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11:25pm BBT: Ian tells Dan he could've stayed up on that thing forever. Explains how he tried to make it look like he fell but he did it on purpose. Dan walks out of KT and Ian walks into bathroom, does a little dance. He is muttering under his breath (as usual) so it's hard to hear but I made out the word 'scumbag.'

Haha I love that I was wrong.

9:22pm BBT: Dan is still trying to convince Danielle to drop. At first it sounded like she said she would "drop soon" and she said was asking Dan to swear on Chelsea. Dan says something about "my duty as a coach." Danielle just said "I'm not falling." So, it sounded like he almost had her convinced but now not so sure. Danielle is down! Dan wins!!!

No way Danielle will throw this in order to go toe to toe with Ian in part II... I don't think. But I think Dan will still win this regardless.

Ian is down.

Feeds back. Dan, Ian, Danielle, hanging on hooks getting rained on. All 3 still in. (looks kind of like the endurance comp that Dan won in BB10)

I kind of agree but I really don't care if he did or not. He's still playing the best game and at least he's not acting all high and mighty while he's lying like some of the other players (aka highhorse Frank).

Dan has made this game so much more exciting than it would have been otherwise. I love that Captain America is gone and Dan is in the F3 with two people who would take him to the end (at least that's how it seems right now). I know he could still lose but if he gets to the F2 he is the best player ever, imo. No matter what the jury decides. Loving Dan soooo much right now. PS - What is with them not starting part 1 of the final HOH on the live show? Feeds are still down so I Imagine they are starting it but why are they blocking us?

Thank you Cecimom, I love you for making my day!

She's playing for 2nd no matter what.

I think Dan needs to convince Danielle that Shane will vote Dan out so she changes the noms. Then Dan should vote out Shane. Either Danielle or Ian would take Dan to the F2 if Dan doesn't win final HOH. But...I think Danielle will keep it the same and let Shane vote.

10:46am BBT: Dan and Danielle in the KT talking (whispering) about how Jenn is going to be so pissed when she finds everything out, mentions they just needed an insurance policy and it just happened to be a 37 yr old rocker chick from Brooklyn. She's gonna lose it. 10:46am BBT: Danielle tells Dan to sit down and starts to tell him about last night. Dan says "I'm an idiot. I figured out what you were doing later." [trying to get Shane not to use the POV since Danielle is so scared of going on the block]. 10:47am BBT: Danielle asks Dan why would she be scared of going on the block. He says he knows. Danielle - "Come on Dannnn!" Dan said he figured it out so late while he was looking at the ceiling and said to himself "oh fuck." Danielle asks if he really thought she was trying to get him put up on the block. Dan says no. Danielle says "Yes you did." Dan swears he didn't but asks how far she got into it before he walked in. Danielle whispers "I was just getting to the part where he was going to say 'well I could not use it' [never happened] and then *pop* you walked in. Well there that goes," 10:48am BBT: Danielle continues to tell Dan the conversation between her and Shane but leaves out the parts where she was throwing Dan under the bus. She also makes it sound like Shane was suspicious of Dan but she talked him out of it [she was feeding into Shane's suspicions of Dan, not deflecting as she tells Dan]. She continues to try to make Dan feel bad for even thinking she was doing something against him. Dan tells her she can try again tonight. He asks Danielle if she thinks Ian threw POV, Danielle says yes then says maybe he didn't. Dan says maybe Ian told Shane he'd throw it if Shane takes him to the F2. Danielle doesn't think so and says Shane swears that all Ian talks about is the Quack Pack. She says Ian truly thinks she hates Dan. Danielle says she probably knows she's going up and it doesn't scare her but Shane doesn't need to know that. Dan asks Danielle what her main reason would be to get him not to use it [the veto] when she talks to him tonight, and asks Danielle what she can say that she's done for Shane. 10:50am BBT: Dan says when Shane talks about Marcellas she cannot let him dwell on that. Danielle says Janelle's the one who told him the story. Dan says again she can't let him think about that. Danielle says it's already in his mind but she'll try again. She tells Dan he really freaked her out because of what he was thinking and it was the exact opposite. She said she wanted to say "You really think I want you on the block. I'd probably self-sacrifice before I'd put you on the block." but she can't say that in front of Shane. That's why she was glaring at him (Dan) last night. 10:51am BBT: Dan asks what Shane was talking about when he said he was going to go talk to Ian and tell him he's going to go talk to Ian. Danielle says Shane was just going to go up to talk to Ian and tell him he was going to use it on himself and just see who he's putting up. She quickly changes the subject to Shane saying he was going to sleep in the other bed (not with Danielle) so Dan thinks Danielle will take Dan to the F2. She didn't know he was going to do that and it's just getting worse. Dan says something about how Danielle talked him out of back-dooring Shane and something about if she told Shane that. Danielle said no I didn't talk you out of it in 10 seconds [This is hard to hear but maybe he's talking about the live eviction where he didn't put Shane up against Joe]. Dan says "You did." Danielle says she was just saying "Bad idea, bad idea, bad idea." Dan says "No you didn't, you looked scared at me like don't do this." Danielle says that was because it hit her out of nowhere. Danielle starts talking about Jenn. WBRB 10:53am BBT: Danielle saying but for real she's going to do it and say to Shane, "you know how much I've done for you?" Dan says to Danielle "You know how much I've done for you? You came in here like a little seed and you've flowered like an angry Venus Fly Trap." Tells her all these flies come in and she attracts them with her nectar then slurps them up. Dan saying "and you know it too. And I'm cool with that." Danielle laughing, Dan walks away.

10:13am BBT: Ian in HOH room getting out of bed after being told to change his batteries. He says "Let's get this shit done" to himself before walking downstairs. Does he mean batteries or the events of the day? [could the POV meeting be today since we know there is an eviction show on Wednesday (pre-taped) and therefore probably a Tuesday eviction?]

Ian and Dan have a "F2." Dan convinced Ian to put up Shane in order to control Danielle's vote since Ian thinks Shane/Danielle are so tight, neither would vote the other out. Ian also said, if Shane came down, Danielle would go up. The reasoning was to make sure Shane/Danielle couldn't vote together and decide to pull a "fast one" by evicting Dan. The issue is whether Ian really trusts Dan or really wants him in the F2 with him. He has been all about QP to F4 but he could be re-thinking. He could also be thinking of letting Shane/Danielle decide so, if they do evict Dan, the blood isn't on Ian's hands.

I agree with some of your points. You say Shane is onto Dan but I wonder if he's onto Danielle, too? Danielle was 100% on board with evicting Shane if the noms had stayed the same and is now trying to get Shane on board with trying to get Dan on the block (despite the fact that she told Dan earlier she should tell Ian she wants to be the pawn). I think Dan is very smart and can outplay almost anyone but these HGs seem a little smarter than we've been giving them credit for. Jenn isn't exactly and idiot and has to be doing some thinking with all her isolation from the other HGs. She may just be thinking up her own plan in how to convince Ian to put up Dan and evict him in case of a tie. Danielle certainly isn't planning on offering herself up as the pawn despite what she told Dan. She is tailoring her conversations to fit whoever she speaks to. Shane isn't as dumb as we thought since he "had a feeling" if he didn't win veto he'd be gone. He talks about Dan talking to Jenn a lot and that they were probably scheming against him but I don't think the fact that Danielle spent a lot of time with Jenn the other night or her rudeness to Shane helped him feel secure, either. Ian is obviously getting exasperated with Dan's constant need for reassurance about their F2 and, although his muttering is very hard to hear, some of the comments which could be heard make it sound like he's considering getting Dan out before F4. He is probably a little worried that, without Dan, he has to win the F4 POV or is gone, though, but Dan is also competition for him. I have a bad feeling for Dan this week but then I had a bad feeling while he was in solitary confinement a couple weeks ago and he came out of that situation in a great spot...however, we have the DR, Dairy Queen, or The Wizards. Whatever you want to call the people influencing the HGs and making them think about all their options. We've heard snippets of the HGs talking about how they try to manipulate them. Producers didn't want Captain America out before F4 so they (producers) were probably filling Shane's head with conspiracy theories, they gave them a POV which was right up Shane's alley, and he came through for them and won. I can't really see "the powers that be" wanting Jenn to stay over Dan this week but the HGs don't always do what production wants them to do. It's going to be a tense few days before the POV ceremony and, depending on who goes up, the next eviction.

[awkward moment] 2:06am BBT: Meanwhile in the sneaker bedroom, Danielle & Shane talking. Danielle tells Shane she's scared of going on the block. Shane says he's gonna have a conversation with Ian but it's not going to matter. Danielle says she's scared of Dan's vote. Shane says "for real, why?" She says she doesn't know. Then Shane says Dan's been talking a lot with Jenn and kept bringing up that they don't want to tell Jenn because she might start spreading lies about stuff and he's trying to cover. Danielle says she wonders if Ian and Dan have a F2. Shane says they might and that's why they need to start talking to Ian and trying to tell him they (Danielle/Shane) aren't together. He says they are in separate beds now as if that's proof. He confirms his F2 with Danielle and reminds her how Dan treated Danielle with his speech. She agrees and adds Dan put her on the block. Shane says Dan's in it to win [isn't everybody?]. Shane says he guarantees Dan made a deal with Jenn last night to take Jenn off if he had won veto so Danielle would go up and Jenn/Dan could vote Shane out [Danielle actually made a deal with Jenn last night to vote Shane out if he lost POV]. Dan walks in mid-sentence and Shane doesn't cover well. He says "What's up, dude?" quickly and it's very obvious they've been scheming. Dan asks what they were talking about and jokes and asks if they're gonna scumbag him. Shane was saying he was just talking about going to pitch to Ian because Dani's gotta worry about going on the block. Dan asks "what's there to worry about?" and says, "so you want me on the block?" [shane tries to cover but not doing a good job because it's obvious if Danielle doesn't go up, Dan goes up.] Dan keeps pointing this out and Shane is trying to laugh it off and then Danielle acts put-off that Dan is thinking that. Danielle/Shane continue to try to play it off. Dan acts why Danielle is nervous about going on the block but says it's probably going to be him. Shane tells them he shook their hands week 3 and is 100% on board. Dan keeps joking about how he walked in on the middle of "Let's get Dan on the block tomorrow." Dani/Shane deny it. Dan says he believes them. 2:13am BBT: Shane says he's probably going to use it on himself but he doesn't have to. Dan says he likes where Shane is going with this since Danielle is so nervous about going on the block. Dan says "oh so you guys were trying to get me out?" Danielle asks "are you serious?" and says she's going to get fuming mad. Dan says he's joking. Shane says Dan is just trying to push Danielle's buttons. Talk turns casual about what the last HOH will be. Dan chatting casually but his jaw muscles are visibly tensing while he's listening. 2:17am BBT: Talk turns back to how Danielle is nervous about going up. Dan says it's either going to be Danielle going on the block, Dan going on the block or Shane not using veto. Shane tells the story of Marcellas not using veto and being voted out. Dan casually adds that Marcellas was a floater and wasn't in an alliance or anything. [Danielle and Shane are acting like two deer caught in headlights and exchanging glances during this whole exchange] Dan starts reading Bible versus to them.

2:07am BBT: Ian is rocking on the hammock. Jenn sleeping, Danielle/Shane in bed talking. Dan comes out to the backyard to talk to Ian and asks if he's told Danielle yet. Ian says no, we have a while but he says Danielle will be fine [being on the block]. Dan asks Ian "I don't want to look too far ahead but, say it's you and Shane in the Final HOH and you win...You're taking me over Shane?" Ian seems a bit frustrated and says "YES! God, you ask me that every day! Every Day!" He tells Dan that Shane is more risky to take anyway because he's won so much. Dan says it's the first time he's asked him that. Ian says he hasn't asked him that specifically but he asks him daily if he's sure he'll take him to the F2. He says "Yes, Dan, yes! I'll take you to the F2! Yes, yes, yes! Let's focus on getting to that F2. I gotta win that [F4 veto]." Dan says, "Not necessarily." Dan nonchalantly asks if anyone has ever won the F4 HOH and the F4 veto. Ian says Hayden has and tells him he put Lane up against Britney so Enzo would vote out Britney. He laughs and says "Alright dude, I won't ask you that anymore. Alright, Goodnight man. Good job today." Dan heads inside. Ian continues to rock on the hammock but makes hand gestures and mutters to himself [he seems frustrated and/or annoyed by Dan.]

She is pretty much isolating herself but I haven't seen Dan or Danielle try to hang out with her like they usually do. The Quack Pack have been hanging together all night. I'm sure Jenn feels pretty alone right now but she kind of brings it on herself. I'm just waiting for her to out Dan to Ian before the POV meeting in order to save herself. I think she'll either try to blow Dan up or just go out quietly...not sure which yet.

BBT 1:36am (Feeds 3&4) Dan & Ian playing chess outside the HOH. Danielle popping her zits in the bathroom. Shane has headed to bed. Jenn is sleeping.

1:24am BBT (Feed 2): Danielle is bandaging Dan's hand in the bathroom with Shane looking on. Dan tells Shane "The Live Feeders gets so pissed when you sing cause the feeds get cut off." Shane is surprised.

I don't see Dan voting Danielle out over Jenn. He wanted both Jenn and Danielle with him in F3 but he definitely trusts Danielle to take him even if it means going into F3 with Danielle/Ian or Danielle/Shane. There is no way in hell Dan wants to risk going into F3 with Shane/Ian.

She told Dan she might tell Ian she would volunteer because she wouldn't be able to guarantee that she wouldn't vote Dan out. Since Ian wants it to be a Quack Pack F4 she thinks that would entice him to put her up instead of Dan. Her ulterior motive is that she doesn't want to have to vote against Jenn and lose her jury vote. I'm not convinced that she didn't just tell Dan that to make him trust her more, though. I can't really see her volunteering to be nominated at F5.

Awww come on. We need a Marcellas moment in this season.

Ian heads up to the HOH room while the 3 other QPers are playing cards. [Okay, since I can't stand Shane's voice or his snapping, singing, knocking, etc, anymore, I'm out.]