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I'll believe the dad who wrote the blog about his contest winner daughter/s who were treated so rudely by Ariana, virtually ignored and ordered to delete their pictures. I don't know how they stayed calm. I'd have cursed the little diva up one side and down the other. A picture/autograph isn't worth it to me though. I wouldn't walk across the street to meet a pop star diva.

I hope that BB reconsiders if the booing thing is to be permitted now. To be clear, I can't stand Christine or Frankie. The only one I have liked this season is Donny. Still, I cringed when Christine was boo'd. I think booing them is a little extreme and reminds me of a crowd screaming for blood. Maybe we could throw them to the lions instead. I'm sure it's merely 'innocent' fun to most, being able to publicly make known their anger/dislike toward a specific hg, but a public display like that might be life-altering to someone who is mentally fragile, who is there to play a game and try to win some cash (or get a foot in the door of their imaginary fame world) and they made some stupid mistakes while there. I'll forget most of their names by Halloween, therefore, I have no desire to see any of them really hurt. I figure they'll know soon enough (from reading the forums) exactly how the public viewed them. Opinions are forever plastered all over the wide, wide world of web. I see no reason to nationally, publicly humiliate them live on tv too, but that's just me. I can rag 'em out with the best of 'em here at Morty's though!

Until she said that last night, I just don't know why I couldn't see it before. She really is running the show. When I first heard of this plan, I thought it would be a plan to save Vic. I watched the convos and all I could get was that Vic was trying to ensure Derek gets to the end, with no thought to her own game. Her entire game has been played as a Derek minion/pawn. She's going to feel like a complete idiot when this is over. And I saw where Derek was talking to himself after he convinced Vic to do his bidding and he told Dan, "I'm gonna make you proud." He probably will since Vic is much less of a player than Danielle M. was but how much work does it take to manipulate a complete moron who totally trusts you? In Derek's case, it's what he does for a living. He should be very good at it.

Yep, you're right 6Borders. Season 4 was Jun's season ...S5=Cowboy/Drew/Diana ...S6=Janelle vs nerd herd ...S7=Allstars ...S8=EvelDick ...S9=Adam (worst season ever, next to S15) ...S10=Dan/Memphis (is that right?) ...S11=Jordan/Jeff ...S12=The Brigade -Britney and Brenchal's 1st season ...S13=Brenchal and JeJo -Rachel's win ...S14=Ian w/coaches ...S15=??? I've successfully erased that horrid season from my mind. I don't recall who was on it. Does anyone know how Britney's baby is doing?

stevea11...I believe Cowboy and Drew's season was S4. S8 was Evel Dick's season.

I agree, GreatSaltLuke. Derek has played a nearly flawless game and if he wins, I see him taking the spotlight as the best bb player ever. He's combined some of Dan's strategy and The Brigade's unbeatable dominance from day one and it very likely will make him bb16's winner. I think Frankie has played an amazing game as well, albeit very different from Derek's under-the-radar, secret-savior-of-all gameplay. Donny's the only one who actually figured him out from the get-go therefore Derek seen to it that Donny was ousted. They'll all regret that they didn't listen to Donny from the beginning when he was telling them that Derek was "the ringleader." I think it's hilarious that Caleb believes he's the founder/leader of the BS. Derek has a real skill with making others feel far more important than they are. I just wish I could happily cheer for someone.

I don't have any faves left in the house but I think it would be hilarious if Derek, Caleb and Vic were F3, Caleb wins final hoh and decides to take Victoria to the end...since Derek told Caleb, "You go to the end with who you know you can beat." It would be a good game move and the only way Caleb would win, imo. For the record, I can't stand Caleb because of his arrogance but I can't stand any of the rest of them for various reasons either.

Lol...explains a lot, huh?

After watching the picture thing, I think Cody initially thought Jana was Derek's brother...that's why he asked "is this your brother?," then said "why did I think that?" almost immediately after. Cody was embarrassed he had said that. That's when Derek decided it was an unflattering photo of his wife and didn't want it shown. jmo

Wasn't that hard to convince Caleb...since he believes he can easily beat any of them anyway. The only one in that house Caleb could have ever beaten was Victoria.

Maybe he will pull a Chima and toss his mic in the hot tub, like she did when Jeff's special power erased her week as hoh. Such bitter players sometimes.

I think Derek could beat any of them too but does Derek think that?

I watched Derek and Caleb talking the other day and Derek said something to Caleb that Caleb should have sat up and taken note of; he said, "The person you take to the end is the person you know you can beat." Seemed to have went right over Caleb's head but it made me wonder if Derek has every intention of taking Vic, if he wins final hoh.

I saw that conversation on the feeds. Derek was fishing for compliments from Nicole then when she did complement him, comparing him to Dan, he got paranoid. She's now going home because she was nice to him. He lied like a dog to her yesterday afternoon, working her for a vote too. He's playing a killer game but I sure do detest him. He's too much of a deceitful undercover cop, and that gives him an advantage. I would be cool to see a house full of UC cops though, all on the same level playing field.

Yes, CourtneyIrene, that was it but I don't think Donny realized it was supposed to have been a secret between them. She did tell him not to say anything though and he did. A mistake on his part and that's what made him keep his mouth shut from there on out, imo.

I think Donny was pretty much afraid to talk to the others a great deal from nearly the get-go...about game that is. Early on, he said something innocent (to him) in passing and got put on the block for it. I don't remember exactly what it was but he was sitting on the couch with a female and that female ran straight to Nicole (I believe) and she put him up as a replacement. He was out of his element with these people and he didn't know how to interact with most. Those most just happened to be the ones in power week after week. This entire season has been The Brigade, Part II, and kudos to them for pulling it off. It worked so well the first time, I've often wondered why no one ever tried it again. That said, if BB were to turn into serial brigade seasons, it would be cancelled quickly. Far too boring and predictable. My votes will go to Donny simply because he was my favorite. He was my favorite mostly because of how humble and sweet he is, the polar opposite of guys like Caleb. He played as good of a game as he could, imo. I liked Zach too (he was entertaining) but he was there strictly for air time. I don't think he knew the first thing about gameplay. He came out of the gate telling anybody and everybody every secret he was made privy to. That wasn't smart. He was targeted for good reason.

When I watch Frankie, including his zingbot rapist portrayal, I wonder if CBS is thinking, "All publicity is good publicity." It seems as if the disgusting filth bar is pushed as far as it can go, maybe to see how much fans will take and still be fans.

6Borders -- great post...absolutely agree. The show is far too obviously scripted. After last season's distastefulness and this season's bore-fest, I'm really not feeling BB too much anymore. There's not even optimism that things will get better either.

I hope they get another TA chance only if we get the opportunity again to decide if it's a passed or failed mission again. I know what I'll vote, mission unseen.

arrowhead...(my quote button doesn't work or I'm doing something wrong) 2:20pm Saturday, cams 3/4. Frankie suggested Victoria be double-teamed and all her virginities taken. He was in a room with Christine, Cody, Derek, Caleb and Frankie. This awkward moment evolved into Frankie acting out a very vulgar and pornographic situation, pretending to be zingbot having sex with (raping?) Victoria. It was sick. I thought, even though all of them laughed (sans Caleb), they all felt very uncomfortable. Vic's family was outraged and I can understand why (they're a very orthodox family). It was quickly labeled 'the rape joke' incident.

suckitup...I don't think it was Derek who swayed Caleb. I haven't watched what happened after I went to sleep but from what I've read, Frankie got to Caleb. Der/Cody were on board with BD'ing Frankie. Hope the DR sways Caleb back to getting Frankie out before the nom ceremony today.

Marty, my husband joined the Marines at 17, went to Vietnam at 18 (served two tours) and had problems after returning home. He was into harder drugs and ended up checking himself into a psych unit for awhile. (I didn't know him then but I've been told all about it by his family. He's hardly mentioned the war to me in the almost 20 yrs I've known him.) Vietnam took almost 60k American lives and messed up way too many other lives. I was a child during that war but remember watching the body counts on the news every night. It was an 'end of the innocence' era, imo. ***Why can't I get the quote button to work this year?? edit to add: I think Caleb wants to remain loyal to Frankie because he thinks Frankie's got connections and is actually going to take him, hand-in-hand, to Justin Bieber's house. Even if Frankie had connections, after his little rape fiasco Saturday, Caleb should be distancing himself from Frankie. Does anyone know if Ariana has had anything to say about her bro in the last couple of days?

Frankie's inappropriate comment about double-teaming Victoria and taking all her virginities, then his horribly offensive pornographic depiction of the act was WAY over the top. I've never seen such a sickening and inappropriate fiasco on BB before. I understand why Vic's family was soooo upset. After watching it 3 times (trying to figure out what he kept screaming--it was "props!," like the nice zingbot), I really think that the laughter in the room ended up being because they were all so uncomfortable. They all should have got up and walked out. Caleb (surprisingly) was the one who didn't laugh and said it was inappropriate. While watching his exhibition, I just kept thinking that he just put an abrupt end to any entertainment career he was hoping for while driving a few nails into his sister's career coffin. CBS must have been cringing. I was surprised the cameraman didn't switch scenes when it was going on. I think BB might have been pushing for Caleb to put Frankie up yesterday and that seemed to be the plan, with Cody and Derek's approval, last night, Alas, I got up this morning and Frankie apparently had a long talk with Caleb, while Der/Cody were no where around, and Caleb now intends to put up Vic and vote out Nic. Come on, DR!! Put on the pressure to get rid of that piece of crap, Frankie!

Didn't Hayden tell her to go after Derek and Cody? So much for that. lol. I think today's comp might be the morphomatic one.

I don't think Nic will put Derek up if she wins hoh, if she survives this week. Frankie, yes, Derek no. She seems to be 'misted' by him, imo, to the point she thinks he hung the moon. Does she know that he's likely to win this game? Yep. Will she help him is the real question. She and Derek had a lengthy chat in the HN room when they went to bed last night and she's seems to be on the "Derek is a saint who does no wrong" bandwagon. But I do hope I'm wrong and she puts his butt up if she stays and wins.