and their primary goal was to protect her and at that point the secondary goal in doing that was protecting the Plastics.  

 

No one cared about M/CB.  Not from either side of fandom.  Even I, who does prefer the LNC because I prefer J/J as players in the game long term, said form a global game perspective Monte is hurting the girls’ game and that will only get worse.  That’s why he went, the blow ups in the house occurred and no one (in the house or among most LF’s) cared about Scott at the end of week 2.  He went from being in this amazing position to being the worst player by his own hand. Scott became more relevant week 3 because, Alex smartly had ensured that Scott would be able to come to their side and seek shelter in week 2 which benefited the girls in voting numbers should Monte go home, the same way that the showmance benefited the misfits numbers.  

 

It seems like many people have forgotten how we arrived where we are.  There was a path, laid by LF’s and week 3 many LNC fans (as fans of BB) and of their side of the house were in agreement that Dani needed a reality check to bring her down a peg with a week as HN’s.  I blogged about how I felt to some degree it was unfair for some many LF’s to be so hard on her when in fact it was their voting pattern that contributed to her believing she was America’s sweetheart and had they mixed up the HN’s beginning in week that would not have happened.  I am not saying Dani doesn’t have to own some of the fault in her actions.  They were a choice, you didn’t see Jason, Justin, or Neely at that point in the game getting cocky and arrogant like her and Shane for that matter.  None of the LNC fans even cried when Shane went home we all felt like that was actually, based on the game and history of BB, a good strategic move.  We were all tired of watching them go off alone together, they were drawing more attention to LNC and although they were shields keeping Dani and sending Shane home did keep a larger shield in front of them and from a game perspective it made sense.  We weren’t trying to stack numbers so then LNC had the voting power and could steamroll the other side.  We were all still voting in a more strategic manner with the underlying motive of just not hurting the work that J/J had actively put in place early on to layer themselves in multiple sub alliances within one voting block to maintain their safety in the game.  However, this is the week things began to shift globally among the LF’s and the divide finally began to appear. 

 

Plastics fans love Alex, Like or not that’s who they like int he same way that we have a preference and for many of us it is either both or one with Jason and Justin.  There are no really Kryssie fan bases.  Some of us, although not necessarily Neely fans were looking ahead and seeing her begin to build ties with Morgan and that’s what we want to see in BB.  Social game is very important in the beginning because you are setting up potential for shifts in alliances down the road.  Whitney was beginning to integrate herself socially more and more with both sides although she was team Plastics and again that’s smart strategically to create social game foundations you can build on as the numbers begin to dwindle. Week 3 what began among LF nation is this insistence that there HAD to be some crossover between the two sides and some voting this week was an attempt to try and force this to happen.  In truth, that is never a good idea. 

 

New alliances always form eventually in the game but LF’s were worried the distinct division was going to prevent it from happening so this week the HN’s were mixed up a bit more. Dani was made a HN along with Alex and Shelby.  The ACP went to Scott in almost unanimous agreement because the voting was having such a huge influence on the game and long time fans felt like, since Scott wasn’t a fan favorite. The first few ACP’s should be wasted on non pivotal players to preserve later ACP’s to help fan favorites it made sense to anyone who really knows and understand the game to let the HOH that week regain some of the HOH power and influence that kept being countered by the amount of America’s voting.  Shane went home, I don’t think fans from either side of the house cried over that.  Now the first two weeks, as a side effect of our dislike of CB and Monte it did favor the misfits but remember that was the secondary goal of all LF’s to prevent an 8 person voting block from running away from the game week 1. Plastics fans need to stop saying it was misfits fans that made that happen!  You all voted the same way we did for the exact same reasons! It wasn’t a fan base move it was a LF’s strategic and purposeful decision collectively and it happened to benefit the LNC those first weeks but that was your goal as much as ours. 

 

Week 4 came and finally after 3 weeks of failing to win power the LNC finally did.  Unfortunately for us all watching the feeds it was Kryssie.  This is where the real voting war began.  As much as LNC fans don’t like Kryssie, it was the first time the power in the house finally shifted and the Plastics fans suddenly abandoned all global game sense and knowledge and made it their personal agenda to make her miserable.  So as a collective group you united and since you couldn’t nominate Dani, again for personal reasons not game reasons, you set out to then hurt Kryssie, for personal reasons not game reasons, and targeted Neely.  

 

The teams were now even week 4.  Plastics had 5 people with Scott and Misfits had 5 with Dani.  You’re hate for Dani has nothing to do with game.  If you were strictly evaluating her as a strategic player you would rank her higher.  After week 3 she took a step back, did much more listening than talking.  Observed people, and took the slap on the wrist we all gave her as a wake up call which from purely a game perspective was what LF’s who love this game had hoped it would do.  However, despite the fact she reeled it in, you were mad she didn’t go home and decided LNC needed to suffer because of it.  The person you should be mad at is Scott!  You handed her head on a platter to him and the Plastics who had been saying for 3 weeks they wanted her out of the game and they finally could have eliminated her and they chose not to.  Alex didn’t try to persuade Scott with much effort to get him to agree she needed to go.  She folded like a lawn chair and voted how the HOH wanted.  This is the most amazing hypocrisy of any LF nation I’ve ever witnessed.  Season after season we complain about this terrible idea that manifests in the house that people should vote with the ‘house’ or the HOH because it’s their HOH.  We rant about this year after year and because it was Alex and your team that did it and you couldn’t bring yourself to look at it like you always have until now you are taking your animosity about it out on LNC. 

 

Now you can say you don’t like those players, they talk too much smack, they are gross, blah blah, blah.  The fact of the matter is that’s not why you are targeting Neely week 4.  You targeted Neely because you are still harboring week 2 feelings about Dani .  Yes, there is a secondary goal, you have now picked a team you like and the voting of course regardless of which fandom, at this point in the game is going to be to benefit the team you like most. The teams were even.   If that were the sole reason the fire storm that has erupted wouldn’t have erupted.  You cannot be a fan of this game and not credit Dani with the fact she is a good player when just evaluating her game. There have been plenty of good gamers in BB history that personality wise we may not like but we have normally overlooked that and credited them with game play over the personal crap. That’s what separates us from he casuals.  We analyze the game and don’t get sucked in to AFH mentality.  Was Neely the best player to take out of the game?  I’m sure we could make arguments for both sides of that discussion.  When I started this blog the players I was hardest on were players who were not actively playing well rounded games or making much effort at all.  

 

Yes, I’ve been hard on Alex.  I’ve never said she’s not playing the game at all.  My analysis of her game, for me, as a LF is that she has all the tolls and her execution is terrible based on the amount of knowledge that she has.  She ranks lower for me, than Morgan, or a Neely although they aren’t as in your face they were both demonstrating some strategic chops, developing active social games, observing and making some accurate assessments on both sides of the opposing teams and laying foundations to potentially float to the middle and form some other alliances.  They weren’t making deals and breaking them so others saw them as untrustworthy.  Until this week have I ever targeted Alex herself? Nope.  Did I say from a game perspective eliminating a Shelby or a Scott was a good move to force her to play the game more actively?  Yes, that’s exactly what I’ve said.  I’ve also conveyed I don’t understand why LF’s admire her actual game play.  It was puzzling to me, until I realized it’s not because the majority of you are claiming she’s this mastermind gamer, it’s because of two very basic reasons. 

  1. Compare to the other players in the house she is playing the game and in doing so that makes so she is playing better than many others.
  2. More importantly you are loving the potential for an all girls alliance to last for the first time in many many years. 

Those are reason a rational mind can accept.  That all made much more sense to me as someone who has followed this game since season one and learned to love this game.  

 

However, I caution that the decisions being made for personal hate of another player being the basis for voting decisions is likely going to hurt her in the long run.  Having blinders on in how things will happen the next week and the week after that is inevitably going to put your favorite player in danger.  She already had a target on her and the more you continue to vote in her favor the more likely it is that target grows, she begins to make mistakes as a consequence of relying too much on America voting, and not planning ahead for when things don’t go her way any longer.  The saying that when you fear something too much you actually create it is one that should be lingering in the backs of your minds when you play emotionally and not strategically. You gave Scott ACP week 2 not anticipating he would become a more key player by her design.  You feared for Alex’s safety and didn’t have the confidence in her abilities to save herself so you gave her ACP the third week is was in play.  Now you out of fear and some competitive nonsense in the feeling you have to dominate voting to establish yours is bigger than LNC’s and have blindly given Shelby the ACP in a trifecta.  By your own inability to step back and look at the global view of the entire game and only assessing the narrow view of your hate for Dani and the LNC you may have done more harm than good for the longevity of your team. If Scott goes home this week because you have insighted this war of LF’s you wont have anyone to blame but yourselves.  

 

If you think about the history of BB the second half of the game is when new alliances begin to form organically.  In week 2 and to some degree week 3 there was a lot of fandom discussion that they wanted to vote to force the house to close the divide and force people to start looking around.  While another polarizing group felt like they had to push everything the Plastics way because voting was all going in the LNC favor.  That is something you created in your own minds.  You magically dismissed the facts that we all wanted CB and Monte gone and none of us wanted to see an 8 person voting block formed by day 3 steam roll one group and that wouldn’t make for a good game.  

 

By giving Shelby the ACP and prompting the Plastics to begin to plot against Whitney you have contributed to the breakdown of the Plastics which was what many of you in week 4/5 were trying prevent. For LNC fans you have to realize that Plastic fans are so gung ho because they are very invested in the 4 girls alliance staying in tact.  Both sides of the house say things that are offensive.  Players always do things people don’t like.  That always happens in this social experiment. Don’t get blinded by defending the virtue of your team.  That’s a losing battle. We have reached the middle of the game and with Dani’s HOH it did naturally create some cross talk.  Trying so hard to keep one side in tact or the other can have the opposite effects when you aren’t looking at the game as a whole where it is right now and stuck on some past hatred created weeks ago you are making impulsive decisions.  The same caution is being communicated to the LNC fan base.  We’ve rallied the last two weeks to war against the monopoly of voting and it’s a good idea to take a step back and realize that choosing a random player to target not based on a global view of the game could eventually hurt the very primary players we are trying to protect. 

 

Some new alliances are beginning to blossom and thats good for the game as whole.  It may also be most beneficial to the most popular players like Alex, Shelby, Justin, and Jason.  Give this some genuine consideration before you run with some reflex plan trying to stop the other fan base.  We shouldn’t be basing things on competing against each other.  We should be making decisions that are  going to create some protection around the players we want to have some longevity whatever the motivation is.  Misfits are going to fracture.  Plastics may very well fracture.  Attempting to force them to stay together could very well result in the primary players we are trying to help get to the last third of the game and position them to fight their own way to those last 3 chairs and you know what that might mean.  We are left with Kryssie, Whitney, and let’s say Dani because we didn’t use the voting power we’ve been given effectively.  We all have some things in common.  We want to see great players make it the end.  We all want entertaining feeds.  We all want to see some amazing game moves.  I recommend we all keep that in mind since Scott has been made the third America’s nom and we are awaiting the results of today’s veto comp to make a decision on who we want the eviction vote to go to.  I caution you not to choose someone based on what happened weeks ago or because they annoy you now that we are in week 5.  It’s a different game, the focus on the teams as the primary focus to have voting dominate diminishes inside the house.  The individual game play becomes primary at this stage in BB with the teams moving to the secondary positioning.  It’s how this works. Remember that.

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Tricks and Treats

 

It’s a Halloween full of tricks and treats in the BB house today!  The America’s Nominee was announced this morning and the HG were shocked to find out that Scott was nominated as the 3 rd nominee for week 5 of BBOTT!  The veto draw followed this announcement and to follow the day’s theme, of expect the unexpected the first name drawn by Danielle was Whitney.  Whitney chose Justin as her HG’s choice.  The second name drawn was……JASON!  Yes, after 5 weeks his name was finally drawn to play veto and he was so excited.  After the veto draw HG’s were herded to the BY for a 3 hours OLD which left them all puzzled what the comp could possibly be today as it would take place inside the house.  

 

A few minutes after 1 PM HG’s were informed by the hostess, Morgan, that today’s competition is called The Haunting of Clementine O’Grady.  Essentially all the veto players were moved to the IWR to await their turns in the completion while the non-players were sequestered in the HOHB and were treated to being able to watch each individual player complete the task.  What was the task?  The house had been transformed to a mild version of a haunted house and three items belonging to a young girl who once lived on this land and murdered her family would have to recovered.  The scavenger hunt would take place in the dark and HG were give a small headlamp to wear and told the prized items of Clementine, a hairbrush, a rattle, and a doll named Abigail had to be found within 15 minutes (max) and returned to the toy box located in the center of the pentagram. Once the players were sequestered together in the IWR they were told some very general information such as the items could be found in plain sight in the three bedrooms.  Once a player completed the competition they were then allowed to join the others in the HOHB and watch the rest of the players compete.  

 

This was such a great veto competition!  As LF’s, many of us have so enjoyed the new competitions and the simplicity that BB budget has resulted in.  The fact HG’s can’t anticipate the competitions as they do in summer seasons is such a refreshing element added to the BBOTT season.  The variation and unique competitions has been truly one of the things many of us have really appreciated.  There were live characters placed in rooms throughout the house as well as manikins which added an element of trickery HG’s certainly reacted to in a variety of ways.  If you haven't watched the competition itself you should!  Veto began at 1:35 and lasted just around an hour.  Justin went first and as we all know a witch hat alone spooked him so his reactions as the first competitor will get you primed for the ones that follow.  I couldn’t believe how fast he was!  I had to replay it two more times just to be able to log his actual finish time it happened so fast and I was laughing so much.  Of all 6 HG’s Shelby’s by far was the most entertaining to me!  She was so spooked going in that it only gained momentum as the minutes passed.  She actually found all three items relatively quickly, still not quick enough to bet the top two times, but it was respectable for sure.  Then she had some problems finding the location of the toy box which gives us all 3 extra minutes of her reactions to things lingering about the house it was glorious entertainment that will have you rolling on the floor laughing!  At point as she walks down the hallway to the BR’s there are several manikins covered in plastic, which it appears she doesn’t realize are mankind, as she passes one the first time she says “Don’t you dare touch me I will sue your ass!” After her second or third passing those same manikins and a whole lot of f bombs in between she brushes her arm against the plastic, assumes it was a person touching her and yells again “I said don’t TOUCH ME I will sue you!”  This is a must watch.

 

Now, I am not going to detail all of the turns, I know you can watch them and I don’t want to ruin it, but in the end after 6 HG’s brave the darkness in the Haunted BBOTT house we have a winner! 3:04 pm the results are announced. 

 

Veto Times:

Justin          1:50

Scott        2:08    

Shelby        5:06

Jason        2:14    

Whitney    4:52    

Danielle    1:22

 

Danielle wins the veto!  She accomplished what she set out to do this week and that was an amazing time!  As matter of fact, according to Shelby (and a lot of Plastics fans) that makes Danielle a “Comp Queen” since in her last DR that’s how she described Alex with her two wins.  Yes, all those Plastics fans who informed me they loved Alex as a player because she’s a competition beast and has won the most comps (all of 2) should now have a new found respect for Danielle, right?  LOL  The sad news for many is now Danielle holds all the nomination power this week for veto and we will likely have to wait until tomorrow’s ceremony to find out with the rest of the HG’s if she decides to take America’s Nominee down as she planned at the beginning of the week no matter who it was, so America’s nominee would not go home.  Or will she leave her nominations the same alongside Scott and allow the Plastics to try and vote out Whitney which is what they had planned before the AN was announced this morning. 

 

After the results are given for the veto HG’s are again put on an OLD and they move to the BY for around an hour while the BBOTT is returned to its original decor.  Once back inside the Alex, Morgan, Shelby head off to the BA and immediately begin to ponder if Dani will take Scott down, leave the nominations the same or will Whitney or Shelby come down and Morgan go up?

 

Morgan

What do you think she’s gonna do, bring Scott down?

 

Alex

Or will she leave them?

 

Shelby

She’ll take Scott down.

 

Morgan

She’s gonna take him down and make us decide between…

 

They go back and forth with this and then Alex says

Justin and Kryssie are going to be in her ear (re: Whitney),  Will she do her own thing or will she do what they want?

 

Shelby heads into the WC to change clothes and gets ready to take a shower.  

 

Alex says to Morgan 

We need to talk to Whitney and make her feel very buddy, buddy because I feel like she probably feels like the bottom of us right now because of all of this and I don’t want her to feel like that.  

 

-Well yeah!  Whitney has two people from the other side she’s good friends with. Quite frankly she’s been nice and made personal connections on varying levels with everyone in the house which makes her far more appealing to keep around and potentially work with.  Whitney is also the only one that hasn’t lied to anyone and broken her word in the literal sense.  Even with Kryssie last week when she promised to vote how Kryssie wanted she went back and sacrificed her own self volunteering to be the replacement nominee to avoid having to break her trust and also not turn on the alliance she has been loyal to without hesitation despite how she is treated but all of you since day 1.  Imagine that? Social game has earned Whitney some friends that see the ability to play this game along side her and living them wanting eliminate someone else they have zero connection to at all?  Who would have ever guessed that would happen in BB?  LOL

 

Morgan

I was thinking say she took down Shelby or Whitney and put me up? Then we could still vote out Scott.

 

 

Scott wanders in and Alex calls him over unaware that Whitney is also coming down the hallway 

 

Alex

Are you gonna ask her to use it on you?

 

Scott

I’m gonna ask her. 

 

Alex

Whitney!

 

Scott

Whitney.

 

Not subtle at all. As soon as Morgan hears Alex say Whitney’s name she walks away from the huddle and towards the sink.  Scott quickly follows Morgan’s lead and heads to the sink as well. 

 

Alex

When do you think we’re getting our costumes?

 

Morgan

5 maybe?  

 

Shelby exits the WC and Alex enters.  Random chit chat ensues.  Shelby gets in the shower and the group quickly disperses.  If I’m Whitney there is no denying she has block virus and people are definitely stopping convos when I walk in the room.  When she came in the BA no one discussed anything with her, she stood there and brushed her hair for a moment and as everyone leaves all of a sudden she exits as well.

 

Jason/Justin/Kryssie have been in the KIT while this was going on making protein shakes and food.  Justin is making coffee as Morgan enters the KIT.  

 

 4:15 pm HNB

J/J/K

 

Jason

Do you think she will take Whitney down?

 

Justin

No

 

Jason

You don’t think we can persuade her to?

 

Justin

Maybe if you all convince her, but she’s not.

 

Jason

She told Whitney that she would do it right?

 

Kryssie

Yeah

 

Justin 

She did?

 

Jason

In the BA she told Whitney if she won she could take her down.

 

Justin

She said that?

 

k

Well, I don’t know if she told her that but she told her she was gonna throw it…

 

Jason

Right but she didn’t.

 

Justin

I think that’s dead Bo.  I think she’s gonna go home.

 

Jason

Not if we can convince her to use it. We only need 2 votes to vote out Scott.  It will be Whitney and America.  That’s two votes.

 

Justin

I went and asked Scott if him and Alex made a deal with her this week and they did.  So she’s gonna take him off the block.

 

-I find it perplexing that for a player who has had an amazing read on pretty much everything in the game that Dani chose to put Whitney OTB because she’s the only one that didn’t offer her a deal.  Yes, Shelby, Alex, Scott, and Morgan offered her deals.  But they all almost word for word said the same things to Danielle.  They have all made deals week after week and broken every single one of them.  Whitney is the only one in that group that hasn’t broken her word.  She either doesn’t say anything so she won’t have to lie or when she’s said something she cannot honor she maneuvers in such a way that she comes out of it with her word in tact.  Why would Dani think, ‘oh I need to put Whitney up because she didn’t come here and lie to my face?’  

 

Jason

Well, we need to make a better deal with her.  We need to let her know that if she wants to roll with them, then she loses all three of us. 

 

Justin thinks its a done deal and there’s nothing they can do.  Jason says they just need to let Dani know if she rolls with them this week the LNC is done with her and who is she even going to have to talk to?  They don’t talk to her. 

 

Justin is against this idea.  He’s acting defeated.   It’s not a good look.  His fear is if Jason does that she will be happy to go with them and it will just be the 3 of them against the world.  He doesn’t want to lose Whitney but he doesn’t think that approach will work and it puts them in worse situation if it backfires.  

 

Justin

We just gotta play it cool.  Our opinion, and what we say doesn’t matter (to Dani).

 

-True.  It’s all about how you present it to Dani in a way that makes sense to her.  Strong arming her isn’t the best approach but there is a way to explain it logically to her that Whitney is more malleable than Morgan and that Scott going home if they can’t flip Whitney is still a win, but flipping Whitney would be a major game changer.  

 

Yes!  Jason gets there.

 

Jason

She seemed like she was open to it. Just because Alex and Scott made a deal doesn’t mean anything.  Alex and Scott have been making a deal all over this house and breaking them.  Why can’t she do the same thing?

 

Justin

Because she knows that she can’t win HOH this week.

 

Jason

But us three can. If she saves Whitney then Whitney can and its 4 people playing versus 3 of them playing. If she saves Whitney, Whitney comes to our side.  Then its just A/S/M against 4 of us (in HOH). She showed that she isn’t loyal to us by making sh*t with them on the side.  So, why can’t we make her flip back to us (Dani).  If she’s that willing to flip in the first place she’ll be that willing to flip again. I believe she was listening to me this morning and willing to roll with it because after I talked with her this morning she went in the diary room and talked about it and they told her OMG make up your mind.

 

Jason tells Justin not to be defeated.  He says he says not defeated he just doesn’t have a lot of enthusiasm because he feels like sh*t.  Jason says he had lots of enthusiasm, last night about it and we knew it wasn’t going to be an easy road.  (This is referencing the long talk they all had with Whitney about her side throwing her UTB and Whitney finally talking crap about Alex and seemingly on board with rolling with the LNC. 11:30 pm Monday night HN that talk began and lasted for a couple hours.)

 

-Kryssie has been so quiet this whole time.  LF’s have finally figured out a way to get Kryssie to stop talking all the time. LOL.

 

Jason 

Pull some of your enthusiasm from last night and lets flip this b*tch.

 

Justin makes a valid observation in that Danielle is looking at this for her own game.  What’s best for her.  Jason sees that but points out…

 

Jason

Danielle is right about everything, but she does listen to game talk. She’s not as stubborn when it comes to that. This is the perfect opportunity to take Scott out without even meaning to, she doesn’t have a vote.  All we need is Whitney and America. Its the easiest its gonna be to get him out of here with all these people running around here.

 

Kryssie

We wont have the numbers to do this again.

 

Jason 

Exactly, thats why we have to take our shot now. We may never get another shot. Because they’re protected as a pair.

 

This breaks up as Jason tells the other pair he is going up to the HOH to take a shower and talk to Dani.

 

4:25 pm cam 2 HOHB

Jason/Dani

 

Jason enters HOH and Dani is in the shower. 

 

Jason shares the expressions on the others’ faces when she murdered that veto comp.  Focuses on stroking her ego which is effective because without any prompting Danielle says to Jason

I hate that I have to go back on my word.

 

Jason

To Scott?

 

Dani

Yeah

 

J

I know but I think it’s the smartest thing to do. 

 

D

I know

 

J

Then Whitney’s vote to Scott out with America will vote Scott out and it doesn’t matter what Alex does. That is the best game move in…if you’re in the finals you can say you got Scott out even if you didn’t nominate him that’s major.

 

D

Yeah 

 

J

I know that Whitney would make the deal to vote Scott out period.

 

D

Because I would save her?

 

J

Because you would be saving her. Then America is very likely voting Scott out, America  and Whitney vote Scott out and Alex votes one of them (girls) out, it makes them go Alex just voted us out WTF?  Whitney is not going to go back to them.  She feels very slated by them.

 

Dani 

Does she?

 

J

She is like F these people I can’t believe I bought their BS for so long. She’s pissed!

 

D

She told Justin that, or….?

 

J

Yeah.  We were in the HN room last night and Whitney was just airing her qualms about it.  Whitney is just done with them.  So, we will have the numbers if we get one of them out and Whitney is now ours. 

 

D

What if I don’t take Scott down and he stays now I am on his list. 

 

J

Whitney will not flip back to them. They don’t want Whitney out because they are worried about her end game.  They want her out because she’s the only one they don’t have brainwashed.  Whitney is the only one playing her won game. So they’re like, hold up, hold up.  They’ve had me, you, and Justin all brainwashed this week doing what they wanted. They’r like King and Queen, and like…..n n n n n NO.  We cannot be on the season that let these two run us like that. I know you’re a better gamer than that and so am I.  I’m like nah, nah, nah, nah, not happening on my watch.  No matter what kind of deal Alex and Scott could even twerk, it doesn’t matter because you’re not going to get their allegiance over each other.

 

Danielle the enter time has been saying yeah and agreeing with Jason finally she catches that innuendo and responds smoothly:

And really Alex didn’t make a deal with me.  It was mainly just Scott. 

 

J

It was mainly just Scott?

 

D

Yeah. Alex was just like me and you are the top female threats its not gonna benefit me for you to leave because everyone’s going to be coming for me. Basically like…

-That’s not true but there’s no weight or value in anything Alex says to anyone.  Dani caught the more important opportunity to make it seems as though she wasn’t making side deals with the duo just with Scott not to nominate him.  This was done smoothly and effortlessly and a great defensive move by Dani to attempt to dispel any impressions J may have about what was said.

 

J

So she’s saying oh I’m not gonna target you because everybody’s targeting me already so I need to leave you here.  That’s the same BS she sells me. 

 

D

That’s what she's been telling me

 

J

And she’s been telling all those girls that they need to come after me, you, and Justin and not Kryssie. 

 

D

hmmmm? 

 

J

Because they’re the least threatened of Kryssie.  That’s what Whitney was spilling last night.

 

D

Whitney told me…

 

J

Me and Justin, me and Justin, they’re trying to leave you for last but they want to take Kryssie to final three because they know they can beat her. They don’t think she’s a threat at all. Like not on my watch!  Not today Satan!

 

Danielle laughs hehehehehehe

 

Jason has been preparing to shower the entire time this convo is going on which also makes it appear less aggressive and more passive.  He’s not in her face like trying to sell this hard to her just back in forth convo as Dani finished her shower and he wanders around the BA getting ready to get in  himself now.  That’s a more effective way to manage Danielle and not put her on the defensive and make her feel like he’s shoving his agenda down her throat the way Kryssie felt when Neely and Jason sat in the HOH last week.  While that wasn’t really wither of their intentions in that convo with Kryssie it was the approach that made her feel that way (and her oversensitive nature anyway).  More often than not in this game even more so than traditional BB its not what you say its how you say it that determines how it is received. Now as the shower becomes discussion he gently eases off the gas pedal and smoothly turns the relaxed nature of the convo back to how she killed that comp yesterday and stroking her ego again.  After an exchange or two he turns the corner back to the discussion of the deals.

 

Jason

But yeah, F their deals they are going to screw them over next week anyway.  

 

D

yeah

 

-My only concern in Dani’s manner of response is the number of yeah’s.  She does make some of the points he is wanting her to get on her own which shows she’s thought about this in the same way Jason has, but….knowing BB there’s usually a cause to pause when you’re talking to someone and the majority of their replies are yeah.  Just something I picked up on that makes me a little less unsure whether this is really where Dani was headed going into the veto ceremony or if she was just prepared for Jason and the LNC to make this play and had a plan in place in advance.  She is that calculated and does have the ability to look at everyone’s potential moves and angles before they ever even come up with it on their own in creating a plan of attack in this game.  I hope she follows this move, I hope Whitney does flip and going to LNC this week it would shake this two sides up finally and start to push the games path all season out of its box but I am not completely sold.  

 

When Danielle decided to nominate W/S over W/M I was disappointed with her reasoning in doing so with regard to saying in her DR on the recap segment that Whitney was the only one that didn’t offer her a deal.  She is so much smarter than that!  She herself pointed out after the 1-1 convos with Plastics in the HOH that the blondies came up and said almost exactly word for word what the other said.  That was suspect and I think second guessing her gut instinct in the nomination choices was a mistake.  Scott leaving is a win although I agree Morgan leaving would be a far greater win overall.  Scott has the potential at some point when it comes down to him or Alex to act on the survival of the fittest mentality.  Morgan, being Alex’s sister (which no one knows and plays such a key part in accurately assessing the pecking order and level of loyalty at this point in the game) will ride for Alex the against anyone else oil the end.  While Scott has this creepy obsession with Alex and last week was spewing I just ant to get her further in this game, I would leave satisfied I made it to Halloween, blah blah hasn’t been present in the same level of intensity this week and I am not alone in observing this.  Whitney and Morgan have both discussed the small shift they’ve seen in Scott moving away from this position this week and focusing more on actions and talk that demonstrates to them that he is in fact looking out for his own game as well.

 

Scott and Morgan are the two most loyal to Alex in the game.  That’s a huge advantage to Alex over the other players.  Morgan, even more so than Scott.  Although staying aligned with Alex has clearly been Scott’s primary focus in furthering both of their chances of making it as far as possible together as they can.  What Scott doesn’t realize is that while initially the girls were on board with voting Whitney out if they had to choose one of their own once Scott became AN the chance of them keeping the girls in tact by eliminating Scott became a very relevant discussion among Morgan, Alex, and Shelby.  They’ve mistakenly made it obvious to Whitney they have distanced themselves just enough of her to feel it and that was a critical game error too early in the week.  Jason and Justin effectively planting seeds with Whitney that those girls are willing to cut you to stay together has now through so many small things being noticed by Whitney taken root and is a much stronger possibility they could actual pull Whitney to their side.  Whitney knows in her gut that if she stays OTB there is a chance she would go home and when it’s her own team voting to make that decision that’s a huge wake up call I’ve waited weeks for her to answer!  I wont get to excited because there’s always a chance if Whitney comes down and the girls sweet talk her enough and rally to vote out Scott she could decide again like last week to stay where she is, but I think things are primed much better this week due to the Plastics own actions to prompt her to make the jump!  

 

Jason continues pointing out that its hard to predict next week because we don’t know whats going to happen.  But stresses that if they get Whitney over to their side that improves their odds going into the HOH because now instead of it being 3 (J/J/K) against 4 (Plastics) it will be 4 (J/J/K/W) against their 3.  Thats better odds. He also plays into the idea Danielle presented in the safety speech was the Plastics have had this idea that Danielle doesn’t have any power this week we have all the power and if Whitney comes to them suddenly they don’t have the power Dani has all managed to take back all the power by saving Whitney and the LNC and Whitney no matter how Shelby decides to use her votes will be the ones controlling who goes home and how glorious it will be when they realize they are f*cked!  

 

Fast forward to Tuesday morning.

 

10:34 am cam 1/2 TKB

Shelby/Alex/Morgan

 

Morgan says how nice it was last night having a break from the game.  I know some LF’s were disappointed with the Halloween festivities as a whole, but I felt like it was actually nice not only for us but for them to take a step back and have a break from the game for everyone.  Ir’s always nice to see the house come together and just hang out in one group once a week.  It helps them in the long run too, just to have a moment int he week where they take the game face off and relax so they can come back to it and have a small reset to move ahead.  It’s also a nice break from the fandom insanity as well, which for some has taken a measure of enjoyment of the focus on BB.  While it wasn't some amazing event it was still an opportunity for everyone to just relax a bit and that seems to be needed in the BBOTT format.  LOL

 

Shelby

She’s not going to use it on me.

 

Alex

No.  She’s either going to take Scott down or not use it at all.

 

Shelby

Should I still go up and talk to her?  I know it’s a game and it’s pointless.  I’m basically going to go to try and see if she’s going to use it and we are going to find out in 2 hours anyway.

 

Alex

Yeah Idk.

 

Shelby

There’s nothing I can say to change her mind.

 

Alex

She’s already decided what she’s doing 

 

Morgan

I don’t think anything anyone says is going to sway her

 

Alex

Idk. I’m not talking to her because I know I wont but…

 

Shelby

I kinda like may do a just real quick one with her.  Just kinda like if there’s a good chance for it, like hey what are the chances of you using that sh*t on me? Zero?  Ok bye.

Ironically that’s just about what Scott does in a few minutes. LOL

 

-I guess none of these girls watched BB18 where Meech refused to go up to the HOH and talk to Nicole.  James and Natalie never went up and talked to Nicole making these same kind of comments which Nicole then turned around to James and said you guys didn’t even bother to come talk to me.

 

M

Just try to feel her out and see what she might do.  I doubt you’ll get much though.

 

-Morgan you should be up there talking to her as well.  If she does decide to take W/S down you are the likely replacement and you need to make an appearance and plead why you shouldn’t be put up again right before the veto ceremony.  All of these players on both teams have got to stop using this mentality in the game.  Well, they don’t talk to me and they won’t do what I want so why should I talk to them?  STOP THAT!  Someone has to be the bigger person at some point and see the value in at least trying.  Like it or not when your side doesn’t have HOH you have to go and try to find some basis for talking points and the Plastics side especially just refuses to engage with the other side unless it’s a final hour and they are trying to prevent game talk or gain intel at the last minute.  Social game may not be as important in many ways as traditional BB because America has had such a huge impact on the game but weeks like this where Whitney is in a bad spot her efforts to be the most liked and able to socialize and hang with everyone on a genuine level has offered her a great benefit this week.  One I have talked about for 5 weeks that the Plastics refusal to do will hurt both their short term and long term games and this week is a prime example yet again.

 

Even Danielle when the other side wasn’t bothering to come talk to her as HOH the first couple days.  Although she isn’t obligated it’s a better move to stay to them hey why don’t you come and talk to me for a minute and open the door than sit up there talking about the fact none of them have bothered to talk to me.  No, as HOH, it’s not reliant upon her to help the targets in the game but this has gotten so prevalent and she was so counting on this win finally opening the door to some game talk with the other side who literally iced her out the very first day in the house it could in fact benefit her game overall.  Leave your petty egos at the door and play the game in a way that helps you in the best way possible.  Just doing that could and likely would start a path that can be built upon and we have reached the midpoint of the season.

 

 

10:42 am HOH

K/D/Jason

Scott knocks and asks to talk to Danielle.

 

I don’t suppose I could talk to Danielle real quick?  I guess its fine if everyone’s still here.

 

Dani

It doesn’t matter to me it’s up to you whatever you feel comfortable with.

 

Scott

Ok. All right I just want to let you know Danielle that uh, if the POV isn’t used on me today I think I’m probably gonna go home. Because there’s only 3 votes and I think Morgan and America will both vote to evict me.

 

Dani

You think Morgan will side with that…

 

Jason

Why would Morgan do that?

 

Scott

Because she’s more loyal to the girls. 

 

Dani

Huh?  Ok

 

 

Scott

That’s all. Ok.

 

Dani

Alright. Thanks Scott.

 

Scott leaves.

 

Jason

Well, then that makes it even easier.

 

Dani

I don’t give a sh*t you’re going home. 

 

Jason

I’m like Morgan’s not even voting brush

 

Dani

mmm hmmm

 

 

Jason

But then is it safer if you put Alex up?  And then Morgan will vote him out with Whitney? And we don’t even depend on America?

 

Dani

Maybe.

 

Jason

Cause we know they wont vote out Alex.

 

Dani

Yeah, we know they wont vote out Alex.

 

Jason

I mean it’s whatever but…

 

Dani

I don’t even care

 

Jason

Leaving Alex off the block is a vote Scott will have. 

 

Dani

That’s true

 

Jason

Then he doesn’t have any votes (to save him). It’s a shot at her anyway.  It doesn’t really matter whichever way it goes. 

 

Dani 

So if we leave her off, Morgan goes up and she votes to evict either Morgan or Shelby.

 

Jason

Yep.  And Whitney will vote to evict Scott.  And hopefully America will vote to evict Scott. 

 

Dani

mmm hmmm. SO that creates more of a drift within the girls. 

 

Jason

Right cause then Morgan’s like Alex just evicted me.  That was the reason we were not putting Alex up.  If we consider Alex is not loyal to them over Scott.

 

Dani

If we put Alex up, we guarantee that all three votes go to Scott. That great vote wise, but it doesn't create more of a, Morgan will still be a vote to Alex.  Who knows if Alex knows that Scott is going home she might just vote for Scott anyway. There gonna try and make sure that Whitney won’t do that.  Alex is gonna work on Whitney.  Whitney can be just yeah no I wont’ be voting him out. And Alex might be putting her votes on Morgan and then Whitney will vote him out. 

 

10:54 am HOHBR cam 3/4 Kryssie and Jason hanging with Dani and making sure to keep these ideas fresh in her mind and preventing any of the other from getting in her ear by doing so.  HG are moving slow and BB had to make numerous wake up announcements after 10 am.  There have been knocks at the door and lounging around with Dani until it’s time for the veto is a very smart idea to make sure no one says anything that may derail the efforts you put in.  That’s if you believe Jason has really persuaded Dani to swap Whitney for Morgan which I am still not overconfident about!

 

Well, there you have it.  Many felt going into this week when Shelby managed to get the ACP this was a slam dunk week for the Plastics.  However, there are so many moving parts and differing agendas happening all at once it’s made it very difficult to pin down who we actually want to vote out until the veto ceremony happens.  All in all Scott being the AN was a smart move!  Shelby being a nominee so no matter who else is on the block she has to protect her individual game first.  Whitney going up shocked everyone especially Justin!  Between HN’s this week, already not being a big Danielle fan and his girl Whitney going OTB he’s had a rough week and we’ve seen it show up in his energy and inability to snap out of it completely.  He was also really down on himself for not coming up with that veto win which would have secured Whitney’s safety and having to rely on Danielle to pull her down is not a place where he feels at all comfortable.

 

Jason has played this week very well regardless of which way the pendulum swung from moment to moment.  He’s bartered, gotten his hands dirty planting seeds along with Justin and if they manage to pull off this flip with Whitney it is a game changer.

 

Alex has in many aspects as far as coming up with the same ideas looking at the options as Dani with Scott’s help.  Scott went from feeling like he was in the best position this week to being in the worst position this week, which is a much more traditional series of events in BB. 

 

Morgan has been far too complacent.  She has got to stop following Alex’s lead on everything and find her own game or she will be in danger very soon.  Alex may protect her to some degree but even she is realizing its getting to a point in the game where the thought of her sister outlasting her is going to become a front of the line concern and if Morgan happens to go up with no chance of coming down on her won it’s becoming more and more likely if this first fracture happens with Whitney that Alex will branch out on her won and make some new alliances to insulate herself and she can’t necessarily drag Morgan along.  Knowing that was just up ahead in the game as the halfway point approached Morgan voting out Neely may have been her biggest mistake yet.

 

Kryssie being on slop has given all of us some reprieve, I know she had a meltdown last night about her costume, the lack of nutrients is wearing her down, but the positive result has been that she’s been 1/2 as chatty and boisterous as usual and that was a nice reprieve that had me realizing I may not be far from being willing to vote Kryssie out pretty soon.  She, like Morgan doesn’t really have any other side deals in the works and is in the worse position in the game should this shift we’ve all be anticipating would happen, because it always does.  That’s where lack of game knowledge and the fandom genuinely being tired of listening to her all the time has set her up to leave very soon as well.  She may even gain the momentum of the Plastics fandom targeting her over Danielle next week based on this week plays out.  Danielle may be annoying with all her chatter, but its far less annoying than Kryssie’s because Danielle is actually one of, if not, the best, player in the game currently right now week 5.  She’s earned some stripes this week whether you’re an LNC or Plastics fans and by her own hands. 

 

An eviction night that sends Scott home by way of  Whitney flip to the dark side actually makes this a very productive week for both Danielle and the LNC as well as LNC fans!  It broke down the Plastics 4 girl alliance, eliminated 1 of the 5 people in a group that had the majority in pure numbers.  A fracture in the Plastics and the potential for new side things to develop will also fracture the Plastics’ fandom and that’s not good for the LNC its really good for the game.  We’ve reached a point that happens every season where the individual game becomes more relevant to the alliances as a whole.  

 

There will be plenty of fans that love Alex and want things to go her way and that’s ok.  However the enormous force in voting that was primarily concerned with keep an all girls alliance of those 4 players in tact now will fracture itself and as with both sides of fandom it becomes focused on which actual player you want to see stay and protected and not a huge group of followers united for a foursome.  That’s the greatest difference I’ve observed in LNC fandom the first few weeks.  It was more about the player you liked and different segments of the group liked different people.  So many voted accordingly.  It wasn’t until we saw the united voting on the other side of fandom putting our favorites on the LNC being in more danger than ever from that….then we finally voted together because winning the popular vote to protect the LNC as whole in order to preserve whichever single player you preferred.  There may be a couple more votes where that approach is required but very soon things will intermingle for the majority of the fandom as we see more a more game play and like players for the individual game play more than the we have to save an entire group in order to protect them.  We also know that the way things were headed Jason and more importantly Justin was going to be in danger very quickly and for them, a large portion of the LF’s community like them and don’t want to see them go and will vote in a majority to conserve their longevity in the game. 

 

That’s it for Halloween coverage, status updates and the morning of November 1.  I will be back later today with some updates and some voting details since the veto ceremony is just ahead.  If you are still committed to voting as a group, especially after what we were able to accomplish getting Scott up as America’s nom don’t cast your votes until you've checked a reliable LNC majority source or had a chance to read the later blog which will outline who is voting for whom and why!

 

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Veto Meeting results are in:

Danielle chose to use the veto on Whitney! 

 

The replacement nominee:
MORGAN

 

Let the celebratory dancing begin!

Ok-don't rush to a vote just yet. I've been searching sites to verify what Plastics fans are up to set up an eviction poll on Twitter. Once there is some kind of sense of the majority we will know if it's smarter to throw a vote to Morgan collectively as much as possible or to go ahead and pile the votes onto Scott!

 

Morgan is very upset and all 3 girls are trash talking Whitney for preserving her own game first. That's quite comical to me when you think about it. Not celebrating at Morgan's misery by any means but they have a lot of nerve being mad at Whitney when all 3 were ready to vote her out don't you think?  It's going to get interesting! 

 

Right now if you're a Plastics fan Scott has a lead in the polls but it's very early. 

 

I will return later this afternoon/early this evening with the best consensus possible so you can decide how you want to vote based on the Intel! 

 

As much as I think many LNC would love to break up the sisters we have to be smart so don't rush to the voting link just yet if you want to help preserve a majority vote and avoid a split!

 

In all sincerity for both sides of fandom the worse case scenario is Scoft leaves and no one will really cry over that result. Although LNC fans there's already a small momentum growing that may push the majority vote towards at least trying to break up the sisters. First shot anyone has had to do it and depending on how the polls and general chatter washes out I will share the results as soon as possible so hang tight! 

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Good Evening LF's!  Its been a glorious day of feeds for all to watch!  With Danielle's unexpected (by the Plastics) decision to remove Whitney from the block and select Morgan as the re-nom the house became a bundle of confusion and anxiety for the Plastics for the first time weeks!  Go watch the feeds from about 1:15 pm this afternoon and watch them do exactly what the misfits have been criticized for doing for weeks.  They initially discussed the first few days evicting Whitney if it had to be one of them to go this week.  As I blogged about, they were terrible at hiding what they were up to and it did not go unnoticed by anyone in the house. 

 

Jason/Justin quickly went to work on Whitney!  By Sunday night they had Whitney turning on her alliance who had so quickly elected to cut her loose and leave her packing her bags to go see Winston.  Then, Kryssie and Jason went to work on Danielle to convince her to pull Whitney off the block and put someone else up because Whitney was a sure vote for Scott and getting Scott out and pulling Whitney to their side was a far more strategic and beneficial move.  Alex and the other side NEVER saw that coming and it took all the wind out of their sails by 1:15 pm this afternoon you see them crumbling in the BA, then in the IWR.  Scott tries to convince Shelby that if she cancels Whitney's vote she may be able to save Scot and that's better for both Shelby and Alex's games. 

 

If you are a Plastics fan, this is terrible for the efforts to keep the all girls alliance in tact.  I also mentioned that giving the ACP this week to Shelby over Morgan was a terrible idea for your fandom.  Morgan was a better choice because she would use it to protect both herself and Alex.  But, in your desire to monopolize the voting and growing love for Shelby's sassiness you elected to vote in a way that wasn't the most strategic way.  Now Shelby is on the block and will protect Shelby.  With Morgan now OTB, your underestimation of Danielle and the Misfits after weeks and weeks of voting totally one sided its has backfired. 

 

I spent hours last night sharing ideas with some Misfit SM hey hitters and we agreed that if Morgan happen to be OTB it's in the Misfits and the games best interest to pile all of our votes on the sister, Morgan.  Now, don't get me wrong we would all on both sides of the house be happy with a Scott eviction.  It's good for everyone and a majority of Plastics' fans are in fact voting to evict Scott. So if you want to vote with your majority that is what you should do.  

 

I however, am not a #teamPlastics nor am I a fan of the voting war.  My thoughts yesterday were as follows:

 

If Morgan hits the block Misfits fans should collectively vote to evict Morgan.  If we had enough of the popular vote to do this here is what it could accomplish even though there are only two HG's voting this week:

 

1. Worse case two HG's vote Scott and Scott still goes home.  We are all okay with this outcome.

2. Voting Morgan as America's Eviction Vote throws a hinky vote that will cause chaos on the Plastics side of the house. Even if we don't get her evicted it's a good move.  Especially now that they are already going crazy with the unexpected moe by Dani and the suspicion that Whitney has flipped on them and gone to the other side.

-Now with all of that they are already really down to 4.

-When one of the Plastics leaves tomorrow no matter who it is they are down to 3

3. Shelby has discussed perhaps not cancelling all 3 of the LNC votes which could potentially create a chance one vote form a HG may get thrown to Morgan. It's a small chance but still this is BB and you must expect the unexpected. 

-Now with Whitney flipping on them to save herself there is a very small chance an LNC who Shelby allows to vote may by some random idea vote for Morgan.  If they do that's 1 vote to evict Scott (Alex), 1 LNC vote to evict Morgan +America's vote to evict Morgan.

-While not likely it's a risk and gamble I felt we should all take.

4. By making the America's Eviction Vote land on Morgan in the off chance one HG votes for her we could send her home and finally break up the sisters, dismantle the Plastics all girl alliance, and fracture the voting majority dominating the voting by Plastics fans. 

 

Why?

The four girl alliance has been under the protection of the dominant America vote for 3 weeks in a row now.  I understand they wanted to keep the all girls alliance together, however how they have gone about doing it has created an enormous split among fans almost equal to the split in the house.  If there is no longer a four girl alliance that fractures the fandom that has dominated all the voting going towards the common goal of protecting those four girls and Scott by association.  It has been hurting the LNC and creating a lot of frustration about the voting.  I warned this would backfire eventually and this is the week it has! 

 

By fracturing the Plastics the fandom may still have a desire to protect Alex.  If you are an Alex fan that's what you should want to do.  However, because you wanted to dominate the voting and make everything go their way for so many consecutive weeks you've now left them very vulnerable.  

Alex cannot receive an ACP.  

Scott cannot receive and ACP,

Shelby cannot receive an ACP.  

 

If Morgan goes there's no chance for her to get the ACP.  That leaves Whitney and 3 of the LNC eligible for the remaining ACP's. That helps the misfits and especially creates higher odds for Justin, Jason, and Danielle to finally get some heading into the last few available..

 

There are people, like myself that like players on both sides of the house.  The fandom war was forcing me to try and protect J/J because I knew this way of voting had the potential to hurt them further down the road and that had begun to happen. It's exactly the same logic that Jason and Danielle concluded on their own and as that has become more of a reality it's worked out very well for them.  Jason, Justin, and Danielle have worked their tails off this week despite one blow after another to their games by America's voting results.  They pulled off everything they set out to and it has been amazingly fun to watch unfold.  The lopsided voting actually lit a fire under them, while Alex and the Plastics failed to make Whitney feel safe and created a perfect storm.

 

If Morgan happens to go home that eliminates the sisters protecting each other.  Morgan will be 100% loyal to Alex as long as possible and has proven to be so.  As much as Scott loves declaring his undying loyalty to Alex, it fizzled out a bit this week when he suddenly felt very safe again and the girls did take note of it.  Scott's loyalty to Alex will never be as strong as Morgan's allegiance to Alex. Alex has been under America's protection, Scott's protection, and Morgan's protection for almost the entire game.  She will now have to play and play hard if she wants to stay in the game!  I'm all for that.

 

Also, if Morgan goes home after Whitney flips there are no more "Plastics".  It's dead and gone and the real game begins now!  We are at the halfway point and lots of shifts are going to happen and anyone that wants to make it to the end will be forced to play and play actively. One happened by itself this week with Justin planting seeds with Whitney over the past few weeks and all 3 (J/J/K) watering them plentifully this week. 

 

 If Scott goes home it's now just down to the three girls but if somehow Whitney floats back over there we are right back where we began but with some new suspicions, trust has been broken and the fire has been ignited to play your own game.  Were have to consider that could happen but based on the way the girls' reacted today the chances of that happening continue to decline.  

 

The LNC fans need to realize that even if the one America vote to evict Morgan doesn't send her home that's ok.  We shook up the game and the pieces will land and things will get very real very fast.  The realization that you cannot solely rely on America is a wake up call that the Plastics deserved as much as the misfits. 

 

My greater goal in this was that if by some miracle Morgan does get evicted that's the definite end of the Plastics and fans will begin to focus on the players and not the teams.  It removes the voting dominance and forces that fan base to look around the house at everyone and not be so blinded by the desire to keep an all girls alliance in tact at the expense of some other players who are player at least as good if not better games than some of the members of the Plastics.  That could be a win not only for the players but for the fans as well.

 

Right now if Alex and Whitney both are the votes left in play they will vote Scott out and that's an acceptable victory and loss any way you look at it for either side of the fandoms.  I think many LF's on either side of fandom are happy with that outcome.  But....If Shelby doesn't choose so carefully who is allowed to vote and 1 person votes Morgan with our America's vote on  Morgan she's out of the game, Alex loses a layer of protection that isn't being even really understood since they have been able to maintain the fact they are sisters a secret.  It also presents the biggest blindside of the season.  That's a wake up call for all the players remaining in the game. 

 

The other good news is Plastics fans to some degree you still get the glory you wanted.  There was still an all girls alliance that finally stayed together for a long time.  Just realize the lopsided voting was a reason it crumbled.  You prompted Danielle, Jason, and Justin to come out swinging this week and Danielle had the best HOH of the season.  She did a lot of great things, handled the power very well, and proved herself a force to be recognized in this game.

 

If Whitney does not float back over to the girls and stays on the other side as a result of all of this that is good for Justin especially, but the LNC in general going into week 6.  It improves their odds for winning another HOH and of receiving that final ACP's which are the most powerful of the season.  It prevented a 5 against 3 scenario where the Plastics had the upper hand and that's an outcome I would be thrilled with after weeks of being frustrated by the lopsided voting.

 

If you are a Plastics fan and you want to vote with the majority vote to evict Scott.

If you are a Misfits fan and you want to vote with the majority vote to evict Morgan.

 

Either way one of them goes home.  The Plastics took the hit Danielle hoped to achieve.  New alliances will shake out either way and all the remaining Plastics know they have to make some new friends fast and for the first time since week 2 the misfits are not at the greatest disadvantage in the game with the majority of that accomplishment being achieved on their own.

 

Remember voting is now open, get your votes in tonight and again tomorrow morning no matter who you decide to vote every vote counts. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Plastics-Eviction vote for Scott

 

LNC/Misfits-Morgan

 

Yes! Morgan! If the plan doesn't work it's ok Scott still goes home but this is the first chance fans have to separate the sisters and don't want to pass up the chance just in case 1 HG votes Morgan with ours she would go HOME! 

 

No more sisters protecting each other. No more Plastics, and it's a gamble we all want to take! If it doesn't work, we have nothing to lose Scott will still go home. 

 

Make sure whoever you are voting you vote today and tomorrow morning. 

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Tuesday shaped up to be an afternoon of karma for the Plastics.  For weeks when the LNC have been OTB, forced to choose between their own team, or saying good bye to friends. They have been criticized for being upset, crying, being emotional about the circumstances when it came down to the day before or actual day of eviction and all the while these girls kept asserting ‘it's a game, this is BB you have to lie, you have to break deals, why are you crying?’  Now that the tables have turned the Plastics side has been struck with the hand of reality and to no surprise they are reacting just as the LNC has, like humans with real emotions, frustrations, disappointment, and the reality of the fact that they are not untouchable. In reality this actually could benefit every person left in the game at this point.  Regardless of which team you have been behind these is an individual game in the end.  Only one person can win and while alliances are one element that helps propel players and protect them it’s now the half way point and the voting creating a dynamic that had things so focused on the divide everyone realized in the end they have to do what is going to keep them safe above all things. 

 

After a few minutes of random chit chat following the veto ceremony Morgan heads off the BA and Shelby and Alex head into the TKB.

 

1:13 pm TKB Alex/Shelby cam 3/4

Alex

I guaranteed she did it to save herself.

 

Shelby

Yeah, probably…Bye Scott.

 

Shelby heads into the BA where Morgan is in the WC, followed by Scott and Alex soon after.

 

BA cam 3/4

Morgan sits on the bench in the BA and begin crying.

 

Alex

Hey, you’re fine.

 

Morgan

I don’t think I am.

 

Alex 

Guess what America is voting Scott

 

Morgan

Then why did she do that?

 

Alex

Whitney’s flipped agains us

 

Morgan

It’s ridiculous

 

Alex

Yep, she flipped them

Morgan

I don’t know why I am sad, I shouldn’t be upset

 

Alex

No, it’s fine, it’s fine.  Just know that we can’t trust her.

 

Shelby

Our only choice is to get out Scott his week.  We have to win.  We said we were going to trust each other this week and now we literally only have each other.

 

Morgan 

We literally only have each other.

 

Shelby

We went from like 5-3 to 3-5 like that!

 

Alex

Yeah

 

Morgan

I kind want to go talk to Danielle and be like I just want to know the reasoning behind it.

 

Alex

You should get whatever information from her you can.

 

-LOL but two hours ago you all were int he TKB saying how you have no reason to go talk to Danielle and why bother?  

 

Morgan

I’m gonna ask her later

 

Shelby

Whitney’s not gonna be dumb enough to vote you out though.

 

Morgan

No

 

Alex

She’s not.  Scott’s gonna get the America vote

 

-Not if misfit fans have anything to do about it.  This is why I felt like Sunday night after the safety ceremony that if Whitney comes down we should all vote Morgan.  Plastics fans will vote Scott and we are all happy with a Scott eviction.  From a strategic point of view I knew that’s what they and the actual Plastics would count on.  I have also watched Shelby become more and more disenchanted with Scott and the entire reason Danielle put Shelby OYB was to ensure she had to use the votes to protect herself first.  By throwing a vote Morgan’s way if for some reason paranoia sets in on Shelby and she eliminates Whitney’s vote and allows any one of the LNC to vote and by some miracle they decide to vote Morgan for whatever reason an America eviction vote would allow fans to take the one shot we’ve had had reading up the sisters and breaking up the Plastics.  It’s a long shot but this is BB and sometimes you have to roll the dice with a big risky move.  Even if a HG doesn’t throw a vote Morgan’s way evicting her with our vote it throws a hunky vote in the eviction that will rock the house.  They are relying so hard on the predictability of the America’s vote week after week it’s a game move from the outside that will be a blindside if misfit fans had enough momentum early into to voting to make it happen.  This is the perfect week to do this!  If we fail it’s still a win!  Scott goes home the numbers are even in the house even if Whitney continues to try and ride with the girls but it accomplishes Danielle’s goal of creating some doubt within the girls and make them begin to turn on each other.  

 

Morgan

Hopefully

 

Shelby

She knows the last thing she should be doing is burning bridges.

 

-LOL oh I can’t tell you how much that made me laugh to hear Shelby and the Plastics saying that after 5 weeks of burning bridges or failing to build them in the first place.  The entire reason they wanted Whitney to go from their group is because Whitney is the only one of them that has a bridge to the other side of the house. 

 

Morgan

Yeah

 

And with perfect timing Whitney enters the BA

 

Alex

Hey

 

Morgan

OMG are you surprised?

 

Whitney

Yeah.  I didn’t know that was gonna happen.  But I mean it doesn’t matter.

 

-Very well played by Whitney.  The girls have been telling her all week they would vote out America’s nom, all the while discussing voting out Whitney if AN’s wasn’t one of the LNC.  Then when Scott went up they all told her they will just vote Scott out.  Meanwhile they played with the choice between Whitney and Scott and ultimately decided keeping the four girls together was better.  Whitney picked up on this, the other LNC players whispered in her ear they were throwing her UTB and that she was the low hanging fruit as far as the Plastics were concerned and more loyal to each other than her.  Remember Justin asked Whitney early in the week who she was closest to on her team and Whitney said Alex.  Whitney just the day before this veto ceremony said to Alex you realize you are the one I am closest to out of our group and who I trust the most.  Alex’s reaction fell flat and that was all Whitney needed to confirm what Justin, Jason, and Kryssie were telling her was true.  She couldn’t rely on the girls to vote out Scott if Whitney was OTB and that was the turning point for her.

 

 

Shelby

You’re going to vote out Scott right?

 

-Mistake again.  You re questioning her loyalty again?  Wasn’t the plan all along to vote out Scott?  Why should this even be a question if there was no other plan? If you aren’t questioning Whitney’s loyalty to your team you would never have asked that question the way you just did.  You can see Alex behind Whitney when Shelby says that (cam3) with her hand over her mouth like oh crap!  

 

Whitney

Yeah. 

 

Shelby

You think maybe he was her target all along and she was just BS’ing all of us?

 

Now you can see Alex wiping tears from under her glasses.

 

Morgan

No, I don’t think so.

 

Whitney

I think her speech was kinda weird, cause why would she be in defense mode? But you know when I talked to her before she nominated me, I honestly didn’t think I was gonna go up. And so I feel like she was pressured by someone to put me up. 

 

Morgan

Yeah

 

Whitney

IDK maybe even Scott.

 

Alex

Why would she, it like doesn’t make sense, like, she just got extra blood on her hands…

 

Whitney

Well, maybe Scott wanted me up but when he was AN she was like had a different reaction about it or something. But it doesn’t matter.

 

Morgan

No 

 

Shelby

So you guys vote out Scott

 

Alex

I am. Just how she did it was really weird. 

 

Shelby

I thought she wanted to split us up this week.

Alex

That’s why I, she did it so weird. Just how everything happened was just not what I was expecting at all. 

 

-Yes, that’s clear but his entire convo and you shouldn’t be reacting this way and drilling Whitney if you want her to believe that the change doesn’t effect your plans to begin with.  

 

Whitney

But then like the only thing she told me before was whoever gets AN I am bringing them down. She didn’t do that so? It’s weird.

 

The truth of the matter is, the girls were ready and had talked in advance that if they had to send one of their own team members home it was best for them to let Whitney go.  This was a good play in that they talked about and made a collective decision at the beginning of this week and they tried to make it happen on their terms the same way the LNC had when it was three of their own OTB week 3.  The problem with heir game play is things have been given to them so easily and they have relied so much on America they were not prepared in advance of this week to make a decision like this.  They haven’t spent much timer effort planning ahead everything has been in the moment.  I rarely hear them talk about the coming weeks.  It’s a very fly by the seat of your pants and hope America does what they ask.  I can identify two differences in how the two teams approached this possibility. First, the LNC talked about this potential the week before (week 2) and were prepared for it before it became a reality (week 3).  The voting had the Plastics so confident it was preventing them from being as concerned as you always should be in this game.  We’ve seen in BBOTT as most BB seasons anyone can go from the top to the bottom in just moments. The LNC despite voting benefiting their game the first two weeks discussed in week 2 that can’t continue and it will change so don’t rely on America. Jason and Neely were very vocal about this despite Danielle letting it go to her head on her own, as a collective group that thought was always in the back of their minds. This allowed LNC to have a plan in place and not alienate Danielle although they preferred to lose her over Shane, like America that week.  

 

Alex especially, I mentioned early in the week, was making subtle yet telling comments that had I been Whitney I would have picked up on and began to question my alliances loyalty as well.  I blogged about this early in the week as things kept happening and said I hope that Whitney is paying attention.  Scott made the same types of mistakes in front of Shelby.  You never know what is going to happen until eviction night arrives and the vote counts are read and that’s something as a player you have to always keep in mind. You also cannot be so focused on the current week that you are blinded to how a decision now may impact the week or weeks that follow.    You see in Alex’s DR this evening she was completely blindsided by the change in nominations as were the other girls.  That shake up led them to make a few more telling mistakes that confirm to Whitney she made the right decision.  Whitney tells us in her DR that she has to protect her own gam first and foremost.  She was afraid the girls may vote her out and while she is loyal to the team she wont sacrifice her own game as an element of that loyalty.  Good job Whitney!  Play your own game.  Alex has been doing that the entire time and Whitney also shares she knows that Alex is the biggest threat to her game.  She wants to stick with the Plastics but not at the detriment of her own game.  She knows Alex will come for her and she will likely need to come for Alex first but isn’t ready to do that yet.  Saving herself this week was necessary and will ride with the Plastics as long as she can until the right time and situation presents itself. 

 

The replacement of Whitney for Morgan completely blindsided the Plastics.  In fact just before the ceremony Alex, Morgan, and Shelby all sat in the TKB discussing there’s no point in talking to Dani again, they can’t change her mind, she’s going to take Scott down or leave the noms the same.  This attitude all week long is what allowed for such a blindside to happen.  When the dust settles who do they blame?  Whitney. They blame Whitney for making some kind of deal to save herself and how dare she turn on her team?  How dare she play to save her own BB life?  While I found no pleasure in watching Morgan cry, I did enjoy the fact that as the time passes in the hours after the renomination we all get to see the Plastics do the exact same thing they have criticized everyone else for doing all season long. Since they hadn’t anticipated this was a possibility to left them reeling which lead them all to continue to sat and react in a way that they hadn’t planned for only confirming to Whitney they had in fact at the very least considered sending her home.  You can tell by Whitney’s initial reaction in the bathroom when she says,it doesn’t matter since we are voting Scott out.

 

1:35 pm IWR cam 3/4

Scott/Whitney

Scott says I hope you girls make it sarin this game together.  If I am at home watching you guys I want to see you four make it to the end. 

 

1:43 pm cam 3/4

Alex/Shelby/Morgan after leaving the IWR

 

Alex

It sicks but he had to basically sell us out.

 

Morgan

I’m upset because of that, I was just upset because I was not expecting it.

 

Alex

I was surprised she didn’t just put me up.  She has to now we aren’t going to evict you.

 

Shelby

Maybe she wants you to be in that uncomfortable position where you have to vote out Scott.

 

Alex

He’s already come to me

 

Shelby

He asked me to take away Whitney’s vote 

 

Morgan 

Seriously?

 

Shelby

I was like, um I’m OTB too.  Like I need to do what keeps me safe.

 

-Yes, that’s exactly why you are on the block which you thank America for later tonight in your DR.

Alex

I’m voting for Scott no matter what, so regardless I have the vote.

 

Shelby

He keeps doing these awkward obituary speeches.  I can’t sit there and listen to it.  Now he’s in there with Whitney, should we be breaking that up?

-YES!  Yes, you should.  Why are you leaving the one guy who could talk his way around anything including you alone with the only other vote you are allowing to count this week?

 

Alex

It doesn’t matter because I am voting Scott and America will vote Scott out so…

 

Shelby 

Hopefully America does.

 

Morgan

I do want to talk to Danielle.

 

Alex

Yeah you need to figure out why she did that.

-Again the irony intros is that 2 hours ago they were all sitting around saying they don’t need to bother talking Danielle because she’s definitely taking Scot down, which means you were ready to vote Whitney out.  You said there are two hours until you know for sure anyway and there’s no point talking to her because she’s stubborn and won’t listen no way she was going to change her mind.  Alex said either she’s taking Scott down or leaving Scott up. They never considered any other option and could have no sense that maybe something hinky was going on when you talked to her because you didn’t bother.  These are the careless kinds of moves that leave me shaking my head.  If Alex had been the one on the block we all know she would have been up there but when it’s anyone else in her group she’s very careless with actions.  

 

Alex

Whitney would have had to promise Danielle something big. She would vote with them next week so they have the numbers, or Whitney is going to use her ACP.

 

Once again assuming America must be giving only them all the ACP’s and Whitney and Morgan are guaranteed 2/3 ACP’s.  This is where their fandoms actions have actually hurt their games.  Go back and read the earlier blogs the first two weeks where I explained America cannot vote one sided all the time.  It’s smarter to mix it up so they don’t assume or get cocky.  Which is what happened with Danielle and really turned fans off of her.  Although those first  two weeks weren’t meant strictly to help the LNC, it was more eliminating characters we didn’t like or couldn’t stand on the feeds and wasting the first couple of ACP’s on players that were not fan favorites reserving the better ACP’s for those much later in the game to avoid what happened in BB18 where the last 2 went to people just because there was no one we liked left to choose from.  The last one for Corey only ended up there because votes were split between Paul/Victor leaving Corey with just a slight advantage in percentages over both of them.

 

Morgan

That’s it, that had to be it, she promised to use her ACP to help them.  

 

Shelby

Or both 

 

Alex

I know I can’t be mad at her because I know she’s saving herself because she knew she was in trouble. 

 

Morgan

Yeah you can’t be mad at her. 

 

Alex

I feel like the other side has turned her against me personally. 

 

Morgan

That sounds weird.

 

Shelby 

So we have to start filtering.  She only gets the unimportant information. 

 

Alex

She’s not getting a word, she has broken the alliance. 

 

-Really?  You may need to think that over.  You rallied for Morgan to not go OTB.  You made a deal to save yourself.  You never told Whitney, don’t worry we will keep you safe.  You all decided to go ahead and vote her out.  So who broke the alliance? 

 

Morgan

I agree

 

Shelby

We have to act pumped that we do get to stay together. 

-Well, that took you 45 minutes to realize! You’ve already acted like your entire plan was blown by Whitney coming off the block. LOL

 

Morgan

Right but that sucks because I am not frikin’ pumped. I mean I know that things are ok, it was a shock because we are like, I was honestly just expecting Scott to stay. 

 

Alex

When she came in here this morning and I saw have you talked to Danielle this morning she said ‘No, not really.’  She was very calm, that’s when I knew, somethings going on.  I just knew it.

 

-Yes, now tell the 2 you have left on your side that you suspected something was up and didn’t tell them.  In fact you assured them there was no point in going upstairs and talking to Dani.  Oh, poor Alex.  She’s great at getting her soldiers to do things for her when she thinks about what she wants.  That’s not enough.  It’s these exact kind of comments she makes all the time that made Whitney hesitant and easily flipped.   I will say this is where Shelby is beginning to grow on me.  She doesn’t miss these types of comments and almost always says, wait so….and calls people out when hey say things like this without filtering!  

 

Alex

What I didn’t like was in the BA this morning when she just basically like the lie that she was saying was so blatantly obvious.

 

Shelby

What after veto?

 

Morgan 

After the veto?

 

Alex

Yeah when we were in the bathroom and she acted like she had no idea what was going on.  I was like this was so obvious!  You know exactly what was going on.  Don’t even…

 

Morgan

Right. Even just like the look on her face.  I was like, I can tell you’re lying.  You’re not doing a good job at all.

 

Shelby

Now it sucks because now it’s we (Alex/Morgan/Shelby) not we (4 Plastics), now WE have to win HOH without her and we don’t even have the numbers if we win HOH.  We would need the package. That puts her against us.

 

Alex

We don’t give up.

 

Morgan

I feel so awkward now. 

 

Alex

Around her?

 

Morgan

Yeah. I know she 100% threw me UTB. Which, I mea it’s the game but still it’s make you feel so awkward. 

 

-I love the different tone in Morgan’s ‘yeahs” when someone says something that is not good for her and all about them.  Which is usually Alex but she used to duo it when Monte was still around as well.  Alex, like Danielle for those who aren’t putting her under the same microscope you are Danielle, always brings everything back to her, how it makes her look, how people are giving her credit, hows it makes her game seem a certain way.  Again, she can’t continue to make statements like this all the time it makes people question your commitment to the alliance.  We all know this is a single player game but when you’re with other people you just can’t constantly be discussing how it effects YOUR game.  

 

Some of the beauty in Danielle making this move is that Morgan told Alex early in the week that she has thought about the fact that there’s coming a time when she knows she may have to take Alex out of the game.  Alex told her she would unfriend her on FB and delete her number from her phone.  Then just a couple days ago they had this same convo in reverse and Alex to said the same type of thing to Morgan that she, Alex, is going to have to send her sister home soon.  

 

Alex says that Scott was running around always talking like it was he and she to the end like they had some final 2 deal and we never made that deal. 

 

Fast Forward to 2 pm

All four girls laying around in complete silence.  Shelby asks Alex if she’s going to tell him?

 

In front of Whitney they discuss whether they are now going to tell Scott he’s the one leaving.  Shelby brings up that he has already asked her to use votes to save him.  We knew he though he had a really good shot at staying and look how he acted.  (This is a discussion girls had earlier in the week which also indicated to Whitney that she was going to be the one they decided to vote out!)  What happened to making sure she felt secure in the group with the girls?  LOL

 

Whitney

Now that he knows he is going I am scared what he’s capable of. 

 

Shelby (I am enjoying watching her pay such close attention to cues from others and acting to it immediately).

I think he forgets that we were the four girls together and he was an add on.  He wasn’t a part of the original 4. 

 

Whitney

When I get pulled into a room with him I get asked if he is just the wing man to the alliance.

And that’s why I even asked you guys that the other day when we were outside. Was he just our wingman?  Because I was never in an alliance with him.  I never even trusted him completely.

 

Alex

Yeah

 

Shelby

He said to me I think America would vote out Whitney over me. I was like why do you think that?  I don’t think that.

 

Morgan

If anything, that just doesn’t make sense to me.  He’s yet too….We've saved him but he’s yet to do anything for us.

 

Morgan says she needs water and finds Danielle int he KIT and asks if she can talk to her real quick.  AS soon as they enter, there’s no small talk or compliments this time.  

 

I just wanted to pick your head because I felt good after our conversation.

 

Dani

uh huh

 

Morgan 

The flip just like surprised me.  But I know you have reasons for everything so I just wanted to see, I mean you don’t have to tell me anything but…obviously, like the deal that I offered you still if I’m not a target I would still like to keep that deal and not target you if I get HOH and I want you around this game. 

 

Danielle

I kept you off the block initially because I did like what you brought to me.  I was playing a very defensive game because I didn’t know how AN was gonna go…that way if AN was one of us (misfits) I kinda had a bargaining chip. That’s why I left you off the block.  That way I had the option of ‘if you save one of us then I will do this for you’. (What she’s saying is if a misfit had been AN she could offer that deal to Whitney, don’t vote our person out and I will take you down with the veto or replace you.) I didn’t want to use you as that.  That’s why I left you off the block.   After I found out who AN it shifted and I wasn’t playing defensively to playing offensively.  At the beginning of the week I told Scott if he was AN I would take him down.  Knowing that America handed him to me wrapped up tight with a bow…I didn’t want to take him down and have America mad at me for not taking him out.  (Kinda like Scott did wk 3 when America handed him Danielle and he got Shane out instead.) 

 

Danielle goes on to explain that from the outside looking in she thinks that Alex and Morgan are far closer to each other than Alex and Whitney are.  By pulling her down and putting you up it was just me making are that the 2 votes that are going to count go to Scott.  The fear being if A,ex decided to take out Whitney Morgan would do what Alex wants also.

-This is all true.  It’s true she thought that, it’s true it played a roll in taking Whitney down.  She doesn’t tell Morgan that she has Whitney’s promise to take Scott out this week but the explanation is worded and explained in a very well thought out way to explain the logic and assure Morgan that she is not Dani’s target.  Morgan says as long as she’s not the target that makes sense to her, she can understand that and their deal is still good.  Morgan thanks her for explaining that to her. She doesn’t tell anyone that it was Jason who flipped her from getting one of the girls out and working Whitney to ensure she would vote Scott out.  That Jason was the one who hatched the entire plan and made sure Whitney was primed by the actions Justin has been putting in play over the last couple of weeks.  

 

2:07 pm Shelby/Alex TKB

 

Alex and Shelby are still discussing if they are voting Scott out.  All the things Scott has said and done to persuade Shelby house the votes to make sure he stays. Alex tells Shelby that she guarantees it was Jason that got Danielle to put Whitney up on the block.  Then Whitney probably made a deal and he probably took anything I said and twisted it around to make Whitney believe we were against her getting her to agree to vote how they want or use her ACP to help them.  Then Jason got Danielle to take Whitney down.  

 

Shelby

Morgan, I mean not that it was ever a risk, but Morgan is definitely with us.  

 

Alex

It’s us 3

 

Shelby

It always was but…

Alex

It’s funny yesterday when we were talking and I was thinking we need to get in tight with someone not hat side of the house and I was thinking it was Jason but now…

 

Shelby

NO! NO, definitely not.

 

Alex says she see how Jason could be taking things and twisting them completely and now that Whitney has flipped I can see how he can completely make that happen. 

 

Shelby

And Kryssie and Justin both have deals with her.  (Whitney) I tried to kind work something with Danielle and she wasn’t willing to talk. (That’s not true she tried to work something with Dani for herself and they both talked about working on their opposite sides protecting to each other because Shelby would like to get to the end with Danielle.)

So the only way we can get any leverage to get anyone to talk to us is to win HOH.  So we can like plan things, but we can’t do anything until HOH.  Shelby also makes sure to tell Alex they have to keep pretending around Whitney and make her feel like she’s still a part of us.

 

After the convo with Danielle, Morgan returns to the room with the girls where they say Danielle is lying.  How Jason is behind flipping Whitney and getting Danielle to put Morgan up.  They tear apart and twist and bash saying everything Danielle was saying to Morgan was a lie. 

 

11:30 pm UKB

Scott, Alex, Shelby, Morgan

Alex has asked Scott to call Jason out when he goes home on eviction night to try and help her.  By this time Scot that resolved to going home and told Alex its ok for her to vote him out.  Remember when they were all so disgusted by Shane and Neely doing this when they left and said how they would NEVER go out like that?  Well, now they are all asking Scott to say things they want him to say and call Jason out to make him look bad in front of everyone.

 

Fast Forward to Eviction Night

11/2/16

Shelby cancels all the LNC votes.

Alex votes to evict Scott

Whitney votes to evict Scott

 

Danielle announces that Scott has been evicted 3-0-0.  America’s vote went to Scott.  

That’s actually good for both sides in many respects.  Yes, I know that Plastics lose a number but Scott was drawing a lot of attention to Alex with all of his undying devotion.  The teams re now even once again but that will change soon enough.  

 

Scott doesn’t call anyone out.  He is gracious and says good bye and exits with his head held high.  I was actually a little impressed.  

 

 

11/2 8:15 pm

HG’s are changing and preparing for the HOH competition in their workout clothes.  

 

The polls were neck and neck down to the last minute.  So Misfit fans gave it a very good run!  Who in the world voted for Shelby?  Polls showed 2-% of votes were going to evict her over Scott and Morgan.  LOL.  It’s not a loss, no one flipped so not like we missed a shot.  The only thing we failed to achieve was throwing a hunky vote that caused some dissension in the house and put some fear in the sisters.  That’s OK as long as Morgan doesn’t win HOH we can all vote for one of them to be the AN.  

 

There are some things to keep in mind as we await the new HOH.  This week’s ACP is the CO-HOH.  We have to be very careful who we give it to because that person along with whoever actually wins HOH tonight is at a huge disadvantage the following week,  Week 7 is double eviction, the HG’s don’t know that.  Misfits fans do not want any of our players on slop this week.  Not even Danielle with the intent to keep her humble after a great week as HOH.  They all need all their strength and faculties to be in prime condition to fight for that DE HOH.  We cannot allow Danielle or Jason to be HN’s this week.  It weakens them and if they’re not HOH you can guarantee the Plastics fans will try to get them on HN’s to save their girls.  Justin and Kryssie can’t be HN since they are the current ones.  

 

If a misfit wins this HOH we also need to save the wk 7 DE ACP for that player since they will be very vulnerable!  Week 7’s ACP is the DE veto.  They are guaranteed the veto that week and cannot be evicted if they are nominated because they can use it on themselves.  Also, as long as any misfit has it and they aren’t nominated they can save someone else on their team with it.

 

The winner of HOH tonight and the winner or this week’s CO-HOH ACP can’t compete in the DE HOH.  Remember Meech and Natalie having to sit out of that wall comp where Victor won his way back into the game after they just got him out.  Then James throws it to Nicole not realizing she’s now against him.  If a misfit wins HOH that is the misfit that will need that DE veto ACP.   He/She will need that ACP to keep themselves safe.  

 

I know many people have already decided in their mind who they want to vote but it’s still imperative to be very strategic and vote together to ensure Jason/Justin/Dani do get it the next 3 weeks.  If we don’t vote as a majority and we split votes then we guarantee either Morgan or Whitney gets it.  There’s no point in saving anyone specific you love the most for the last ACP if they can’t make it to week 8!  We have to think ahead when making decisions in the current week.  Every move at this point in the game can make or break the misfits.  The Plastics may have dominated the last three ACP and America Nominee votes but now that we are voting together and making sure to vote on every poll to keep them from knowing exactly what is happening we have a much better chance to ensure holding off on the ACP’s longer was to the misfits advantage.  Alex and Shelby cannot get another one.  Kryssie cannot get one either and people have to be willing to sacrifice her if the situation arises.  For now, she’s a number but she is not high in popularity and if we have to in order to get one of the ones we want to the end then we have to.  However, we don’t want to just give her up easily.  Jason/Justin/Dani odds of beating Kryssie at the end are much better against Kryssie than Shelby or Alex.  Like I said easy on, every action has a consequence.  Plastics fans jumped quickly to protect Alex and now she’s more vulnerable when things get very real in the game.  Let’s not make the same mistake.

 

I say these things just to make sure everyone is thinking strategically and not emotionally.  I’m no casual and think in detail about the various scenarios and how many different side effects every move can have.  I can’t possible predict every single one but I do sit back and run the odds, consider the benefits versus the rewards.  The one thing I am sure of is we need to get one of the sisters out of the game.  No one left can possibly consider that Morgan/Alex are related and how that ties them in a way that needs to be considered when making decisions.  That goes for Shelby and Whitney as well as the misfits.  If they knew that they would go about many things very differently.  Like a showmance those two will continue to ride together, vote together and sacrifice others they are aligned with just to protect each other.  No one can anticipate that since no one knows.  I give them A LOT of credit for being able to manage the others and themselves in a way that has kept that a secret.  Bravo.  But now we are entering week 6 and its a HUGE disadvantage for other players in the game as well as a huge advantage for those two.  If the situation this week allows we need to make sure that one of them is the AN!  Morgan is still eligible for an ACP so if she doesn’t get it this week she’s a bugger target.  I hate to say that!  I really thought she would play such a great game but for her aligning with Alex has weakened her abilities.  She’s let Alex run her entire game and it’s been a great advantage for Alex.  Scott is gone and she still has Morgan.  

 

Take out Morgan and Alex and Shelby are gong to need to find their own way to the end.  They may or may not stick together but I think its more likely that Shelby makes a deal or side alliance with one of those two she is in a much better position to do so after Morgan is gone than Alex is.  If I were in that position as one of them if/when that happens they should agree to each go latch onto one or two on the other side.  Then keep working together in secret.  But it would literally take not letting anyone else know they are still down with each other.  It’s the same method the LNC implemented early on in week 2.  When Fantastic Four was formed with J/J/K/Neely they decided as a group to try and make friends with at least one other person so they always had as much information as possible and they reported everything back to each other.  It worked well for a couple weeks until Neely went out on America’s nomination.  The people on the other side they couldn’t or didn’t make a personal connection with they had Shane week 3 reporting back everything about Monte/Scott.  Alex and Shelby were the only ones they didn’t have direct information coming from but they had so much from the other by their connections to those two it was enough.  

 

For now, we need to focus on keeping the misfits off HN status to give them the best chance possible in the double eviction week that follows this one.  Once the week gets under way be sure to check a reliable source, preferably multiple to make sure misfit fans vote together and avoid splitting votes and handing things over to the other side’s benefit.  As always I will keep both sides informed of the majority.  Well, maybe we are getting down to the end.  LOL

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When the Impossible Happens

 

Well, LF's this is beginning of Week 6 coverage with live feed updates following Shelby's win for HOH.  This mornings blog covers discussions and strategic asessments of the current game as well as important points to consider looking ahead.  HOH/CO-HOH and popular voting results.  Last night shocked both HG's and fans and creates a scenario where the numbers advantage of the misfits could mean absolutely nothing by the end of the week.  I love this game!  As mush as I hate that Shelby won, it was an amazing accomplishment and of the three Plastics, if one had to win she is actually the best of the three to have the power this week.  If Alex or Morgan won, Alex would be in control of that HOH 100%.  

 

Last night's face morph HOH competition shocked the entire BBOTT collectively!  Shelby played the comp with a win in 3:42.  Whitney timed out as the first one to play.  Alex cam in at 27+ minutes.  Kryssie lost as well. Morgan came close to Shelby's time but timed out trying to beat 3:42 as did Jason, and Justin was a hot mess not realizing he needed to put two names for each Morphed face. 

 

Shelby is now the new HOH.  This means that the winner of the ACP this week is critical.  Currently in polls across the board Whitney and Jason are neck and neck.  Some misfits had the idea to give it to Whitney to improve chances the last two ACP's go to one of the misfits.  They also are under the delusional assumption a Whitney ACP is a victory for misfits.  IT IS NOT!  Whitney is protecting Whitney first and foremost, as she should.  

 

11/3 12: 28 am cam 3/4 Justin is 100% sure Shelby will target him.

 

Justin says his worse nightmare just came true.  He is mind blown that Shelby of all people won that comp.  He asserts no one is safe this week and he is guaranteed to be a nominee.

 

Jason is also aware says they need to ACP this week.  Jason shares Justin's own sentiment that this is the worse case scenario.  

 

Justin

I gotta win the veto if I do get put up.

 

Jason

Me too. 

 

Jason rejoins the group in the KIT where most are eating. 

 

Justin

I absolutely can't stand her and she wins HOH, OMG terrible.  

 

12:33 am BA 

Whitney joins Justin after lingering with the girls in an attempt to seem a part of the group.  She's going to need to work much harder on this smoke screen if that's what it is because the first thing Shelby noticed when the comp was over and she was named the new HOH is that Whitney didn't even come and hug her.  Shelby said she had to go and hug Whitney and that Whitney didn't even hug her back. 

 

Whitney

I am gonna do whatever I can to protect you

 

Justin

I know

 

Whitney

Well, I'm gonna save you above anyone else.  I'm gonna do whatever I can to...

 

12:40 am

Whitney

She may not even put you up.

 

Justin

Well who is she gonna put up? She's gonna put up me and Danielle. 

 

-In all honesty from a strategic perspective nominating Justin is a smart move by Shelby this week.  She knows she can't beat him at the end.  She also has to know if she can get him out it is far more likely that they can lure Whitney back to her side to give her a better advantage going into next week.  With Justin gone you remove the strongest connection Whitney has to the other side of the house.  Problem is with that, America, on both sides of fandom loves Justin.  Misfit fans have already almost unanimously agreed if Alex isn't a HOH nominee she will be the vote for America's nominee this week!  I think that's one popular vote that could actually have the full weight of the misfits vote.  Alex is the biggest threat to any one on the misfits side winning at the end.  Also, consider if a Plastic makes it the end with two Misfits in final three the vote will very likely split among those 2 misfits and guarantee a Plastic win for BBOTT.  If ANY misfit has a shot at winning at this point it's very likely they have to go to the end with two Plastics so that reverse scenario applies and the votes are more likely to split and give the misfit a slight advantage over the other two HG sitting next them in final 3.  That's just how it looks now.  By the end of week 7 we will know for certain who the final HG's are competing but if Morgan, Alex, or Shelby and any one of them sits next to 2 misfits with the exception of Justin the votes will split guaranteeing a Plastic wins the game. 

 

Whitney then runs down how the comp played out since Justin was the last to go and he didn't get to see how it all played out.  She comforts Justin to not feel bad about only putting one name on each player it was virtually impossible for anyone to beat Shelby's time.  

 

Shelby and Morgan wander into the BA.  Morgan accepts its likely they will be HN's.  She and Shelby make general nice nice conversation about sharing Krackle with Whitney before the HN's are revealed. Jason yells form the KIT he hopes that Shelby gets a big old giant bag of Krackle in her HOH basket.  Alex now joins the BA.  The girls speculate if there will still be 3 HN's or 2 HN's this week now that the numbers are less in the house.  I wondered the same thing but based on last season I'm guessing it will remain the standard and be 3 HN's again this week.  

 

Keep in mind that America's Nominee ends next week, week 7.  The last care package will be in play week 8 and that gives the winner of that ACP a chance to play for a guaranteed fast forward pass to the final four.  Morgan, Shelby, Alex use the suitcase ploy to all exist and head to the SR together.  The Plastics enter and celebrate like crazy.  SO loud that Justin/Whitney can hear them through the wall in the BA.  

 

Whitney promised Justin last night in the BA right after the comp but he is the only one she will protect.  If you give her Co-HOH she is not guaranteed to help the misfits at all.  In fact you are setting her up to be able to win herself back in the good graces of the Plastics.  It does no good to save better ACP's for fan favorites like Jason/Justin in they go home this week.  

 

Consider this:

 

Shelby HOH +Whitney co-HOH

If Plastics fans win popular America nominee vote and get Kryssie or another misfit OTB and somehow 3 misfits then are all OTB the Plastics have the votes 2-1 for eviction over the Misfits.  Misfits fans are calling for an Alex America Nominee and I think thats exactly what nearly all Misfits fans should/would vote.  However, we still have to win the popular vote to make that a reality.  That is 4+ days away and not a guarantee we make it happen. 

 

Misfit fans will need to pile every single vote on Jason for ACP this week to ensure his safety in the game.  Shelby is far more likely to work with Jason cooperatively than Whitney.  After Whitney managed to come off the block Whitney is dead to Shelby.  Whitney is also more likely to do what the Plastics want to protect herself next week.  

 

Plastics fans are pushing for Whitney as ACP but I am seeing at least 10% in polls voting for Morgan at the moment.  I am also seeing 10% going to Justin in the polls.  Plastics fans will concede to the popular vote by the time Voting for ACP opens on CBS.  Misfits fans will need to do the same and all pile the votes on Jason to have any chance at preventing a Whitney ACP.  In the same effect that Plastics fans will have to concede to the popular vote and pile all their votes onto Whitney.  This its going to be a horse race.  I hinky vote by either fandom to the unpopular vote will result in a win for the other side of the house.  

 

12:38 am Plastics SR cam 1/2

Morgan says to Shelby/Alex

 

Right before we were getting ready to compete Justin said to me, 'hey if you win HOH are you targeting me?'  I said no.  He said, 'good because if I get HOH I am targeting Shelby.' 

 

Shelby

ewwwww, Maybe you shouldn't have told Morgan that right before the competition!  I guess I need to target Justin, AMERICA please don't give him the ACP.  PLEASE!!!!!''

 

Alex

Guess what, she (Whitney) was cheering for Kryssie the whole entire time. 

Alex continues to go on and on bashing Whitney and selling that she is not with them at all.  Some of her playback was true but there was a lot of extra added into her version of what actually happened. 

 

-I was actually impressed by Danielle's behavior in the HOH room with the other HG's.  She cheered on and made positive comments about every single player in the HOH.  She kept her game face on in front of the others and that was the smartest way to play the game in that scenario.  When Shelby finished with a time of 3:42 Kryssie's face went stone cold.  That was a terrible game move whether you like it or not, can't show any cards at this point in the game.

 

Shelby

Maybe we should put her (Whitney)...we just need to keep her close for now.

She quickly adjusts and they agree for now they need to keep her as a possible vote for their side this week. They all 3 agree they cannot tell Whitney anything and they should all be very hush hush about any plans until they know who the ACP this week. That's what Danielle did last week and quite frankly what every HOH should have been dong since week 2. 

 

Morgan

It's literally us 3 in this.

 

Alex

Yeah she's flipped.

 

Shelby

She like didn't even hug me after. 

 

They quickly speculate about Whitney possibly getting the ACP this week.  Alex says she would rather her get it than one of them (Misfits). 

 

Alex

There are four people on that side of the house I would love to get out and we can make it happen this week, hopefully. 

 

Last night during the HOH comps while the players were sequestered together in the house awaiting their turns, Morgan told Shelby after the comp ended that Justin said to her that if he won HOH he would nominate Shelby.  We didn't see that on the feeds, cannot verify if that's true or not, although it sounds like something Justin would do.  Shelby wants to target Justin anyways and that comment being shared by Morgan only made her seem more determined.  ACP Polls were already full steam ahead by  this time last night and Jason was dominating the vote for ACP.  So, if you want any shot at not guaranteeing a Plastics victory this week voting has become more important than ever. If you're team misfits throwing the vote to Jason is the best opportunity to prevent a Plastics steamrolling victory this week any way you slice it.  It's possible Whitney would try and counter Shelby's nom but not likely.  That would not be the right game move for her at this point in the game.

 

Now that we've covered the ACP voting information here's how the other votes are looking for week 6 as of today.  Don't think these are carved in stone because what happens in the house could shift the America's Nominee by Sunday when the safety ceremony is over.

 

HN's 

Only 2 players from each team are eligible to be a HN.  So regardless of which side of the house your loyalty lies you will have to put at least one player form the other side up as a HN. 

 

I am voting for Morgan, Alex, and Danielle.  If Jason wins the ACP, which I HOPE he does he can't be a HN and Dani is the only other option.  In all honesty since we have to put 1 misfit as a HN anyway I think Dani is the better choice.  She just came off a strong HOH week, she is a HUGE target and being a HN plants the seed in Plastics minds that she is still not liked by America. We want them to think that if Jason doesn't win ACP it's still best to give HN's to Dani for that goal alone.  Alex HATES Danielle.  I don't care that she made some deal with her during week 5 HOH she did so and walked right out of the room and talked about how much she hates her and still wants her out but it was the best game move for Alex to try and keep herself off the block.

 

After the change in nominees at the veto ceremony Alex was ranting about Jason.  There's no denying that.  However, Jason and Alex have this shared manipulation with each other where they both have equally pretended to have a secret alliance with each other.  The further we get into the game the more likely this may become an actual alliance, over a fake one just to keep themselves safe.  Alex is not out of hot water and since she already has that relationship established as a 'just in case' scenario she is far less likely to target Jason than Danielle.  That's actually a very smart game move for her at this point.  Alex is in a very good position within her trio, Morgan is more loyal than Shelby, but Shelby's dislike for so many misfits is more likely to sway her arguments to Alex and Morgan about targeting lower fruit potentially.  Jason as CO-HOH increases these odds exponentially.  Whether she really likes what he did last week he did inevitably save one of the girls from going home at the end of the day and that's what he promised Alex he would try and do.  

 

All of these side alliances and teams are becoming much more fluid since as a player in the game in week 6 you have to start playing for your own game above all else.  Shelby, Morgan, and Alex have all planned to make Whitney feel like she's still good with them but they have 100% turned against her.  Whitney may or may not still be loyal to the Plastics.  Whether she purposely did so or not, last week put her smack dab in the middle of the two sides and she can float to power this week and next based on who is in control of HOH.  If Jason is CO-HOH she is far more likely to help them.  Last night she told Justin she will vote with them (Misfits) to get every single one of those girls out of the house.  I personally, believe as long as it doesn't put her game in direct jeopardy in the moment she will actually do that.  I also think the Plastics are weary enough of Whitney that they will avoid a scenario where her vote could be the swing vote to protect themselves.  That is the smartest game move.

 

Today will be interesting to her the Plastics strategy and talk scenarios.  The beauty in at, even more so than most weeks, the early ideas of who to nominate will mean even less once the ACP results are revealed because Shelby will only be able to name one nominee this week.  The CO-HOH will name the other.  Plastics fans prefer to give that to Whitney, I suspect saving next week for Morgan's safety with DE veto. Misfits fans piling all of their votes on Jason gives the best shot at gaining the popular vote and making sure that Jason and the misfits side prevent all 3 nominee this week being from the misfits side of the house.  

 

My personal votes for ACP

Jason

 

My personal votes for HN's

Morgan/Alex/Danielle

HN's is a disadvantage going into the veto competition.  It also forces those three to hang out in the HN room.  That could benefit either side of the house depending on who uses a punishment like this to their advantage.  Plus, if Jason wins ACP he can't be a HN anyway and Danielle is the only other option.  

 

Hope these scenarios and color commentary of what's currently happening in the house help you watch the feeds with a more strategic outlook than an emotional one.  It's week 6 and being emotional at this point in any BB season is a bad idea.  Look at the situation Plastics fans have left Alex/Shelby in.  Neither can receive CP's in this second half of the game putting them in a much more vulnerable position.  As annoyed as many may have been with the voting trend weeks 2-5, remember I said don't get too worked up over it.  There is a cause and effect.  This now gives us a far better chance at winning the popular vote.  We just can't get stuck in a mindset of we have to save last two CP's for fan favorite and can afford to let Whitney win this week.  If you are a misfit fan there should be zero acceptable final CP's going to anyone but a misfit.  Also, note the way that panned out now leaves us able to join together unanimously and nominate Alex as America's nominee.  Plastics are still chattering about getting Kryssie out of the house.  With Alex in the game with her sister, no one wins at the end against her.  No one.  That fandom will ALL vote for Alex before anyone else. Ya dig? 

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Thursday's Julie Live Q&A and general LF Updates

 

Thursday, November 3

Julie’s Live Q&E with Julie

 

3:59 pm

HG I need everyone to gather in the LR right now.

 

HG make their way to the LR, Kryssie first to arrive and Jason last to arrive. 

 

Julie

Hi everyone, how is everyone doing?

 

HG’s

Everyone replies Good.

 

Julie

Well, we are just four week s away from crowing the winner of BBOTT.  It’s getting close everyone.  Which means this game is getting harder, more intense,  and last night’s HOH comp was intense to say the least.  

Shelby. First of all, congratulations on smoking the competition, absolutely smoking the competition to become the new HOH.  Viewers want to know how did you complete that puzzle so fast when your fellow housemates were struggling so much with it. 

 

Shelby

Well, I know can’t move faster than a lot of my fellow HG’s so I knew I had to carry the plates with me.  I guess I have just been staring at everyone’s faces a lot.  IDK. I couldn’t even remember the clicks that everyone was supposed to represent.  I was just so focused on the features. 

 

Julie

Got it.  Kryssie, last night Scott was evicted by a unanimous vote.  You’v made your dislike of Scott very well know, to say the least. So how does it feel now that he’s out of the house?

 

Kryssie

Honestly, I’m always really bummed to see anybody leave. On a personal level, I hate sending anybody home.  I realize that’s the name of the game as a person, it’s tough.  It sucks to kinda see his dream end at the door. But, I really feel as a player, he made a lot of personal choices instead of game choices, and I feel like now we can kind of get down to business as a group. Maybe stop worrying about some personal things and start playing more strategically. So best of luck to Scott, but I’m ready to keep moving. 

 

-Kryssie rarely says anything I fully agree with but that comment about less personal and more strategic is a sentiment I share. I hope this is true among LF’s as we enter the last few weeks of the season as well.  A girl can dream can’t she?

 

Julie

Game on.  All right.  Alex, it’s no secret that there are two sides in the house. And last night you lost a member of your side. How hard was it to see Scott walk out the door?

 

 

Alex

I mean it was difficult.  Scott was someone in this house that I was close with and I view him as a really good friend.  So having to say goodbye to someone I really, really value in this game was tough.  But I do know, like Kryssie said, it is the name of the game and it’s something that’s going to happen each week until we crown a winner. So, you just adapt and move on. 

 

Julie

There you go.  Well, some of you encountered a very scary veto competition this week.  Let’s all take a look. 

 

HG’s are excited to see a segment of the haunted veto.  CBS included a clip of Shelby telling the manikin “if you touch me I will sue you.”  She smiles as it happens and her face changes for a moment as she hears that and then just puts that smile right back on her face again.

 

Clip ends.

 

Julie

Wow, that was scary.  Now Justin.  We’ve heard you talk about how scared you are of witches and of ghosts. How real is that fear?

 

Justin,

Yo!  That’s extreme to me, and like yo, I’m very superstitious so I don’t get down with non elf the spirits or ghosts. None of that.  I’m not rocking with none of that stuff.  

 

Julie

Well you are from New Orleans, right?

 

Justin

Yeah, you already know, baby. Justin, yo, it’s not like that, it’s not like that. 

 

A couple of the Plastics cheering Julie on to get him.  

 

When he says baby all the other HG’s gasps and react. 

 

Justin

I’m so sorry. I really am.

 

Julie

You did apologize. Don’t make me bring some ghosts back.

 

Justin gets very animated and says

No! NO! NO! I don’t want that.

 

Julie

All right.  Let me ask you this Justin.  On a scale of 1-10, how scary was your experience in the haunted house?

 

Justin 

Yo, it had to be like a 9 1/2 for sure. LOL

Julie

Oh, now you’re just challenging us to make it an 11.  LOL

 

Justin

No, I was extremely, I was petrified yo.  I was not expecting that at all.

 

Julie

Well, it was fun to watch. Jason, what was the strategy behind your kind and polite attitude towards the apparitions? 

 

Jason

Well, I do terrible at the haunted houses on the outside world.  But, I have found to help the strategy to scare them before they scare you.  But to take them off guard by just asking random questions, or asking them totally off the wall off putting things.  So, I just try to make friends with them while I was complimenting their hair, and talking to them.  I was hitting on the guy in the bunny mask. (all HG’s LOL). So, it actually worked out quite well.  I think I could have moved a little bit quicker, but it was just a good way to stop them from scaring me.

 

Julie

Smart way to concur your fears. Now Whitney, one of our viewers wants to know what was scarier this week?  The haunted veto or the morphed faces of the HG’s in the HOH competition?

 

Whitney

Definitely.       The.         Veto comp with the spirits and the ghosts.  Although the clicks were terrifying and I think we’ve all agreed that none of us are ever going to have children together because they were so ugly.  But, the veto competition with the spirits hands down was the scariest and I love scary stuff and I couldn’t even handle it.  I know my mama’s so upset cause I said every cuss word in the book going through this house.  But, it was terrifying.

 

Julie

Well, look at it this way if two of you end up having a child we can hire that person years later to be in that competition.

 

Whitney

That is so true.

 

Julie

We wont have to put on masks, no, I’m just kidding.Danielle, last week you won both the HOH and the veto.  How difficult was it to use that veto?

 

Danielle

You know it was really difficult for me to use that veto, I had the one mindset going into the week if I were to win the veto. 

(Cameras cut to stone cold faced Morgan)

And then it gets down to the middle of the week and things change. You have to roll with the punches in this house, so…(cameras change to Whitney no looking sick to her stomach) there are so many things that you have to factor in, but I knew that I wanted to save Whitney and I was scared that if I didn’t she would go home.  I didn’t want to see her leave just yet. (Camera cuts to Shelby who is twitching her mouth to the side) America handed me Scott, wrapped in a pretty pink bow and I just felt like (camera zooms in on Morgan trying to fake a smile for a second and then getting a glazed over look on her face) if I didn’t take this chance that America might be like, What os wrong with YOU? And I was seeing that America already made a HN and nominated me in the same week in the past and being eligible this week I was like trying to get back in their good graces.  I think it was a good gam move and I stand by it 100%. 

 

-Wow, Danielle just ran through all that like she was having a private candid one on one conversation.  I expect to hear lots of reaction and speculations from the Plastics in just a little while.  LOL

 

Julie

Ok.  Morgan. You are still eligible for ACP this week.  (cams cut to Kryssie looking sternly) If you receive it, what do you hope it contains?  

 

Morgan

Obviously, I hope it contains some kind of safety (cam cuts to Justin looking annoyed) so I don’t have to worry but I  mean I think it could be a ton of different things.  I ran through just about every scenario, but I mean as long as its some kind of where I get saved (cam cuts to Dani looking interested at least) you know maybe it has a little added bonus where I could help somebody else out. I wouldn’t complain about either of those I don’t think.  

 

Julie

And beyond power what about some personal things? 

 

Morgan

Oh personal things? 

she is completely thrown off by that follow up question.  Alex I think says Money. Morgan continues

Money? No? 

 

Jason

Reminds them the ACP comes in one of those little boxes

 

Morgan (in her rah rah cheerleader posed face and completely different voice and tone in her speech she always has in DR’s but no other time in the house).

OMG if it were a phone call from home! Or a picture?  I just really wanna see my BF.  So, Julie if you can pull some strings Idk.  You have…I trust you.

 

Julie

 I will pass along the message.  I will put it that way. 

 

Morgan

Thanks.  

 

Julie 

Well, I have some big news for everyone.

 

-You hear Oh God!

 

Julie

Next Wednesday you will be evicting not 1, but 2 HG’s.

 

Alex

We knew it!  

Others a lot of ohhhhhhhhhh

 

Julie 

That’s right everyone it’s DE week. Now the first eviction will take place immediately following the weekly episode airing at an earlier time of 8pm EST/5pm Pst. The second eviction will happen later that night. (Camera cuts to Shelby who looks like she just had the wind knocked out of her!  LOL)

That’s 2 Live evictions, sending 2 HG’s home in one night.  Which means no will be safe.  But remember this is BBOTT, and everything is different.  So next Wednesday, expect the unexpected. I’ll leave you with that HG’s.  Goodbye everyone.

 

HG’s all say Goodbye Julie

 

4:06:39 pm 

Danielle

OMG

 

Shelby

Who else feel like throwing up? I’m the first HOH to not be safe.  

-Actually she’s right and that made me LOL hysterically.  The one week she finally wins anything and she could still go home the same night she sends someone else out the door!  (cam 1 Kryssie’s face when I pause it was looking petrified for Shelby so you know we will hear some color coded dissertation as to why Shelby won this week later).

 

Alex and Morgan can’t help but look giddy knowing they may have missed a bullet and think ha ha I’m so glad Shelby got HOH and not me. 

 

-The beauty in Shelby knowing that this is what is going to happen is, it may very well change her entire mindset and she may use this now to help barter some protection for herself from bigger, stronger, players and that’s a huge help to her as she decides to nominate and not so great for the petty betty sisters (cam 1)  who are both still sitting there with huge smiles on their faces unable to hide their joy while Shelby is on cam 4 truly looking like she may throw up!  

 

General chatter talking over each other about predicting it would come and Jason being the one who kept saying they may not do it for this season.  

 

Whitney smartly asks does that mean no AN for that DE?

 

Scott’s Interview w/Julie

America’s role drastically effected the chances of him getting to the end and winning.  HN’s twice really set in his mind that America didn’t like him.  He regrets cutting CB so early.

 

Julie reveals sister twist!  After asking if the sibling is still in the game Julie confirms that and Scott guesses Morgan.  He is really stunned.  Said he never considered a twist like that in the house this season.  Says the bond between Shelby and Alex was always in the forefront of his mind.  Scott also confirms he really was focused on propelling Alex once he decided in his own mind his chances of winning were slim.

 

-My impression in hearing Scott and all his actions in the house are that Scott will get deep in SM trying to help Alex even more.  This has the potential to backfire.  Also, once he has time to really marinate the fact he was pinned between the sisters and how much Alex was using him and manipulating him sets in he will still be team Alex.  I know some have said they can’t wait for him to get out and hear the comments made about him, but he just seems so needy and once he sees her popularity and remember Scott knows this LF community so well, he won’t come out against her.  He may campaign a little more for Shelby but he wont ever come out publicly against Alex.  

 

Now that those two things are out of the way let’s cover a few things in the house last night.  I’m not spending a great deal of time and effort only because the ACP reveal this afternoon at 1 PM has the potential to negate anything that’s discussed today.  

 

Once the group dissipates in the LR we are left with Dani, Whitney, and Justin lingering for a minute or two. Dani exits and Justin and Whitney remain.  Most HG are in the SR since it has been restocked. 

 

4:27 pm cam 1 LR

Justin

You ok?

 

Whitney

Yeah

 

J

You worried?

 

W

Yeah But luckily we didn't win HOH otherwise we wouldn’t be able to compete next week.

 

J

I already know.  I didn’t wanna win, it’s the 6th week, 

(This is where Justin’s superstitions mess with his head.  He didn’t want anything to do with the number 6 because it’s an evil number.) He comments that ‘look what happened its the 6th week, and Satan won the HOH.’

I’m just staying positive and whatever happens I have a feeling I’m gonna be straight.

 

Whitney

Me too. 

 

J

I’m feeling good, I like, don’t think its gonna be me.

 

W

No, I think your fine. I’m gonna have to make some slop cookies. 

Justin sweetly offers to make her some more fried pickles.  She accepts.

 

11/3 

4:36 pm HOH

Shelby/Alex 

 

Alex

I knew that was coming.  I was convinced it was gone be DE next week but then Jason talked me out of it.

-Hmmmm so Jason can make you go against your gut?  Shouldn’t you know that since you’ve decided he’s the greatest master mind and biggest snake in the house?

 

Shelby

That just means I have to set myself up because isn’t it just like instant you don’t even have time 

 

Alex

The thing is DE is how people, that’s when all the good players get taken out.  You can make deals all you want, but they are just going to throw you under the bus that week. It’s almost like if you don’t win HOH you get so screwed

-Thanks BF for stating that she is so screwed!  Now watch Alex try to manipulate Shelby here and try to ensure she does what Alex wants regardless of whether is sets Shelby up to go home. What she doesn’t do-which she should have learned from the Whitney situation- is try and reassure Shelby that she will do everything she can to keep Shelby safe.  Make her feel as protected by you and Morgan as possible. Shelby seeks that but Alex focuses on her game plan.

 

Alex

I know.  I know. We need to get out a big player to eliminate their shot of winning it. 

 

Shelby

Well, that doesn’t change anything.

 

Alex

It’s just even more pressure now to make a big move before the DE

 

As I predicted above, they go into Danielle’s answer to Julie, how she always wanted to save Whitney.  How Dani said a lot of things changed.

 

Shelby

What changed?  You told Scott before he was AN that if you won veto you would take him down.

 

Alex

Yep!  Yep!  I’m surprised he didn't call her out on that for breaking a deal.

 

Shelby

Yeah too bad he didn’t

-Hmmmm again these girls were the same ones so offended that Shane and Neely went out like that but were counting on Scott doing the same type of thing for them.  Then they go into how Danielle broke a deal after that side says you shouldn’t break deals in this game.  Calls them hypocrites again.  The irony is Alex has been saying all season its part of the game, you have to break deals and she’s done it nearly every week and with any deal she has made and now that LNC finally broke a deal, she wants to trash them for playing her own game against her and the Plastics!  It’s laughable to me. As I’ve said breaking deals is an element of the game but its timing and doing it early makes people not trust you and lessens the chance they want to work with you later down the road.  We are now in the second half of the game, Danielle didn’t break a deal with Alex or Shelby, she broke the faux plan with Scott, and things did change, and when they do it, it’s game, when the misfits do it they are terrible people and hypocrites.  None us should be surprised that’s been the pattern all season long.  

 

Shelby

But Scott said his time was over and he didn’t want to keep playing after that

 

Alex

It’s just again another very hypocritical situation where they break a promise and nothing ever happens about it. 

 

Whitney enters HOH

 

Alex

OMG the DE is scary

 

That is scary

 

A

Yeah cause that’s when all the big players get sent home

-Please let this be foreshadowing for an Alex exit!  Please! Please! Please!

 

W

But hopefully, lets think of the numbers, if someone were to go home, Shelby’s not going to be able to play right?

 

S

It would be 3-3 if I get one of them out. 

 

W

ok

 

Alex 

Its almost like one of us has to win HOH

 

The three girls go through just general DE odds, votes, etc and its emphasized that they have to get one of them out to better their odds of winning DE HOH.  Well, isn’t that true whether it’s DE or not?  You can see where Whitney is talking like she always has with them in game discussion where they are not contributing anything more than just common knowledge information.  Morgan eventually joins them after a few minutes and they go into discussing Julie’s questions, Morgan scold Alex for suggesting $ when Julie asked Morgan about what she might like to see in the ACP that’s personal.  Someone suggest maybe a phone call from home again and Alex says that’s lame, they’ve only been there for 37 days and no one needs to hear from home they can last a couple more weeks it’s not like they are in there for 100 days.  

 

-For me, this is the type of attitude even in the intro video that gave me the impression she is very self involved and that way of thinking makes her an ally I wouldn’t want to have.   I also predicted that would be the downfall of her own game.  We see her making decisions all about her, yes this is a game where only one person wins but at different moments this has been discussed by her own team and makes her questionable to them, especially Shelby and Whitney.  Morgan, has made this comment to Alex herself and her being all about her, but that’s her sister and from where I am looking Morgan really disappointed me allowing Alex to control her game.  I had hopes for Morgan based on preseason and the idea she wouldn’t align obviously with Alex and the potential for her to be more likable, learn quickly and take what she learns from Alex and others and actually out last her sister.  It’s still possible but the first two weeks although aligned with he Plastics we saw Morgan developing some of her own alliances and looking to get something going with say Monte, Shane, Danielle, and herself.  She was open minded to those kinds of ideas.  As soon as Monte left she spent some time with Neely but never really invested a lot into that she put most of her eggs in Alex’s basket.  For now, the girls have managed to make it survive and that is an accomplishment in and of itself. One reason an all girls alliance finally has survived so long is because 2/4 are sisters. If you really watch the interaction between the sisters you see little comments made by Alex directed towards Morgan to make digs at her all the time.  This is a very sisterly type behavior.  In this convo it’s again commenting how Morgan word vomits and its now become entertaining for Alex when Morgan does it. 

 

Justin has called from the KIT for Whitney as the fried pickles he mad her are done.  As soon as she exits…

 

4:49 pm cam 4 HOHBR

Shelby

Ok I need one of you two to win that HOH next week!  We are working on efficiency type things with YOU (Morgan) you almost beat me and if you had just done what I did (Morph comp) you would have beat me. 

 

Morgan

I don’t think I would have beat you, but I think I would have come closer. 

 

Alex

You are proving that you are a competition threat

 

Morgan

You know what my problem is….

 

Alex talks over Morgan as she tries to state her challenge in comps

You don’t have common sense

-nice Alex

 

Morgan

I get in things and I get frazzled and every thing…

 

Alex

You forget common sense

 

Morgan

I get frazzled 

 

Shelby

The wall, the wall you won but you would have done it in like 4 minutes had you just gone and opened each question and just done it

 

-Let’s pause here.  Most of the day was LNC bashing Plastics, Plastics bashing LNC.  

 

The important game points to know are:

Whitney has promised Justin when those girls are OTB she will vote with LNC and get those girls out.

 

Shelby wants to target both Jason/Justin this week.

Alex is behaving like this HOH is her HOH.

 

Jason/Justin have had a rift and it has Jason questioning Justin's loyalty to the group.  Justin is very adamant he is meant to have the week 7 HOH, it's his lucky number and Jason sees that as being very selfish and had him ranting to Kryssie abut Justin only thinking about Justin.  This is something to watch and see if it grows or fizzles out.

 

Whitney and Justin begin HN's together gave them a lot of time to bond and has been a huge contributing factor to pulling her away from Plastics.  She is playing along, she needs to for her own game.  The Plastics are also playing along but they have lost all trust and believe if they get Justin out this week they can pull her back into their web. 

 

 

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Most Important Vote of the Season for LNC/Misfits

 

 

Jason won the ACP!  Way to go LNC fans!  We did it!  He is the Co-HOH! Let's take a step back for a moment with three days between now and the America Nominee Vote.  I have something I have been discussing with some of the major LNC SM leaders in communicating the majority vote which influences poll results when they begin.  Let me disarm you by saying when Sunday rolls around whatever the popular opinion is for either Fandom I will report it and we should vote collectively in the best interest of gaining the dominant vote. However this lands, I will promote the popular vote when that time comes.  Just take a deep breath and sit back and ponder what I am about to share with you from a statistical point of view, since numbers don't lie and have been the most influential part of this BBOTT season. 

 

As soon as Shelby won HOH I saw a fire storm of LNC fans calling for Alex's head on a platter in this week's AN.  I love that we are all coming together but my fear is this is gaining a lot of momentum without considering what really is the best vote to secure the LNC collectively stay in the game and possibly position all of them to make it to final 6 and survive double eviction.  Yes, most of us banded together to vote Morgan for eviction and Scott still won the popular vote.  There were some LNC fans who thought Scott going required their votes and that helped the dominant vote to send Scot home. 

 

Yes, we all have done a lot to help get all the LNC fans united to get the popular vote to land on Jason for this week’s ACP and we will know today if it was enough.  It may be if everyone actually voted Jason.  Jason does have a small fan base on that side of the Plastics fandom and they dislike Whitney for going against Plastics as well as enjoy the idea of a Shelby/Jason Co-HOH.  I have heard, as soon as Shelby won HOH, a majority of LNC fans calling for Alex as AN.  While I love that the majority all really want Alex out of the game!  We all agree we don’t want her there and she is not the biggest threat to any of our individual favorites among the LNC having a shot to not only stay but make it to the end and win.  I know that goes against everything you may be thinking but all I ask is you take a deep breath and keep reading so I can at least have a fair opportunity to present a valid argument why I believe this. 

 

That snowballing idea, Alex AN,  gaining so much momentum is also coming from an emotional reaction.  We all share a dislike for Alex and want her gone, that’s the one motive we share. We hate the advantage the sister twist has had.  That being said, are people really placing the momentum this early on the right target? Is Alex a threat?  Yes!  Is she the smartest Plastic for LNC fans to vote for America’s nominee?  Well, if she’s the popular opinion in order to try and make it a reality we will have to.

 

I’ve reached out to some of those heavy hitters influencing the majority vote on the LNC fan base side of things and posed this idea to be considered.  If by some miracle we win the popular vote and get Alex evicted that’s a victory.  It’s also a situation we’ve now created that almost guarantees that an LNC player will NOT get that DE ACP Veto.  If Alex goes, Plastics fandom will unite for one last unanimous vote.  Every single Plastics fan will 100% vote Morgan for the next ACP!  This week we saw some of that fandom splintering in their selection.  A large majority want Whitney to have it in the interest of Saving DE Veto ACP for Morgan. Some actually may have voted Morgan and that helps out odds of giving it to Jason.  Just don't be under the fans belief that in week 6 we still have the larger fan base.  that hasn't been true for a couple weeks.  Jason/Dani/Justin fans declined in the first two weeks.  We got the ACP to go to Jason this week! Consider though that some Plastics fans split among Morgan and Whitney this week for ACP.  Some like Jason and threw a few votes our way.  Next week 100% of Plastics fans will put every single vote on Morgan next week for ACP and the chances that we are able to overpower that popular vote is a slim percentage difference.  It is in fact more likely they will dominate the popular vote.

 

Remember the reason we were able to get CB and Monte OTB and get Kryssie that first ACP was because we had voting from both fan bases and the percentage of their votes added to our gave us the popular vote.  Same applies to the Scott win last week getting him OTB as AN.  Some Plastics fans wanted Scott OTB because they felt like he was hurting Alex’s game and their priority is to keep the all girls alliance in tact above all things.  We have to capitalize on swinging a small percentage of them in our favorable vote in order to get things to go LNC’s way.  Alex is their first priority among that fan base and the Plastics all girls alliance is their second.  The whole reason they voted for Whitney this week is they were saving the DE veto for Morgan!  If Morgan stays this week, she is virtually guaranteed the DE veto. I am sorry, I hate to tell you this but stats don’t lie.  I am a numbers girl.  Any misfit voting for Whitney for ACP this week helped the Plastics fan assure no matter how many of us banned together Whitney would win this week’s ACP and their long term goal was preplanned-give Morgan wk 7 ACP DE veto.

If we are truly trying to give all of the LNC the best odds of making it to final 6 we should be doing everything we possibly can to get Morgan out this week, just like taking the gamble if she happened to get one HG vote for eviction week last week she would have gone home bettering the odds the LNC wins the remaining ACP’s.  

 

I already hear different chat rooms discussing who should get next week’s ACP.  We are a split fan base where some prefer Dani, some prefer Jason, and others prefer Justin.  Justin is well liked by many Plastics fans.  Dani has actually gained some popularity after her HOH week on that side of fandom as well.  The truth is the best way to get your player to get either of the last two ACP’s is to get Morgan out this week.   If Morgan goes, that fan base isn’t pleased that Whitney has been conspiring against the enemy.  They wont come out in full force for her to get the ACP DE veto.  They will then fracture off and start putting their votes in varying percentages towards our favorite 3 players.  That improves the odds that Justin or Danielle wins that ACP and the final four ACP.  If we leave Morgan in we will lose the ACP voting next week, I’m sorry I hate to be the bearer of bad news but statistically speaking thats a fact we all need to recognize. 

 

Overall in the chatter I see and hear among LNC fans is that we all want  to break up the sisters.  If Alex ends up on the block by some miracle from HOH nominations then we will all vote Morgan.  If Morgan ends up as HOH nominee we will all Vote Alex.  That’s a given. Will we win that popular vote?  If some Plastics fans see Alex is in danger they will sacrifice Morgan over her sister and we may gain that same small percentage of votes that got Monte, CB, and Scott out of the game.  That’s the very best case scenario this week. 

 

We should in fact be spreading the word to nominate Morgan as America’s Nominee and every single one of the misfits fan base should vote that way.  It is the only guarantee 100% that Morgan is OTB and Morgan has a chance to go home because then, and only then, will those Plastic fan base votes fracture and spread among our favorite players giving them the remaining ACP’s. 

 

You may not like to hear that.  I want Alex out as much as you all do.  I want the LNC to have the best chance at retaining those last two ACP’s more.  This is also another week we have the chance to get the AN we want OTB.  Most Plastics fans had been talking about getting Kryssie up as AN this week before Shelby won.  Some still can’t get over week one and their personal hate for Danielle.  While the majority of them will likely land on a main target some will splinter off, like last week with the Scott vote, and vote the other.  They are not likely to throw votes in our voting but they will lose the majority dominant vote if around 8-10% of their fan base votes away from the popular vote among them.  We can literally use every bad vote that has made us angry all season against them when they and the Plastics are most vulnerable!  

 

If we can get Morgan out, Alex will be the only one competing against Danielle, Kryssie, Justin, and Whitney/Jason in the week 7 DE HOH.  She will be shook her sister just left and like Morgan Alex doesn’t perform as well under a lot of pressure.  It vastly improves the odds that a LNC member wins that DE HOH and they can send Alex home she will have zero protection.  Shelby can’t win ACP.  Alex can’t win ACP.  Morgan will be gone and can’t win ACP.  Whitney wants Alex gone, sees her as the biggest threat to her game and will never save Alex.  Justin wants the week 7 HOH more than he has wanting anything in this game.

 

Jason and Justin have actually been arguing about this.  Jason want the next HOH for De very bad as well.  However, as we all know Justin is very superstitious and 7 is a very LUCKY number in his mind.  He has been waiting for this week 7 and has literally asked Jason to let him have the week 7 HOH win if it comes down to them.  That made Jason go on a rant with Kryssie last night.  Jason says he wants he to and he feels like Justin is being selfish to ask him to throw that just because #7 is his lucky number.  Now, I don’t disagree with Jason’s line thinking.  I don’t like that this is causing a rift between the strongest alliance so far in this entire season.  My greater point is Justin can taste it, he will not throw it!  He may not win it but he will give it everything he’s got in DE. 

 

It will not matter who wins DE HOH on the LNC side if Morgan gets that ACP DE Veto.  They cannot get her out.  They can put her up next to Shelby so she has to use it on herself and not someone else, but she will save herself, an then the LNC HOH will   HAVE to sit next to Shelby OTB.  This is week 7.  You may not have thought of this so I want you to take a deep breath.  Ready, this takes the game down to final 6.  It is very likely, if it comes down to 5 v 2 in DE, and an LNC wins that they will take out one of the biggest players on their own side.  The only way I can see that not happening is if Kryssie wins DE HOH.  She genuinely wants to go to the end with her group.  Dani, Jason, Justin, all know this is the one chance to take someone out on their own side that is a threat to their chance at winning the game and they WILL take the shot.  Be prepared for it.  This may be BBOTT but BB is still BB and that’s what happens in DE.  If somehow a Plastic goes home this week, hopefully Morgan, thats the best chance for LNC to survive this week and next week, but know we are at the point in the game next week where it is every man/woman for themselves and we are 99% likely to see an LNC member who wins HOH take out one of their own.  That’s the game.  So if you want to improve the odds that your favorite LNC player wins the popular vote for ACP DE Veto, taking out Morgan is the only shot you have!  It’s do or die with this America nominee vote and eviction this week.  If Morgan doesn’t go home, she will get next week’s ACP, if we manage to get Alex out well that’s great but you are ensuring that Morgan stays past DE and a misfit goes home regardless.  

 

If Alex stays this week and Morgan goes we guarantee an LNC team member wins ACP DE Veto.  It is the very best odds over anything else that LNC take out Alex!  It guarantees an LNC wins DE Veto, its now 5 v Alex in DE HOH and she knows she’s dead in the water, she’s reeling from her sister going home and it improves the odds that LNC member wins DE HOH, and LNC holds the DE Veto and all four original LNC stay through DE. Shelby and Jason (assuming he wins this weeks ACP) can’t compete.  We must remain united going into the remaining votes this week. Spread the word, be clear and concise with why this is the best way to guarantee LNC makes it to the final 6 in tact.  It doesn’t matter which LNC is your personal favorite, we can work together to get them all there.  The best way to make that happen is make Morgan the America Nominee and let the LNC taker her out this week! Plastics fans votes will splinter among our favorite players and one of them is now guaranteed to get the last two ACP's.  There are no other options.  They won't come out in full force for Whitney!  LNC wins DE Veto and LNC HOH guarantees they all survive DE and Alex goes home right after her sister. It's the best shot we have!   

 

When we band together we can make the votes work in our favor and help the LNC. If we take out Morgan this week, we guarantee either Danielle or Justin gets the DE VETO ACP.  Don’t forget HN voting opens today.Since Jason won ACP, I am not sure we will even vote HN's because the only three left are Alex, Morgan, Dani.  We want Alex.Morgan on SLOP!  It weakens them for this week’s veto and for double eviction.  I’m sorry Dani fans, she's on slop by default.  But this is a huge win for us! 

 

Sunday I will return with the popular vote for America’s Nom. No matter what the popular vote is. It’s still critical we vote together for the sake of the team as whole and not handing the Plastics fans the popular vote by default.  I just really hope people can set their emotions aside and look at the best chances.  I know there has been a fast moving train for a popular vote among us for Alex, but I really hope that people take a step back and consider the things I’ve provided from a statical perspective you can’t beat the numbers.  Numbers don’t lie.  My analysis rests on actually getting Morgan out this week, if she doesn’t go it’s all out the window, but remember the LNC discussed the ACP’s and the fact Morgan and Whitney are eligible and although last week’s plan to get one out got side tracked…They all know that DE is coming now. Julie told them in the LIVE Q&A's yesterday.  They all know Morgan could win the ACP.  I have to believe they know if she’s up there it is the smartest and best move to get her out before DE. 

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As always Aimee. brilliant analysis.   just want to  add there is another factor that I believe made a difference.   Another fan site member exposed by reprinting the collusion for multiple voting.   From the recommendations for the multiple voting,  there is strong evidence was caused by fans of the all girl (plus Scott) alliance  (BS as they call themselves, or Plastics as defined here.   From analyzing the vocal fan bases,  it  appeared there were still more LNC (late night crew/jamboree then the girl+Scott (bs/plastic) alliance.  Yet the results. including Shane & Neely evictions seemed not what one. have based on level. of noise and the numbers of different posters.

 

I was suspicious of some form of cheating and actually posted my concerns.  But  It was not until exposure on twitter by some vary brave posters of the calculated way in how to vote and revote beyond CBS Rules and regulations.

 

I forwarded to CBS  the twitter postings and links. of various posters. brazenly voting. up to 60 times to 100 times (when only 20 allowed) as well as the various schemes on how to vote multiple times by manipulating the site.     (there is a section for BB that actually allows for raising issues.).   I raised the duty of CBS. to ensure the integrity of the process since. there is $250,000 prize money on the line, and all cast members should have an equal opportunity to compete fairly.  

 

Do not know if was random  or if there were others who had voiced similar concerns.  But it appears that  steps were taken to correct the ABUSE of the process.  Based on the turn in how nominations, and voting have gone  CBS. took steps to.  close down some of the  cliches allowing multiple voters.   I actually think Scott’s nomination,  Scott’s eviction,  as well as care package delivery to Jason is indicative of the true representation of  fan base numbers.   BBOT. is a gift to the true fan base of BB franchise and as such  honesty and integrity need to be shown back to CBS. to keep the show alive.   

 

I know many fans of  BB. who did not subscribe either for financial reasons  or lack of access.   Those who subscribe and participated. should not have had cheating in the process although how innocent motives were.   

 

IF CBS is able to keep out the manipulation of the voting -   then  those who support one side or the other  can trust the integrity of the process.   I do not think we need to look at the weeks  of Shane and Neeley evictions as anything other then manipulated voting.     THe evidence is clear that Jason and Scott’s ouster reflected CBS’s getting control of the wide scale cheating going on.

 

 

 

 

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America's Care Package

 

Jason received the ACP this week and is the Co-HOH.  Don't get too excited, the "rules" of the Co-HOH are stacked in Plastics favor (of course) and do not reflect any other Co-HOH every in the history of BB. 

 

1:05 pm BY Jason receives ACP

Along with his power he got Smore's fixings. 

 

1:09 pm SR Morgan/Shelby

Morgan is freaking out because she thinks Jason won't target Alex, because of the ACP discussion last week he will come for Morgan.  She suggests to Shelby maybe she approaches Jason with a deal lying and saying if he keeps her safe and she does get the ACP she will use it to help him.  Shelby tells her to just wait and see what happens before making any decisions. 

Same time

Misfits BY cam 1/2

Everyone congratulates Jason and says see he was worried about going home this week for nothing.  Jason points out he is safe this week, but with DE he could still end up going out the exact same day he did his season and with this he can't compete in DE. 

 

1:10 pm Jason/Shelby called to DR

Morgan is stress eating again

 

Alex approaches Justin once Shelby and Jason are called to the DR for the stipulations of this HOH.

She says to Justin that if he keeps Jason from nominating her (Alex) then she will keep Shelby from nominating Justin.  

 

Justin says Jason is putting you up 100%. 

 

Jason and Shelby emerge from the DR and retire to the respective areas of the house where their teams are hanging out to fill them in.

 

Each HOH will select one person to be safe each safety ceremony. Shelby gets to choose first.  Then Jason. Same thing the second safety on Sunday.

 

The two HG's who have not been given safety are the nominees. 

Then the HOH's have to 'claim' one of the nominees in the DR as their perspective nominees. Shelby again gets the advantage once again in being able to select which of the two nominees she wants to claim as her nominee. 

 

This is important when it comes to Veto and re-nom.  If one of the nominees wins veto the HOH who claimed that nominee is the HOH that is responsible for naming the re-nom. 

 

Also, if the eviction vote on eviction night results in a tie, the HOH who performed best in the veto is the HOH who breaks the tie. 

 

-Ok could this be any more blatantly stacked in favor of Shelby and the Plastics?  So Shelby gets to choose who is safe first each night, which means she could save both Alex and Morgan from being one of the HOH nominees.  But then, she also is allowed to be the first HOH to claim a nominee.  Why would they not at least try to make it appear fair and allow one to start both safety ceremonies and the other to be the first to claim the nominee?  LOL Seriously CBS? In the history of BB there have been many dual HOH scenarios but never in the history of any of these has one been given a huge advantage over the other.  Why were these rules not provided to the voters before the ACP was in play?  

 

-This entire set up lends to the likelihood that the two nominees will both be pawns, Shelby can obviously select the stronger of the two in hope sit that one wins veto she has the power to select the re-nom.  This wasn't a draw out of bag situation where they randomly draw to determine the order, no this was BB telling g them we have given Shelby the greater power since Jason won ACP.  Didn't we just have a Co-HOH ACP in BB 18?  We also had two seasons of two HOH's and battle of the block.  We had in All-Stars two HOH's and if it came to a tie and the HOH's couldn't agree on the re-nom the Veto winner had the authority to name their replacement.  The way this washed out all it really does is give Jason safety.  They could have just given Jason safety if that's how this dirty load was going to come out in the wash. 

 

1:25 pm cam 3/4 KIT

Shelby/Alex/Morgan/Kryssie

Kryssie asks Shelby

So ar you and Jason sleeping together?

Shelby

Idk we'll have to talk about it.  

Kryssie

He said you said two were going to showering together and he was nervous. 

S

Idk we could either, like that's beds really big its just like the noise issue with like him staying up later than me. 

Morgan

Oh like one day you, one day him.

S

Or just tell each other we'll be quiet, Idk. 

Shelby motions silently to the other two girls to meet her upstairs.

 

As Alex follows Shelby up the steps with Morgan not far behind with their food Shelby says to Alex:

I want to be able to grab the wine the second that door opens and hide it. 

 

-BB is setting up Jason's personal items in what is now also his HOH room. 

-How petty and childish can we be? You sleep in a room with lots of people every night.  This is one big room for two people.  Really the Plastics are going to hate this because they've been waiting two weeks to take over the HOH and hide out up there and not have to mingle with anyone again like they did the first 3 weeks.  It was the little pleasure I had when they were all celebrating so hard Wednesday night saying they could have 'their' private room back, knowing that Shelby was likely going to have to share it with Jason and Alex and Morgan will be stuck in the HNB with Danielle the rest of the week.  

 

1:15 pm BY Whitney/Justin

Justin explains that Danielle told him she can the numbers and has said the week Justin wants to win HOH he would have to put Whitney next to Shelby.  He says they would have the votes to send Shelby home, but he doesn't trust them to keep her safe and would need to put someone else up.

Whitney agrees they would vote her out and Justin says he could put one of them up instead but now he's sharing with her he's worried about the week he wants to win is week 7 and its gonna be crazy if he's still there.  Whitney is worried with this Co-HOH they're just gonna tell Jason oh just put Whitney up.  Justin tells her that Jason's not gonna listen to them.  Jason's gonna put Alex up. But it would be necessary for Whitney to vote Alex out and she tells him she would do that.  Justin says I already know. She says 'you know that I would' he assures her he knows that she would. 

-Whitney will 100% vote out Alex.  She knows they sacrificed her last week, she knows she can't beat Alex in the end and Alex will protect Shelby and Morgan over her and she told us in her last DR she knows Alex wants her out and doesn't think she (Alex) and beat Whitney in the end. 

 

1:27 pm cam 3/4 Plastics ULR

Alex immediately says to Shelby

So Justin came up to me and said Jason's for sure putting you up.

-That's a bold faced lie.  1:12 pm cam 1/2 SR Justin and Alex randomly end up in their together because Whitney and Justin were doing laundry and there was only one dryer sheet and he heads to SR to find more.  

When the camera changes to these two we hear Justin replying to something Alex said 

J

Oh tell me about it

A

Its always crazy though

J

So like I know you're obviously worried because 

A-cuts him off and talks over him

I'm worried like you're worried 

J

well yeah I'm no so much so worried because like I don't 

A-again she cuts him off and talks over him 

A

Its just weird now cause Idk, I feel like Jason would want me out 

J

Yeah, no Jason is for sure is gonna put you up 

Yeah

J

No doubt, Unless I could try and convince him to put Morgan up

A

Well, I will try to convince Shelby to not put you up if you try to convince Jason to not put me up.

J

Well yeah, right

A

That's all we can really do to help each other out at this point. I know it's gonna be hard.

-This was in fact both of them checking in since they each are working this fake deal to protect each other and have been since the end of week 3 when Scott bartered a deal between the two duos.  Scott fell off after J/J voted to evict him week 4 but Alex has been going to each of them on her own and keeping the conversations going every week. Since we come in after the camera cuts away from BY to them SR we only hear the tail end of whatever she said to Justin which ended with "crazy'.  They are both playing they're parts in this sham of a deal but for her to only tell Shelby that Justin randomly walked up to her said Jason was gonna put her up was Alex covering her a*s.  She knows S/J  Co-HOH means they are going to trade information and she is setting Justin up to have even more hate from Shelby knowing what Justin allegedly said to Morgan before she took her turn in the HOH Face Morph comp.

-This was a good move but if you watched it out of context you miss the actual relevance of what happened or if you only hear Alex tell Shelby her version its very skewed and misleading. Shelby goes off on yet another tangent about how Justin needs to learn to keep his big mouth shut and maybe he should understand the rules before he goes telling anyone anything.  

 

The Plastics meet alone in the HOH (2:45 pm cam 1/2) and speculate that LNC would save Whitney over Danielle. (They are not entirely wrong.)  They are still convinced Whitney promised LNC her care package (they assume all ACP's are going to them and were shocked today by Jason winning one but dismissed it and said fans are saving the last two for them because they're the best.  and saved herself from staying on the block,  

 

If you watch the two groups, LNC BY and Plastics upstairs skybridge they both come up with the exact same strategies.  Laster in the HOH room when Jason finally has a chance to talk to Shelby (3 pm cam 1/2) alone he realizes they have in fact come up with the same logic the LNC had discussed.  Jason goes immediately and reports that back to Danielle and Kryssie who joins them soon after.  Jason told Shelby he wants to target someone on his side and offers up Danielle.  He also explains that Whitney didn't make a deal that he knows of, it was more about them realizing that they were doing what Scott and Alex wanted and asked themselves why they were doing what they wanted and took her down there was no reason for them to be playing defense.  Shelby was prepared for Dani to be offered up but Jason really is selling to Shelby he wants Danielle out and has for while (which Shelby knows it true). They are both selling each other here but Jason reports everything accurately to Dani and she knows he's using this as a strategy they have already planned this out.  What he's trying to do is ensure Shelby puts up Whitney because then everyone playing in the veto will be an LNC except Shelby.  They are assuming worse case scenario America will probably put up one of the LNC.  This is very smart but hold on Jason we have different plans and your best case scenario may come to light if your fan base can put every single vote on the same person and get either Alex/Morgan up as America nom.

 

The Plastics of course are sucking up to America, they are tattling on things people have said and say "BB fam" and America we need you to put one up from their side this week. 

 

I blogged earlier today my thoughts on the smartest AN for the LNC fans to pile votes on.  Alex has a lot of momentum so wherever the majority lies by Sunday this week's America Nominee comes down to a very close margin again and whichever team you like make sure you cast your vote. 

 

That's it for the immediate responses following ACP delivery today. 

 

 

 

 

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