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As far as I'm concerned, it almost doesn't matter because Andy is out.... THANK GOD! Jessie just feel. 7:37 BBT

Live feed are back 7:28 BBT. No winner yet.

After the first two weeks, nobody in this house wants to take any risks, they are always presuring the HoH to do it. Maybe Helen, Amanda or Elissia would, but since they not been HoH since the start, we have no idea if they really would. Helen lost her power\influence becauses he has not won HoH since (or PoV). If she had won one 1-2 more times, she would be OK now.

I love it when I hear: "Andy please go the diary doom". just so I don't have to listen to him

4:10 BBT GM: "I wish I had a Dick. If I had one, I be whacking it all the F'ing time" Aaryn: "No way" GM: "I sure would" I am surprised GM gets any TV time simply because 90% of the time she opens her mouth, the work "F*CK" comes outs. In the past 5 minutes she has said the word "F*CK" 56 times (estimate).

Sure, if the producers want Judd to win (or whomever), they will could easily make it happen, and create an illusion that he won fair and square.... Seriously, do we want a game where the winner is predetermined, and everything else is a fake illusion.

Weasel is right.... Normally I am pretty damn tolerant of HGs and their different styles of play. Its a game, so people got to figure out how to win the best way they know how. And to Andy's credit, he's still in the game while others have been evicted.... BUT, listening to him brown nose everyone is akin to listening to someone constantly whining. He is not whining of course, but the sound of his voice is like the sound of finger nails on the chalkboard to my ears. I want him evicted simply so I don't have to listen to him anymore saying BS like "I've got your back..." to every single HGs

Saturday night?

If anyone should come back, it should be Helen simply because she's the last person evicted. IMHO, NEVER EVER should an evicted HG be allowed back in the game once evicted (eviction = LOST). The only time I would think might it be OK is if the HGs knew in advance that one of the 4 evicted HGs has a chance to return, that way they can strategically consider it as part of their game plan as to who they want evicted.

On the feeds right now Andy is lying so much directly to Helen's face it is enough to make anyone barf. Yes, its all fair in terms of game play, but it sure does make make my stomach turn to listening to him spew BS to her: "I have your back Helen, if even nobody else does. you're my best friend in the house, and I would never lie to you ever, you know that! I will do everything in my power to save you, even if it means I have to get evicked!" And you bet your life savings, that later he will be saying\lying something like this to other HGs when Helen is not around: "Helen makes me sick, she wants me to throw myself under the bus just so she can stay. Can you believe she wants me to volunteer to go on the block and then ask everyone to vote me out. She's total moron to think I am going to hand over 500K to her. She is the last person I want to see win BB. She doesn't even belong here in the first place!" Please God, let anybody else win BB other than this gay butt licking lying smuck. He has his nose so far up everyone's butt that he puts gay people to shame.

I don't have a problem with lying in the game, but there is a limit to it. IMHO its perfectly OK for a HG to lie about the game and say "She told that she got the MVP last week and that is why she nominated you". Going too far is when the HGs makes up lies about the lives of HGs outside of the house, Fictional example : "she's a total whore, she told me had sex with 5 guys in one day a week after she got married"

Its 3am PST\BBT, and they have been trash talking about Elissa for at least 1 hour (Everyone's in the HoH room except Helen and Elissa). She's not my favorite HG either, but they way they talk about her you'd think she loves to torture kittens, slap old ladies, steal money from the poor, thinks rape is funny, hopes her parent die so she can get their money....you get the idea. Andy is one of the worst about it to "I never talk game with her, and when she tries to talk game with me, she telling all kinds of lies about everyone here, I hate her more than anyone I've ever hated in my life, I can't think of a bigger bitch! she's a whore because that the only job she can get." My bet is that Andy has had sex with far more guys than Elissa has.

Here is my opinion.... The whole returning HG twist is designed to give Judd a chance to return. Why?... because he was the most popular HG to the TV audience and it blindsided producers when he got evicted during the double eviction. Prior to the Double eviction, he was not one of the top 3 targets, so it was a good time to have a double eviction because there was a 95% chance he was safe, but there was a very unexpected scamble that caused the house to evict him. If had a been a normal week, and he had simply put on the block, the other HGs would have decided to evict someone else. Given there was no time to fully consider their votes, Judd was evicted because he had no chance talk people out it....which is why double eviction SUCKs, its give the second evicted no chance to play BB and save himself. The producers took a gamble and lost a very safe bet. They never want to want a popular HG to be evicted EVER, so they always stack the deck in a manner the best helps popular HGs, but in this case they lost the bet even when it appeared that Judd was very safe during double eviction week. How is this fair to the HGs who have never been evicted once. When do they get their chance to come back after being evicted. The currenlty evicted HGs have techically lost BB already, but are allowed back in the game through a hidden back door. Why not allow all the other evicted HGs a chance to return? Why just first four Jury members..... I'm basically saying if they are going let HGs backin the game, why not all the evicted HGs, or even someone from a past season, or someone totally new....

EEKKK. WOW... a HG gets to come back in the game and is safe for a week too? I'm not trying to be mean or nasty here, but those four HGs already technically LOST BB by have been evicted once, now and not only would they be brought back into the game, but safe for 1 week while another HG gets evicted? When does that HG have a chance get to come back into the game? So returning HG is safe after having been evicted once, while 1-2 more other HGs are evicted in the mean time. WOW, that one damn amazing deal for those who have already lost BB15. As I posted previously. Consider sports where player or teams eliminated from the playoffs get to come back for a chance to win, while the remain teams have no chance to come back after they loose.... Bizarreo World maybe.

Like when Aryn was talking about how in middle school she would make fun of heavy set girls calling them "Miss Piggy" or "The Piggy Pack" just to see if she could get them to cry.

Has anyone else notice the pattern of how the HGs immediately isolate\ostracize the next HG that is targeted to for eviction? It practically happens right after the last person walks the door, they start trash talking more about one person far more than other others. It's a bit like watching Lord Of The Flies. This week it will be Elissa I think. In general, BB fans enjoy when a season has two sides that go after each other, with 2-3 floaters. IMHO, that is how the producers cast the show every season in terms of chemistry; the producers pick people who they feel will gravitate toward one side or the other and struggle for control of the house. This season was busted with that two side model because it is a single minded house, and its really about a pecking order of who is least liked or has weakest connections with the other HGs.

Also, I wonder if the 4 evicted HGs will be asked "How much of the 500K are you willing to give up if you return and win BB 15?" ..... seems like in previous season this was the question asked when HGs were allowed back in the game.... The answer of course is "All 500K" because its a trick question to find out who really wants to win BB15; if they aren't willing to give it all up, they lack the passion\obsession required to win. They already lost the 500K when they were evicted the first time....lol. ....Or maybe they will be asked something similar, except it would be some other penalty that puts them at a huge disadvantage to the other players (thus somewhat more fair to the remaining HGs), such as "How many times are you willing to go the block in the remaining weeks?".... once again, the answer would be "Every week". Why not?, since the HG has already was evicted and technically lost BB.

Just doesn't seem fair to the remaining HGs unless the returning HG is put at a significant disadvantage for having already been evicted once. That HG should have no chance to win BB, and should be limited to no better than 3rd place (automatically evicted if getting that far). I think the returning HG should be automatically put on the block, and the other HGs can decided that week if they want to re-evict or get rid of someone else. Not fair that the remaining HGs get sent to jury without a chance to come back when they already managed to out last the HG who got lucky enough to return. Being evicted once means it has been proven already that HG already lost the game. Imagine in a sport fighting your way through the playoffs, only to have a eliminated team return to the playoffs after having lost, and they are given a second chance to beat your team after you've beaten them once. If they beat you the second time around you go home. WTF, doesn't it matter that you were better the first time? When do you get your second chance to come back?

At this point, I mostly just don't want him to win. I don't care who else wins or doesn't win, as long as Andy does not come in #1 or #2. He's as bad as Dr. Smith on Lost In Space, you just want to grab the guy, shove him into the airlock, and jettison him into space just to get some peace & quite In all the years that I've been watching BB, there has not been a person I want to see on the block more than this fairy.... Sorry, this fruitcake just gets on my nerves more than anyone ever has who has played the game, and there has been some REALLY annoying HGs in the past, but Andy beats them all.

It probably is a very cheap twist with huge ratings win. It gives the TV audience a sense they can determine the outcome of the game by voting to help and\or hurt HGs.

Fair enough. Sometimes I do over-think things. I'm most PO'ed about the whole MVP thing and don't want BB to become an endless series of America's vote to give some players advantages\disadvantages every flipping week. BS like this could easily become part of game each week: "America who do you want to be safe this week with a super secret immunity vote. If voted out by the HGs, your favorite HGs gets to stay in the game" "America who do you want to be HoH next week?" "America you have the POV, who do you want to pull off the block?" "America, its been 10 weeks, which evicted HG do you want to bring back into the house?" "America you get to decide who wins BB, vote today who you want to win BB"

Let's hope so.... But I suspect it will be back in some form next season. I don't mind America voting on food and things don't put specific player at advantage or give a player an advantage. Sure. 100% for voting on how to screw with all them equally. Targeting one player with america vote, ruins the game.

Because HGs like andy never do anything to offend anyone or attempt to make any games moves on their own. The MVP vote punishes people for being good hardcore players, and it promotes being wish-washy. I am saying the MVP vote will result in game play more like Andy. Not exactly of course, and maybe not brown nosing all the time, just sitting around agree with each other as if they are all best friends, and then go in the Diary room and say "Oh i love everyone, everything is fine, I can't think of a single thing to complain about.... America vote for me to be the the MVP"

Ok, i can't deny that he playing a decent game, but..... I can't stand listening to him on the feeds or BBAD. He is the biggest Brown Noser in BB history. I literally have to mute the TV if he's on for more than 5 minutes, I just can't handle him kissing ass all the GD time...... If MVP lovers get their way, and the MVP vote becomes a regular part of BB, Andy's brown nosing will be adopted by future HGs simply because his brown nosing is simply to agree 110% with whom ever he is with at any point in time. Never actually says anything other than spread gossip and agree with others. Barf! Barf! Barf! Barf!

Based on the talk in the BB house, who's the biggest target to go home this week?