Krusty

If it is a must: 5) Gina Marie/Andy - both are two-faced pos that have no respect for anyone including themselves 4) GIna Marie/Andy - see above 3) Spencer - just a disgusting, lazy, nose-picking being 2) Judd - slow, but at least he played 1) McCrae - now that he is away from Amanda, the beast we saw win first HOH is back. He needs the POV's until f3 at which point he needs HOH to solidify f2. I won't hold Amanda against him because if he is dumb enough to hook up with her after the show, that's an issue he'll need to take up with his parents and a really good shrink.

Yes NYROSE. I think that the poster was referring to GM's actions and speech patterns. She was busy making racist remarks while trying to prove that she is from "the hood" ie acting AfroAmerican. Pathetic that she can't be who she is considering she mentors junior pageant contestants.

33 now, Chief. And the fact that she lost her job gives me a feeling of relief because the thought of her "mentoring" pageant children is very scary indeed. At 33, regardless of her upbringing or the environment she was raised in, a choice can and should be made about how you are going to act toward and treat people. When you are this vile, it is a choice, especially at 33 years of age. And while she may appear to be soft/hard, sweet/vile, she is still old enough to make a choice to be a decent human being or to act and carry on in such a disgusting manner. You can blame it on her environment, but many who grew up in situations far worse have made themselves into better human beings...by choice. You know what they say, those who insist on putting others down have a very dim view of themselves and very low self-esteem. Exactly how low can these people being viewing themselves?

I'm not really angry, Marty. Just disappointed at the type of bullying and disrespect shown to other humans. I don't ever recall the type of attacks being made on Elissa being made on any other previous houseguest. As I said before, it is a show. Make remarks based on a players game play, not on their appearance or on their family members. At that point, it becomes bullying and is truly unnecessary. I'd really like to believe that discussions can take place without rudeness and vileness. There are people who can carry on decent discussions, but there are also those that have to dig to the deepest depths of ignorance and depravity, and that is what I can't abide. There is so much nastiness in the world what with wars, bullying, guns etc that normal discussions are hard to come by because not everyone is going to agree. That's what debates are for, but sinking to attacking people you don't really know on a personal level, I feel is just uncalled for.

Totally agree. As do many other people's mouths. It's the way they were born. Does that make it okay to disrespect their appearance. That is called bullying, although it seems some people feel that is okay. Point made. No one refers to AJ as duckface. In fact, they think that pos homewrecker is so beautiful. (Excuse me while I toss my cookies at that thought).

You'll see a sex tape from GM and Aaryn before you could even fathom one of Elissa. Keep dreaming.

The only thing the Kardashians are famous for is being trash with big asses. If that isn't fifth string garbage, I don't know what is.

Other than Edieann, has anyone on this site used their real name? Just saying "fake names and profile pics".

Still, it was an attack on her appearance and not her game. Not necessary. Again, attacking a person on their method of play is one thing. To personally attack them is another thing all together. It's not like they are a neighbour or like we know them personally. And to attack a houseguest's family is way too far over the boundaries of decency. The families are not playing and should not be open to bashing by anyone, houseguest or poster.

I DID NOT call Marty out. I never referred to him as vile or disgusting. I simply responded to his posts (which I find much more docile compared to some others who insist on calling people names). Marty posed questions as to what made Elissa so special or a good player and I responded. Some people are way too sensitive while being vile at the same time. Marty is not on that list. As for the game, I am well aware that it is just that. My problem is to people in the house and on the boards personally attacking a persons appearance and/or family. That is stepping over the boundaries of decency. If you have to criticize those in the house, do it based on their actions and not their appearance is all I'm saying. And for goodness sake, leave their innocent family members, especially their children out of it. By the way, if BB has another season, hopefully they will require the contestants to pass some moral and psychological tests to compete.

If you look at my responses to your posts Marty, you will note that not once did I say your posts were vile etc. When responding to your posts I simply made points against what you were saying. Your posts are not rude and state your point of view without attacking the players. You think Elissa is a ding-dong. That is a lot less offensive than what others are calling her. I enjoy your posts. The people I refer to as vile most likely know exactly who they are by what they post. I'm not saying that one's opinion should not be allowed to be posted, I just think it could be done with a lost less venom. After all, all we know about these people is what we see on feeds and on air. The people in the house are dealing with each other and take matters way overboard, but for people to post such venom is no better. I do not find your posts offensive and if you believe that I said otherwise, I am sorry if you took it personally. It was a general comment aimed at those that are truly vile in their statements about people they don't know. I guess this is how my friend got censored, because someone took their posts personally when someone had the nerve to disagree with the way they vent about people they don't really know other than through the media.

GM is hardly a Caucasian. At least she's trying to act like she isn't.

Wow. I usually only read the others comments on these pages. I don't usually respond, but the trash coming from some of these people is just as bad, if not worse than the stuff that came spewing from the mouths of the houseguests. Although the hgs had no call to make the ignorant remarks they did, they were at least in the house with this woman. The people on this forum hate her. Why? Now I know why I only read and haven't posted until now. And I hear that some people get censored on here. Are they the ones with the decency to not attack on a personal level, either the houseguests or the other posters? Must be, because there is way too much hatred spewing from quite a few people who seem to think that only their opinion is right while totally bashing anyone they disagree with. I'm done and out. You people are ridiculous. I wouldn't want to have to be anywhere near you during any kind of discussion about decency. Edieann, I enjoyed reading your posts. If there was a way to block the nasty, vile stuff posted by others, then it would be nice to share posts without having to deal with the vulgarity of some of the others on here. I just wanted you to know that.

Try winning two very needed POV's and an HOH in addition to avoiding all the nastiness. That made her a good player. That and not allowing anyone else to disrupt her mind-set. Add in patience, class and the ability to still have to deal with the trash that filled the house on a daily basis and there you have it. She is a lot smarter than those who don't like her give her credit for. As for the McCrae thing on the way out, it could have been because he told her earlier this week that Amanda was ruining his game. Doesn't seem so dumb now, does it? She did a good job in the game; kept an alliance, managed to stay in the game since being a target from day one; won two POV's and one HOH. Voted with the house until she got her HOH, then stirred things up. Got Aaryn out of the house. She was blind-sided by Judd who lied to her about using the POV on her. She also managed to stay in that cesspool of a house and keep her wits about her when everyone treated her like the plague. If that isn't enough to put her in position for America's Player, I don't know what does. There is certainly very few others that deserve it. WOW, you're a great press agent. I'm sure Aaryn & GM could use your help. I think the guys want GM to think McCrae is next target. He made a deal with the guys earlier last week for final four. Don't want a female to win it. Although, GM's balls seem to be bigger than all the guys put together (in her mind) I really think she is their target this week. If not, then next week. I honestly think that McCrae and Andy have a final two deal. I really think I heard McCrae slip a couple weeks ago about the others finding out about his "original f2 deal". Makes me think Andy is it since he's been piggy-backing on McCrae practically since day one. And let's face it, Andy will go with anyone willing to take him. You'd think so, right? Some people take a dislike to others in these forums disagreeing with them and take things personally that are not even aimed at them. Then the person they dislike gets censored. Somewhat childish that they can dole out criticisms but can't take anyone disagreeing with their ideals, whether they are right or wrong. In case you weren't paying attention, whether she teamed up with Amanda or not, she was out the door simply based on the fact that the other hg's (except Judd) didn't like her for whatever petty reasons their pea-brains decided to go with. For a person who was basically playing on her own from the beginning, to make it as far as she did while winning comps and keeping her ideals in place makes her one of the best players this season. She didn't have to resort to the scuzzy tactics and attacks of the other hgs. That makes her a strong player.