kywildcat

Exactly. He sold his soul and now he has no idea how to get it back.

You can re-watch the end of the show and hear what Elissa said to Judd. She didn't whisper at all. She was quite loud. If I remember correctly, she said, "This had nothing to do with me."

I'm getting botox today! Christmas in August and I'm excited. (my son-in-law/daughter have an aesthetics business so I'll get it at cost or it would never happen.) Agree with all of the above. I think Elissa is a lovely person, inside and out.

So I read that Helen FINALLY figured out that Andy has more loyalty to McCranda than to her, so she told Elissa last night. Too late, imo. How she couldn't figure that one out sooner is beyond me. They have no one they could flip or trust at this point. Everyone will run straight to Amanda the Queen and rat them out in order to keep her majesty's fury off them. Every word that comes out of Andy's mouth is a pat on the back for himself regarding how he's playing the game. He thinks he's already got it won (and he might), being completely invincible. Helen and the rest have underestimated and ignored Andy for the most part, leaving them ignorant/blinded to his tactics. I think most all of them are so arrogant and self-absorbed, being convinced that their own gameplay is above all others, they can't see that others are on equal or better footing as they. (Jessie and Elissa being the exception but no one bothers to listen to them.)

I think it would be better drama if Jessie won HOH and put up Judd...and he got voted out. Judd's been an a$$ lately. He's crushing on Aryan but GM is more his type.

Yeah, I saw Helen reassuring Amanda during her little meltdown in the BY. I was hoping Helen figured it out, especially since it all happened so quickly... Helen discussed voting out Amanda with Andy Andy immediately told Mcmanda Amanda had a breakdown saying she felt like her ppl were turning on her --all within what? a half hour? Surely Helen had sense enough to put that together.

Go back and watch after Judd leaves Mcmanda alone. Mcpizza figures it out that Judd wants all guys at the end, which is ironic since Judd constantly goes on about Elissa wanting an all girl alliance. Judd, before he talked to Mcmanda last night, told Spencer he wanted himself/spence/mcpizza/andy at the end. Mcpizza thinks Judd's lying about everything. (imo, Mcpizza's still focused solely on protecting his "queen.") Judd wants everyone targeting Helen/Elissa next, keeping the target off himself. He is somewhat protecting Jessie too because he wants her in jury for her vote. As much as I detest Amanda, she and Mcpizza are playing a very good game. Judd's getting a little too cocky. Andy is playing the snitch very successfully so far, leaving everyone trusting him completely, which amazes me. (I always hate the snoopy snitches.) Andy may have went too far yesterday though when he ratted out Helen to Mcmanda. Amanda has a hard time keeping her mouth shut. If she tells Helen that she knows what her plan was, Helen won't trust Andy anymore (unless Andy deflects the blame elsewhere and she buys it.)

I'm just hoping for a Helen and Amanda showdown. The both demand complete loyalty and have no use for anyone they can't completely control. Sooner or later though, they're going to clash, when they run out of the necessary minions.

I think the collar is hilarious but it may be just because of who's wearing it. I laugh everytime I see her with that big cone on, especially when she was reclined on the hoh bed, surrounded by her pictures, watching Candice in her clownitard on the tv screen and making fun of her public humiliation, while saying to herself, "It's good to be HOH." That was some seriously funny ****. I thought the bullhorn for Spencer was funny too and I can't wait to see Amanda rockin' 50 layers of fake tan.

That's what I've said about the MVP twist from the beginning. It gives us a voice...but it's so irritating that none of the hg's have sense enough to listen. Why can't they put 2 and 2 together and figure out that we see everything and we're trying to tell them something? Helen had figured it out when Elissa was being voted MVP but none of them seem to realize what's going on now. They slightly entertain the possibility and then disregard it.

Amen. She has been playing a really great game but who would want to award $500k to such a nasty person? That would be a travesty.

I haven't voted yet but am leaning towards Amanda again. I would hope the hg's would take the opportunity to get rid of her, knowing opportunity rarely knocks twice.

Either the hoh will nom 3 or they'll use the opportunity to transition back to a 2 nom game

I agree. Payback's a b****. I think Elissa sees exactly how crude and trashy most of these women are and she took that opportunity to point it out. Amanda dressed like a slutty dominatrix and then got offended that Elissa said she looked as if she worked in a strip joint? Lol, that's ridiculous. I thought it was funny but I also thought it probably wasn't best for Elissa's game. Nevertheless, they still want to keep her around to use her for a vote. Oh well...I'd likely do the same and not in such a subtle way. I like that Elissa doesn't take their crap, even tho it will surely get her evicted soon.

Agree. It would be a week's worth of great drama. Amanda thinks America loves her and I'd love to see the inevitable meltdown when she realizes she's not so popular. I don't think she'd be evicted over Howard but if she were, we'd get to see mcpizza play the game, or not. I've been sick of that shomance from the start. I'd like to know if mcpizza possesses cojones or if they go out the door with Amanda.

Amanda X 10

Early this morning (about 4am) Mcpizza was telling Amanda that he needed about a month after the show to go home and take care of some things. She didn't like that. She wants him in FL immediately. She took it to mean he needed time to square some things with his ex-gf. He didn't deny it either. Mcpizza told Amanda that she wouldn't like him IRL. I think he knows it won't work but she, being the control freak she is, wants him in FL under her thumb. Bunnies will boil before this is over.

I have a hard time understanding him too. I don't know anyone who speaks like he does. He could easily pursue a career in ventriloquism.

She'll go off into oblivion, never to be heard from again...like Maggie, only Maggie was half a mil richer.

Lol. I knew you'd be back soon. I thought when I read that this morning..."who is she trying to kid?" We're all hopelessly addicted to bb, doomed to be pathetic together.

As for being at the finale (if she goes before jury) after she gets out and sees what the public's reaction was/is, she might just tell CBS, "sue me." I would if I were in her shoes.

Yeah, ppl in chat were going nuts over the abortion comment...."Elissa's a terrible person because she doesn't condone abortion." The way I look at it, if Kaitlin didn't care to tell a couple of complete strangers she just had an abortion, then she likely doesn't care who knows. I'll have to go back and listen again but the way I took it, she had the abortion so she could be on BB.

Willie??

IKR?! What a buzzkill.

#*($@! grrrrrr...I don't know how these things happen when all the polls showed it would be Amanda. Well, I do know and it ticks me off.